showing a little love to Matt Bonner.. [Archive]

HarlemHeat37

03-27-2009, 08:00 PM

AussieFanKurt

03-27-2009, 08:11 PM

ease up on the big fella
jeez

Spursfan092120

03-27-2009, 08:56 PM

Bon Dog is finding shots when his 3 is off. I don't think he should start...no...but I am going to give him props for focusing more on the rebounds lately, finding shots, and working harder on defense.

Borosai

03-27-2009, 09:40 PM

Matt Bonner!

Thomas82

03-27-2009, 09:43 PM

Manufan909

03-27-2009, 10:05 PM

I still don't support having him in the starting lineup, but I have to show him some love..

his 3-pointer has been off for a while now..actually, probably ever since we signed Gooden..but he didn't put his head down and let his play sink, he's working on the rest of his game to make up for it..

he's playing tougher and a little more physical..he's making his 2-point shots and driving to the basket a lot more..his hook shot off the run has been looking good..

the old Bonner would have undoubtedly put his head down and allow Pop to have him riding on the end of the bench..good to see some improvement mentally..

The % on his shots inside the 3pt line is insane. And he was 50% from 3 tonight, so go Bonner!!!

I'm in favor of him continuing to start as long as his 3% from the last 2 games is always above 40%. Unless he gets torched by the opposing C.

jag

03-27-2009, 10:40 PM

This guy sucks, should be the 9th man, the fact he starts shows how far the spurs have fallen, and how little they have done to improve our D. I so sick of guys praising this guys every time he hits a couple 3s.........hes a starting Center that cant defend at all, either his man or as a help defender, and game after game he gets 2-4 rebounds.

HE SUCKS!

:rolleyes

Spursmania

03-27-2009, 11:01 PM

Manufan909

03-27-2009, 11:10 PM

You should see what he says when Tim has an off game. T2T is a disgrace to Spurs fans everywhere.

onarollbaby

03-27-2009, 11:21 PM

like what Tim said during an interview, Mat spreads the opposing team's defense being an outside threat. That's his primary purpose in the lineup and that is to make things easier for Tim and the other guys to operate inside. In the defensive end though, he definitely still needs improvement. But I commend him for trying to improve his game.

ploto

03-27-2009, 11:27 PM

He played decent against the Clippers. Yippee!

And Jacque Vaughn had more rebounds than him.

AussieFanKurt

03-28-2009, 08:53 AM

who cares

vander

04-02-2009, 11:57 AM

I'm a big fan of the on-court/off-court stat. I know that it is a meaningless stat for one game, or even over the course of 20 games, but over the course of a whole season, when players have logged many minutes in every situation and with every 5-man unit, it becomes one of the most telling stats about a players value to the team.

so after 70 or so games this year:

Name . . . total. . . Per 48 min
Bonner . . +301 . . . +8.3
Parker . . +264 . . . +5.8
Duncan . . +199 . . . +4.1
Mason. . . +196 . . . +4.2
Finley . . +142 . . . +3.3
Udoka. . . +134 . . . +7.5
Thomas . . +107 . . . +4.1
Ginobili . +102 . . . +4.4

hmm

1Parker1

04-02-2009, 12:19 PM

If Matt Bonner is still the Spurs starting "Center" come playoff time, they may as well just fold. You aren't going to win with him as a starter. :pctoss

vander

04-02-2009, 12:22 PM

If Matt Bonner is still the Spurs starting "Center" come playoff time, they may as well just fold. You aren't going to win with him as a starter. :pctoss

so the fact that the team outscores opponents at an 8+ PPG rate when he is on the court doesn't factor into your opinion?

1Parker1

04-02-2009, 12:30 PM

^Yes, especially given the fact that he's on the court most of the time with Duncan and Parker, that stat is misleading.

vander

04-02-2009, 12:33 PM

^Yes, especially given the fact that he's on the court most of the time with Duncan and Parker, that stat is misleading.

hmm you don't seem to understand, his +/- is better than TD and Parker. So, since the minutes they play together will result in equal +/-, it's the minutes that he ISN'T playing with them where he is pulling ahead.
his +/- is actually better when paired with KT than Duncan

z0sa

04-02-2009, 12:33 PM

^Yes, especially given the fact that he's on the court most of the time with Duncan and Parker, that stat is misleading.

Our average point differential is <4PPG... so we're doubling our average victory margin when he's on the court.

George Gervin's Afro

04-02-2009, 12:50 PM

his defense sucks!

vander

04-02-2009, 01:42 PM

his defense sucks!

once again the stats say otherwise, and very often, Bonner is guarding the better player while TD gets the easier assignment

DesignatedT

04-02-2009, 01:49 PM

gooden needs in over bonner. i dont mind bonner getting 10-15 minutes a night but thats it IMO

EricB

04-02-2009, 02:08 PM

gooden needs in over bonner. i dont mind bonner getting 10-15 minutes a night but thats it IMO

Yeah lets play the more ball hoggish Francisco Elson more.

Great idea.

vander

04-02-2009, 04:04 PM

numbers sais he only gets 5 rpg and that's not good enough to be our starting center,plus He can't block and Has no low post game.
Pathetic.

those things are nice, but the main point of a basketball game is to outscore the opponent.
rebounds + low post game doesn't necessary = outscoring your opponent.
what can't be denied is that the Spurs play their best basketball as a team when he is in there

when Bonner is on the floor, the Spurs give up 91 points per 48 minutes, none of the Big 3 are better than that, Manu is worst with almost 96, KT and the also-much-hated Udoka are like 88 or something.

Spursmania

04-02-2009, 04:21 PM

I just want him out of a Spurs uniform. We need somebody mentally tough. Sorry Bonner fans, it's just my opinion.

vander

04-02-2009, 04:30 PM

I just want him out of a Spurs uniform. We need somebody mentally tough. Sorry Bonner fans, it's just my opinion.

that's all right, ignoring facts and going on how you feel is the American condition. It's how Obama got elected and it's why we we will soon be a quasi-socialist nation :toast

Spursmania

04-02-2009, 04:38 PM

that's all right, ignoring facts and going on how you feel is the American condition. It's how Obama got elected and it's why we we will soon be a quasi-socialist nation :toast

Sorry, you're comparing oranges to apples my friend. Politics and Sports don't mix unless you're a simpleton. Of which I am assuming you're not.:toast

z0sa

04-02-2009, 04:44 PM

I just want him out of a Spurs uniform. We need somebody mentally tough. Sorry Bonner fans, it's just my opinion.

lol, fans like you make me sick. Bonner has done all that he's asked for this season. It just isn't enough and nothing will ever be enough for bandwagoners like yourself, not a player doing his best, not 4 championships, nothing.

sorry bandwagoner, just my opinion.

Spursmania

04-02-2009, 04:59 PM

lol, fans like you make me sick. Bonner has done all that he's asked for this season. It just isn't enough and nothing will ever be enough for bandwagoners like yourself, not a player doing his best, not 4 championships, nothing.

sorry bandwagoner, just my opinion.

What the fuck are you talking about?? You're busting my balls and calling me a bandwagon fan because I think Bonner is mentally weak? You are the pathetic one. Since when does posting an opinion on a player's mental toughness equate with being a bandwagon fan? I thought only Laker assholes threw insults at people for no apparent reason, but I was wrong.

I happen to think we can do better than Bonner and if you don't like my opinion tough fucking shit. You are seriously delusional to judge me as a bandwagon fan because I think Bonner is mentally weak. He is mentally weak. He never guts it out when it counts and I hope we don't have to depend on him for clutch shots. You can continue kissing his ass but I call it like I see it. And, until he shows otherwise, I stand by my opinion.
:nope

vander

04-02-2009, 05:07 PM

Sorry, you're comparing oranges to apples my friend. Politics and Sports don't mix unless you're a simpleton. Of which I am assuming you're not.:toast

I was not comparing sports to politics, but rather predictable human psychology to predictable human psychology.
Whatever a person is engaged in: sports, politics, talking with friends, whatever; his thought process, reasoning (or lack thereof), decision-making factors, level of ignorance, etc. are going to be mostly the same.

so back on topic, you derive your opinion of Bonner with seemingly complete disregard for the facts, how am I supposed to argue against that?

edit: oh and may I ask, did you vote for Obama?

Spursmania

04-02-2009, 05:37 PM

I was not comparing sports to politics, but rather predictable human psychology to predictable human psychology.
Whatever a person is engaged in: sports, politics, talking with friends, whatever; his thought process, reasoning (or lack thereof), decision-making factors, level of ignorance, etc. are going to be mostly the same.

so back on topic, you derive your opinion of Bonner with seemingly complete disregard for the facts, how am I supposed to argue against that?

edit: oh and may I ask, did you vote for Obama?

Put it to you this way. I am in the small percentage of Americans who will be taxed to death. Now who do you think I voted for? LOL...

vander

04-02-2009, 09:43 PM

It's not just about outscore opponets,it is about holding your opponent to score less points tham you by playing Defense and getting rebounds.
Most teams that just tried to outscore others(like D'antony's or Nelly's teams)usually come up short in the playoffs.
but "holding your opponent to score less points tham you by playing Defense and getting rebounds." is part of "outscoring" and therefore part of what Bonner is bringing to the team

it is necessary when you are 6.10 and play Center.
This is in the NBA rulebook? what about that Kukoc guy? didn't he play some "Center" for the bulls

......When his 3s are falling,otherwise we suck. And his 3s haven't been falling lately.

actually his +/- has been holding up even in his shooting slump, but yeah, his role is to hit shots and play D, if he can't hit shots he is of no use, but he isn't all of a sudden going to forget how to shoot

That tells you 3 things:
1-Bonner plays always with the best spurs.
2-Manu plays always with the shitties spurs
2-Udoka doesn't play much at all.

1-I already explained this to another poster, how are his numbers surpassing them if he's only riding their coattails? when he's on with the starters, his numbers will be the same as theirs. it is when they are on without him that their numbers go down, and when he is on without them that his are going up.
2-Manu also plays against the opponent's "shitties" players, his numbers should be through the roof
3-yeah but more then you might think

But that stat alone wont tell you if the player is good enough or not.
In Bonner's case the stats you need to look at are:
His points
His rebounds
His Blocks
and also you should look at the opponent's offensive rebounds and points in the paint.
If you need more examples let me know.
you are stuck on simple stats, thinking that only points, blocks, and rebounds help a team. this is not fantasy basketball
we have plenty of scorers, as long as Bonner is shooting when he is supposed to, we don't need any more points out of him. if his rebounding was actually poor, we would be seeing opponents stealing rebounds from him, this hasn't been an issue.

need I remind you that he is a ROLE PLAYER making 1/3rd of what manu makes, 1/6th of TD, and yet no one has had a more positive effect on the team's performance this year.
but no, you people still bitch about him as if he's the only think holding us back. what has Manu done for his 10 mil? his stats are terrible in almost every category relative to what is expected of him, and yet he's our glorified star and savior :rollin

Borosai

04-02-2009, 10:31 PM

If you're gonna bash The Bonner, just make sure not to post any personal information anywhere on the Internets, because he will find you and run you over with his Grand Prix.

Spursmania

04-02-2009, 11:06 PM

If you're gonna bash The Bonner, just make sure not to post any personal information anywhere on the Internets, because he will find you and run you over with his Grand Prix.
:lol

z0sa

04-03-2009, 11:03 AM

What the fuck are you talking about?? You're busting my balls and calling me a bandwagon fan because I think Bonner is mentally weak? You are the pathetic one. Since when does posting an opinion on a player's mental toughness equate with being a bandwagon fan? I thought only Laker assholes threw insults at people for no apparent reason, but I was wrong.

I happen to think we can do better than Bonner and if you don't like my opinion tough fucking shit. You are seriously delusional to judge me as a bandwagon fan because I think Bonner is mentally weak. He is mentally weak. He never guts it out when it counts and I hope we don't have to depend on him for clutch shots. You can continue kissing his ass but I call it like I see it. And, until he shows otherwise, I stand by my opinion.
:nope

i'll keep callin like i see it too, bandwagoner.

Spursmania

04-03-2009, 11:15 AM

i'll keep callin like i see it too, bandwagoner.

Ok Bonner lover-good luck with that:lmao:lmao

vander

04-03-2009, 11:16 AM

Wow, I can't believe you're comparing a SG-SF with a Center.
Tony Kukoc was a perimetral player dude,not a PF or C.
Get your facts together first.

feel free to use that as an excuse to ignore the substance of my post :lol
that was merely a passing example of a 6-11 3 point shooter who could and did line up at C and was successful. just trying to break your notion that every big man has to be a 20-10 guy with low post moves.

frankly, a 20-10 guy or the like is easier to find than a guy who is cheap, plays a role, has no baggage or ego problems, and helps the team at an +8PPG rate.

z0sa

04-03-2009, 11:32 AM

Ok Bonner lover-good luck with that:lmao:lmao

hell yeah I'm a lover of bonner. I try to enjoy the games instead of endlessly hate on the role players.

:sleep

rascal

04-03-2009, 11:38 AM

If Bonner plays most of his minutes with BOTH Duncan and Parker in the game his numbers will be better than either Duncan or Parker since they play more minutes without both Parker and Duncan in the game.

Another stat to look at is how do the spurs numbers look with both Parker and Duncan in the game and what % of minutes does Bonner play with both Parker and Duncan in the game as compared to how the % of minutes Duncan and Parker play without the other in the game.

rascal

04-03-2009, 11:41 AM

feel free to use that as an excuse to ignore the substance of my post :lol
that was merely a passing example of a 6-11 3 point shooter who could and did line up at C and was successful. just trying to break your notion that every big man has to be a 20-10 guy with low post moves.

frankly, a 20-10 guy or the like is easier to find than a guy who is cheap, plays a role, has no baggage or ego problems, and helps the team at an +8PPG rate.

Not many 20-10 guys in the league. Not easy at all to land one since most teams covet bigs.

z0sa

04-03-2009, 12:03 PM

I'm not asking for a 20-10 guy. But we could use a big who can actually play though and make some stops in the paint.KT and Gooden getting Bonner's minutes would be just fine to me at this point.

You think Gooden's better than Bonner at rotating? He's not, I assure you. Bonner, defensively, is a few steps ahead of Gooden.

Spursmania

04-18-2009, 10:55 PM

Bumping this thread for those Bonner lovers who yelled and yelled about how good he is and criticized us for speaking the truth about Bonner.:toast

HarlemHeat37

04-18-2009, 10:59 PM

wow, my apologies for making this thread..

I was just trying to work my magic that I pulled out with the Finley thread that led to his hot streak..

I'm sorry for those that had to read this, I really am..I'm sorry for offending you..I will have to go through years of therapy for this, I can't believe I wrote good things about Bonner..

Borosai

04-18-2009, 11:08 PM

z0sa

04-18-2009, 11:11 PM

Bumping this thread for those Bonner lovers who yelled and yelled about how good he is and criticized us for speaking the truth about Bonner.:toast

you and your bandwagoning buddies calling bonner out for basically his first real playoff game are fags and haters. Don't give the guy a break or wait to judge him on the entire body of work once these playoffs are done.

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz

04-18-2009, 11:12 PM

that's all right, ignoring facts and going on how you feel is the American condition. It's how Obama got elected and it's why we we will soon be a quasi-socialist nation :toast

Bonner Kool-aid = Obama Kool-aid.

Spursmania

04-18-2009, 11:12 PM

Hell, I still like Matt Bonner. He had a good start with his aggressiveness, but faded quickly. Not good. But he's not the only problem. Too many guys who aren't great defenders are getting big minutes and bad assignments.

Liking Matt Bonner personally has nothing to do with the fact that he sucked tonight just like he's been sucking the latter part of this season. He contributed absolutely nothing tonight and played heavy minutes. I just don't understand Pop and it's not Bonner's fault, Pop's the one who keeps calling his number.

Borosai

04-18-2009, 11:15 PM

Liking Matt Bonner personally has nothing to do with the fact that he sucked tonight just like he's been sucking the latter part of this season. He contributed absolutely nothing tonight and played heavy minutes. I just don't understand Pop and it's not Bonner's fault, Pop's the one who keeps calling his number.

True, but some people around here act as if he sweats HIV. He's a good guy and he does what is asked of him. He's just not extremely talented. I still think he will have a big game.

Mr. Body

04-18-2009, 11:18 PM

He's just not worth the estimation the Spurs' staff seem to have of him.

Sean Cagney

04-18-2009, 11:20 PM

F HIM, I mean that please believe that.

timvp

04-18-2009, 11:22 PM

Borosai

04-18-2009, 11:27 PM

ElNono

04-18-2009, 11:31 PM

Thanks Matty. No one knew you were going to choke in the playoffs. No one knew your inability to board would come back to haunt. No one knew your going to flop on Dampier and then get dunked on. I wasn't yelling "Don't Flop! Don't Flop!". I didn't call you a "M!@#!@! 12#!@#!@ $#%#$%".

:tu

I hate to say this, but the player wearing a red number 4 shirt that shall remain nameless is actually playing great against the Blazers right about now... reminds me of that article on the E-N not long ago titled, "You think you could use him now?"

FaithInOne

04-18-2009, 11:35 PM

Instead of getting down on himself, I wish Bonner would fucking blow a gasket and beat the shit out of his opponents. Use an elbow somewhere, play a little dirty, let the other guys know you're there.

Seriously.

The big fella just doesn't have it in him. :depressedMusta been that Concord upbringing.

HarlemHeat37

04-18-2009, 11:41 PM

Scola is obviously much better, but it doesn't make a difference..we have Drew Gooden, who is a much better option than Bonner..it's as simple as that..

ElNono

04-18-2009, 11:44 PM

Scola is obviously much better, but it doesn't make a difference..we have Drew Gooden, who is a much better option than Bonner..it's as simple as that..

We don't have anybody if they don't play...

Spursmania

04-18-2009, 11:47 PM

Too much Bonner and too little Gooden. And for Bonner lover retards, that means more than 18 minutes for Gooden and less than 18 minutes for Bonner.

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz

04-18-2009, 11:49 PM

Scola is obviously much better, but it doesn't make a difference..we have Drew Gooden, who is a much better option than Bonner..it's as simple as that..

Don't even bring up Scola...The guy's 5-5 with 15 points and has 8 rebounds :bang

honestly, after seeing him do well today in Rockets game 1 compared to Bonner's game 1 as a starter, I'm seriously starting to believe that Pop might not be losing his touch. He just needs to see a psychiatrist. I think on sub-concious level he's trying to vindicate the bad FO-Scola debacle by trying his damnedest to develop Bonner into a serviceable big man next to Timmy.
He's delusional and in denial about the Scola incident. He just can't rationalize it happened. That's the only logical explanation for Bonner's preferential treatment, the 30 + starter minutes and that phony baloney "b-b-but he shoots threes!! look how he stretches the defense!" strategy.

ElNono

04-18-2009, 11:53 PM

I don't want to turn this into a LS thread, but I want to point out it wasn't his rebounding or scoring what I was alluding to. The guy had to guard Aldrige, and he was super physical and defended him incredibly well. That's what I mean by could have used a guy like him.

bigdog

04-18-2009, 11:53 PM

I'm not sure how Bonner is going to help the team in this series. He's weak inside and he's just going to foul his way out of the game. I said this in another thread, but he was a waste of the 18 minutes he played tonight. He had ONE rebound, and no points, with 4 fouls, not to mention his horrible defense. If you're going to be THAT bad on offfense AND defense, you don't belong out there.

z0sa

04-18-2009, 11:54 PM

Thanks Matty. No one knew you were going to choke in the playoffs. No one knew your inability to board would come back to haunt. No one knew your going to flop on Dampier and then get dunked on. I wasn't yelling "Don't Flop! Don't Flop!". I didn't call you a "M!@#!@! 12#!@#!@ $#%#$%".

:tu

Didn't we just sign Kurt Thomas to a 3 year deal paying 30% more money compared with Bonner's contract? How come you're not calling him a choker?

Oh yeah. Because you hate Matt Bonner. If KT would have been in, he'd have been abused all the fucking same.

HarlemHeat37

04-18-2009, 11:59 PM

there's absolutely no way Kurt would be abused like Bonner, sorry bro..Kurt Thomas is tough and strong, he's proven it many times..

Bonner would probably get pushed around by PGs..I don't even want to think about what would happen if Barea and Bonner battled for a rebound, Matt would be traumatized when Barea comes up with the ball..

bigdog

04-19-2009, 12:02 AM

Didn't we just sign Kurt Thomas to a 3 year deal paying 30% more money compared with Bonner's contract? How come you're not calling him a choker?

Oh yeah. Because you hate Matt Bonner. If KT would have been in, he'd have been abused all the fucking same.

Easy to answer this. First of all, Kurt actually rebounds the ball.

Second, KT actually plays defense.

Third, KT isn't a puss.

Bonner plays with no balls. He's soft. KT is a badass.

Spursmania

04-19-2009, 12:09 AM

I'd like to personally thank everybody on this thread for contributing to my original analysis that Bonner is mentally weak and soft. Sorry Zosa, but you're way outnumbered. You seem to be the only one who views Bonner with rose colored glasses, lol...

AussieFanKurt

04-19-2009, 12:12 AM

Easy to answer this. First of all, Kurt actually rebounds the ball.

Second, KT actually plays defense.

Third, KT isn't a puss.

Bonner plays with no balls. He's soft. KT is a badass.

:toast

ElNono

04-19-2009, 12:13 AM

peskypesky

04-19-2009, 12:15 AM

I know it's terrible to say it, but I hope Matt Bonner gets injured ASAP.

z0sa

04-19-2009, 12:21 AM

z0sa

04-19-2009, 12:22 AM

Easy to answer this. First of all, Kurt actually rebounds the ball.

Second, KT actually plays defense.

Third, KT isn't a puss.

Bonner plays with no balls. He's soft. KT is a badass.

kt got abused the exact same as bonner.

he pulled down one more board than bonner for a grand total of 2.

Was actually -9 while Bonner was -8.

dirk and bass both scored on him at will.

jesus, a roleplayer has a bad game in his first real playoff appearance and he gets this? You heartless bastards.

Borosai

04-19-2009, 12:24 AM

I bet you Bonner is at home, taking down all the haters' names right now. Don't be surprised to see a white Grand Prix parked outside your residence from time to time.

SouthTexasRancher

04-19-2009, 12:26 AM

Bonner just flat out

SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
SUCKS!
I mean this guy Really, Really Sucks! He should be in the D-League but, for some reason Pop continues to start his sorry ass. They were eating him alive tonight. I dunno, maybe Pop is just tired of this season and wants to take a long vacation. This team has just never developed a defense. And when Bonner is in there missing assignment after assignment we really stink the arena up. And it is time for Bowen to hang em up. The one thing this years Spurs team is great at is blowing 13-25 point leads to both playoff and non-playoff teams. I hope on Monday all the guys take a 3 hour bath in Lye soap before the game because if they stink Monday like they did tonight I think the fans are gonna run em out of town!

No response as I am just venting. The wife & I and two other couples could have gone to the Alamo Heights Nude Black Tie n' Tails Croquet and Tiddly Winks Doubles Match Party tonight. But, noooooooooooo we gotta go watch our Spurs lose focus again and get their asses kicked again. At least now it is in our favor since we play like shit at home. Damn good thing we lost homecourt advantage because now we can go all the way!!! As long as Pop makes Bonner the team waterboy!

Spursmania

04-19-2009, 10:18 AM

Pop-no more Bonner please! We want to beat Dallas don't you?

NRHector

04-19-2009, 10:36 AM

Scola is obviously much better, but it doesn't make a difference..we have Drew Gooden, who is a much better option than Bonner..it's as simple as that..and what difference does it makes if Gooden doesn't play and Bonner does?:depressed

spurs_50_21

04-19-2009, 10:47 AM

Like him or hate him spurs fans he still a spur ,i hope he gets it together.Hit some threes atleast.

Agloco

04-19-2009, 10:50 AM

I still don't support having him in the starting lineup, but I have to show him some love..

his 3-pointer has been off for a while now..actually, probably ever since we signed Gooden..but he didn't put his head down and let his play sink, he's working on the rest of his game to make up for it..

he's playing tougher and a little more physical..he's making his 2-point shots and driving to the basket a lot more..his hook shot off the run has been looking good..

the old Bonner would have undoubtedly put his head down and allow Pop to have him riding on the end of the bench..good to see some improvement mentally..

This isn't the time to be applauding a guy for taking baby steps towards discovering self-confidence. Give him all of the emotional head you wanna but we need someone out there who will produce. Period.

He isn't. So it's time.........

http://archive.salon.com/people/bc/2001/03/06/chuck_barris/story.jpg

Spursmania

04-25-2009, 11:07 PM

wow. you really think i give a shit. thats cute.

fuck all you bonner haters. he will get through this.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Borosai

04-25-2009, 11:25 PM

Matt Bonner!

NewJerSpur

04-25-2009, 11:34 PM

Matt Bonner needs to shoot on the road and be consitently active on the boards and he's alright with me. His defense has improved a bit as the series has progressed.

Indazone

04-25-2009, 11:51 PM

I can't figure out for the life of me why Bonner got so many minutes tonight? Where was Gooden?????

Spursmania

04-26-2009, 12:21 AM

I can't figure out for the life of me why Bonner got so many minutes tonight? Where was Gooden?????

Nobody can figure this shit out. :depressed

poop

04-26-2009, 12:23 AM

hes beyond the point of no return. bonner = liability...we must offload him at all costs

baseline bum

04-26-2009, 12:30 AM

I can't figure out for the life of me why Bonner got so many minutes tonight? Where was Gooden?????

Gooden was fouling like crazy and playing every bit as bad defensively.

SouthTexasRancher

04-26-2009, 12:37 AM

Matt Bonner, if you are any kind of a man then go tell Mr. Holt you would like to reimburse the Spurs for at least 41 games. Also get Vaughn, Oberto, Mason, Udoka, and Finley to do the same. Tim and Tony have given their all. KT gave it the old college try so I don't fault him but, he needs to retire. Bowen, Hill and Gooden were left on the bench way too much so they can keep their take. Pop should give his whole annual salary back for the lousey job he did this year.

Now Peter Holt, with all this money go get us about 8 young, talented, long, talll, quick, fast, smart and athletic players for next season so we can get one more championship while Tim is still here.

Sean Cagney

04-26-2009, 12:37 AM

FUKK FUKKIN MATT BONNER, period end of story.

SouthTexasRancher

04-26-2009, 12:39 AM

Nobody can figure this shit out. :depressed

Maybe they are closet lovers.

bless1187

04-26-2009, 12:44 AM

Again fuck bonner. He fucking sucks. He's the worst player to ever played on the spurs.

holcs50

04-26-2009, 12:53 AM

Again fuck bonner. He fucking sucks. He's the worst player to ever played on the spurs.

yep fuck him-seriously get rid of everyone besides td,tp,ginobili, and hill, maybe gooden. EOS

NewJerSpur

04-26-2009, 12:55 AM

Again fuck bonner. He fucking sucks. He's the worst player to ever played on the spurs.

Lookup Tony Massenburg.

NewJerSpur

04-26-2009, 02:25 AM

When Mass came back for the 10th time he actually played some good minutes lol.

:lol

Ice009

04-26-2009, 02:31 AM

:lol

WTF are you seriously knocking Massenberg?

He was awesome in 2005. He provided so much toughness off that bench. When someone got out of line you send out Tony and he would foul hard.

I recall when we had games we were up by double digits and he's hammer someone when the drove the lane and Tim would have to go up and tell him to settle down cause we're up 20 ;).

He was actually pretty good too in his limited minutes. I heard the had an accident in the off season and that is the reason he didn't come back. I would have loved to have had him back.

rayray2k8

04-26-2009, 02:46 AM

wow. you really think i give a shit. thats cute.

fuck all you bonner haters. he will get through this.

Let us know when that happens...
Cuz, it's YET to happen..
That piece of shit will be traded by this summer..

NewJerSpur

04-26-2009, 03:40 AM

WTF are you seriously knocking Massenberg?

He was awesome in 2005. He provided so much toughness off that bench. When someone got out of line you send out Tony and he would foul hard.

I recall when we had games we were up by double digits and he's hammer someone when the drove the lane and Tim would have to go up and tell him to settle down cause we're up 20 ;).

He was actually pretty good too in his limited minutes. I heard the had an accident in the off season and that is the reason he didn't come back. I would have loved to have had him back.

:lol

I remember my dad would heckel him during timeouts when we were at a Nets game while he played for them and I think Tony could hear him (the arena was mighty empty like it is now back in those days when Kendal Gill was an All-Star) because when the coaching staff would be discussing plays by the bench Tony would be looking around in an angrily perplexed manner. Those were the days.

If true, I hope he's recovering from the accident okay, basketball or not. We'll always have a spot and some minutes for him if he wants to come out of retirement.