Kobe vs. LeBron shirts!

[dickface]

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take your stand in this great debate!

[duncan228]

I'll stay out of it. :)

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[IronMexican]

Bron

[layupdrill]

nice shirt

[Thunder Dan]

they look like they spent a long time on those graphics

[KidCongo]

they look like they spent a long time on those graphics

deffo worth 25 bucks

[mavs>spurs2]

I'm ordering mine now!

[Allanon]

Who needs a shirt to settle this when the Finals are only a couple of months away?

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Who needs the Finals to settle this when a couple shirts are just $25 away?

[monosylab1k]

Who needs a shirt to settle this when the Finals are only a couple of months away?

Probably because the Cavs won't be in the Finals.

[monosylab1k]

You guys don't seem to understand what a luxurious, rare fabric cotton is. 25 bucks is a steal!

[IronMexican]

I could probably go to the swapmeet and get one made for 15 bucks, on Pro 5 instead of that Triple A.

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Probably because the Cavs won't be in the Finals.

There's a better chance the Lakers won't be there.

In other words... Cavs vs Lakers in the Finals.

[Allanon]

Probably because the Cavs won't be in the Finals.

The Cavs have the best record in the NBA, the Lakers have the best record in the West.

Either one not showing up would be a personal failure by Kobe or LeBron.

[monosylab1k]

The Cavs have the best record in the NBA, the Lakers have the best record in the West.

Either one not showing up would be a personal failure by Kobe or LeBron.

The Lakers are probably going, but the Cavs won't be there. No team that relies on shit like Sasha Pavlovic & Andersen Varejao to give them quality minutes will ever be a great team. It's nice that they made it to the Finals by beating a Detroit team that basically asked to be beaten, but let's not kid ourselves, they still weren't a Finals quality team that year.

It'll be Boston-LA again.

[monosylab1k]

If the Cavs make the Finals, I won't post here for a year.

Save this message, so everyone sees that I'm still the Forum Prophet come Finals time.

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No team that relies on shit like Sasha Pavlovic & Andersen Varejao to give them quality minutes will ever be a great team.

What exactly is so shitty about them? They both play good defense. Pavlovic is a really good 3pt shooter and plays with heart and energy.

Varejao is another good energy guy, hustles well on the boards, and does a lot of the dirty work that most players won't do.

I don't see how having a players like that, who don't even play a substantial amount of minutes, are going to bring them down. It's players like that which makes the Cavs so tough to beat.

[dirk4mvp]

Lakers-Bobcats in the Finals :wakeup

[Thunder Dan]

Stern will see to it that it's a Lakers/Cavs Finals

[Thunder Dan]

The NBA needs a Kobe vs. Lebron Finals. They need a new rivalry. Lakers Celtics was big back before most of us were born. They need a rivalry for this generation. The NBA can't afford to have the Spurs or Magic in the Finals. They need Kobe vs. Lebron.

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Lakers-Bobcats in the Finals :wakeup

Cats in 5

[Allanon]

If the Cavs make the Finals, I won't post here for a year.

Save this message, so everyone sees that I'm still the Forum Prophet come Finals time.

I actually think you have a very good chance of being right on this. I give the Cavs about a 35% chance of making the Finals.

[JoeTait75]

The Lakers are probably going, but the Cavs won't be there. No team that relies on shit like Sasha Pavlovic & Andersen Varejao to give them quality minutes will ever be a great team. It's nice that they made it to the Finals by beating a Detroit team that basically asked to be beaten, but let's not kid ourselves, they still weren't a Finals quality team that year.

It'll be Boston-LA again.

Sasha has been nailed to the bench the last two weeks. No one is relying on him. He'll play spot-minutes in the playoffs against bigger wing players and that's it.

Cavaliers are going to the Finals, where they will play LA. It's going to happen.

Again, it's amazing how much this team is underestimated here.

[Allanon]

Cats in 5

Cats in 5? WTF is wrong with you? Cats would sweep the Lakers.

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Sasha has been nailed to the bench the last two weeks. No one is relying on him. He'll play spot-minutes in the playoffs against bigger wing players and that's it.

Lol that was my point. He was only playing increased minutes because of West and his injury. Other than that, from what I've been seeing lately, he just plays spot minutes, and if he gets hot, he stays in. Even then, hes still not as bad as Mono is saying. He is capable of giving quality minutes, and at least gives effort when he is out there.

[monosylab1k]

Against bad, average, or even pretty good teams, Cleveland's role players suffice. Against an elite team like Boston, those role players won't be good enough in a 7 game series, the offense will stagnate, and it will be the typical Cleveland offense we've seen for years known as "four guys standing around watching LeBron take on a quintuple-team."

[JoeTait75]

Against bad, average, or even pretty good teams, Cleveland's role players suffice. Against an elite team like Boston, those role players won't be good enough in a 7 game series, the offense will stagnate, and it will be the typical Cleveland offense we've seen for years known as "four guys standing around watching LeBron take on a quintuple-team."

Boston had better get healthier and figure out a way to win in Cleveland- something they haven't done in a long time- if they want to beat the Cavaliers in a series.

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Against bad, average, or even pretty good teams, Cleveland's role players suffice. Against an elite team like Boston, those role players won't be good enough in a 7 game series, the offense will stagnate, and it will be the typical Cleveland offense we've seen for years known as "four guys standing around watching LeBron take on a quintuple-team."

You are discrediting Mo Williams a little too much. His presence will defintely be felt this year. Fact is, Lebron still nearly beat the Celtics last year with this 5-on-1 basketball, and hes clearly improved since then, and the team as a whole has as well.

[mavs>spurs2]

JET >> mothafuckin Mo Williams. Mo Williams isn't an over the top acquisition

[Allanon]

JET >> mothafuckin Mo Williams. Mo Williams isn't an over the top acquisition

I think Mo Williams is better player in the regular season than JET because he's more consistent. But JET is a game-changer, Mo Williams is not.

If you need to win a game JET > Mo Williams.

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JET >> mothafuckin Mo Williams. Mo Williams isn't an over the top acquisition

They are almost the same player, but Mo Williams is a better passer and finishes layups better.

I love JET to death, but Mo > JET.

[mavs>spurs2]

I think a Cleveland/LA finals will only show that Kobe is still the man. Kobe looked like he had a point to prove last time they went head to head. But I think Lebron will respond alot better than last time, but fall just short

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I think Mo Williams is better player in the regular season than JET because he's more consistent. But JET is a game-changer, Mo Williams is not.

If you need to win a game JET > Mo Williams.

With Lebron on your team, that doesn't matter as much. I'd take consistency. And its not like Mo is unreliable, or unable to be a game-changer, as he has numerous times hit big shots for the Cavs and led the team on massive runs, had 40+ point games, etc...

[monosylab1k]

a Cleveland/LA finals

That's pretty much a guaranteed win for the Lakers. I'm rooting for Boston only because they can still beat LA.

The last thing we need is for all these douchey ass Lakerfans on this site to be able to brag about winning a ring. Then we'll have a bunch of Kobe>Jordan threads and other bullshit. Go Celtics for that reason alone. Garnett and Boston fans are already douches after winning a ring, we can't take that away. Who cares if they get another, just make sure the damn Lakers don't get one.

[Allanon]

With Lebron on your team, that doesn't matter as much. I'd take consistency. And its not like Mo is unreliable, or unable to be a game-changer, as he has numerous times hit big shots for the Cavs and led the team on massive runs, had 40+ point games, etc...

Yeah, LeBron has pretty much made sure it's not really needed this year. But even LeBron has mismatches he can't overcome.

The best thing about Mo Williams is that he's super reliable but he doesn't play like The Man. The thing about JET is he'll go through long stretches of suckage.

But I've never seen Mo Williams with "Shit, LeBron is sucking tonight, I'm gonna win this shit for him"

JET on the other hand, can literally bring the Mavs back from 20 down.

[monosylab1k]

You guys forget that Mo has choked in almost every "big" game this season.

[mavs>spurs2]

That's pretty much a guaranteed win for the Lakers. I'm rooting for Boston only because they can still beat LA.

The last thing we need is for all these douchey ass Lakerfans on this site to be able to brag about winning a ring. Then we'll have a bunch of Kobe>Jordan threads and other bullshit. Go Celtics for that reason alone. Garnett and Boston fans are already douches for winning a ring, we can't take that away. Who cares if they get another, just make sure the damn Lakers don't get one.

True to that. The Lakers don't need anymore rings, and while although Boston doesn't either, Laker fans are on a whole 'nother level of douchedom. Aside from that, there's all of like one or two Boston fans who post here regularly.

[JoeTait75]

Mo has the ability to carry the team offensively when he's hot, and he also has the confidence to wave off LeBron and handle the basketball in crunch time. He will also take the big shot without hesitation, even on nights where it hasn't been falling to that point. I think he's very comparable to JET. The only question is how he'll perform in the Playoffs. But he's been cold-blooded all season.

[JoeTait75]

You guys forget that Mo has choked in almost every "big" game this season.

Actually, Mo is the only guy who showed up when the Cavaliers got beat in Boston last month.

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But I've never seen Mo Williams with "Shit, LeBron is sucking tonight, I'm gonna win this shit for him"

JET on the other hand, can literally bring the Mavs back from 20 down.

To be fair, how many times has Mo been in a position like that this year? The Cavs have been so good, that the majority of the games they lost, were games where the whole team was simply off... games that all teams go through from time to time.

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Mo has the ability to carry the team offensively when he's hot, and he also has the confidence to wave off LeBron and handle the basketball in crunch time. He will also take the big shot without hesitation, even on nights where it hasn't been falling to that point. I think he's very comparable to JET. The only question is how he'll perform in the Playoffs. But he's been cold-blooded all season.

Considering how similar he is to Jason Terry was in his first year with the Mavs(playing style, no playoff experience, shown a cold-blooded sprit through his career) and pretty much won the Rockets series by himself, I'd say the odds are looking good for Mo. :tu

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Actually, Mo is the only guy who showed up when the Cavaliers got beat in Boston last month.

He clearly doesn't know what he is talking about. He also was talking about how Cavs rely on Pavlovic. :rolleyes

[Allanon]

To be fair, how many times has Mo been in a position like that this year? The Cavs have been so good, that the majority of the games they lost, were games where the whole team was simply off... games that all teams go through from time to time.

Against the Lakers, Lebron was going to get stopped at all costs. Lakers wanted anybody other than LeBron to beat them.

This was the time for Mo to go for 30 points. But he went for his average.

As I said, Mo is a super duper reliable player. You can pen him in for 18 points a night. But when you need him to go for 30, I haven't seen him deliver.

On Jet's side, I've seen him come back like a friggin' storm against the Lakers just a couple of weeks ago.

To be fair to Mo, it's very, very rare that it's needed because the Cavs have been blowing out teams. But I would personally take JET in a Game 7 over Mo, because it just MIGHT be needed.

[Bukefal]

If the Cavs make the Finals, I won't post here for a year.

Save this message, so everyone sees that I'm still the Forum Prophet come Finals time.

Bye bye :downspin:

[monosylab1k]

Actually, Mo is the only guy who showed up when the Cavaliers got beat in Boston last month.

Oh great, he showed up once in a game they lost.

How about both Lakers games? And the season opener against the Celtics? and against Orlando?

[Ghazi]

Mo is much more lethal from behind the arc than JET FWIW. They're very similar players though. I was pondering other day about how Mavs 2-15 is not muc worse (perhaps better) than Cavs 2-15 but the Cavs have the better superstar and more structure, defense, and chemistry than our guys.

Cleveland is 61-13 for a reason guys! Efficient on both ends of the court. They have a shitload of 3-PT shooters a lot of good defensive big men and the best player in the game. Their lack of interior offense is kinda disturbing but I think they can get away with it due to the Lebron factor. This is a much different Cavs team than years past, and it shows in the results.

Home court plays a big role in teh Finals too IMO, if they get there.

The Spurs had home court in all of their series. The Mavs won the '06 title w/ home court. Lakers had HC during their 3-PEAT. Only exception is the 2004 Pistons in the post-JOrdan era.

Boston has a better chance of beating Cleveland than LA.

I believe the East will win the title this year one way or the other.

[JoeTait75]

You guys forget that Mo has choked in almost every "big" game this season.


Oh great, he showed up once in a game they lost.


Boston was a "big" game. You said Mo choked in "big" games. I showed you a "big" game in which he didn't choke. Those goalposts heavy when you move them?