Can't wait to watch Gooden plays for the spurs

[Rapper]

Don't you??

I can't wait to watch this dude plays for the spurs,Its definitely different from other spurs players besides big 3, you know what? during the past 7 or 8 years, there was no any "powerful trade" and "powerful signing" to the spurs, as often as I heard some trade news or signing news about the spurs in the past,I had no sursprise at all, How could I surprise for those players like Udoka,Beno,Oberto .Kurt ,Vaughn and some former spurs players in the past ?? no offense to them,I'm just saying my feeling

But I think this time must be different and I also think that he will give a big contribution to the spurs, hopefully he will recover his health ASAP

[The_Game]

as long as he plays limited minutes...spurs aren't going anywhere with this guy playing a key role.

[Spursfan092120]

as long as he plays limited minutes...spurs aren't going anywhere with this guy playing a key role.
:wtf
I'm confused. If he can come in and give us just his average 13.1 and 8.7, isn't that a key role? Isn't that what David did for us in 2003 for his last ring? I'd LOVE Drew to come in here and play a key role, and make us a Big 4. Not saying that's going to happen, but if it did, we'd damn sure be a better team, in my opinion. A guy who can bang on the blocks could be a MAJOR part of our lineup.

[TheSpursFNRule]

as long as he plays limited minutes...spurs aren't going anywhere with this guy playing a key role.

This isn't a good post.

[The_Game]

:wtf
I'm confused. If he can come in and give us just his average 13.1 and 8.7, isn't that a key role? Isn't that what David did for us in 2003 for his last ring? I'd LOVE Drew to come in here and play a key role, and make us a Big 4. Not saying that's going to happen, but if it did, we'd damn sure be a better team, in my opinion. A guy who can bang on the blocks could be a MAJOR part of our lineup.

problem is he is a terrible defender who makes dumb decisons on the court...yes he may make spurs better with rebounding and another scoring option but i simply can't trust him in key playoff games when games are on the line. he messed up too much.

[Ghazi]

I can't wait for the Mavs to kick some Spurs ass tonight.

[phyzik]

I'm holding my reservations until he shows me that he can adapt to the Spurs system. I would say Im "Iinterested" in how he plays..... but excited (within the context of your post)? no, not really.

I'll pass judgement after a few games that he actually plays in.

[TheSpursFNRule]

I can't wait for the Mavs to kick some Spurs ass tonight.

Remember when Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili were out and the Mavs still couldn't win.

[m33p0]

i'd be happy if the spurs are the big 3 and 1/3 with gooden.

[phyzik]

I can't wait for the Mavs to kick some Spurs ass tonight.

your such a homo. there is nothing else to be said so I wont waste my time.

Your just a big homo.

[m33p0]

I can't wait for the Mavs to kick some Spurs ass tonight.
can't wait for the mavs to try and fail.

[smrattler]

:wtf
I'm confused. If he can come in and give us just his average 13.1 and 8.7, isn't that a key role? Isn't that what David did for us in 2003 for his last ring? I'd LOVE Drew to come in here and play a key role, and make us a Big 4. Not saying that's going to happen, but if it did, we'd damn sure be a better team, in my opinion. A guy who can bang on the blocks could be a MAJOR part of our lineup.



How's he gonna give us 13.1 and 8.7? He'd have to play 30 mins+, where do we get the mins from? Sit who? Bonner? Thomas?

Bonner gives us something we need with the way we are playing this year. Thomas is our strongest big-man defender besides TD.

I realize you said you don't think that's going to happen, still, just pointing this out. He won't play a 13/7 role, but he can STILL play an important role with an occasional 10/5 game when he is the hot hand Pop rides.

[ChumpDumper]

I can't wait to start my own Gooden thread!

[Rapper]

I can't wait for the Mavs to kick some Spurs ass tonight.

:nope

drunk too much?

[peskypesky]

The Gooden signing is the best Spur signing in years. We get a starting quality PF who's gotten to the Finals, who puts up much better numbers than Oberto, Thomas, Bonner, Eslon, Nazr, or Rasho, and we're getting him for a song. I mean cheap. Great fricking signing.

[m33p0]

The Gooden signing is the best Spur signing in years. We get a starting quality PF who's gotten to the Finals, who puts up much better numbers than Oberto, Thomas, Bonner, Eslon, Nazr, or Rasho, and we're getting him for a song. I mean cheap. Great fricking signing.
now i'm depressed. :depressed

[peskypesky]

How's he gonna give us 13.1 and 8.7? He'd have to play 30 mins+, where do we get the mins from? Sit who? Bonner? Thomas?

Are you dense? Do you not realize the difference between a starter (Gooden) and a sub (Bonner)? And sure, KT was a starter, and he's still strong, but he's OLD. He's slow.

Of course Gooden should get their minutes. Duh.

[remingtonbo2001]

Are you dense? Do you not realize the difference between a starter (Gooden) and a sub (Bonner)? And sure, KT was a starter, and he's still strong, but he's OLD. He's slow.

Of course Gooden should get their minutes. Duh.

Pop's system doesn't work like that.

At least it would be incredibly unusual to see.

[smrattler]

Are you dense? Do you not realize the difference between a starter (Gooden) and a sub (Bonner)? And sure, KT was a starter, and he's still strong, but he's OLD. He's slow.

Of course Gooden should get their minutes. Duh.

Having never played for Pop before March 2009? He should walk in and take their mins? Really?

Are you dense to think a guy that has a rep of not playing defense should actually make Pop abandon his no-defensive-stupidity rule? For 13 points?

How many times have we seen Pop pull guys for making ONE defensive mistake? To make a point that he won't tolerate it? You think Gooden can come in and flash his 13ppg avg and make Pop forget that?

[timtonymanu]

I can't wait for the Mavs to kick some Spurs ass tonight.

says the person who's team lost to a Duncan/Manu-less Spurs and a Durant/Green-less Thunder.

[peskypesky]

Having never played for Pop before March 2009? He should walk in and take their mins? Really?

Are you dense to think a guy that has a rep of not playing defense should actually make Pop abandon his no-defensive-stupidity rule? For 13 points?

How many times have we seen Pop pull guys for making ONE defensive mistake? To make a point that he won't tolerate it? You think Gooden can come in and flash his 13ppg avg and make Pop forget that?

Hater :nope

[smrattler]

Hater :nope


Nope, not hating. Just being realistic for what I hope this guy can do for us.

He can be an important part of our team without taking 30+ mins a night. He can even have an occasional 30+ mins night every now and then if he's on a roll. But he has to prove he can stay on the floor for Pop.

Plus, if he proves me way wrong and cements himself as a starter for the next three years, I would LOVE to say I was wrong.

Team first, my pride second. :)

[raspsa]

Before people start passing judgement on Gooden, cutthe guy some slack and let him play a few games to get a feel for Spurs BB. This is a low-risk move by the Spurs that could pay off. We'll see.

[timvp]

I can't wait to start my own Gooden thread!:lmao

I would merge this thread into another Gooden thread but this thread is filled with too much suck.

[Spursfan092120]

problem is he is a terrible defender who makes dumb decisons on the court...yes he may make spurs better with rebounding and another scoring option but i simply can't trust him in key playoff games when games are on the line. he messed up too much.
I bolded and underlined that because it's in the past tense. Who knows what he'll be like in this lineup. I've seen several Cavs fans come in here and say we made a great signing. I tend to agree. If he gets 13 and 8 and bangs on the blocks like he always has, he could help us a lot.

[gmanrulz]

Remember when Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili were out and the Mavs still couldn't win.

remember when durant and green were out and they still got blown out by the thunder :lol

[Austin_Toros]

The Gooden signing is the best Spur signing in years. We get a starting quality PF who's gotten to the Finals, who puts up much better numbers than Oberto, Thomas, Bonner, Eslon, Nazr, or Rasho, and we're getting him for a song. I mean cheap. Great fricking signing.

Yes, but he isn't a centre.
Then again, when you consider how little the spurs are paying him....

[Spursfan092120]

remember when durant and green were out and they still got blown out by the thunder :lol
Remember when the Mavs won the....oh..wait...nm.

4 RINGS BUTT-PIRATE!!
:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[TwelveGs210]

can't wait for the mavs to try and fail.

lol didnt the mavs just lose to the thunder without durant??

[gmanrulz]

lol didnt the mavs just lose to the thunder without durant??

and green

[Duncan2177]

as long as he plays limited minutes...spurs aren't going anywhere with this guy playing a key role.

Whatever

[jdev82]

rapper, i told you to stop posting stupid things. if you have a good opinion, say it.
if you have a stupid meandering, keep it to yourself

[Slippy]

problem is he is a terrible defender who makes dumb decisons on the court...yes he may make spurs better with rebounding and another scoring option but i simply can't trust him in key playoff games when games are on the line. he messed up too much.

yah he's another scoring option but his shot selection on offense stinks. If Gooden changes his game.. as in taking what the offense gives and puts in a solid effort on defense then this move should pay dividends.. the biggest being easing the pressure on Tim.

[Obstructed_View]

And how is that any diff from what Bonner does?

Actually, he's exactly like Bonner: A good but not great defender who assorted idiots on Spurstalk continually talk down because they heard someone else do it or have some personal axe to grind that has little to do with reality.

Didn't everyone here do that with Scola? Seems like he turned out to be pretty good.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I bolded and underlined that because it's in the past tense. Who knows what he'll be like in this lineup. I've seen several Cavs fans come in here and say we made a great signing. I tend to agree. If he gets 13 and 8 and bangs on the blocks like he always has, he could help us a lot.

Dude get real, Gooden won't be anywhere near 13 and 8, he's not gonna get the minutes and touches to do it.That said, he could be very useful and contribute in our playoff run, hopefully as much as Nazr could. But building totally unreasonable expectations for the guy is only going to cause meltdowns and dissing threads, which would not be deserved.

If he's able to hang on the court for 20-25 mins, plays adequate defense and gets something like 8 and 4, that'd be very helpful to the Spurs.

[Obstructed_View]

Gooden is probably better than Nazr in every statistical area, and even though he's not a legitimate NBA center, he's certainly more a legitimate NBA starter.

[TDMVPDPOY]

fuck imagine had we traded for vince carter and also pickin up gooden

we would be deep biatches

[TDMVPDPOY]

fuck imagine had we traded for vince carter and also pickin up gooden

we would be deep biatches

[Danny.Zhu]

Yeah. Gooden is no doubt the best additional big man since David Robinson retired. Tim will definitely face less double team and the Spurs offense can be way better.

[waly.mg]

Great Pick:

Now, we can start with:

Starters:

Parker
Mason
Finley
Duncan
Gooden

And too better, we can play the clutchs with:

Parker: 81.1% FT
Mason: 88.4%
Manu: 88%
Gooden: 87%
TD: 70%

And too with:
Finley: 83%
K-Thomas: 84%

We can rebound with:
Duncan: 10.6
Gooden: 8.7 (The last game was 13)

[MaNu4Tres]

problem is he is a terrible defender who makes dumb decisons on the court...yes he may make spurs better with rebounding and another scoring option but i simply can't trust him in key playoff games when games are on the line. he messed up too much.

And what evidence do you have that backs up this post? Gooden was the 2nd best player on the Cavs during the 07' finals. How does that happen to someone who " messed up too much in key playoff games".

[WalterBenitez]

I can't wait for the Mavs to kick some Spurs ass tonight.

:wow

[MannyIsGod]

:wtf
I'm confused. If he can come in and give us just his average 13.1 and 8.7, isn't that a key role? Isn't that what David did for us in 2003 for his last ring? I'd LOVE Drew to come in here and play a key role, and make us a Big 4. Not saying that's going to happen, but if it did, we'd damn sure be a better team, in my opinion. A guy who can bang on the blocks could be a MAJOR part of our lineup.

As Charles Barkley would say, David Robinson just rolled over in his grave.

[I Love Me Some Me]

The Gooden signing is the best Spur signing in years. We get a starting quality PF who's gotten to the Finals, who puts up much better numbers than Oberto, Thomas, Bonner, Eslon, Nazr, or Rasho, and we're getting him for a song. I mean cheap. Great fricking signing.

Better than Roger Mason? Robert Horry? Brent Barry? Bruce Bowen?

[Agloco]

fuck imagine had we traded for vince carter and also pickin up gooden

we would be deep biatches

Five deep........

Whatever.

[Agloco]

:wtf
I'm confused. If he can come in and give us just his average 13.1 and 8.7, isn't that a key role? Isn't that what David did for us in 2003 for his last ring? I'd LOVE Drew to come in here and play a key role, and make us a Big 4. Not saying that's going to happen, but if it did, we'd damn sure be a better team, in my opinion. A guy who can bang on the blocks could be a MAJOR part of our lineup.


As Charles Barkley would say, David Robinson just rolled over in his grave.

No shit.....

This isn't PMB level nut-hugging, but it's close. You gotta go much deeper than a points/reb comparison to get the correct picture here.

[hater]

Gooden next to Duncan > Gasol

[Rogue]

Remember when Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili were out and the Mavs still couldn't win.

that's precisely the reason why we sucked and lost that game, and it's also the same reason why we lost to thunders the night before last night...

our guys in blue just don't want to beat the weak teams like thunders and the short-handed spurs without Manu and Duncan.

[m33p0]

that's precisely the reason why we sucked and lost that game, and it's also the same reason why we lost to thunders the night before last night...

our guys in blue just don't want to beat the weak teams like thunders and the short-handed spurs without Manu and Duncan.
2OT spurs were complete. mavs lost.
spurs spotted mavs 2 of its big 3. mavs lost.
thunder(!) without durant and green. mavs lost.
mavs suck plain and simple.

[Marcus Bryant]

There's a chance his game fits in rather well in SA. He's not much of a shotblocker, but otherwise the profile sounds good...a mobile rebounding big who has the ability to average a double figure scoring average from garbage baskets and the occassional jumper without many plays being run for him.

I understand the concerns (other than from the resident crystal meth addict) about his defense. The short answer is we'll see. I know that other players who haven't had the greatest defensive rep came to SA and figured out how to play defense in Pop's system. His rebounding will make up for him not being a defensive savant...somewhat.

All in all, the Spurs just picked up a mobile 27 year old big who's averaged close to a double double in his NBA career for nothing.

[Bartleby]

I see him as the poor man's version of David Lee. Just hope he's healthy enough to play hard in the playoffs.

[Spursmania]

There's a chance his game fits in rather well in SA. He's not much of a shotblocker, but otherwise the profile sounds good...a mobile rebounding big who has the ability to average a double figure scoring average from garbage baskets and the occassional jumper without many plays being run for him.

I understand the concerns (other than from the resident crystal meth addict) about his defense. The short answer is we'll see. I know that other players who haven't had the greatest defensive rep came to SA and figured out how to play defense in Pop's system. His rebounding will make up for him not being a defensive savant...somewhat.

All in all, the Spurs just picked up a mobile 27 year old big who's averaged close to a double double in his NBA career for nothing.

Exactly...:hat

[hater]

If healthy enough, I see him being a monster on offense with Duncan next to him. Dude is great at the putbacks. That is something Spurs never had since DRob

[dbestpro]

problem is he is a terrible defender who makes dumb decisons on the court...yes he may make spurs better with rebounding and another scoring option but i simply can't trust him in key playoff games when games are on the line. he messed up too much.

Its funny to watch the cattle call. a couple of guys post that he has a low BBIQ or can't play defense and everyone stampedes right off the cliff with the same info ....... as if they have some special knowledge.

Truth be known he is a decent defender but with the Spurs it is not about your man to man defense but your team defense. Even if he was as bad as some make believe the team defense scheme would mask any short comings due to his athleticism. From that point you add the good being rebouding and low post scoring which will help the three point shooters when Tim is not in the game.

[MaNu4Tres]

Its funny to watch the cattle call. a couple of guys post that he has a low BBIQ or can't play defense and everyone stampedes right off the cliff with the same info ....... as if they have some special knowledge.



Best post of this thread

[TheDarkSide.]

when will we see him anyway? Friday vs. Washington?

[peskypesky]

Its funny to watch the cattle call. a couple of guys post that he has a low BBIQ or can't play defense and everyone stampedes right off the cliff with the same info ....... as if they have some special knowledge.

Truth be known he is a decent defender but with the Spurs it is not about your man to man defense but your team defense. Even if he was as bad as some make believe the team defense scheme would mask any short comings due to his athleticism. From that point you add the good being rebouding and low post scoring which will help the three point shooters when Tim is not in the game.

well, I decided to do a bit of research on Gooden's supposed defensive deficiencies. i found a bunch of posts on Cavs fan message boards where people discussed this weakness, and it mostly concerned his problems with defensive rotations. it wasn't that he lacked effort, but just that he maybe seemed a little dense.

hopefully he will learn the spurs' defensive schemes quickly and be able to execute well enough to avoid pop's wrath. we need him on the floor. we need those boards and we need another post scorer.

[Cry Havoc]

Gooden next to Duncan > Gasol

:lmao

ME next to Duncan > Gasol.

In fact, Lucky the Leprechaun next to Duncan > Gasol.

Basically, Duncan >>> Gasol.

And I'll even say that Gooden + Bonner > Bynum.

The West playoffs are starting to look very exciting.

Get healthy, Manu.

[Spursmania]

Speaking of when Gooden suits up- Let's review 2 things we think are true:

1. Many if us were doubtful Gooden was seriosuly injured or else why would Spurs sign him. It would be extremely risky, which is unlike the Spurs, to just put him in the playoffs without playing with the guys first.
2. We also know there are reports he's injured, even some indicating he has a sports hernia that will require surgery.

Okay, I was depressed thinking if he requires surgery, that would mean he would be out at least 6 weeks. So, how great is signing him up if he won't even have a chance to gel with the guys and the rotations.

HOWEVER, if he undergoes LAPROSCOPIC surgery for the Sports Hernia, recovery time is one week. It's is a very minimally invasive surgery. Whoop, there it is! If he requires surgery, my bet is it's Laproscopic and he'll be suiting up in 2-3 weeks.
I'm in a much better mood now. Will be in a better mood if he doesn't require surgery and we see him suited up earlier. We'll know more tonight.
:hat
Go Spurs!