Big trades that almost went down

[Flo-Rida]

What were some big trades in NBA History that almost went down but didn't happen?

Here were a few:


In 2005 their was a rumor of the Pistons trading Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace and a pick for Kevin Garnett.

The Bulls were going to trade Scottie Pippen for Tracy McGrady back in 1997 but MJ threatened to retire if they did it.

In 1999 the Bulls were going to trade Pippen for Eddie Jones and Elden Campbell.

1984: Ralph Sampson for Clyde Drexler and the second overall pick. (2nd overall pick would have been Jordan as the Rockets would have taken Jordan considering they selected Hakeem 1st)


The Magic offered Tracy McGrady to Phoenix for Shawn Marion and Joe Johnson

Suns offered Marion and Kidd in 2000 for Kobe Bryant

Bulls offered Chandler, Deng and #2 for Garnett


Lakers in 2007 were going to trade Andrew Bynum or Jason Kidd

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Hakeem, Clyde, Jordan and all the other good players on that team?


D-A-M.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The Magic offered Tracy McGrady to Phoenix for Shawn Marion and Joe Johnson

And the 2nd part of that story is allegedly Kobe was going to sign with the Suns to create the Kobe-Tmac-Amare big three. I'm not sure how true that was, IMO Kobe always knew he was going back to the Lakers.

[Flo-Rida]

Hakeem, Clyde, Jordan and all the other good players on that team?


D-A-M.

They would have probably won every championship through the 90's imagine 10 championships in ten years wow..

[IronMexican]

Rocket fans just died a little inside.

[Baseline]

In 2008, the Lakers wanted Pau Gasol from the Grizz. Trouble was, tThe Grizz wanted actual basketball players in exchange for Pau Gasol.

Mr. Stern intervened, and the Grizz ended up saying, "Okay, we'll just take Kwame Brown and change for our franchise player."

[Darthkiller]

What were some big trades in NBA History that almost went down but didn't happen?

Here were a few:


In 2005 their was a rumor of the Pistons trading Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace and a pick for Kevin Garnett.

The Bulls were going to trade Scottie Pippen for Tracy McGrady back in 1997 but MJ threatened to retire if they did it.

In 1999 the Bulls were going to trade Pippen for Eddie Jones and Elden Campbell.

1984: Ralph Sampson for Clyde Drexler and the second overall pick. (2nd overall pick would have been Jordan as the Rockets would have taken Jordan considering they selected Hakeem 1st)


The Magic offered Tracy McGrady to Phoenix for Shawn Marion and Joe Johnson

Suns offered Marion and Kidd in 2000 for Kobe Bryant

Bulls offered Chandler, Deng and #2 for Garnett


Lakers in 2007 were going to trade Andrew Bynum or Jason Kidd


If that deal goes down, the rockets GM would have been the goat.


the laker suns deal would have been interesting if it had happened.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Phil Jackson said in his book Jerry Buss was the one reason the Bryant trade didn't happen, he and Jerry West were both in favor of it. It would have indeed been interesting.

Nothing against Kobe, but it would have made LA a better team. Idk about what it does for the Suns.

[024]

if the bryant trade had gone down, i can still see the lakers winning those championships. i wonder how the suns would have turned out though..

[Thunder Dan]

This forum in 2018.....

Remember when the Cavs almost traded J.J. Hickson for Amare!? What were they thinking?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

if the bryant trade had gone down, i can still see the lakers winning those championships.

For sure, they'd still have what was the league's most dominant player at the time. 2000-2002 Kobe was a lot dumber and worse than 2007-2009 Kobe, and Kidd was arguably the best PG in the NBA at the time who made everyone on his team better. I still hold a grudge against Colangelo for trading him for Starbury.

Plus, the Laker's achilles heel at the time, defending the pick and roll, all the sudden is a strength with Marion and Kidd. Marion and Shaq would play extremely well together.

[Texas_Ranger]

Parker for Kidd in 03

[DrHouse]

For sure, they'd still have what was the league's most dominant player at the time. 2000-2002 Kobe was a lot dumber and worse than 2007-2009 Kobe, and Kidd was arguably the best PG in the NBA at the time who made everyone on his team better. I still hold a grudge against Colangelo for trading him for Starbury.

Plus, the Laker's achilles heel at the time, defending the pick and roll, all the sudden is a strength with Marion and Kidd. Marion and Shaq would play extremely well together.

Quite possibly the dumbest sports take I've ever read.

The Lakers would not have won 3 in a row with Jason Kidd, WHO CANNOT SHOOT THE BASKETBALL WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE TRIANGLE OFFENSE, and Shawn Marion, WHO IS A STUPID PLAYER THAT WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO GRASP THE INTRICACIES OF THE TRIANGLE.

[Chieflion]

The 1984 trade. You combine Drexler, Jordan and Hakeem. I do not even want to know why the Blazers even thought about it, it just did not make sense on hindsight. Ralph Sampson was ruined by injuries.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Quite possibly the dumbest sports take I've ever read.

The Lakers would not have won 3 in a row with Jason Kidd, WHO CANNOT SHOOT THE BASKETBALL WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE TRIANGLE OFFENSE, and Shawn Marion, WHO IS A STUPID PLAYER THAT WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO GRASP THE INTRICACIES OF THE TRIANGLE.

Phil Jackson didn't seem to think so, and I think it's safe to say he knows more about the triangle offense than you do.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

And btw DrHouse, I'm trying to diss Kobe or anything, they would undoubtedly be a better offensive team with Kobe instead of Marion and Kidd, but their defense would more than make up for that.

[Chieflion]

And btw DrHouse, I'm trying to diss Kobe or anything, they would undoubtedly be a better offensive team with Kobe instead of Marion and Kidd, but their defense would more than make up for that.
This is where Kobe's All-NBA 1st team defense level of D gets underated.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

This is where Kobe's All-NBA 1st team defense level of D gets underated.

I agree, cause back then he really was a first team defender, but Marion's defense is extremely underrated.

[Tradition]

The Lakers may have been solid on D with Kidd/Marion but on O they would struggle bigtime in a 7 game series. Kidd/Marion are not half court players nor can really create their own shots. As great as Shaq is, it wouldnt be enough offensively. The Lakers would have been a much easier team to defend. No way we 3 peat let alone win 1 championship with that roster.

[BlackSwordsMan]

2009 tim duncan for greg oden

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I think you're also forgetting how good Kidd was back then, he was all NBA first team in 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004.

[Tradition]

I think you're also forgetting how good Kidd was back then, he was all NBA first team in 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004.

Kidd/Marion were never great scorers/half court players offensively.Who would be the #2 guy? With that roster you would just need to force the Lakers to play a halfcourt game and you have them beat. You need both O and D to win in this league.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Kidd/Marion were never great scorers/half court players offensively.Who would be the #2 guy? With that roster you would just need to force the Lakers to play a halfcourt game and you have them beat. You need both O and D to win in this league.

Marion I agree with, he has always been a horrible half court scorer.

Maybe it would hurt them, but the rest of the league was so weak from 2000-2002 that I don't see it stopping them from 3-peating. Shaq was that dominant back then.

[Duncanoypi]

Camby to spurs for GH3 and RMJ.

Maggette to spurs for Beno Udrih and Brent Barry.

Damn CLIPPERS!

[Chieflion]

Camby to spurs for GH3 and RMJ.

Maggette to spurs for Beno Udrih and Brent Barry.

Damn CLIPPERS!

I agree on the 2nd one. The 1st one, not so much.

[024]

kidd solidified his hall of fame credentials in 2000-2004, that was his prime. he was pretty amazing back then. lakers obviously believed kidd fit in the triangle offense because they wouldn't have pushed for a trade twice, once in 2000 and again in 2007 if they did not believe in kidd.

[redd96]

Rocket fans just died a little inside.
Naw, not really. Most real rocket fans have known about this for a while now. But yeah, it coulda/woulda been the greatest team of all time.:(

[redd96]

The 1984 trade. You combine Drexler, Jordan and Hakeem. I do not even want to know why the Blazers even thought about it, it just did not make sense on hindsight. Ralph Sampson was ruined by injuries.
But at that time he was a bonafide bigman in the era of bigmen. Him and Hakeem beat the showtime lakers and lost to 1 of the greatest Boston/NBA teams of all time. His injuries came later.

[robbie380]

The 1984 trade. You combine Drexler, Jordan and Hakeem. I do not even want to know why the Blazers even thought about it, it just did not make sense on hindsight. Ralph Sampson was ruined by injuries.

...hindsight is 20/20. don't forget sampson was the only 3 time ncaa POY and had a very nice rookie campaign. so basically for them it would have been trading a great guard for a dominant big man. also drexler hadn't fully showcased his nba skills yet.

let's not forget that rockets team lead by sampson and dream was potentially a dynasty in itself if it wasn't wrecked by injuries and drugs. remember they smoked the lakers in dream's 2nd year to get to the finals?

[baseline bum]

...hindsight is 20/20. don't forget sampson was the only 3 time ncaa POY and had a very nice rookie campaign. so basically for them it would have been trading a great guard for a dominant big man. also drexler hadn't fully showcased his nba skills yet.

let's not forget that rockets team lead by sampson and dream was potentially a dynasty in itself if it wasn't wrecked by injuries and drugs. remember they smoked the lakers in dream's 2nd year to get to the finals?

Just like the '81 Rockets, right? Sometimes good teams just take a shit all over themselves in a playoff series. No way that team beats the Lakers in '87 or '88.

[kingmalaki]

Just like the '81 Rockets, right? Sometimes good teams just take a shit all over themselves in a playoff series. No way that team beats the Lakers in '87 or '88.

Why not, if they don't lose Samspon to injury (only started 32 games in 87) or their starting PG (Lucas) to drugs. The Rockets beat the Lakers 4-1 in 86 and only one of those wins was close.

If anyone should know how deadly a twin towers combo can be, it should be a Spurs fan. :-)

But in hindsight, I don't regret not making that trade. I do get sad thinking of what could have been if Sampson never got hurt and he and Hakeem playing basically their entire careers together....

[Pelicans78]

You guys left out Sean Marks for Dwayne Wade which the Hornets turned down right before the deadline.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Jacque Vaughn for Lebron James

Fell apart at the 11th hour

[GuerillaBlack]

The 1984 trade. You combine Drexler, Jordan and Hakeem. I do not even want to know why the Blazers even thought about it, it just did not make sense on hindsight. Ralph Sampson was ruined by injuries.

I'm crying on the inside right now. We would have had 10 championships at least.

[slowchild25]

I'm crying on the inside right now. We would have had 10 championships at least.

Don't. Because that was not the offer. I remember reading in this book (http://www.amazon.com/Tip-Off-Draft-Changed-Basketball-Forever/dp/0306814862) that the offer was Ralph Sampson for the #3 pick overall straight up. No Portland. No Drexler involved. Still Hakeem and Jordan not a bad combo. :lobt2: