Who would you take on your team?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Sorry for all the recent polls, but I played poker with friends last night and we got in a huge argument over whether you would want Trevor Ariza or Mo Williams on your team. I said Ariza because of his ability to contribute in ways other than scoring and because of Mo Williams' inconsistency.

[monosylab1k]

Tigers love pepper. They hate cinnamon.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Tigers love pepper. They hate cinnamon.


huh?

[TampaDude]

Newspaper soaked in white vinegar makes an excellent glass cleaner.

[Thunder Dan]

to get grass stains out of white shorts You use a 1/4 cup of dish washer granules and 1/2 cup of Clorox, put in sink, put enough really hot water in to cover what you are going to soak--stir until the detergent dissolves, put your shorts in and let set a bit, dunk around, do not splash the water on your good clothes it will spot them. i do this with all stained kitchen towels and cloths and socks and undies, it takes it all out. Rinse at least twice and you should have snowy white again

[JamStone]

Tigers love pepper. They hate cinnamon.


How long have you been waiting to post that?

For the record, I found it underwhelming particularly because of all the hype it was getting. Wasn't bad, but not great either.

[BlackBellamy]

Ummm... a duckbill platypus lays eggs which hatch within ten days and their kids are as small as lima beans. It's all in my Wildlife Treasury!

[Thunder Dan]

If you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days you would have produced enough energy to heat a cup of coffee

[manufan10]

Ummm... a duckbill platypus lays eggs which hatch within ten days and their kids are as small as lima beans. It's all in my Wildlife Treasury!

http://www.iaapa.org/industry/funworld/2003/Aug03/Features/Legacy_of_Make-Believe/images/PlatypusFamily.gif

[manufan10]

If you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days you would have produced enough energy to heat a cup of coffee

But your throat would be too sore to drink it. :lol

[pauls931]

The Rex prefixes for AMD64 are 0x40-0x4F

[Muser]

You made a poll asking that?

[DPG21920]

This is a strange poll. It would depend on your team needs. I voted Ariza for the Spurs, but I do not feel Ariza is the more talented player overall. He fits better in SA all scenarios considered, but Mo is just as good if not better.

If you are looking at the best player, I take Mo, if you are looking at team needs it can be either and if you are looking at defense I take Ariza.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

This is a strange poll. It would depend on your team needs. I voted Ariza for the Spurs, but I do not feel Ariza is the more talented player overall. He fits better in SA all scenarios considered, but Mo is just as good if not better.

If you are looking at the best player, I take Mo, if you are looking at team needs it can be either and if you are looking at defense I take Ariza.


I like the defensive stopper who puts up better numbers in the playoffs and makes key plays for his team down the stretch over the defensive liability who chokes in the playoffs and makes dumb decisions.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If the Cavs had Ariza instead of Mo Williams, they get by Orlando.

[Muser]

If the Cavs had Ariza instead of Mo Williams, they get by Orlando.


How?

[Lakers999]

well if any of you are watching the parade.... he just stated that he is not going anywhere he will be back next year, "i grew up here, i played here, my family is here my friends are here los angeles is home to me and this is a dream come true"


so spurs fans.... look at mo williams to fill that void cas there is no way in hell you will get trevor ariza

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

How?


Lebron gets to guard Courtney Lee instead of Turkoglu, so he's expending less energy on defense and would have been better down the stretch on offense. We saw how well Ariza defended Turk in the finals.

Delonte West would be able to post Alston up at will and would defend him WAAAAAY better than Williams did.

idk why Cavs fans hate Gibson so much but he would get more PT and he has proven an ability to hit big shots in playoff games. The cavs would also have more lineup flexibility and overall better matchups. Ariza would also not force up nearly as many shots as Williams.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

well if any of you are watching the parade.... he just stated that he is not going anywhere he will be back next year, "i grew up here, i played here, my family is here my friends are here los angeles is home to me and this is a dream come true"


so spurs fans.... look at mo williams to fill that void cas there is no way in hell you will get trevor ariza


Spurs fans will tell you that means nothing. Stephen Jackson did the same thing in 2003 and bolted. His intention to stay in LA isn't proven until he turns down some ridiculous contract offered by a lesser team. I think he will stay, just sayin' nothing is for sure.

[Lakers999]

trevor ariza character is much better than stephen jackson.... jackson is a convicted felon LOL. i understand why you guys are still bitter.... if you guys still had jackson you would have repeated instead of this playoff inconsistency

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Back when Jackson was on the Spurs he wasn't a character issue. I think being with certain teammates on the Pacers made him crazy. Since he left Indiana he's been fine to the point where Nelson picked him as captain.

[Trainwreck2100]

not you fat jesus

[Trainwreck2100]

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[JamStone]

Of course nothing is for sure until the contract is signed. Even then, sometimes its not. Heck, Tim Duncan staying in San Antonio in 2000 instead of going to Orlando wasn't for sure either. But it's a very big likelihood Ariza stays in LA. I'm sure he said that with every intention of working out a deal to remain a Laker.

[Trainwreck2100]

Of course nothing is for sure until the contract is signed. Even then, sometimes its not. Heck, Tim Duncan staying in San Antonio in 2000 instead of going to Orlando wasn't for sure either.

Thank you Doc Rivers

[stretch]

Tigers love pepper. They hate cinnamon.

:lmao

It's a satchel. Indiana Jones has one.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Odom's a better player but Ariza is a must resign for them. They know that it's a recipe for disaster if they go back to closing games with Kobe at small forward and Sasha at SG.

Odom would be a huge loss but Ariza is more important.

[JamStone]

It would be putting a lot of faith and pressure on Andrew Bynum. I don't think there's a player in free agency that can replace what Odom brings at an MLE price. And I don't think the Lakers can find one in a realistic trade scenario either. To me, Odom is more important because he'd be tougher to replace.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It would be putting a lot of faith and pressure on Andrew Bynum. I don't think there's a player in free agency that can replace what Odom brings at an MLE price. And I don't think the Lakers can find one in a realistic trade scenario either. To me, Odom is more important because he'd be tougher to replace.

I completely agree he's tougher to replace, I'm just not sure whether or not they would need to replace him as much as they would need to replace Ariza. An improvement from Bynum would be able to replace his finishing ability (I didn't know he was nearly this good a finisher at the rim until I watched the playoffs), but Odom's point-forward ability is what they would really miss. If Ariza ever developed the point-forward ability Odom has then Bryant-Ariza becomes a weaker (but still amazing) version of Jordan-Pippen.

So yeah, basically Bynum and Ariza would need to improve a decent amount to replace Odom (and Bynum would need to stay healthy), and they'd need to pickup a proven veteran big man.

[JamStone]

Agree with that for the most part. I do think Odom proved his value in these playoffs. He can be inconsistent and sometimes too passive. But when he brought his A game, the Lakers were a different team. He actually played up to his talent at times this post season.

[21_Blessings]

It would be putting a lot of faith and pressure on Andrew Bynum. I don't think there's a player in free agency that can replace what Odom brings at an MLE price. And I don't think the Lakers can find one in a realistic trade scenario either. To me, Odom is more important because he'd be tougher to replace.

Odom's skillset is to tougher replace but his true value to the Lakers doesn't utilize Lamar's skillset. What he brings that the Lakers value most is rebounding. And that can be replaced through the MLE much easier (and cheaper) than a 23 year old slasher that has the ability to guard the other team's best player every night.

And the fact that Odom is turning 30 and is notoriously inconsistent makes it a no brainer.