True Colors.........

[SequSpur]

are shown without Duncan.

Pop can't coach dick.

:pctoss

[Kori Ellis]

There's a Game Blog thread.

Thanks.

[Kori Ellis]

Sequ, post some of substance for once.

The game blog is where you put random thoughts. If you want to start this thread, post something of substance.

What specifically did Pop do wrong tonight? What would you have done different?

If you want to just post random crap, do it in the Blog. If you want to post something real that promotes discussion.. here's your frickin' thread.

[ALVAREZ6]

Someone agrees with me for once, and the irony behind it is that the person is Sequ.

[stéphane]

you should develop what you started last time,
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12354

[3rdCoast]

pop = tool

[ZStomp]

WEll, luckily TIM DUNCAN IS ON THE TEAM. So we don't have to worry about that.

[Kori Ellis]

pop = tool

Can you read?

The game blog is for your random thoughts. This thread is for Sequ's and anybody else with their in depth analysis of what Pop did wrong tonight.

[rascal]

Without Duncan the spurs are a lottery team.

A team full of role players with no one other than duncan who can be a consistent 20 point scorer. The spurs weaknesses are exposed without Duncan. They just don't have any big time players capable of being go to 20+ point scorers who can step it up without Duncan.

[ZStomp]

Can you read?

The game blog is for your random thoughts. This thread is for Sequ's and anybody else with their in depth analysis of what Pop did wrong tonight.


Shoot.

Then I don't belong here. I'm a Pop supporter.

[ALVAREZ6]

I didn't watch the game, so, can someone please explain why we got blown out by an eastern conference team that isn't going to make the play-offs?

[SequSpur]

Random?

Its not random that Pop has no clue about adjustments or.......

If you will.......

He doesn't have the tools.

Which he recruited and signed.

Dude has had the most money for the past five years in the NBA and has Rasho, Barry, Nazr and Beno to show for it.

I would've resigned Claxton, offering him a chance to compete for the starting position. (But after the contract is signed, bring him off the bench)

I would've locked up Jackson for 5+ years.

I would've signed any other center not named Rasho or that dude from Minnesota.

As far as coaching, get the tools, and then coach.

Without Duncan, this dude is nothing.

[ChumpDumper]

Would've been nice had any guard besieds Devin scored at all. I suppose I would've brought Glover in sooner.

[maxpower]

random crap

If that is not a perfect title I don't know what is.
:elephant

[rascal]

Agree

The lottery prize Duncan who anyone on this board could have gotten has bailed out Pop. The players he has surrounded duncan with are no better than a lottery team talentwise.

[stéphane]

Agree

The lottery prize Duncan who anyone on this board could have gotten has bailed out Pop. The players he has surrounded duncan with are no better than a lottery team talentwise.


BS

[SequSpur]

I am really concerned that this team cannot finish games. They look dumbfounded out there when Rasho or Barry are in the game. They got bentover tonight and spanked dry.

Who is to blame? Parker? Barry? Ginobili? Malik?

How about POP.

I am very upset about this collapse in the second half and the lack of anyone on this team to step up to the plate and win the damn game.

Last year, when Duncan went out, the players stepped up, this year, I don't think anyone knows their role.

[ALVAREZ6]

I agree with Sequ on the Spurs' lack of FINISHING WHAT THEY STARTED!!!

The Spurs normally come out on fire, under control, owning in the 1st quarters with a lot of energy...but they don't have a killer instinct to finish the game, and keep the lead up. Once they have a big lead, they don't maintain it.

Someone, when we are winning by 20, a scrubby team comes back and wins. I don't know why, but the Spurs can't finish games. They only try in the 1st quarter.

[stéphane]

back to back game...
TP and Manu just back after injuries...
the need to adjust off & def scheme w/o TD
etc etc etc

[Experiment2100]

So rascal back after 18 day hiatus right after Duncan's out and Spurs lose. The players are better than any lottery team out there. Keep in mind it would have to be a run and gun style.

[SequSpur]

I don't care about back to backs, with or without Duncan, blah blah blah..........

I don't expect this team or any other team without Duncan or Shaq to win a championship.

What I am saying is after 60 games and a preseason, Barry, Rasho, Beno, Ginobili and Parker are on different pages.

WTF?

A coaching problem.

[3rdCoast]

i dont get it K, just dont get it

[T Park]

who would you hire to replace pop?

[stéphane]

I don't care about back to backs, with or without Duncan, blah blah blah..........

I don't expect this team or any other team without Duncan or Shaq to win a championship.

What I am saying is after 60 games and a preseason, Barry, Rasho, Beno, Ginobili and Parker are on different pages.

WTF?

A coaching problem.

lol you're a joke.
enjoy your thread

[rascal]

The spurs without Duncan just aren't very good. They would be a lottery team with one of the worst records without duncan.

Thats the reason. They are a bunch of role players and without their one true superstar they don't have anyone whi can be a consistent go to scorer. Parker and Manu are good but they are not consistent go to players that can win without Duncan.

[T Park]

What I am saying is after 60 games and a preseason, Barry, Rasho, Beno, Ginobili and Parker are on different pages.

Funny they were on the same page earlier in the season.

Guess that Duncan guy would have something to do with it??

nah.

But, Speedy Claxton would have won the game tonight.

[SequSpur]

who would you hire to replace pop?

I hate to say this, but Terri Schiavo could get more from Barry than Pop could.

[T Park]

Answer the question numnuts and use your fuckin peabrain.

[T Park]

BTW,

how many more open shots does brent barry need shitfuck.

[SequSpur]

Answer the question numnuts and use your fuckin peabrain.

Spurs need a change. Who gives a crap who.... Anyone that can draw up a play besides the four down, the picknroll with Parker and Duncan at the top or the I'm wide open Bowen shot.

It was great to see Parker and Rasho running the high pick and roll at the top of the key and Rasho wasn't even guarded. :lol

It would be nice to run that play with someone that could shoot. Sure would help out Parker.......... :angel

But hey its not Pop's fault. He gets them to the arena on time. :elephant

STFU tpark.

[T Park]

As usual, you play your little fuckin child game.

ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION

WHO WOULD YOU HAVE COACH THE TEAM IN FUCKIN STEAD GODDAMNT!!!!


Son of a bitch.

[T Park]

Anyone that can draw up a play besides the four down, the picknroll with Parker and Duncan at the top or the I'm wide open Bowen shot.


Or the wide open Barry brick maybe??

[T Park]

Answer the question

Waiting Troll.

[SequSpur]

http://www.comedycentral.com/images/a4/tvshows/chappelleshow/Chappelle_seas2_a4_3.jpg

This guy would definitely be better than Pop.

[T Park]

You have yet to answer the question.

Answer the question troll.

[CHAMPS AGAIN]

I am really concerned that this team cannot finish games. They look dumbfounded out there when Rasho or Barry are in the game. They got bentover tonight and spanked dry.

Who is to blame? Parker? Barry? Ginobili? Malik?

How about POP.

I am very upset about this collapse in the second half and the lack of anyone on this team to step up to the plate and win the damn game.

Last year, when Duncan went out, the players stepped up, this year, I don't think anyone knows their role.

WHO cares what you think deep down you are a SPURS hater and a HOMER when they win the title.If I was in charge of this forum you would have been BAN a long time ago. You are just never happy with whatever the SPURS do in each game .SPURS win you BITCH they lose you BITCH even more. If you know how to use the SPURS rotation and who to signed in the offseason why don't you become an NBA coach oh I forgot you just a honey do this honey do that you f^cking LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER

[SequSpur]

:lol

Poor execution. Not only by Pop's team but your rant.

[T Park]

Uh, Sequ,

you have as usual, are being a chickenshit, and HAVEN'T answered the question.

[TDfan2007]

Spurs are a lottery bound team w/out Tim.

we are 1-5 w/out Tim this year.

And for those of you who believe our role players stepped up last year: we were 4-5 w/out Tim last year (still a losing record).

Tim should get SERIOUS consideration for MVP this year.

[T Park]

TD,

name a team that looses there franchise player that plays "well"

[TDfan2007]

TPark, name a team w/ a franchise player that has done this well (the team).

[3rdCoast]

SAC played better without Webber when he was there right?

[kskonn]

SAC played better without Webber when he was there right?


I don't think I would call Weber a Franchise Player, only because he was on Sac. The had Peja who was equally productive, as well as Bibby. To me that would be like calling Manu a Franchise player(IMO), although Weber over his career is more of a consistent player than ginobli. However I can only think of one team with a franchise player that did this well and that would be the Lakers when they had shaq. Now the Heat since they have shaq are showing signs of immediate success.

This team was built to support Duncan. I honestly feel with some practice time without duncan you will see the spurs play better for the remainder of his absence. That was the case last year. The silver lining to this injury is that this will be a good gut check for the spurs.

[Gummi]

SequSpur has finally proved me right, he doesn't know anything about basketball. To say that Pop is a bad coach just makes me laugh. Have you noticed that we played without Duncan and also that Ginobili is playing his second game after sitting out 5 games or so? The team as a whole played very poorly in the second half. Parker was terrible in the second half, Barry was just himself, horrible. We had 17 TO and shot the ball like crap.

And you want to blame this loss on Pop? Why don't you find another sport to root for you dumb a$$? Every thread you start is almost too stupid to reply. I just couldn't help myself this time.

[milkyway21]

I would've resigned Claxton, offering him a chance to compete for the starting position. (But after the contract is signed, bring him off the bench)

Without Duncan, this dude is nothing...i thought you said Duncan is playing non-MVP like this season :rolleyes and;

that trick you want Pops to do with Claxton, isn't it unfair for this organization who is known for it's excellent management, to sign a player like that and trick him after?

Sequ, you amaze me. :lol

[cqsallie]

I didn't watch the game, so, can someone please explain why we got blown out by an eastern conference team that isn't going to make the play-offs?
If you didn't watch the game, you're one of the lucky ones. Those of us who watched the Spurs lose, despite our ravings and rantings directed at the TV screen, which couldn't in any way help us, are much worse off than you are. We who watched the game, also watched the Spurs trample on a lead.
It's much too ugly to go into! You have no idea what was taking place inside my house - just short of punching out walls.
Well, you get what you deserve, when it all boils down. Without Tim Duncan and a 100% Manu Ginobili, we don't seem to be "the team." I did think that there were players who could step into the breech, but I'm not sure they have enough self-confidence to make the plunge.
I predicted 61 wins for the Spurs, which seems to be too high a prediction now. :depressed :depressed I'm thinking of dropping that down a game...

[polandprzem]

Claxton and Jackson Sequ?
Where are they now?

You think pop should dressed up and play?
Maybe he would score.
Because , you know, Barry can't hit them.

Sequ for a coach.

[smeagol]

Happy to see nothing has changed. Sequ being his stupid self and rascal poping out of his shithole after a Spurs' L.

Sequ, Pop's the coach with better W:L ratio, you idiot. He won two championships. He will win aonother this year. I don't care he did all this because he had Duncan. STFU.

rascal, I was happy that you were not posting. I thought you had gone on a permanent vacation to Siberia or something. Sad to see you are back.

[rascal]

The Spurs have not gotten enough talent to even be a .500 team without Duncan.
Every year top players are traded and many for not equal talent in return and the spurs do nothing but settle for role players like Rasho, Horry, Barry ect.

role players can only take you so far. Go to stars like Vince Carter and Walker were recently traded and now are helping their new teams but the spurs do nothing more than settle for role players every year.

Now we see what the spurs really are. A team that Duncan carries with no one else being able to consistently play well enough to make the spurs anything more than a lottery team without Duncan.

[Ballcox]

Is Sequspur for real on this shit he's talking out of his ass about? I'm fairly new to this forum, so I don't know this guys history, but it's fairly obvious he's an idiot when it comes to basketball knowledge, am I wrong? Has this guy been an idiot for a long time on this board? Get some perspective, dude. Go out, take a walk, do some meditation or something, then open both of your eyes before you make a complete ass of yourself on this forum. Just something to chew on.

respect the 'fro :fro

[IX_Equilibrium]

Anyone bashing Pop is a fucking moron and needs to get a clue.

[Nikos]

Go to stars like Vince Carter and Walker were recently traded and now are helping their new teams but the spurs do nothing more than settle for role players every year.

Rascal you just lost ALL your credibility with that statement (not that you ever had any). Antoine Walker helps the Celtics -- did you care to notice how he made the Mavs a WORSE team last season? I even seen Mavs fans admit this and even NBA fans who follow all teams.

How the hell can you call Walker a star when he made a 60 win team with tons of chemistry in 2002-03 to a significantly WORSE team with his presense? Retarded post, and probably one of the worst ones I have seen on this board. Antoine Walker a star. What a joke.

We already know your opinions, the Spurs suck without Duncan and have worthless role players.

So why don't you beat it? Nobody likes your posts at all, and you bring NOTHING to the forum. No one cares about what you have to say, and what you say has NO BEARING on the Spurs making any trades for Antoine Walker. Your posts are scum and you only make the message board a worse place to go to.

I would ask you to post some substance, but you are simply incapable of it. You are close-minded and the ultimate pessamist. None of your takes contain a semblance of originality nor do they do anything to advance rational debates on the forum. You bring out a bag of 'I told you so's' to the posters you perceive as homers and expect props for that? Give me a break. Nothing that happens with the Spurs this season will ever prove any sort of brilliance on your part. So do the board a favor and get lost.

[Nikos]

Without Duncan the spurs are a lottery team.

A team full of role players with no one other than duncan who can be a consistent 20 point scorer. The spurs weaknesses are exposed without Duncan. They just don't have any big time players capable of being go to 20+ point scorers who can step it up without Duncan.

Is that all it takes? A 20 point scorer? How come the Warriors and Hawks SUCK with Jrich and Antoine Walker?

Why can't the Clippers win anything with TWO 20pt scorers in Brand and Maggette?

Great point rascal, your a true braniac. All this team needs is Antoine Walker paired with Duncan and a title is inevitable :rolleyes

[smeagol]

The Spurs have not gotten enough talent to even be a .500 team without Duncan.
I'm willing to bet you $10,000 that if you leave this team as it is and you replace TD with a decent big, not a star but a guy like T. Chandler, this team wins easily 50 games a makes the second round in the playoffs.

By the way, rascal, A. Walker is a true star. He shines bright among the brightest of the NBA stars.

What and idiot . . .

[E20]

Rascal and Sequ can't bring nothing to the table except a pussy ass commen that has no meaning whatsoever to it. If they say one thing a million things come into mind on what I should say to prove them wrong.

[TDfan2007]

I'm willing to bet you $10,000 that if you leave this team as it is and you replace TD with a decent big, not a star but a guy like T. Chandler, this team wins easily 50 games a makes the second round in the playoffs.

By the way, rascal, A. Walker is a true star. He shines bright among the brightest of the NBA stars.

What and idiot . . .

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao @ SMEAGOL

[ALVAREZ6]

I'm willing to bet you $10,000 that if you leave this team as it is and you replace TD with a decent big, not a star but a guy like T. Chandler, this team wins easily 50 games a makes the second round in the playoffs.
Totally Agree.

The Spurs have a hell of a team talent wise, the thing is, they're all guards.

The Pistons on the other hand can have their best players all on the court at the same time, talent wise, not just the best players in each position.
Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Tayshaun Prince, Richard Hamilton, and Chauny Billups = the best players on the Pistons roster.

Spurs top 5 best players talent-wise= Duncan, Manu, Parker, Barry(last season version), Brown or Beno.

My point is, the Spurs can't have their most talented players on the floor at once, where the Pistons can...and they still have a nice bench.

[rascal]

I'm willing to bet you $10,000 that if you leave this team as it is and you replace TD with a decent big, not a star but a guy like T. Chandler, this team wins easily 50 games a makes the second round in the playoffs.

By the way, rascal, A. Walker is a true star. He shines bright among the brightest of the NBA stars.

What and idiot . . .

Your a moron.

Just look at the Spurs record without Duncan(1-4 this year and 4-5 last). Although there are not many games to take a sample from I expect the below .500 trend to continue without Duncan.

They are not a 50 win team without him. They are not even a .500 team.

The record shows how good and dominant that Duncan is and how poorly the rest of the team really is and what a poor job Pop/RC have done (with trades and free agency) in building around a franchise player.

[rascal]

R Wallace was another missed trade the spurs should have pulled off last year.


He would be nice now on the team.

[smeagol]

Your a moron.

Just look at the Spurs record without Duncan(1-4 this year and 4-5 last). Although there are not many games to take a sample from I expect the below .500 trend to continue without Duncan.

They are not a 50 win team without him. They are not even a .500 team.

The record shows how good and dominant that Duncan is and how poorly the rest of the team really is and what a poor job Pop/RC have done (with trades and free agency) in building around a franchise player.
rascal, you imbecile. Read my post. I'm saying that if they loose Duncan they get a decent big in return, i.e., T Chandler. Of course, if the Spurs loose Duncan and get NOTHING in return then you might be right. But then again, how many teams that don't have a decent big man are above .500.

Look at the Lakers, for Christ sake! They have your golden boy Kobe, for whom I'm sure you would give your right testicle to see him wearing the silver and black. Look at their record, you idiot.

Look at the Nets with the other player that gives you and Sequ a hard on. They are another .500 team.

So what is your point, you retarded, annoying, sack of shit.

And why don't you answer Nikos' questions?

You are pathetic.

[ALVAREZ6]

Rascal left due to being owned.

[SequSpur]

Fact: Spurs suck without Duncan
Fact: Hedo and Barry can't play in Pop's system.
Fact: Spurs show constant poor execution.
Fact: Parker can't shoot. He is better inside.
Fact: Manu is not an allstar, he's a fluke.
Fact: Pop knows one play. Give it to Duncan and pray.

[3rdCoast]

Fact: Spurs suck without Duncan
Fact: Hedo and Barry can't play in Pop's system.
Fact: Spurs show constant poor execution.
Fact: Parker can't shoot. He is better inside.
Fact: Manu is not an allstar, he's a fluke.
Fact: Pop knows one play. Give it to Duncan and pray.

I agree with all, except Manu is the real deal

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Manu's not a fluke, Duncan is our best player, but i think manu is our best 4th Quarter guy.

[Gummi]

It's great how some Spur fans show their "true colors" now that we're having a small letdown. Pop can't coach and knows only one play (still he's among the top 10 all time), Parker can't shoot (he's shooting 49%), Manu's a fluke even though he sometimes carries this team especially in the 4 quarters and makes huge shots for us. You're making great points, man.

SequSpur, like I said go find yourself another sport to follow cause you don't know anything about basketball.

[3rdCoast]

I never liked Pop. I always was a big advocate of Bob Hill, hell, I even loved Brian Hill when he coached the Magic. I think Duncan is amazing and to think the Spurs can continue winning without missing a beat with him out falls into the eat my ass catagory. Spurs will be fine, just chill.

[fonzy16]

Fact: Spurs suck without Duncan
Fact: Hedo and Barry can't play in Pop's system.
Fact: Spurs show constant poor execution.
Fact: Parker can't shoot. He is better inside.
Fact: Manu is not an allstar, he's a fluke.
Fact: Pop knows one play. Give it to Duncan and pray.


wow, nothing about rasho? thats new.

[rascal]

rascal,
So what is your point, .


Think a little for once. You add another 20 point reliable scorer with DUNCAN and the spurs are better than a bunch of role players and inconsistent over rated players who don't have the consistent stats that true all stars have.

Two 20 point scorers doesn't guarantee a championship but add another one with Duncan and the spurs are better. The clippers and GS don't have any player as good as Duncan to answer Nikos dumb ?.

There has been alot of big name star quality player movement the last couple of years and the spurs only manage to get Barry, Rasho, Horry Hedo ect. And many of them have been traded for not equal talent in return and the spurs always settle for role players.

Now Duncan is out and the true talent level of the team comes out.

[FromWayDowntown]

Fine, they need another all-star. Who exactly would you give up to get said star? You basically have two tradeable commodities not named Tim and a few contracts that can be used as filler. Go back to the beginning of this season and structure a reasonable deal (keeping in mind contractual constraints and cap space, of course) to get Vince Carter (who's next big-time performance in a big game will be his first) or Antoine Walker or Rasheed Wallace, or whoever else you think the Spurs should have acquired.

If you can't bring a plausible solution, you're just bitching.

[Nikos]

Two 20 point scorers doesn't guarantee a championship but add another one with Duncan and the spurs are better. The clippers and GS don't have any player as good as Duncan to answer Nikos dumb ?.

Dumb question? Well you act as though Parker and Ginobili are not worthy compliments because they don't score 20ppg consistently without Tim. But what you fail to realize is that 20 pt scorers by themselves with reasonable role players are also lottery bound teams. You simply dismiss the Spurs backcourt as being mediocre because they cannot score 20ppg for this team.

My point rascal: Not all 20pt scorers are efficient and as good as the basic stats show. Some guys score 20pts on 17 shots, and thus would not benefit the Spurs anymore than the current backcourt.

If we are talking about McGrady, Ray Allen, or Vince Carter then maybe its a different story if Carter stayed healthy and melded himself in unselfishly.

But your love for any random black 20pt scorer is senseless. Jason Richardson and/or Maggette taking place of Parker and Ginobili would not benefit the team anymore just because they can score 20 meaningless points on poor teams. You have no basis for thinking their presense would even make the Spurs any better if you replace a 20pt scorer on a horrible team for Parker and or Ginobili.

Duncan+Richardson and three mediocre role players is no better than what the team has now. Ditto for Maggette+Duncan and what the team has now (minus our backcourt).

I just don't understand your hard on for just any 20pt scorer.

The Spurs have two 16pt scorers doing it efficiently. Heck Duncan isn't even getting major minutes, and team has a 10ppg winning differential.

Honestly who cares if they lose a few games without Duncan. You think the Heat are any better without Shaq? They would not do crap out West either.

Open your eyes and recognize the Spurs are not owed a championship, and Duncan +any random 20pt scorer does not automatically yield a title. Realize that this team does have solid supporting talent. It isn't perfect, but neither was the support for a lot of star players over the years (Drob, Hakeem).

Even when Shaq had solid talent around him, he lost badly in several playoff series. Until he got Kobe Bryant (who is a top 5-6 player in the league, not JUST a 20pt scorer, but a HOF talent.) Jason Richardson, Maggette, Sprewell etc... are not and were not hall of fame talents. So don't be so quick to assume Duncan + lottery bound 20pt scorer/leader of a team wins a title.

[DuncanMVP]

Fact: Spurs suck without Duncan
Fact: Hedo and Barry can't play in Pop's system.
Fact: Spurs show constant poor execution.
Fact: Parker can't shoot. He is better inside.
Fact: Manu is not an allstar, he's a fluke.
Fact: Pop knows one play. Give it to Duncan and pray.

yes
no
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no
yes

[ALVAREZ6]

Rascal you're not considering everything dude.

Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker are both capable of averaging 20 points per game. The reason they don't is the Spurs have a lot of offensive weapons that come off the bench. It's hard to have a lot of big scorers on one team, it doesn't always work. You are overrating the idea of adding a 20 point scorer...WTF does a player that averages 20 points bring? The Spurs average the points as a team.
Think about it, if you have a bunch of options on an offense, not every player is going to average 20 points. The Spurs as a team are fine offensively, so bringing another "20 point scorer" would just take away from other players' points, and you would have to trade either Manu or Tony, and why? Tony is a great PG that is learning as he gets older, and Manu is a good SG that plays good defense.

"Don't carry all of your eggs in one basket."
What that means is if you split your points up over more players, then as a team you will be more consistent.

If you just have two 20 point scores, then if one of the players is injured, or is having an off night, your team struggles. The team would be less consistent.

[ALVAREZ6]

yes
no
yes
no
yes
You're wrong on pretty much everything dude.

[GrandeDavid]

I don`t recall Pop missing any of those shots or throwing the ball away a ridiculous 13 times in the second half. If anything, I think Pop is gonna help this team starting tonight. I`m expecting more defensive focus and more movement on offense against Indiana. While I was pretty much disgusted by the Spurs` performace against New York, I`m willing to chalk it up to the playing without Tim learning curve. Time will tell if I am right, but I think that the Spurs will more than hold their own while Tim is out.

Finally, before I called out Pop, I`d call out Tony Parker from disappearing after the first quarter for whatever reason.

[GrandeDavid]

Nikos, great argument and I agree with you!

[iminlakerland]

Pop is one of the better coaches in the league. For spur fans to complain about a coach who has done very well for the team is amazing. How can you honestly blame the few losses lately solely on Pop. You have your team superstar one of the leagues great players out with an injury, you have tony parker and manu ginobili coming off of injuries. These are all recipes for disaster, injuries happen but a team who has depth can succeed through it.

What many of you fail to realize these injuries can be a blessing in disguise. It is allowing players who usually do not get as much PT to actually have time out on the court. It also gives TD the opportunity to rest up for the playoffs. Hoping that TD's ankle heals quickly and dosnt give him any more problems, this team should be fine.

Regardless the spurs are still at the top of my list to go all the way. Sequ stop your pussy rants.

[T Park]

Bob Hill lol, that shows the intelligence of that poster.

He was so great Sean Elliott and the other players came to Pop saying "If you dont fire him, we will go public and get him fired"

Bob Hill was a defensive blunder.


Funny how the one play and pray scheme to Duncan, is never brought up when guys like Ginobili, Devin, and Parker go off.

Guess the playbook is "ok" those nights.

But what the hell, Sequ Spur, Tx3rdcoast, all these great NBA experts no soooo much.


Oh wait, there critiqueing.

Lol what a joke.

[benjirh]

The record shows how good and dominant that Duncan is and how poorly the rest of the team really is and what a poor job Pop/RC have done (with trades and free agency) in building around a franchise player.

As hard as I tried to stay out of this completely ridiculous post I just couldn't do it. I am so shocked that Rascal and Sequ are not on dream job as the next ESPN nba analyst. They would win hands down. Yes Duncan is dominant and the spurs would be worse off if they didn't have him. Way to go way out on a limb. How about this revelation, the bulls would not have 6 rings without MJ. As far as Pop/RC doing a crappy job. Get serious. Ginobili was drafted in the 2nd round. Any true NBA expert raves about how great the organization has done at creating solid teams. Look at the record over the last . Consistently dominant, mostly because of Duncan, but also because he has a team around him. That is what you do with superstars, you build around them to compliment their strengths. Just because you have a star does not mean your team will consistently be dominant, ie. Minnesota. Get a clue and admit that you are just posting to increase your number and not add anything benificial.

[Ishta]

Pop is one of the better coaches in the league. For spur fans to complain about a coach who has done very well for the team is amazing. How can you honestly blame the few losses lately solely on Pop. You have your team superstar one of the leagues great players out with an injury, you have tony parker and manu ginobili coming off of injuries. These are all recipes for disaster, injuries happen but a team who has depth can succeed through it.

What many of you fail to realize these injuries can be a blessing in disguise. It is allowing players who usually do not get as much PT to actually have time out on the court. It also gives TD the opportunity to rest up for the playoffs. Hoping that TD's ankle heals quickly and dosnt give him any more problems, this team should be fine.

Regardless the spurs are still at the top of my list to go all the way. Sequ stop your pussy rants.

:wtf :wtf I can't believe I agree with a Laker fan... But in this case. He's right. The Spurs will be fine. Let Duncan have the time he needs to get better and have rest.. The rest will come.. The sky is not falling yet!

[wildbill2u]

Dominant teams don't have to have two superstars--but they DO have consistency. In case no one noticed the other night, all five of the Piston starters were in double figures. We seldom have that happy occurrence because the play of our role players is so erratic. The only stablitity on the Spurs is TD.

I'm not sure how we've been winning when on any given night Manu or TP or Bowen or Rasho simply don't show up in the stats. If Pop can figure out a way to win even a few games between now and the playoffs without TD, he will be a coaching genius.

[benjirh]

Dominant teams don't have to have two superstars--but they DO have consistency. In case no one noticed the other night, all five of the Piston starters were in double figures. We seldom have that happy occurrence because the play of our role players is so erratic. The only stablitity on the Spurs is TD.

I'm not sure how we've been winning when on any given night Manu or TP or Bowen or Rasho simply don't show up in the stats. If Pop can figure out a way to win even a few games between now and the playoffs without TD, he will be a coaching genius.

The Spurs and Pistons are different in that aspect. In order for the pistons to do well they need all 5 starters to perform well offensively. That is because they don't have an offensive leader. They know none of their guys will average 20-25 a night. The Spurs on the other hand can rely on TD being the offensive leader. Everything goes through him. The other guys are supposed to play their hardest and out of that one guy will usually have a good game. So when we win we usually have 2 guys performing at a high level. When the pistons win they usually have 3-4 guys perfoming at a solid level. But now that Duncan is down, the spurs need to play the same way. They need everyone to provide equally. I think it is possible, we just have to wait and see.

[rascal]

Add another loss to the spurs record without Duncan.

[ducks]

I wonder how many losses cavs have without james
heat without wade

[rascal]

Yes but some still believe the spurs win 50 games without Duncan and adding an inconsistent player like Chandler.