2009 free agents list

[poop]

these guys will be unrestricted free agents this summer.
after unloading lost of older guys this offseason we should have money to sign a few.

eddie house - 31yrs, $2.65m in '09

Ben Gordon - 26yrs, $6.4m in '09 - young, 20ppg, scorer, could replace Manu's scoring

brandon bass-24yrs, $0.9m in '09- young big strong athletic PF with solid numbers for cheap. especailly if dallas blows up their team.

ron artest - 30yrs, $7.4m in '09 -could provide defense, scoring, big strong and athletic

Trevor Ariza - 24yrs, $3.1m in '09 -long shot but provides youth, athleticism, shooting, and DEFENSE. a true Bowen replacement.

matt barnes - 29yrs, $0.8m in '09- athletic SF who can shoot and score.

carlos boozer - 28yrs, $11.5m in '09

kyle korver - 28yrs, $5m in '09

mehmet okur - 30yrs, $8.5m in '09 - would be an upgrade over bonner, shoots just as well but a far superior rebounder.

honestly i think Manu is done other that the occasional flash, we should go after Gordon as a replacement, also try Ariza or even Artest in the offseason.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ben Gordon is going to get paid too much, and he doesn't fit in our system at all..

Eddie House is a worse version of Roger Mason..

[Muser]

I'd love to see Ben Gordon in a Spurs top, shame he's gonna cost too much.

[jrmp317]

Eddie House :rollin

[rayray2k8]

My god, we're at this point now?
Well.. I guess it's not THAT early right now.
With Splitter, Gist and Ian on the way, the future
looks a bit bright.
Still got Hill, Mason and that kid Hairston looked pretty good.
Oh and what about Parker? lol
The kid is amazing.
Looks like we'll be building around Parker for the future.
I'd say that Duncan and Ginobili can give their best for
only 2 more years..
Window is still open. :)

How many expiring contracts do the spurs have anyway?
Isn't manu's contract up by this year????
If it is, they offer a lesser contract next season.

Who's not coming back next season?

[poop]

oh i only put guys 30 or younger in there, and left out Lamar Odom cause theres no chance, and he makes $14 million, as well as some other guys who did not seem to produce enough.

i think brandon bass could be a really good pickup as well as Gordon.

[Libri]

My god, we're at this point now?
Well.. I guess it's not THAT early right now.
With Splitter, Gist and Ian on the way, the future
looks a bit bright.
Still got Hill, Mason and that kid Hairston looked pretty good.
Oh and what about Parker? lol
The kid is amazing.
Looks like we'll be building around Parker for the future.
I'd say that Duncan and Ginobili can give their best for
only 2 more years..
Window is still open. :)

Has the situation with Splitter changed? I think I missed reading about it.

[WalterBenitez]

Trevor, the rest wouldn't have the chemistry we are acustom to

[mexicanjunior]

Gordon and Bass would be my top choices on that list although I don't think we could afford either. Resigning Gooden, along with bringing in Gist, Hairston and Mahihmni will probably be the extent of the off season.

[VI_Massive]

I don't understand the love affair with Ben Gordon -- how is he any better than Mason?

Love me some Ariza. That guy is really good and has exactly what we need -- length, youth, athleticism, and killer perimeter D. That being said, I can't imagine LA doesn't lock him up. If they don't it'll be because he got overpaid by someone else. That's less likely in this offseason, so I expect he re-signs with LA.

As far as Odom is concerned, I really don't know if LA will be able to sign both he and Ariza. Ariza's due for a raise, Odom for a slight pay reduction. If they signed both of them, they would be in some serious luxury tax area. Maybe its worth it for them, but it would be hefty. I am fascinated to see what LA will do with those guys after this season. Obviously a lot of it depends on their performance in the playoffs, but it will be interesting to see.

[45 bank shot]

I don't understand the love affair with Ben Gordon -- how is he any better than Mason?

Love me some Ariza. That guy is really good and has exactly what we need -- length, youth, athleticism, and killer perimeter D. That being said, I can't imagine LA doesn't lock him up. If they don't it'll be because he got overpaid by someone else. That's less likely in this offseason, so I expect he re-signs with LA.

As far as Odom is concerned, I really don't know if LA will be able to sign both he and Ariza. Ariza's due for a raise, Odom for a slight pay reduction. If they signed both of them, they would be in some serious luxury tax area. Maybe its worth it for them, but it would be hefty. I am fascinated to see what LA will do with those guys after this season. Obviously a lot of it depends on their performance in the playoffs, but it will be interesting to see.

hello, hez more athletic and can actually drive to the rim:blah

[mexicanjunior]

I don't understand the love affair with Ben Gordon -- how is he any better than Mason?


He is a more consistent shooter and has the ability to put the ball on the floor and finish at the rim.

[VI_Massive]

Also, I think we need someone better defensively than Gooden. LJ is right on target -- the guy is a ballhog (though maybe he's out there selfing it for a new deal, which is its own problem) and doesn't play good D. Not good for a long term investment.

At first look I am very opposed to us going after more old guys like McDyess and Rasheed. But, if they could be had for a good price it might be worth it. This is probably Kurt Thomas' last year as a solid defender and we could use someone to plug the hole there.

Chris Anderson really interests me, but he is a risk. Does he have the right attitude? Will moving back to Texas fuck with his sobriety too much? Is this choir boy/great player thing an act in a contract year?

We've had guys with character issues flourish -- Sjax -- but has Andersen really put all that bullshit behind him?

A lot of these questions will lower his price, which could be a good thing. However, he has gotten some big publicity this year and I think his price will go up a lot. With Camby gone, maybe Denver has the money to lock him up and does.

[SenorSpur]

Absolutely LOVE Trevor Ariza. I've wanted the Spurs to go after him when he left the Knicks for Orlando. He languished on Orlando's bench for a bit. Of course, he didn't have a 3-pt shot then. I'd love for the Spurs to go after him, but he'll be expensive. Also, make no mistake, there is NO WAY the Fakers let him get away. He's too valuable to what they do defensively.

[ducks]

hornets want to dump chandler
the downside to chandler is health

[ElNono]

Half of those guys are getting re-signed by their respective teams...

[SenorSpur]

As far as Odom is concerned, I really don't know if LA will be able to sign both he and Ariza. Ariza's due for a raise, Odom for a slight pay reduction. If they signed both of them, they would be in some serious luxury tax area. Maybe its worth it for them, but it would be hefty. I am fascinated to see what LA will do with those guys after this season. Obviously a lot of it depends on their performance in the playoffs, but it will be interesting to see.

I don't know this for sure, but I'd be willing to wager anyone that resigning Ariza is a higher priority for the Fakers than resigning Odom. Perhaps some of our Fakers posters can offer up a more informed opinion.

At any rate, Jerry Buss is on record as an owner who's not afraid to enter luxury tax zone in order to fulfill championship expectations.

[VI_Massive]

OK -- maybe Gordon has a more diverse offensive game than Mason, but he's got no D and at 6'3" isn't really what I'm looking for in a 2 guard.

[45 bank shot]

so what is the odd for us to resign Gooden?
anyone?

[VI_Massive]

I don't know this for sure, but I'd be willing to wager anyone that resigning Ariza is a higher priority for the Fakers than resigning Odom. Perhaps some of our Fakers posters can offer up a more informed opinion.

At any rate, Jerry Buss is on record as an owner who's not afraid to enter luxury tax zone in order to fulfill championship expectations.

Agreed. But look at this:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm

They're almost 20 mill over the cap for next season without either Odom or Ariza, and they'd be lucky to sign them for 15 mill combined.

I agree Buss will pay the tax, but at some point it gets to be too much, right?

I also agree that they probably value resigning Ariza over Odom, assuming Bynum's health is OK.

[mexicanjunior]

OK -- maybe Gordon has a more diverse offensive game than Mason, but he's got no D and at 6'3" isn't really what I'm looking for in a 2 guard.

And Mason does? He's defense has been passable at best and downright atrocious at times. At least Gordon will score as much as he gives up...

[VI_Massive]

so what is the odd for us to resign Gooden?
anyone?

Low, I think. His D isn't there and when the ball gets to him, it stops until he shoots it. Maybe he can be coached up more, but I don't think so.

[VI_Massive]

And Mason does? He's defense has been passable at best and downright atrocious at times. At least Gordon will score as much as he gives up...

I'm not in love with Mason either. I think Gordon would be more of the same -- with some better offense -- at a higher price.

[rayray2k8]

so what is the odd for us to resign Gooden?
anyone?

Well how much would the spurs be under the cap?
Can someone find out who's contracts expire this year?
I think Manu's is one.

[sananspursfan21]

trevor ariza and brandon bass! go get'em SA! :toast

[VI_Massive]

Well how much would the spurs be under the cap?
Can someone find out who's contracts expire this year?
I think Manu's is one.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

[HarlemHeat37]

I feel like the Wizards might be a suitable trade partner for us..they might want to tweak their team, since their big 3 hasn't worked out for them..Caron Butler expires a year later than Manu, Brendan Haywood and Andray Blatche would be nice additions as well..I feel like something can work out there..

[xtremesteven33]

1. Ron Artest
2. Rasheed Wallace
3. Trevor Ariza


Thats my wish list in that order.....

[poop]

Gooden has looked pretty good so far, he should definitely be in the considerations. we'll see how the playoffs look

[SenorSpur]

Agreed. But look at this:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm

They're almost 20 mill over the cap for next season without either Odom or Ariza, and they'd be lucky to sign them for 15 mill combined.

I agree Buss will pay the tax, but at some point it gets to be too much, right?

I also agree that they probably value resigning Ariza over Odom, assuming Bynum's health is OK.

Also keep in mind that Bynum just inked a new extension, which, if I'm correct, kicks in next year.

[VI_Massive]

Artest is way too much of a head case. Even this year, when he's been on his best behavior, you can tell he's a guy you can't trust in crunch time. He's out there on his own, doing his own thing, taking too many jump shots, etc.

I love his skills but he takes bad shots and as a result shoots a low percentage.

[VI_Massive]

Also keep in mind that Bynum just inked a new extension, which, if I'm correct, kicks in next year.

its on there. check it.

[SenorSpur]

its on there. check it.

Yeah, I see it now. Thanks for posting.

The other thing working against the Spurs, or any other team that has their sights set on Ariza, is he's a California dude. I remember reading a comment from him on how much he enjoys being back in Cali.

[VI_Massive]

Yeah, I see it now. Thanks for posting.

The other thing working against the Spurs, or any other team that has their sights set on Ariza, is he's a California dude. I remember reading a comment from him on how much he enjoys being back in Cali.

Yeah, unless Jerry Buss runs over Ariza's dog or something, I think he'll want to stay in LA and they want him back.

[spurtech09]

Trevor Ariza

[FvckMavs]

Is AI free agent this summer? Don't think he fits with us though.

[dbestpro]

Sign Gooden. No money left for anybody else. Re-explore trade for Vince Carter.

[VI_Massive]

Is AI free agent this summer? Don't think he fits with us though.

I can't think of anyone LESS suitable for Spurs Basketball than Iverson.

[mountainballer]

these guys will be unrestricted free agents this summer.
after unloading lost of older guys this offseason we should have money to sign a few.

eddie house - 31yrs, $2.65m in '09

Ben Gordon - 26yrs, $6.4m in '09 - young, 20ppg, scorer, could replace Manu's scoring

brandon bass-24yrs, $0.9m in '09- young big strong athletic PF with solid numbers for cheap. especailly if dallas blows up their team.

ron artest - 30yrs, $7.4m in '09 -could provide defense, scoring, big strong and athletic

Trevor Ariza - 24yrs, $3.1m in '09 -long shot but provides youth, athleticism, shooting, and DEFENSE. a true Bowen replacement.

matt barnes - 29yrs, $0.8m in '09- athletic SF who can shoot and score.

carlos boozer - 28yrs, $11.5m in '09

kyle korver - 28yrs, $5m in '09

mehmet okur - 30yrs, $8.5m in '09 - would be an upgrade over bonner, shoots just as well but a far superior rebounder.

honestly i think Manu is done other that the occasional flash, we should go after Gordon as a replacement, also try Ariza or even Artest in the offseason.

jesus kid, you should really study the basic rules of the CBA before posting such nonsense.
Spurs will only have the MLE, this doesn't put them into position to "sign a few" of your list.
Gordon is out of reach, so is Boozer, so are most of the other guys there. and most need to opt out in the first place, guys like Okur and Korver are unlikely to do this in this FA unfriendly summer.

the more realistic FA options are Sheed or Chris Wilcox. or Gooden, if he works well in the PO. maybe they go for Ariza, he developed something that looks somehow like a shot, but I'm pretty sure the Lakers will offer him also MLE money. and why should a UCLA guy, who always wanted to play for the Lakers, leave this team that will be a contender for the next 3 years, for less money?

considering that the Spurs might have to replace several players, a split of the MLE is likely not unlikely.
Chris Andersen+ Stephen Graham
Quinton Ross + Shelden Williams
Rasho+Wally
Pachulia+Rodney Carney
or other combinations of such players. that's the more likely scenario IMO.

[rayray2k8]

jesus kid, you should really study the basic rules of the CBA before posting such nonsense.
Spurs will only have the MLE, this doesn't put them into position to "sign a few" of your list.
Gordon is out of reach, so is Boozer, so are most of the other guys there. and most need to opt out in the first place, guys like Okur and Korver are unlikely to do this in this FA unfriendly summer.

the more realistic FA options are Sheed or Chris Wilcox. or Gooden, if he works well in the PO. maybe they go for Ariza, he developed something that looks somehow like a shot, but I'm pretty sure the Lakers will offer him also MLE money. and why should a UCLA guy, who always wanted to play for the Lakers, leave this team that will be a contender for the next 3 years, for less money?

considering that the Spurs might have to replace several players, a split of the MLE is likely not unlikely.
Chris Andersen+ Stephen Graham
Quinton Ross + Shelden Williams
Rasho+Wally
Pachulia+Rodney Carney
or other combinations of such players. that's the more likely scenario IMO.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm
Yep with only Vaughn and Udoka with expiring contracts, spurs aint
getting much back for those 2.
But you can't rule out the possibility of trading 1 or more of our players.
Players for picks maybe?
Gonna be an interesting summer.. again.

I was talking about Splitter earlier and yeah, he's still under contract with
TAU till 2012...
But, here's the latest.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tiago-Splitter-25/

[TheSpursFNRule]

Obviously guys like Artest, Wallace and even Ariza are out of the question. Are any off-season trades realistic though? Also what free agents seem to be the most realistic?

Matt Barnes seems like a reasonable Free agent signing I like the way he plays. Maybe the Spurs could work a trade for RJ, VC or Nocioni?

[Muser]

Is AI free agent this summer? Don't think he fits with us though.


We want an upgrade, not a cancer.

[Morg1411]

We want an upgrade, not a cancer.

Fuck AI.

[HarlemHeat37]

Obviously guys like Artest, Wallace and even Ariza are out of the question. Are any off-season trades realistic though? Also what free agents seem to be the most realistic?

Matt Barnes seems like a reasonable Free agent signing I like the way he plays. Maybe the Spurs could work a trade for RJ, VC or Nocioni?

Wallace isn't out of the question at all..

the only real options we're going to have for significant trades is Manu..so it will depend on loyalty, and whether or not the front office has enough confidence in him to contribute at a high level next season..

[poop]

i cant believe people are considering Rasho or freaking Carney.

[TheSpursFNRule]

Wallace isn't out of the question at all..

the only real options we're going to have for significant trades is Manu..so it will depend on loyalty, and whether or not the front office has enough confidence in him to contribute at a high level next season..

So let me get this straight Wallace isn't out of the question even if we DON'T do a trade? My question is, do we have enough to offer Wallace without trading anyone? Same with Ron Ron do we have enough to offer without trading anyone?

[Slinkyman]

we'll be lucky if Holt offers Gooden any money. Lux tax is going to be lowered and in this economy we're not going anywhere near that.

[ulosturedge]

I think the only free agents worth really going after from that list is Ariza and Wallace. Weather we have a real shot at getting either of them is a totally different story. Other then that bring in Gist along side Hill, Hairston, and Mahinmi. Well and try and scrap for more players out of the draft lol...

[Josepatches_]

My god, we're at this point now?
Well.. I guess it's not THAT early right now.
With Splitter, Gist and Ian on the way, the future
looks a bit bright.
Still got Hill, Mason and that kid Hairston looked pretty good.
Oh and what about Parker? lol
The kid is amazing.
Looks like we'll be building around Parker for the future.
I'd say that Duncan and Ginobili can give their best for
only 2 more years..
Window is still open. :)


With those players the future will be going to the lottery.
Building around Parker isn't the way to win tittles.He's not as good.

We won championships while TD was the best or close to the best NBA player.Right now we don't have any player close to Lebron,Howard,Kobe or Wade.

Whithout Manu and TD our best way to rebuilt the team will be the NBA draft and be lucky to get one Robinson or Duncan.

[TimDunkem]

How do we even know if James Gist will even be coming over here in the offseason?

[TimDunkem]

How do we even know if James Gist will even be coming over here in the offseason?

[Lakers999]

trevor ariza will not leave a starting position on a championship contender team in LOS ANGELES a place where he grew up. and besides I think the lakers can offer more than you guys anyway. AND if the lakers win the title expect all the players to stay right where they are.... there are no James Posey's on this team

you spurs have fan can take that pipe dream and shove it where the sun dont shine

trevor is ours you guys have wobbly ginobili

[VI_Massive]

How do we even know if James Gist will even be coming over here in the offseason?

I think he and the Spurs have something of an understanding, that he will play in Europe for now and get a shot in the States next summer. Pretty sure his European contract expires this year or he has a feasible buyout.

[TimDunkem]

I think he and the Spurs have something of an understanding, that he will play in Europe for now and get a shot in the States next summer. Pretty sure his European contract expires this year or he has a feasible buyout.
I hope we could get a confirmation on that because this team needs a guy like Gist on the roster.

[Biggems]

trevor ariza will not leave a starting position on a championship contender team in LOS ANGELES a place where he grew up. and besides I think the lakers can offer more than you guys anyway. AND if the lakers win the title expect all the players to stay right where they are.... there are no James Posey's on this team

you spurs have fan can take that pipe dream and shove it where the sun dont shine

trevor is ours you guys have wobbly ginobili

this was a stupid post.....and why was it stupid.....cause you are just trying to start shit. every post I saw about Ariza in this thread stated that we want him in SA, but realize he will be expensive and most likely wont leave LA.....

so Mr. Laker Fan...thank you for your redundency.

[Lakers999]

this was a stupid post.....and why was it stupid.....cause you are just trying to start shit. every post I saw about Ariza in this thread stated that we want him in SA, but realize he will be expensive and most likely wont leave LA.....

so Mr. Laker Fan...thank you for your redundency.


lighten up

:toast