2009 All NBA Team

[DollarSlice]

NBA announced today the All NBA First Team of 2009. (http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/12/allnba.team.release/?cid=playoff1)

[bdictjames]

Is Tim Duncan now an official center?

I hope this doesn't come into the discussion of him being the greatest PF of all-time. Spurs need a 7 footer beside him this year.

EDIT: Oh, my bad. Duncan was considered a forward. 5 points behind Dirk, and Tim had more first place votes. :depressed

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the fact that gasoft, carmello, and parker even got first team votes is ridiculous

[Shank]

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[lefty]

Dirk and Howard instead of Duncan?

Fucking joke :lol

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Dirk and Howard instead of Duncan?

Fucking joke :lol

please die

[endrity]

Damn, I was sure Pierce was gonna be over Dirk in the 1st team. I am happy though. Dirk continues to prove he is one of the truly greats. I didn't think after 07 he would ever sniff the 1st team.

On yesteday's threats I had every other position predicted correctly, except that I had Joe Johnson over Melo. I thought he had a poor season due to the elbow injury, but I can understand. Pretty good for me.

[lefty]

please die



You first

[tomtom]

WTF Yao > Howard by a mile...

[DPG21920]

the fact that gasoft, carmello, and parker even got first team votes is ridiculous

Why is Parker ridiculous? Didn't his team finish ahead of Dirk's who got first team? Wasn't the Spurs team pretty badly hit with injury as well? Didn't TP carry the load for a large part of the season?

[JamStone]

I agree with all three teams, with the possible exception that one could argue while the individual stats don't necessarily back it up, Billups had a better season that Chris Paul. But I still essentially agree with the actual outcome.

[JK2]

lol @ Gaysol getting first team votes.:lol

[fevertrees]

Paul next season just needs to ballhog and score 27+ since that is ALL the league seems to care about now when it comes to awards....

[lefty]

Fuck, from now on, I'm gonna watch 80's and early 90's games exclusively

[adidas11]

Seems like a fairly legit setup.

All NBA teams are almost fully based on stats.

Although I'm very surprised that Duncan was listed as a forward. Didn't he line up as center for most of the season? And wasn't he considered as a center for the All defensive team?

[JamStone]

Paul next season just needs to ballhog and score 27+ since that is ALL the league seems to care about now when it comes to awards....


Since they only put two guards on the first team, who would you put Chris Paul ahead of, Kobe or Wade?

[adidas11]

Also nice to see Shaq make the All NBA team, at the age of 37. :)

[Obstructed_View]

Paul next season just needs to ballhog and score 27+ since that is ALL the league seems to care about now when it comes to awards....

Paul needs to play the entire season. The all star game seemed to get him going because he was great from there on. Not great enough to deserve first team.

[dirk4mvp]

Nice list. Dirk definitely deserved it. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

[duncan228]

Although I'm very surprised that Duncan was listed as a forward. Didn't he line up as center for most of the season? And wasn't he considered as a center for the All defensive team?

Duncan was a center for the All-Defensive team.

He's always listed as power forward on the Spurs game rosters, even though he does the jump and plays quite a bit of center.

[Spursfan092120]

Nice list. Dirk definitely deserved it. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.
The people who voted said otherwise..look at the list..Tim got more first place votes than Dirk..both at the Forward position. How the hell did Dirk get first team when he didn't get as many votes as Tim?

[dirk4mvp]

:cry :cry

[Muser]

When you're paired with Matt Bonner you're gonna be classed as a C.

Teams look fair, no complaints here.

[monoslyab1k]

Nice list. Dirk definitely deserved it. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

Dirk didn't deserve to come anywhere close to an all NBA team.

[duncan228]

I may be the biggest Duncan homer here and I have no problem with the list. Dirk earned it. Duncan started strong but the tendonosis, on top of his left knee already bothering him, really impacted him from February on. I'm fine with second team.

[Spursfan092120]

:fishing

[dirk4mvp]

Dirk didn't deserve to come anywhere close to an all NBA team.

:lol You got me for a second. Now kill yourself, Ghazi.

[Ghazi]

I agree with the list 100%. This is what I've been speculating for weeks now.

congrats to Dirk , I believe this is his 4th all-NBA 1st team (confirm anyone?).

Go Dirk :)

and go Mavs

[BlackSwordsMan]

4 rings> some stat no one will remember

[Spursfan092120]

I may be the biggest Duncan homer here and I have no problem with the list. Dirk earned it. Duncan started strong but the tendonosis, on top of his left knee already bothering him, really impacted him from February on. I'm fine with second team.
True..and I'm not saying Dirk didn't deserve it. I'm just wondering how he got it. He got less First Team votes than Tim, yet he got on the First Team somehow...I'm just wondering how it happened.

[Spursfan092120]

4 rings> some stat no one will remember
Yep...one trophy Dirk will never hold

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2005/06/23/pistons.spurs.game7.ap/tx.tim.duncan.mvp.getty.jpg

[JamStone]

Point system. Players get points for first team, second team, and third team votes. Duncan had more first place votes than Dirk. Dirk had more total points. They go by total points, not first place votes.

[Ghazi]

Dirk deserved it over Duncan.

[BlackSwordsMan]

remember when dirk won nba all star in 09? nah I remember lebron raping the shit out of kobe in the finals though

[monosylab1k]

http://www.granitegrok.com/pix/Al%20Gore.jpg

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Why is Parker ridiculous? Didn't his team finish ahead of Dirk's who got first team? Wasn't the Spurs team pretty badly hit with injury as well? Didn't TP carry the load for a large part of the season?

Voting for him over Wade, Kobe, CP3, or D-Will?

Give me a break.

[monosylab1k]

Dirk didn't deserve to come anywhere close to an all NBA team.

He deserved 2nd or 3rd team for sure. With injuries to guys like Garnett & Duncan, 1st team for Dirk isn't ridiculous.

If anything, it shows how good Dirk is, because this was easily his worst season since 03-04.

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He deserved 2nd or 3rd team for sure. With injuries to guys like Garnett & Duncan, 1st team for Dirk isn't ridiculous.

If anything, it shows how good Dirk is, because this was easily his worst season since 03-04.

You really think so? To me, it was one of Dirk's better years, especially considering how crappy his team was. And the fact that he came 4th in scoring (behind Wade, Lebron, and Kobe), playing half-assed for 9/10ths of the season.

[resistanze]

Sucks for CP3. 23/11 and not even All-NBA First team.

[Ghazi]

If you carry a team with Antoine mutha fuckin Wright in the starting lineup to 50 wins and a 2nd round playoff appearance you are a 1st team all NBA player.

[Ghazi]

I think it was Dirk's worst year since 03-04 as well. His free throw rate declined, his 3-PT shooting has vanished, and it seems he had way too many "dud games". He has been brilliant in the playoffs though, his best playoffs since the 05-06 title run.

Still the best PF in the game.

[Spursfan092120]

Voting for him over Wade, Kobe, CP3, or D-Will?

Give me a break.
I thought we were voting by how good of a season they had..not by name. There are some who would agree that Tony had better seasons overall than 3 out of 4 of those players due to the fact that he led the Spurs to a LOT of wins with mainly scrubs.

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I thought we were voting by how good of a season they had..not by name. There are some who would agree that Tony had better seasons overall than 3 out of 4 of those players due to the fact that he led the Spurs to a LOT of wins with mainly scrubs.

a better season than either Wade or Kobe?!?!?! GTFO homer

[Amaso]

How the fuck did DWill not make any of the teams?

[LEONARD]

Dirk > Duncan
CP3 > Parker

[samikeyp]

Dirk > Duncan
CP3 > Parker

Well, you're half right. :)

[DPG21920]

He did not have a better season than Kobe or Wade, but it was not that far off for you to be butt hurt that he got 1 vote. If someone takes injuries to a team, along with winning the toughest division in the NBA and weighs them heavily, you can easily see TP getting a vote.

[fevertrees]

Since they only put two guards on the first team, who would you put Chris Paul ahead of, Kobe or Wade?

Kobe but I am sure I will get blasted for saying it. There were just too many guards with great seasons this year, but Kobe got in 80% by media/name and 20% by performance.

[TDMVPDPOY]

its going to be a long fkn summer.....

fuck this shit...duncan missin out on 2 awards all nba and all defensive first team > 2nd team

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He did not have a better season than Kobe or Wade, but it was not that far off for you to be butt hurt that he got 1 vote. If someone takes injuries to a team, along with winning the toughest division in the NBA and weighs them heavily, you can easily see TP getting a vote.

It was a joke more than anything. The only one butthurt here is you, because I don't suck Parker's dick like you.

[DPG21920]

It was a joke more than anything. The only one butthurt here is you, because I don't suck Parker's dick like you.

???

[JamStone]

A healthy Duncan is still a better all around player than Dirk. But, at this point in his career, you can't ignore that Duncan will have a hard time staying 100% healthy for likely the rest of his career. That's why you almost have to take into consideration that Duncan will rarely be 100% healthy, especially towards the end of the season. That shifts the edge to Dirk, imo. Both are still great, great players. And, an 85% Duncan is still most likely a top 10 player in the league.

Tony Parker was very deserving of being on an all NBA team. But, I don't think it's arguable much at all that he had a better season than Wade, Paul, or Kobe. And, Duncan though not 100% still played 75 regular season games. That helps a lot. So while Tony had to carry a team of mainly scrubs, if you consider injuries, then so did Wade and Paul.

Tough breaks for Deron Williams and Joe Johnson. The guard positions saw a lot of players have great seasons this year.

[BRHornet45]

Paul needs to play the entire season. The all star game seemed to get him going because he was great from there on. Not great enough to deserve first team.

total bullshit you moron .... Paul was averaging 21 and 11.5 at the all star break and lead the league in steals and assist all year. WTF are you talking about??? LOL what a clueless fool.

[Ghazi]

Paul on 2nd team is the way it shouldbe IMO.

the team performance plays a role too. Its why KG was 1st team last year but wasnt on any team the year prior while in Minny. It's why Wade is on 1st team (15-67 to 43-39), it's why Kobe is on 1st team (65-17), it's why Dirk is 1st team (50-32 and 2nd round w/ Antoine fucking Wright in the starting 5).

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

IMO the voters did a great job this year. They kept faggot Nash and Amare StandandAdmire off the team where they belong.

[kamikazi_player]

Dirk a first team? LMAO!

[Hornets1]

I Didnt know Dwade was a PG. I think the 2nd team could take the 1st team

[dirk4mvp]

The 1st team would take a nasty hot dump on the 2nd team. Let's not be stupid just because your player ended up on the 2nd team.

[Ghazi]

1st team would face fuck the 2nd team.

The guards are superior
The forwards are superior
The center is superior

Where do people come up with this shit?!

[kamikazi_player]

First team is great, but I think Dirk is outta place there. maybe he can make himself look important by not going through kobe and lebrons way.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I Didnt know Dwade was a PG. I think the 2nd team could take the 1st team

Whoever Paul is guarding would drop 50.

[Ghazi]

First team is great, but I think Dirk is outta place there. maybe he can make himself look important by not going through kobe and lebrons way.


Huh?

[kamikazi_player]

if first team was facing the 2nd team, i really don't see Dirk getting the ball much that's all

[kamikazi_player]

i forgot to put an and*

[kamikazi_player]

First team is great, but I think Dirk is outta place there. maybe he can make himself look important and by not going through kobe and lebrons way.

[Hornets1]

1st team would face fuck the 2nd team.

The guards are superior
The forwards are superior
The center is superior

Where do people come up with this shit?!

Not the people who claim the mavs won the 06 title arrogant faggot. BBall is a team game. The 2nd team would mesh much better IMO. Maybe you should look up the 5 game series where the team oriented pistons ass-raped the star-studded lakers. Look up the all-star roster, under-acheiving yankees. Talent means nothing w/out team work in a TEAM sport.

[kamikazi_player]

Not the people who claim the mavs won the 06 title arrogant faggot. BBall is a team game. The 2nd team would mesh much better IMO. Maybe you should look up the 5 game series where the team oriented pistons ass-raped the star-studded lakers. Look up the all-star roster, under-acheiving yankees. Talent means nothing w/out team work in a TEAM sport.
No offense, but 1st team is way too dominant. And we really don't know if 2nd team has team chemistry lol. But guarding Kobe and Lebron at the same time? That's a nightmare.

[Hornets1]

Whoever Paul is guarding would drop 50.

:lol:lolMaybe you should check to see what happened last time paul guarded D-wade(paul stole the ball with 8 seconds left to seal the game). Dwade cried till he got ejected. Another arrogant, uneducated knock on the best point guard on the planet. :toast

[endrity]

A healthy Duncan is still a better all around player than Dirk. But, at this point in his career, you can't ignore that Duncan will have a hard time staying 100% healthy for likely the rest of his career. That's why you almost have to take into consideration that Duncan will rarely be 100% healthy, especially towards the end of the season. That shifts the edge to Dirk, imo. Both are still great, great players. And, an 85% Duncan is still most likely a top 10 player in the league.

Tony Parker was very deserving of being on an all NBA team. But, I don't think it's arguable much at all that he had a better season than Wade, Paul, or Kobe. And, Duncan though not 100% still played 75 regular season games. That helps a lot. So while Tony had to carry a team of mainly scrubs, if you consider injuries, then so did Wade and Paul.

Tough breaks for Deron Williams and Joe Johnson. The guard positions saw a lot of players have great seasons this year.

JamStone, I like arguing with you at time, but that is only because I think you are one of the smartest posters here. I couldn't have said the above better my self :toast

[monoslyab1k]

Dirk better enjoy his all-NBA 1st team this year because there's likely no more on the horizon. Not that he'll decline drastically, but I just have a weird feeling that the Anthony Randolph show is gonna kick off in a big way next year.

[BRHornet45]

sons Dirk has absolutely no business being on the 1st team ... that is a bigger joke than Paul not being on the 1st team. pathetic.

[Ghazi]

:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

[resistanze]

Dirk is only on the first team due to the position requirement. That said, he's the most deserving power forward. But he should really be on the second team.

I would've chosen CP3 over Kobe, team record means jackshit. Kobe was on the first team when he averaged 35PPG on that shitty 45 win Lakers team.

[BRHornet45]

I would've chosen CP3 over Kobe, team record means jackshit. Kobe was on the first team when he averaged 35PPG on that shitty 45 win Lakers team.


100% truth

[LakerHater]

Don't you havta at least play D to be on the 1st team!!????

Why would Dirk be All 1st team & Not Tim!!
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[dirk4mvp]

sons Dirk has absolutely no business being on the 1st team ... that is a bigger joke than Paul not being on the 1st team. pathetic.

Stop crying, white boy.

Lot of bitter faggots in this thread.

[dirk4mvp]

Don't you havta at least play D to be on the 1st team!!????

Why would Dirk be All 1st team & Not Tim!!
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Cuz he's better this year and more deserving. Suck on that shit.

[LakerHater]

Cuz he's better this year and more deserving. Suck on that shit.

Don't know if anyone agrees with either of those statements!!
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[Spursfan092120]

1st team would face fuck the 2nd team.

The guards are superior
The forwards are superior
The center is superior

Where do people come up with this shit?!
So...you're saying Dirk > Tim?

[dirk4mvp]

Don't know if anyone agrees with either of those statements!!
http://db.funformobile.com/images/smiles/funny.gif (javascript:emoticon('form_text',':-k'))

Obvious somebody did, hence him being selected to the 1st team and not Duncan.

lol using generic lmao icons

[dirk4mvp]

So...you're saying Dirk > Tim?

This year he was clearly better.

[Lars]

I am fine with the list other than Pierce and Shaq should be replaced with Jefferson and Durant. Dirk had a great year.

[Spursfan092120]

This year he was clearly better.
Clearly? Tim got 19 and 10 and over one block per game. Dirk got 25 and 8 and less than one block per game. Spurs won more games. I'm not sure that's exactly clear.

[dirk4mvp]

Duncan wasn't even the best player on his team this season, yet he should be on the 1st team over the 4th leading scorer in the league?

[Spursfan092120]

Duncan wasn't even the best player on his team this season, yet he should be on the 1st team over the 4th leading scorer in the league?
ok..who said Tim should be on the first team? I just asked how he wasn't on the first team when he got more first team votes than Dirk. I would assume that getting more first team votes would translate to being on the first team.

[LakerHater]

Duncan wasn't even the best player on his team this season, yet he should be on the 1st team over the 4th leading scorer in the league?

Dirk had better pieces, Spurs were a 2 man team!
Tim was also hurt, won division & averaged a Double/Double!

[dirk4mvp]

ok..who said Tim should be on the first team? I just asked how he wasn't on the first team when he got more first team votes than Dirk. I would assume that getting more first team votes would translate to being on the first team.


No.

[spursfan09]

This is just proof that an Injured Timmy is still >>>>>>>>>>>>> than 90 % of the rest of NBA.

No shame in losing a spot to Dirk, Tim was hurt.

[dirk4mvp]

Dirk had better pieces, Spurs were a 2 man team!
Tim was also hurt, won division & averaged a Double/Double!

Did Dirk have an all star on his side? Did Duncan?

[LakerHater]

Howard is a 3x All-Star..... Jus like _allas is '06 champs!

[Ghazi]

Did Duncan have the worst shooting guard in the league in his starting lineup?

[DPG21920]

Did Duncan have the worst shooting guard in the league in his starting lineup?

No but the worst SF and worst C.

[Brazil]

I'm fine with the list too.

Congrats to Dirk, CP3, Tim and

[Brazil]

Tp

[JK2]

Howard is a 3x All-Star..... Jus like _allas is '06 champs!If Dirk had Howard on his side then Duncan had Ginobili on his side. no excuses there.

[LakerHater]

If Dirk had Howard on his side then Duncan had Ginobili on his side. no excuses there.
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Manu only played 44 games & didn't even play in the playoffs!

[JK2]

the All NBA teams aren't based on the post season. how many games did Josh play? like 50? wow, that's a big difference right there.

[dirk4mvp]

Howard is a 3x All-Star..... Jus like _allas is '06 champs!
Way to not answer the question and throw out some tired 2003 smack all in one statement.

[Rapper]

God damn

F Dirk Nowitzki (Mavericks) 35 383

F Tim Duncan (Spurs) 39 378

[layupdrill]

A few players got snubbed..

[KSeal]

This years all NBA teams just go to show how much better the West is then the East, 11 of the 15 are from the WC. East is trash aside from LBJ and Wade.

[Rogue]

Dirk and Howard instead of Duncan?

Fucking joke :lol
Duncan lost to Dirk by only a hair, and he even got more 1st team votes than Dirk.

[KSeal]

If Duncan would just man up and list himself as what he is, a center, then I think he should have been first team as the center. But since he refuses to be known as a center because it hurts his legacy in NBA history then he deserves not to make the first team. Dirk belongs on first team over Duncan for the PF spot.

[endrity]

I would live with Duncan being in the first team in place of Dirk, the difference is split hair.


However, over at Lakersground.net, Laker homers are furious. They were sure Pau was gonna be 1st Team. They are sure he is way better than Dirk too. I just find it funny. If the Mavs would offer Dirk for Pau straight up, the same homers would carry Pau on their back to Dallas.

[Ghazi]

Gasol deserved 2nd team over Pierce IMO.

[KSeal]

I would live with Duncan being in the first team in place of Dirk, the difference is split hair.


However, over at Lakersground.net, Laker homers are furious. They were sure Pau was gonna be 1st Team. They are sure he is way better than Dirk too. I just find it funny. If the Mavs would offer Dirk for Pau straight up, the same homers would carry Pau on their back to Dallas.

:lmao I know they're SO retarded over there, no way in HELL does Pau deserve first or second, I think he got what he deserved in third team. But over Duncan? No way, Duncan had somewhat of a down year for him and was a little hobbled down the stretch but he still put up better numbers then Pau and is far better on the defensive end (who isn't..) They're just stupid homers that need to be ignored.

[Ghazi]

watch out guys. 21 faggots is viewing this thread and is sure to chime in with a post about how Pau is CLEARLY and INDISPUTABLY a better basketball player than Dirk.

[endrity]

Sorry to say this KSeal, there are some really nice and objective Laker fans in here, but the Laker fanbase more than anyone else has the biggest subjective bandwagoners out there. Maybe it's the history of success that attracts a crowd like that, I don't know, but there sure seem to be a lot of them.

[KSeal]

watch out guys. 21 faggots is viewing this thread and is sure to chime in with a post about how Pau is CLEARLY and INDISPUTABLY a better basketball player than Dirk.

Actually over on Lakersground he said that Pau did deserve third team, if that is the same 21 Blessings.

[KSeal]

Sorry to say this KSeal, there are some really nice and objective Laker fans in here, but the Laker fanbase more than anyone else has the biggest subjective bandwagoners out there. Maybe it's the history of success that attracts a crowd like that, I don't know, but there sure seem to be a lot of them.

Well it's not like I'm not a homer, I'm just not THAT bad of a homer. Pretty much all fans are homers on some level anyways so whatever. Well I've lived in LA my entire life and always root for my home town teams (even the Clippers :lol) so I'm not really sure why there are so many Laker fans that aren't from LA or have no connection to LA, their success is the main reason I guess. Rooting for teams you have no connection to whatsoever just because they are successful is pretty lame.