How do I get better at COD 4? [Archive]

balli

06-23-2009, 04:04 PM

The number 1 thing that's going to help you is familiarity with the maps. Until you get to a point where you know every nook and cranny, dudes are going to have a sizable advantage on you. To mitigate this, I'd suggest you stay on the move. Every time you stop and camp in what looks to be a safe spot, you become a target for people who see you on UAV and/or guess where you are. Be smart about it. Think about what your team is doing. Use them or don't, but have a clear strategy about how you want approach each game. Decide if you want to flank the battle, hang back with claymores or charge right up the middle, but be quick and decisive. Adjust your classes accordingly. I know it really hurts to give up stopping power as a perk, but if you're on a lot of bad teams and you're hearing a lot of, "enemy UAV is airborne," it might be beneficial to throw on the UAV jammer.

The only guns you should use until you're pretty decent are the MP5, AK47, M4, M16 and if you snipe the M40 with stopping power. The M16 is probably the most user friendly gun in the game. Three shot burst, if you sink all three with stopping power equipped, you get a kill. Perks and attachments will come fast, just figure out which guns you like most and stick to their strengths. The iron sights on both the MP5 and AK are user friendly, more powerful and you'll just get better if you use them.

If you bring up your sights in semi close quarters, start firing from the hip, so you're squeezing the right trigger ahead of the left. Especially with the SMG's.

If you're going to snipe use claymores. Eventually you'll get to a point where more often than not you'll know when somebody's coming, but you can't do that now, so hold off on sniping until you have claymores to back you up. Go to buildings with only one or two entrances and set em' up at each. You'll get a lot of kills or you'll know when somebody's coming. Snipers kill snipers all the time. So again, I'd stick to moving with automatic weapons until you know exactly where each potential sniping spot relates to the rest of the map. Don't waste your time running around with a sniper rifle or no scoping. Unless you're in a way open sightline, use your .45 when you're on the move. If you have a chance always swap your pistol out for something better. Eventually sniping will make you powerful. Once you can snap scope fuckers you drop one shot kills fast as lightning. At some point, get good at that shit, but not now.

People say free for all is the most chaotic. I disagree. Free for All is really good for honing your skills. Instead of getting into firefights against whole squads it allows a better chance to stalk and kill individual opponents. Not to say that you won't get blindsided or overwhelmed (a lot), but there'll be many more 1 vs. 1 battles in a FFA lobby. And many less instances where you spawn or turn a corner and a whole team starts popping you. I think you'd have a hard time excelling in FFA. Most often there are a couple guys at the top with 20+ kills and everyone else comes in all lowly, especially on smaller maps... but you wouldn't be facing a wall of bullets, all the time, like in TDM. Might be worth considering until you get a good feel for the maps and guns.

resistanze

06-23-2009, 04:30 PM

Level up :lol

Seriously, take balli's advice. I'm sure CH has some good tips too.

z0sa

06-23-2009, 04:33 PM

don't try sniping because you suck. get good with assault weapons like the MP5, m16 and AK-47 and by good, I mean completely get every challenge for them.

But aiming is only half the battle. Get to know the maps and predict your enemies' movement - this is what any FPS is about. Once you have an idea of where an enemy is going, always go in behind them RIGHT NOW. fullspeed flanking (as fast as you can without alerting the entire enemy army) is the only type that works well in CoD and the best FPS. if the enemy starts respawning behind you, retrace your steps and reflank what you just came from. If they spawn close or on top of you, more will be too as it spawns people close to living players if possible, so make a quick decision to push into a safe area that used to be enemy territory and now isn't, or to withdraw, depending upon your exact situation (just takes time to learn - go with your natural instinct as its probably best).

Use your nades. I don't know how many noobies I've seen, on every FPS that has em, completely ignore the fact they have shit tons of grenades at their disposal. Nades, and how you use them, separate great players from great shooters.

Remember to use your team as well. If you have rather stupid teammates who are just running face first into death over and over, go ahead and "bait" them by letting them go first while you trail behind to kill the enemies who undoubtedly kill them (while backing them up of course, straight baiting and camping won't get you kills). In this same way, you can 'leach' on to better players and learn some of their moves. You can do this ingame by pressing the 'select' button and looking for the best KDR - kill-death ratio. Find some who's at least 1:1 ie 12 kills, 12 deaths, and back them up while you get better. Do this every server you can (sometimes your team just gets raped, we all go through it) and you'll find you like having a good teammates.

Tying in with using your team is the radar, your most important tool. Anytime you have recon, keep your eyes glued to the radar on every scan for enemies. Once you get to know the maps, you can predict enemy movements and positions accurately if you simply use your radar to its fullest use. Even when you don't have recon only the map, you should be using your radar all the time anyway because it always shows your teammates and where enemies fired from for a few short seconds after they do so. Using these two together, even without radar you can figure out where enemies are located/attacking right now by judging the amount of kills/deaths you're teammates are enduring and how they're positioned, along with the icons indicating the enemies are firing their weapons.

And honestly, practice. I'd personally get the new CoD if you really want to get good for MW2. Nazi Zombies is basically an aim mode with survival/advancement worked in.

I would like to say this: you say you're getting pissed because you're not getting the 'easy' kills. Hey man, they're only easy when you've done it a billion times. Easy for me doesn't mean easy for you. Just worry about improving and those easy kills will be just that.

Cry Havoc

06-23-2009, 05:36 PM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this before: Use headphones. And I don't mean the cheap $2 skullcandies you see at Walmart. If you're serious about fragging, get some absolutely fantastic headphones. I rock the Ultrasone HFI 780s that are in my avatar. And I cannot BEGIN to tell you what a difference headphones (good ones) make. Don't listen to the gamers who feed on marketing hype, and will all tell you to buy Barracuda's or "x" gaming headphone. Gaming headphones SUCK for gaming. They're all about bass and making explosions feel like you're in a Hollywood movie. That's great for being cool, but you want ACCURATE sound.

I can listen to ONE footstep from someone and know exactly how far away they are because of the direction (right or left) map (where CAN a person be in this position) and proximity (how close they are). The last quality is the one that will distinguish a set of good cans from ground-pounders (headphones that are heavy on bass and little else). For a starter, I can recommend the Sennheiser HD280s as fantastic headphones for the money, and as a bonus they'll sound great when listening to music as well. Some people may try to dissuade you from good headphones, but if you can hear someone coming before they even know you're there, you have a huge advantage on them. At least 2-3 times per session when I'm playing CoD4, my headphones let me know where someone is that I normally would not be able to hear. As a result, I can recount exactly two times I have been knifed in the past month while playing on my competitive clan server. I can hear people who are walking with dead silence on, and that's a huge advantage.

Secondly, I have to agree with "learning the maps". Just like in a racing game, you aren't going to be competitive until you know about the little bump in turn three that will send you into a spin if you so much as graze it. CoD4 maps are pretty tightly constricted -- they are tiny by larger FPS standards. This means that sniping is a skill that must be honed after everything else is at a peak level. You can't sit in a spot and pick off unsuspecting players, not only will you likely get shot before this happens, but your tracer rounds will give any good player an instant kill. Learn the maps. Run around them. Find the places that are best to set up in. Usually if I'm looking to get a few kills, I stay put for 15-20 seconds in one place, then move. Otherwise, you're too easy a target for a grenade or a sniper.

When I was learning CoD4, I found the M4 to be the best weapon while learning the maps. It's got decent power, can fire close or long range, and is extremely accurate. And that's the real key. Finding accuracy. All the tools and knowledge in the world won't help you if the other guy gets his sights on you first. Learn to make the motion of your gun like breathing. If you're using a mouse, get a good mouse to get precise motion down. If you're on a controller, I find that higher sensitivity may suck at first, but can be extremely useful for quick reactions when you get used to it. Either way, you HAVE TO practice accuracy and aiming. Spraying bullets to get kills will NEVER make you a better player. One extremely well placed shot is worth more than 10 kills gained by emptying your clip, waiting for luck to take effect. When you learn to start aiming instead of spraying, you'll eventually learn exactly how to put your sights on the other player's upper torso and head. And then the kills will come. But just like anything else in life, you have to do it thousands of times, minimum. Think of it like the touch on a jumpshot -- you've got to keep it up, repeatedly, perhaps even for years before you really can "feel" the shot. The same time of touch applies to CoD4, if it's just a little more focused on the movement of your fingers rather than a whole-body motion. Keep in mind that some of these jerks (myself included) have been playing FPS games for years, so they have all that practice as a head-start.

Thunder Dan

06-23-2009, 06:07 PM

Cry Havoc

06-23-2009, 06:09 PM

E20

06-23-2009, 06:25 PM

Start using Bots.

resistanze

06-23-2009, 08:36 PM

Some good advice in this thread :tu

I'm gonna fire this game for the first time in a couple of months, wanna see if I still got it.

Slydragon

06-23-2009, 09:13 PM

z0sa

06-24-2009, 12:24 AM

I say try playing Headquarters because unlike deathmatch you have to move around to the random spot to take over the HQ so everyone will be going there which means less campers/snipers.

Sometime the HQ is in the wide open so you can get plenty of kills there.

Yeah, agreed. That was something I didn't touch on - explore the bevy of game modes! By trying new objectives, you develop more constant memories of the maps themselves while improving your feel for the flow of the game. After nonstop fighting in some modes, you might find yourself a little better prepared for the slower, more methodical killing found in TDM.

z0sa

06-24-2009, 12:30 AM

Just curious, are you on a console or a PC?

i'm 99% sure he's on a PS3 considering we argued over whether he should get 4 or WaW for it :D

that's why I don't think he been using head phones. If I'm playing PC games, I gotta have 'em. For my CoD 4/WaW fix on 360, I just turn the speakers up :tu

z0sa

06-24-2009, 12:45 AM

alright, thanks for the tips so far. How do I use the radar?

It takes practice and having a decent mental image of the map in your head, but you can always use it like I described earlier. However, the actual recon occurs when you or one of your teammates gets 3 kills in a row. It gives you a recon plane which sends random sweeps (probably 10-15 over 30 seconds) over the whole map. Enemies appear as red dots. You don't get to see them moving per se, but every sweep if carefully monitored will give you decent information.

Whenever I look at it I only see my guys, how can I see where the enemies are?

Every sweep, the long line running across your radar when your team gets a recon plane, will reveal any enemies not using radar jamming (most don't) for a second. Wait 5 seconds every recon plane and get an idea of where the enemies are located and where you think they might be headed.

The game's announcer voice alerts you to both friendly and enemy recon planes, airstrikes, and helicopters. Keep an ear open for whenever you hear any of these things announced, because you can use them to your advantage like everything else:

1) When your team has a recon plane going, attack. You know exactly where the enemy is, flank them or wait to meet them head on if you can tell they're rushing your position - they probably don't know you're there unless you've been shooting wildly or they got a recon plane themselves.

2)If you're flanking and hear the enemy has a recon plane, I usually fake one way (go 5-6 steps down a certain path so I show up on their sweeps in one position) then start halling ass the opposite way straight to the carnage. Don't let them isolate you now that they know where you're at.

3)Anytime you hear airstrike, get under something. :D

4) Ditto with helicopters. They move around the map obviously, so try and stick to the walls directly underneathe them if you have to move around in the open.

and I can't use C4 right now becuase I'm only a corporal or something

forget c4, it can be used but not nearly effectively as a claymore. Try replacing that with 3x special grenades to hone your nading skills. Try to use all your nades every round and get at least one kill for every death and you'll be well on your way to greatness :tu see, that's the great part about CoD 4. It can be played a virtually infinite variety of different ways. Get into the game, constantly be checking your surroundings and radar, generally just stay alert. The kills will come so don't try too hard.

DarkReign

06-24-2009, 09:22 AM

Its been so long since Ive played COD4, but here goes...

Play a lot.

Know your maps.

Aim high. Hitting someone in the hips and stomach dont mean shit while he's shooting you in the face. You'll miss a lot at first, and it varies with what weapon youre using (the "climb" of auto fire), but really, you need to get used to aiming high. Blind fire only works in close quarters, by blind fire I mean no crosshairs/scope and hitting the target basically anywhere in the body.

Find different spots. For example, in that Hangar map (silos in the middle, jets to the north, buildings all around), hanging out in the buildings is not a good idea. Youre a fish in a barrel, especially if your dipshit teammates start following you in there. Under the trucks is better (but predictable), on top of the silo covers is best (obscured by the smoke/steam), but still predictable.

Best spot IMO, is in the corners. I have always been a corner player in FPS games. It guarantees that nobody can sneak up in blindspots, gives you a wide view of the area and puts you in a position to shoot incoming enemies busy fleeing from other firefights. Bad part is, anyone that knows youre there will just lay the area full of nades, flush you out and pick you off.

Thats why you rotate constantly, dont stay in one place. If you play with KillCam (dumb idea, btw), youre dead. If you do not (purity), youre good for maybe 3-4 kills before they figure where the fire is coming from.

So move move move!

You have to learn how to run-n-gun. Crouch often, every time you shoot (increased accuracy with none of the drawbacks of having to get up and down from prone).

Nades. Learn them....love them. They, IMO, are your greatest asset. Being accurate with them is optimal (obviously), but even lobbing a nade near or in a room with the enemy is good enough. It makes them move....fast. The faster you can get the "3 Grenades" upgrade, the better (for me anyway).

Im not familiar with the console versions of COD4, but on PC it has a "realism" setting (iirc) thats more realistic damage. 4-5 shots in the stomach, youre dead. 1-2 shots in the shoulders and above, youre dead. I prefer this version of play, fwiw.

Radar. Use it. Especially early in your COD4 lifetime where youre not nearly as good a player as the others. Knowledge of where the enemy is, combined with knowledge of the maps will go a looooong way to increasing your survivability.

I dont know if youve played many FPS games, but the approach to ALL of them is the same in the beginning.

1. Learn to aim, period. Every game is different, learn the nuances of the system, adjust your sensitivity accordingly.
2. Learn the maps. No brainer, there.
3. Learn to survive before you try to thrive. One must always assume when entering any new shooting game that everyone in the game is FAR better than you and been playing a LOT longer. An older game like COD4 is about as old a FPS as there is, with an ingrained player base of near pros. Youre going to get spanked and discouraged if you think youre just going to dive in and start running around the maps, down long corridors, poking your head through windows, standing in a building, etc.

You have to see the areas of the map that you survive the longest in, even if its only seconds/minutes. Stick to those, because it means two things. 1. Its not high traffic, youre noob, less people see you, the better at this point. 2. It gives you a chance to get comfortable with that portion of the map. Once comfortable, you'll relax and focus on the other important factors of the game (aiming, movement, entrances, exits and killzones).

I cant stress that aspect enough. Learn to survive in a new FPS before trying to thrive. Obviously, if you were a pro player at COD2, this shouldnt be the largest adjustment in the world (save for weapons and maps), so you can skip this phase more or less. But if youre a noob (sounds like you are), then its the only piece of advice I can give you that means shit.

Everyone plays differently. Some people are just incredible shots. They plain dont miss, thats a difficult curve to overcome. Some people are campers with an exit strategy (most campers dont have one, thus nades). Some people run wild into a firefight with guns blazing...theyre usually not very good but they can sometimes get very lucky. Some people snipe, some people creep up on you for the close kill (most dangerous people IMO...combine them with great accuracy and theyre top of the charts every game).

Learn to survive. The rest will come.

Cry Havoc

06-24-2009, 11:12 AM

Also, something that I had to learn that's mostly specific to CoD4, and it's one tip that I have died countless times before I realized what was going on....

Do NOT stick your gun out of a window. Using your gun from a window is great, and can be one of the easiest sources of kills in the game. HOWEVER, if you actually walk all the way up to the window (so you're pressed against the wall), and then aim at something, your gun is going to stick so far out that veteran players are going to shoot you before you even have a chance to look around.

If you're gonna peek out a window, get back a little bit. Several steps, in fact. Not only will this decrease your visibility dramatically, it also increases the angle of attack necessary to shoot you. Overall, you're a much more difficult target to see and therefore hit.

resistanze

06-24-2009, 12:34 PM

Also, once you get familiar with maps, it's always easier to play when you get off to a good start. Rushing at the beginning of maps to places you know the opponents are going to is an EASY way to get kills.

In Crossfire, I was almost guaranteed to get an airstrike within a minute into the map, just by getting to hotpots before anyone else.

The Gemini Method

06-24-2009, 12:45 PM

Cry Havoc

06-24-2009, 01:46 PM

The trick to the Cod4, WoW, or any FPS is patience. No matter how much info you take in, there is always going to be matches where you can't seem to get anything going. I've played many matches where I can go 35 and 5 and not have as much fun as going 5 and 10 and playing with a squad of friends.

No matter how much you play or hone your skills, there will always be someone better than you and so, when you've accepted the fact that this is after all, just a game--you will relax and enjoy it a bit more and it seems that makes the experience a whole lot better.

After all, its a game...that's it...you aren't going to get laid because of your prowess on Modern Warfare...

There is always going to be inadequacies when it comes to gameplay. I don't know how many times I've been killed by someone who wasn't even aiming at me. I don't know if the game has automatic compensation for lousy aim, but it just bugs the sh#t out of me when you have a sniper that's aiming 5 to 10 feet away from you and still manages to put one into your chest.

Also, the whole sniper patch really made it easy for people to be snipers. I personally loathe snipers in FPS because, well, what are you attempting to do? Join as a marksman for Special Ops or what?

and finally, about guns...

Yeah, you can go with the norm... M16, M4, AK47, MP5, RPD, or the P90 as your weapons of choice, but the truth is--find what fits you.

For me, my weapon of choice is a G3 with a red dot sight. It isn't the fastest gun, nor doesn't have the volumous capacity as light machine gun, but for medium and long range assaults, it takes 2 shots and if you're used to the weapon, you can pull the trigger rapidly and take out a cluster of opponents in a short amount of time.

Some good advice here.

I think the Ps3 is very different, because in my experience the console and PC versions play EXTREMELY independently of each other. Console CoD4 matches play so much more slowly, almost at a snails pace at times. But this allows you to navigate in areas that you can't on PC. If you expose yourself for a tenth of a second in a good PC match, you're toast.

That said, my favorite weapon is the G3. I use it in combination with claymores, UAV Jammer, and dead silence. I don't move a lot, but when I do I like being able to slip completely behind the enemy without being detected. It results in a lot of me vs. 4 guys with their backs to me situations, and I can usually get at least 3, perhaps all of them if they're unsuspecting. However, when I first started, the G3 was rough to use, as I didn't understand the flow of the maps or where a lot of hiding spots were, so I'd have a lot of people pop out at me close range with a fully automatic weapon.

The G3 is fantastic because it bridges the gap between sniping weapon and still affords you the flexibility and ease (not to mention the speed) of a regular sight.

Trainwreck2100

06-24-2009, 01:48 PM

alright, thanks for the tips so far. How do I use the radar? Whenever I look at it I only see my guys, how can I see where the enemies are? and I can't use C4 right now becuase I'm only a corporal or something

The red blips are the bad guys and will always show up when they fire unless they have a silencer, you are probably not using your radar enough. And C4 is default so you should be able to use it all the time

Thunder Dan

06-24-2009, 01:57 PM

just curious, are you on a console or a pc?

ps3

Thunder Dan

06-24-2009, 02:01 PM

thanks for the advice on here, it's all very good. I never knew how to use the radar and I worked on it last night and got my highest score of 8 kills and only 5 times getting killed. That's good for me. My problem is that once I see a enemy I need to shoot, I get too excited and start shooting and I miss him, while he just takes 1 shot and kills me.

sabar

06-24-2009, 02:02 PM

Practice on small servers, not huge nade spam fests

Aim at upper chest

Keep ping below 200

Don't snipe

That's it. Learning to aim is the difference between going 1 and 20 or going 26 and 11. Little things like looking behind you, learning when to sprint, using surround sound and so forth are for smaller gains when you get better. But to reverse your kill and death count, you need to learn to aim.

Something else to consider is whether you play aggressive or cautiously. An aggressive style plays faster but more reckless, getting kills/deaths that are close in line, like 22 and 19. A cautious person that doesn't fly around corners sprinting can get a great KDR like 22 and 3, but I find the slow play style boring.

Best thing CoD4 has is the death cam. Use it, love it, learn from it. See how you die and both try to prevent that situation from occuring and try to do what other people do. It takes a long time to ramp up from a noob to a competitive player. I just play casually now-a-days.

The Gemini Method

06-24-2009, 03:45 PM

Oh yeah, another thing is learn how your opponent plays. One thing that always gets people in trouble is martydom. Learn whom likes to use this perk and so when you do make an assault on the opponent who does, you can avoid becoming a victim of the martydom.

Teamwork is highly underutilized in the FPS. It is harder to take down a tandem or a party of 3 than it is to take down a lone wolf. Communication can be essential when dealing with say, clearing a building or attacking a certain area. I've put up 12 10 3 games (10 assists) and feel like I've contributed to a dominating victory. It also helps get more prolific shooters you may party play with off.

Just go out and get some practice between now and 11/10/09...

Cry Havoc

06-25-2009, 01:56 PM

Normally, I make it a point not to brag about anything I do, because I usually am humbled with a pretty average score by days end.

That said, this was just so ridiculous I had to post it. I achieved this at 1:30 pm today.

The worst part is, my team barely won the map, and I went 77 and 22 for the duration.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/whisperingstorm/bog.jpg

DarkReign

06-25-2009, 02:08 PM

Is that the server you suggested?

Good comp there?

If so, nice fucking score.

Thunder Dan

06-25-2009, 02:08 PM

I'm UncleFertrelli if you see me on there

Thunder Dan

06-25-2009, 02:09 PM

what does Ping mean?

DarkReign

06-25-2009, 02:43 PM

what does Ping mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping

Refers to network latency.

Cry Havoc

06-25-2009, 02:43 PM

Is that the server you suggested?

Good comp there?

If so, nice fucking score.

Yeah, that's the server.

It's a nice score, but the best players are on later in the day. These are by no means horrible players, but not the best. Still, the speed with which I got to 47 kills was kind of surprising.

z0sa

06-25-2009, 05:20 PM

What's the max score available on PC version, Havoc? On xbox live its 750 ONLY and I average 20-25 kills. We should team up one day on something common we both have on the same platform. Ever been in any leagues? From what it seems, I'd bet we'd have some killer strats and plenty of aiming to go with em. maybe some cs source, as I've read you played quite a bit of cs in your day.

there's nothing i want more than someone local who I could team up with and start another team (i'm assuming your in SA). I've been on sponsored (by lan center) teams and have advanced in multiple Counter-strike/call of duty leagues as to my info. I've mainly been a CS kinda guy and I just made the jump to source since I got a new PC less than 2 weeks ago. I'm a little rusty and newbie to the source engine, but I'm averaging about 2:1 thus far.

i'm not an incredibly fat, childish loser either, in case that matters, though i do smoke some pot.

Cry Havoc

06-25-2009, 05:46 PM

z0sa

06-25-2009, 05:53 PM

i was definitely meaning PC as I don't own a ps3, but if you're in illinois it really doesn't help me much.

we can still own some people in source if you want to.

DarkReign

06-25-2009, 07:19 PM

:lol

Actually I only play PC. I suck on consoles. And I'm from Illinois.

Same. I feel handicapped with a controller instead of mouse+keyboard.

resistanze

06-25-2009, 09:35 PM

I was a CS guy for 5 years. I never found the conversion from PC to console difficult.

z0sa

06-25-2009, 10:23 PM

Same. I feel handicapped with a controller instead of mouse+keyboard.

the mouse and keyboard definitely give you way more control. It's not just aiming and moving easier, it's all the other buttons placed conveniently close and easily remappable into something worthwhile. That said, nowadays the difference is not that huge IMO. The main problem with analog sticks is the extremes - moving targets at a distance, enemies within 5 feet, and small cracks to shoot through. It's just not sensitive enough to cover these areas, besides the fact an analog stick moves only so far while a mouse'll be above the keyboard and shit if you get surprised and need to turn quickly. In this same vein, you can use multiple fingers with a keyboard, while holding a controllers generally limits it to your thumbs and forefingers by design. I just don't see how could pull off certain moves with a controller that a keyboard and mouse lend themselves easily to.

In games like Oblivion though, the difference is negligible, and in many games, a controller is probably better. Fighting games, for instance.

z0sa

06-25-2009, 10:38 PM

what does Ping mean?

ping pong type idea. imagine hitting a ball to the server, and the server bouncing it back. The amount of time for the ball to complete this exchange is your ping.

For example, you round a corner at the exact same time someone else does on CoD 4. If you both see each other and shoot at each other's heads at the exact same time, who gets the kill? He will if he has the lower ping, because technically, he saw you first and shot first since he's pinging the server quicker than you are.

ping isn't that big a deal right now, but as you get better and better you'll want to look for lower pinging servers. It vastly affects how well you can shoot people and how much of an advantage you can get on them when in equal conditions. Example: you have two players of equal skill level spraying fullauto at each other with AK-47's. One player has a ping of 10 and the other has a ping of 110. 10 ping will undoubtedly get more shots - and hits - in during the same amount of time, regardless if both were shooting at eachother over the same stretch of time. It just takes more time for 110 ping's shots to actually happen.

Cry Havoc

06-26-2009, 11:01 AM

i was definitely meaning PC as I don't own a ps3, but if you're in illinois it really doesn't help me much.

we can still own some people in source if you want to.

:lol

You should also check out Global Hawks server. They run an open warfare mod of CoD4 that supplies new maps and new ranks (up to 75). The server is now running 60+ maps in a random order rotation and is currently ranked in the top 5% of CoD4 servers.

216 - 86 - 144 - 205

28930

Thunder Dan

06-26-2009, 03:21 PM

ping pong type idea. imagine hitting a ball to the server, and the server bouncing it back. The amount of time for the ball to complete this exchange is your ping.

For example, you round a corner at the exact same time someone else does on CoD 4. If you both see each other and shoot at each other's heads at the exact same time, who gets the kill? He will if he has the lower ping, because technically, he saw you first and shot first since he's pinging the server quicker than you are.

ping isn't that big a deal right now, but as you get better and better you'll want to look for lower pinging servers. It vastly affects how well you can shoot people and how much of an advantage you can get on them when in equal conditions. Example: you have two players of equal skill level spraying fullauto at each other with AK-47's. One player has a ping of 10 and the other has a ping of 110. 10 ping will undoubtedly get more shots - and hits - in during the same amount of time, regardless if both were shooting at eachother over the same stretch of time. It just takes more time for 110 ping's shots to actually happen.

that is waaaay too advanced to me. I'm a pretty basic kind of guy. It took me awhile to learn how to use both joysticks. I went the life of a PS2 without ever using a joystick on it.

DarkReign

06-26-2009, 05:27 PM

Guy with 110 ping will just lag through the autofire. Advantages vs disadvantages, IMO.

z0sa

06-28-2009, 01:45 PM

Guy with 110 ping will just lag through the autofire. Advantages vs disadvantages, IMO.

I disagree. 110 ping isn't awfully high, maybe UK player in a central USA server. Unless they are experiencing high packet loss (i believe), it'd be very odd for a 10 ping to not have 99% of his shots register regardless of who it is. They're just too close to the server. If 110 ping is moving in 10 foot bursts across the map, yeah okay but I dunno if I've ever seen someone with that low of ping have that kind of loss.

iggypop123

06-28-2009, 03:58 PM

try to join games that arent campfests. team deathmatch unfortunately has become everyone go to a snipe spot and the middle is deserted. i hate crossfire so much cause everyone just snipes. try domination and hope you have teamates determined to help not stay in the back and snipe. cook frags and when the russian dude says "losing bravo" spam B with grenades

balli

06-28-2009, 04:07 PM

i hate crossfire so much cause everyone just snipes... and hope you have teamates determined to help not stay in the back and snipe. cook frags and when the russian dude says "losing bravo" spam B with grenades
Crossfire is my favorite map. All I do is snipe on just about every map, so it's good to know that I'm pissing people off as much as I think I am. Also, I routinely, routinely, routinely lead my teams in kills, while using a sniper rifle, so if you ever see me on your team, best hope that I hang back to snipe the guys who are about to knife your back.

I love the CoD sniper hate. Because everybody knows its the hardest skillset to master, so even though its the most powerful way to play, people who can't do it, can't call it noobish.

In conclusion, sniping FTMFW!!!

resistanze

06-28-2009, 04:09 PM

Yeah i got no problem with sniping, it's a dimension of every FPS. I probably have less the 20 of my 350000+ kills with the sniper, though.

If you got a beef with a sniper, rush his ass and knife him or lob a grenade in his face.

iggypop123

06-28-2009, 04:12 PM

balli

06-28-2009, 04:40 PM

maybe its just me but some people would rather get kills in the back than help out and capture points. if all you want is kills play TD. if not then be ready to play well as a team.
It just depends on the gametype. The only time I play domination/headquarters are when they come up in Team Tac lobbys, and admittedly, with those gametypes, I could see having a lot of snipers on your team as being hugely disadvantageous. At the same time, having a really good sniper covering control points, is only going to make it easier for the run n' gunnners to do their job of capturing territory. So, I'd imagine there's times when it comes in handy and depending on the quality of sniper, times when it decidedly doesn't.

That said, I snipe my way through S&D games and collect just as many objective based points as anyone else does, if not more.

As long as I'm pontificating about sniping I just want to say this as well; if there's one thing I don't forgive in this game, it's losers rocking the m40 with an acog and steady aim. Every time I get shot or no-scoped by an acog sniper, I feel like ripping somebody's lungs out.

Marty is usually avoidable. Juggernauts get got by powerful guns. Noob-tubers have one shot before their slow, stupid, noob asses get lit the fuck up. But sometimes, there ain't shit you can do about some good as fuck player using the m40 acog and its plus 5 damage bonus. It's a bullshit, cheap, lame-ass tactic and anybody who uses it should be shot in the face a la reality.

resistanze

06-28-2009, 08:13 PM

As long as I'm pontificating about sniping I just want to say this as well; if there's one thing I don't forgive in this game, it's losers rocking the m40 with an acog and steady aim. Every time I get shot or no-scoped by an acog sniper, I feel like ripping somebody's lungs out.

Marty is usually avoidable. Juggernauts get got by powerful guns. Noob-tubers have one shot before their slow, stupid, noob asses get lit the fuck up. But sometimes, there ain't shit you can do about some good as fuck player using the m40 acog and its plus 5 damage bonus. It's a bullshit, cheap, lame-ass tactic and anybody who uses it should be shot in the face a la reality.
I almost forgot what you were talking about until I played tonight. Holy. Fuck. Skilless assholes.

iggypop123

06-28-2009, 10:04 PM

i do it without steady and and acog and its hilarious. if an m16 can kill in 1 shot this is my counter to those bastards who whore out the m16 m4, and p90

Trainwreck2100

06-28-2009, 11:36 PM

i only became a sniper to counter all the people who stay back and get them. i like to run and gun snipe not just stay in some tower in the back. maybe its just me but some people would rather get kills in the back than help out and capture points. if all you want is kills play TD. if not then be ready to play well as a team.
i must add hardcore headquarters on shipment is amazing. the only problem is having 2 min respawns due to the friendly fire

i don't snipe to counter snipers, i bust out the silenced weapons with the uav jammer, and wait for those bastard to pop my teammates cause you can use their dead location to determine which way hes looking and the snipers depend alot on the /radar

Trainwreck2100

06-28-2009, 11:43 PM

i do it without steady and and acog and its hilarious. if an m16 can kill in 1 shot this is my counter to those bastards who whore out the m16 m4, and p90

I hate all the p90 love i'll take the mp5 over that one any day

DarkReign

06-29-2009, 12:32 PM

I dont care what anyone uses. If its allowed on the server, its fine with me. If it becomes a problem, I leave.

Like the "Killhouse" or whatever...hate that, quit every time it comes up in rotation.

I juuuuust rebought the game this past weekend. Still only have the early guns (M16/M4) with dot sights and a noobtube. Oh well, Im extremely accurate with the tube, even at distance. I hope I am toobing snipers, tbh.

My favorite part of this game, and I kind of forgot about it, was sniping snipers with a G3. Damn that gun is accurate as hell. I need to make lvl24 to get it though.

Havoc,

Been playing on your suggested server. Im getting creamed because I dont know shit about the custom maps theyre using. Good time though, sucks I have to d/l a map every round change though.

ATRAIN

06-30-2009, 12:49 PM

Play headquarters, you will get better from that.

ATRAIN

06-30-2009, 12:50 PM

I hate all the p90 love i'll take the mp5 over that one any day

I wish the clip of the mp5 held more bullets and I would use it more.

LnGrrrR

06-30-2009, 03:54 PM

I'm glad that CoD4 isn't ridiculously sniper heavy. That's why I prefer it over the jumping snipers of Halo 3. Plus the hitbox detection always seems iffy on Halo 3. Rarely will I get killed in CoD4 and think it's total BS.

LnGrrrR

06-30-2009, 03:57 PM

Oh yeah, and I'm usually rolling with the P90, Double Tap and Extreme Conditioning. It's just fun to pump out bullets that fast.

iggypop123

07-02-2009, 11:22 PM

Oh yeah, and I'm usually rolling with the P90, Double Tap and Extreme Conditioning. It's just fun to pump out bullets that fast.

and never have to reload. thats a whored out gun. mp5 is second. only when its silenced. i go against the grain. everyone does m4 so i do g36. mp5,p90 so i do silenced uzi. the only thing i cant go against is the first sniper. barret is so horrible

jman3000

07-02-2009, 11:53 PM

My favorite part of this game, and I kind of forgot about it, was sniping snipers with a G3. Damn that gun is accurate as hell. I need to make lvl24 to get it though.

The G3 has been my favorite weapon in just about any game I've seen it in. Dating all the way back to Jagged Alliance 2 and more recently in the RS:V titles.

Trainwreck2100

07-02-2009, 11:53 PM

DarkReign

07-03-2009, 06:34 PM

The G3 has been my favorite weapon in just about any game I've seen it in. Dating all the way back to Jagged Alliance 2 and more recently in the RS:V titles.

Bam. Im a G3 user myself. Accurate, range and damage.

Thunder Dan

07-04-2009, 01:28 PM

I'm finally showing signs of progress.

I can't wait till I get better and the old school mode is an option. I hate having shitty guns and getting taken out by helicopters and stuff just because I suck. I like Old school because its more fair

xellos88330

07-04-2009, 02:58 PM

Memorize the maps and watch how your team moves. I learned how to play in Team Deathmatch. Almost every pug team moves the same way, and moves to the same spots. It will help you plan your opening route.

Once you have a decent idea on how players move through the maps, you will know what places are relatively safe. There are NO safe places. (except for maybe 1 that is really difficult for me to get to). If you are planning to snipe, you better be a damn good sniper. The maps aren't too sniper friendly and will definitely be difficult if you do not know the maps.

Make sure you are observant of your UAV at all times. If an enemy fires w/o a silencer, they will show up in your UAV mini map. Then you will have a general idea where the enemy is so you can make it harder to sneak behind you. Another useful tip is to watch the kill cam after you have been killed (helps out a shitload more once you memorize the maps) it gives you a pretty good idea how you were killed and where from.

Thats all I can think of atm.

iggypop123

07-05-2009, 11:21 PM

old school is horrible. its only used to do Michael Meyers some mini game people created in the style of the character. anyways play TD to death and learn maps as the person above said. then go to objective based games where your upgraded guns should help. all you really need in this game is a silenced mp5 or a red dot m4 and you can have that fast. then learn to cook frags and and anticipate people on the uav and in no time you will start getting 3 people with 1 frag

Cry Havoc

07-20-2009, 09:04 PM

I decided to bump this thread with more thoughts.

One of the bad things about playing on the stock maps is that they are so incredibly overplayed, it makes it very difficult to "set up" anywhere, because most players know all the camping spots by heart.

That said, I think there are some more guidelines to most FPSes that still apply here:

1. DON'T SPRINT. Well, let me rephrase this... don't sprint as much. Especially on the larger maps, sprinting not only compromises your ability to return fire, it draws the attention of any person who's higher than you with a view of the surroundings. There is a tendency to want to rush back into battle, particularly if you want to kill the person who just pegged you. However, especially in fast-paced games like CoD4 (as opposed to more tactical/strategic shooters like GRAW), the battle zone can quickly change. Where you ran to last time may now be an enemy hotspot and sprinting will give 2 or 3 enemies an open bead on you. To this extent, consistently using your iron/red dot sights allows you to move much more authoritatively and move with more confidence. As long as you are sure you won't get caught from behind, this is a huge positive.

2. On bigger, sniper prone maps like Bloc... be very cautious about movement in any case. Every time you move, you allow yourself to be spotted by snipers. Unless under good cover, very slow movements behind cover are extremely necessary.

3. Get high! The higher you are the more of the map you can see. However, once you get to a higher spot, do NOT move unless you're aiming at someone. Even shifting your line of vision back and forth makes you "pop out" to anyone looking at the general area, and they can shoot you instantly. Staying completely still and waiting to see motion, with patience, will almost always net a couple of kills unless you're already exposed. Claymores are great for covering your backside in these situations, and silencers allow you to be even harder to spot.

Cry Havoc

07-20-2009, 09:04 PM

double post.

spursfan1000

07-20-2009, 11:05 PM

Make it your Life and I bet you will turb good lol.

LnGrrrR

07-21-2009, 09:10 AM

Sprinting also sucks because it takes a second or two to pull up your gun from a sprint. I am impatient and sprint alot, and I get caught alot.

symple19

07-30-2009, 08:34 AM

PC is THE ONLY WAY to play an FPS.

z0sa

07-30-2009, 01:59 PM

PC is THE ONLY WAY to play an FPS.

pretty much, but CoD/Halo 3 are remarkably great on 360. MW2 won't be any different. The main differences are level of competition (always much higher on PC), forming/joining teams, and competing in Leagues. The last two are what I love most about PC games. Pwning other people with your team in a 5v5 competitively is like crack to me.

Cry Havoc

07-30-2009, 02:07 PM

pretty much, but CoD/Halo 3 are remarkably great on 360. MW2 won't be any different. The main differences are level of competition (always much higher on PC), forming/joining teams, and competing in Leagues. The last two are what I love most about PC games. Pwning other people with your team in a 5v5 competitively is like crack to me.

This. It's something that console fanboys will never appreciate. FPS games are good on console -- but they are spectacular on PC. In fact, I would say there are more top notch FPS games out in the past two years than any other genre. It's pretty golden right now.

Cry Havoc

08-03-2009, 11:18 PM

Gotta bump this thread. This occurred yesterday during primetime. Many good players on. The server wasn't full of CAL and pros, but not many slouches either. My team was getting hammered. I however, had a good start.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/whisperingstorm/Thirty.jpg

Ended up going something like 68 and 18 for the map. After I died, I got spawned into some firefights and my K:D went down a bit because of it.

resistanze

08-04-2009, 09:28 AM

Cry Havoc

08-04-2009, 12:23 PM

^ Ruthless.

Coincidentally, I was playing Crossfire in Domination last night. After dying once I went on a 27 kills streak before finally running out of ammo with my M16. I picked up a random sniper on the ground; if I wasn't shit at sniping I would've have 4 more kills. Instead I got killed after shooting 3 people in the leg :lol

Yeah, I literally ran out of ammo with both my rifle and my pistol. Very frustrating. Partly my fault though, as I missed several easy shots early on with my G3.

Still, if I would have had a few more magazines, I think I could have probably got another 10-15 kills.

z0sa

08-04-2009, 01:26 PM

Gotta bump this thread. This occurred yesterday during primetime. Many good players on. The server wasn't full of CAL and pros, but not many slouches either. My team was getting hammered. I however, had a good start.

Ended up going something like 68 and 18 for the map. After I died, I got spawned into some firefights and my K:D went down a bit because of it.

:lol attention wh0ring bitch. this is like the 4th time you've said this shit and posted screenies. Nobody gives a fuck about your pub scores. The competition sucks, period. Upload a DEMO of you owning while ringing in a 5v5 or something and you'll deserve a few minor props. Upload a DEMO of you beasting with your team on a league, instead of needlessly bumping a thread just so you can show off your pub score halfway through a random match :lol

Thunder Dan: How do I get better at cod 4?

Havoc: Check this screen I made halfway through the game! I just went 30-0 in a random pub with a bunch of newbies!

Cry Havoc

08-04-2009, 01:51 PM

this is like the 4th time you've said this shit and posted screenies.

If by "4th", you mean "2nd", then yeah, you're totally right. Learn to count and get back to me.

:lol attention wh0ring bitch. Nobody gives a fuck about your pub scores. The competition sucks, period. Upload a DEMO of you owning while ringing in a 5v5 or something and you'll deserve a few minor props. Upload a DEMO of you beasting with your team on a league, instead of needlessly bumping a thread just so you can show off your pub score halfway through a random match :lol

Thunder Dan: How do I get better at cod 4?

Havoc: Check this screen I made halfway through the game! I just went 30-0 in a random pub with a bunch of newbies!

:lol

Just a little jealous, are we?

By all means, if this server is full of noobs, come and play (by that I mean get your ass owned). Shouldn't be a problem for you to dominate if everyone on the server sucks, right? Of course you won't though, cause it's easier to talk a big game on the internet rather than actually having to do anything. You play the part of Mr. Internet Tough Guy pretty well.

Sounds like someone's still a little pissed off about getting destroyed in the music thread and then having to tuck tail and suck up to Kori after she called you out for being a moron. :lol

DarkReign

08-04-2009, 01:59 PM

I play on the server.

It is not n00b. Guys are sick there, especially because of the custom maps. No killcam, no nothing.

You could get killed by the same guy 15 times and never know where exactly he is. Its fun, but frustrating.

resistanze

08-04-2009, 02:01 PM

Sounds like someone's still a little pissed off about getting destroyed in the music thread and then having to tuck tail and suck up to Kori after she called you out for being a moron. :lol

:lmao

z0sa

08-04-2009, 02:05 PM

If by "4th", you mean "2nd", then yeah, you're totally right. Learn to count and get back to me.

lol pub score screenie

Just a little jealous, are we?

I've gotten better than that on a 360 controller :lmao difference is, you won't be seeing shots of my big screen anytime soon. I have dignity. I also don't need to show others I'm good. I just know it.

By all means, if this server is full of noobs, come and play (by that I mean get your ass owned).

:lmao that server is filled with newbs.

If I had it Shouldn't be a problem for you to dominate if everyone on the server sucks, right?

If I had cod 4 for the PC I'd have already played with you, saved your ass while you're on my team, owned you when you're not (i specialize in destroying g3's on bog), and destroyed every server you play at. That's judging solely off the fact I pwn all the time with a controller at that game, something you admittedly can't do.

Sounds like someone's still a little pissed off about getting destroyed in the music thread and then having to tuck tail and suck up to Kori after she called you out for being a moron. :lol

Translation: "I have no answers. z0sa > me."

First off, suck up to Kori? I didn't do jack shit like it. I kept my opinions the exact same. I even called her out for saying I imposed my preferences on anyone, and she didn't respond, instead going the "I ruined a good time" route.

Besides, I completely destroyed every response YOU gave me that thread.

z0sa

08-04-2009, 02:16 PM

:lmao

lol cod 4

DarkReign

08-04-2009, 02:20 PM

z0sa, I know you and CH dont jive (at all), but be realistic.

If youre as good as you say you are (I have no reason to doubt you), then play on the server.

Its as simple as that. Youre a well-to-do guy from what Ive gathered in other threads, $40 on Steam wouldnt break the bank on a killer game you own on a console that only allows 8v8.

Buy the game. Play online. Worst that can happen is youre right and wipe the floor with CH.

balli

08-04-2009, 02:22 PM

I thought it was cool. Post what you feel Havoc.

Zosa, why go out of your way to be such a little bitch all the time? You're being a contrarian and starting fights that don't need to be fought.

Oh and lol 3rd place (again). lol new map pack. lol 6 month blip on the radar.

z0sa

08-04-2009, 02:25 PM

I play on the server.

It is not n00b. Guys are sick there, especially because of the custom maps. No killcam, no nothing.

I've lived most of my life without a killcam. Custom maps are generally suck when it comes to balance, so that's actually more evidence against Havoc's score being anything worth noting.

Additionally, you being killed all the time does not classify the server as 'pro' or even 'noob.' It simply means your skill level and knowledge of the game is lower than the others playing there.

You could get killed by the same guy 15 times and never know where exactly he is. Its fun, but frustrating.

Cool story. Read above. Custom maps are "fun", and some perhaps even balanced, but if you want to outthink instead of randomly outgun your enemy, I'd stick with the guaranteed balance and design of official maps. Those unofficial ones are littered with 'gay' spots.

Greg Oden

08-04-2009, 02:37 PM

:wow I didn't know a game could cause such a bitch fight over who's better at it. Not even Street Fighter plays go this far.

I have a 77 K : D and you don't see me stroking my e-peen.

z0sa

08-04-2009, 02:41 PM

I thought it was cool. Post what you feel Havoc.

Yeah, makes sense you'd support him, since this is a thread for newbies, and the newbies would be extremely impressed with that score. Now you've got something to visualize when you're blowing hard and need some inspiration, huh?

The real (read: anyone with enough balls to show off) PC gamers throw out demos, not screenshots. Screens mean all of shit.

Zosa, why go out of your way to be such a little bitch all the time? You're being a contrarian and starting fights that don't need to be fought.

So you believe screenshots of badass scores belong in the newbie tips thread? That's not bitchmade or anything.

Oh and lol 3rd place (again). lol new map pack. lol 6 month blip on the radar.

LOL @6month "blip"

balli

08-04-2009, 02:44 PM

You're an idiot. And an asshole.

z0sa

08-04-2009, 02:48 PM

You're an idiot. And an asshole.

TRUTH:I'm a dick. You're a fanboy. Of course you don't like me.

resistanze

08-04-2009, 02:50 PM

lol cod 4

lol displaced anger
lol Pythagorean Theorem
lol zombies
lol Treyarch
lol Michael Phelps threw his copy in the garbage
LMAO waw

z0sa

08-04-2009, 02:54 PM

lol displaced anger
lol Pythagorean Theorem
lol zombies
lol Treyarch
lol Michael Phelps threw his copy in the garbage
LMAO waw

my 10 year old fifth grade brother talks better trash.

balli

08-04-2009, 02:54 PM

Of course you don't like me.
I don't like when people who routinely get owned in arguments, in an effort to try to save face, start more arguments and build up more and more grudges. With more and more petty rational for doing so.

It doesn't have anything to do with mw, waw or the CoD brand in general.

As far as I (and probably the powers that be) are concerned, people can post whatever they fucking feel like in this thread. You think anybody gives a fuck about some CoD thread in the geek zone? Shit, I'll come in here and post a recipe for fucking meatloaf and you shouldn't say a damn thing about it. Becuase that's not your role- so slow it. Get over the many things you're so butt-hurt about... and quit being such an insecure asshole towards people.

resistanze

08-04-2009, 02:56 PM

my 10 year old fifth grade brother talks better trash.

Do you angrily follow him around the house several days after he owns you?

z0sa

08-04-2009, 03:10 PM

I don't like people who routinely get owned in arguments, so in an effort to try to save face, they start more arguments and build up more and more grudges.

Save whose face? My anonymous nickname's face?

It doesn't have anything to do with mw, waw or the CoD brand in general.

Yeah. fucking. right. You haven't liked me ever since then, even though I apologized for something or another.

As far as I (and probably the powers that be) are concerned, people can post whatever they fucking feel like in this thread.

Then why the fuck are you giving me shit for being a dick to Havoc? According to you, people can post whatever they fucking feel like. Oh, let's go further though:

Shit, I'll come in here and post a recipe for fucking meatloaf and you shouldn't say a damn thing about it.

Hypocrite :lol and

Apples to oranges. If this was the "tips for making meat loaf" thread, things would be different. It's not. It's the newbie tip thread, and according to me, only an attention seeking whore posts their high score here.

Becuase that's not your role- so slow it.

Why don't you slow down on the advice giving?

Get over the many things you're so butt-hurt about... and quit being an asshole to people.

Noted.

z0sa

08-04-2009, 03:11 PM

Do you angrily follow him around the house several days after he owns you?

That's what you'd be doing, since you followed me through multiple threads now with this waw shit. I know you think your opinion > mine, its not. I know you also think that if many share your opinion and not mine, yours > mine. Again, untrue.

DarkReign

08-04-2009, 03:24 PM

I've lived most of my life without a killcam.

Well, that was just an obvious observation, really. No server worth its salt allows killcam.

Additionally, you being killed all the time does not classify the server as 'pro' or even 'noob.' It simply means your skill level and knowledge of the game is lower than the others playing there.

Who said I get killed all the time? I said, you could get killed 15x by the same guy and never know exactly where he is.

Knowledge of the game? Are you fucking serious? Knowledge of what? The maps? Truth is, no one has a real grasp of the maps when its running 80+ in constant rotation. You might have 20 favs or whatever, but that still leaves 60 to confound you.

Cool story. Read above. Custom maps are "fun", and some perhaps even balanced, but if you want to outthink instead of randomly outgun your enemy, I'd stick with the guaranteed balance and design of official maps. Those unofficial ones are littered with 'gay' spots.

You have a superiority complex, my friend. Enjoy that.

resistanze

08-04-2009, 03:28 PM

That's what you'd be doing, since you followed me through multiple threads now with this waw shit. I know you think your opinion > mine, its not. I know you also think that if many share your opinion and not mine, yours > mine. Again, untrue.
Nope, you said 'lol cod 4' in this thread. I was laughing at the fact that you're still angry about being cock-slapped in the rap thread, that you're taking out your anger on CH here.

You said nobody gives a fuck about CH's score, yet everyone in this thread except you is fine with it. Deal with your displaced anger.

All we need is Kori in this thread telling you to shut the fuck up with you apologizing and we'll be set.

z0sa

08-04-2009, 03:39 PM

Who said I get killed all the time? I said, you could get killed 15x by the same guy and never know exactly where he is.

and I responded in kind. "You" could get killed 15x by the same guy and not know where he is. "You" getting killed all the time doesn't mean that guy is some pro.

Knowledge of the game? Are you fucking serious? Knowledge of what? The maps?

yeah? You think knowledge of the maps isn't an advantage? Nay, let me rephrase: do you think knowledge of the maps isn't essential?

Truth is, no one has a real grasp of the maps when its running 80+ in constant rotation. You might have 20 favs or whatever, but that still leaves 60 to confound you.

Disagree that most, if not all, of those maps aren't memorized. The players killing you from where you can't find them know the map better than you, it's really quite simple.

You have a superiority complex, my friend. Enjoy that.

Care to summarize your diagnosis?

z0sa

08-04-2009, 03:44 PM

Nope, you said 'lol cod 4' in this thread. I was laughing at the fact that you're still angry about being cock-slapped in the rap thread, that you're taking out your anger on CH here.

my anger?

You said nobody gives a fuck about CH's score, yet everyone in this thread except you is fine with it.

It's a bitchmade move. Nothing more. I stated an opinion and get called jealous, angry and stupid by little bitches like yourself bringing up some perceived 'ownage' that never occurred. Just like in the other thread. What post, other than Kori's which you keep citing, did I get owned? The 10 times pussylips asked for an answer I had already clearly given? Some troll just talking out his ass? Wow, that's great affiliation.

Face it: if I had mentioned some type of music you didn't like, you wouldn't have cared at all. Its just that my opinion conflicts with yours, just like waw, and you can't stand that. Not my problem.

All we need is Kori in this thread telling you to shut the fuck up with you apologizing and we'll be set.

LOL, I never apologized. I wouldn't apologize, either. And I've apologized on this forum plenty.

Cry Havoc

08-04-2009, 11:38 PM

my anger?

Let's see. After the initial post with my score on bog, you're response was thus:

What's the max score available on PC version, Havoc? On xbox live its 750 ONLY and I average 20-25 kills. We should team up one day on something common we both have on the same platform. Ever been in any leagues? From what it seems, I'd bet we'd have some killer strats and plenty of aiming to go with em. maybe some cs source, as I've read you played quite a bit of cs in your day.

there's nothing i want more than someone local who I could team up with and start another team (i'm assuming your in SA). I've been on sponsored (by lan center) teams and have advanced in multiple Counter-strike/call of duty leagues as to my info. I've mainly been a CS kinda guy and I just made the jump to source since I got a new PC less than 2 weeks ago. I'm a little rusty and newbie to the source engine, but I'm averaging about 2:1 thus far.

i'm not an incredibly fat, childish loser either, in case that matters, though i do smoke some pot.

Annnnd after the 2nd post (not the 4th as you so erroneously claimed :rolleyes)

:lol attention wh0ring bitch. this is like the 4th time you've said this shit and posted screenies. Nobody gives a fuck about your pub scores. The competition sucks, period. Upload a DEMO of you owning while ringing in a 5v5 or something and you'll deserve a few minor props. Upload a DEMO of you beasting with your team on a league, instead of needlessly bumping a thread just so you can show off your pub score halfway through a random match :lol

Thunder Dan: How do I get better at cod 4?

Havoc: Check this screen I made halfway through the game! I just went 30-0 in a random pub with a bunch of newbies!

So yeah. I guess people are just noting how slightly inconsistent your posts are, and correlated with what went down lately in The Club, other posters on this site have essentially started to figure out you're a drama whore. Nothing more, nothing less. You even admit you're a dick, so why argue with everyone? If you're a dick, you're going to piss people off. You should be able to figure that out and then move on.

It's a bitchmade move. Nothing more.

Sooooo, the first time I post a screenie, you want to be my friend and buddy buddy.

The second time I post one, it's a bitchmove. Got it. That makes a whole lot of sense.

I stated an opinion and get called jealous, angry and stupid by little bitches like yourself bringing up some perceived 'ownage' that never occurred. Just like in the other thread. What post, other than Kori's which you keep citing, did I get owned? The 10 times pussylips asked for an answer I had already clearly given? Some troll just talking out his ass? Wow, that's great affiliation.

You're the one who responded to the trolls, dude. Don't blame other people because you decided to fight tooth and nail with EVERY person in there, until a mod comes along and then all of a sudden you're slathered in obsequiousness. It's readily apparent to EVERY poster who read that thread that you were calling out everyone else in that thread and talking trash/calling names/etc., but you wouldn't dare say anything out of line to Kori. And you call posting a screenshot a bitchmove? :lol You got owned plenty of times, and yet the only one you'll subscribe to (in an act of self-preservation) was Kori. Yet if you're truly the "dick" you claim to be and you couldn't care less, you would have gone right after Kori for disagreeing with you too. Unless you really want everyone to believe that your acquiescence and her modship are mere coincidences. :lol

Disagree that most, if not all, of those maps aren't memorized. The players killing you from where you can't find them know the map better than you, it's really quite simple.

It's also really quite simple that for the past month, we have been adding and subtracting maps on a 4-5 day rotation. And they are completely randomized, so it's not like I know, "Hey at 4:00 a map I know is on so I'll go pwn some people." We have probably had around 300 different maps on the server at one point or another. We try to cipher out the good ones and toss the maps that people don't like as much.

LOL, I never apologized. I wouldn't apologize, either. And I've apologized on this forum plenty.

That's about... uh... as contradictory of a statement as you can make. So you would NEVER dare to apologize on this forum.... except all the times you have. Got it.

Save whose face? My anonymous nickname's face?

Yes. Clearly you don't think about what other people think of you here. That's why you're closing in on 4,000 posts. If you really don't care what people think of you, why post here? A forum is supposed to be a social place where you enjoy the company of others. It's not too difficult to get along. I promise.

Then why the fuck are you giving me shit for being a dick to Havoc? According to you, people can post whatever they fucking feel like.

Because you're instigating disputes by calling other posters out for no reason. You're intentionally trying to stir up drama and piss other people off. Just because we have freedom of speech in this country does not mean you can go up to a cop and start calling him names -- or anyone else for that matter. The same applies to this forum. You can post whatever you like -- as long as you're staying in the realm of decency. But that has apparently waved "bye bye" to you long ago.

Cool story. Read above. Custom maps are "fun", and some perhaps even balanced, but if you want to outthink instead of randomly outgun your enemy, I'd stick with the guaranteed balance and design of official maps. Those unofficial ones are littered with 'gay' spots.

Yeah, wow, you're right. There are definitely no cheap-shot spots on the official maps of CoD4 and WaW. :lmao

Basically it comes down to this: Why do you post in a forum if it's just to piss people off and start confrontation? That seems like an awful waste of time to me. Unless you actually take enjoyment from it, in which case being on a Sports forum talking about video games are the least of your concern. I just think it's kind of sad that something within prevents you from having civil discourse on any kind of topic where others are disagreeing with you.

z0sa

08-05-2009, 04:54 AM

TLDR.

btw, you keep bringing up the eminem thread because you're a big p-u-s-s-y with nothing else better to say. You have no victory in it. You cheerleaded through it, douche. Every time you've tried to insult me, I had an answer 100x better than anything you could ever come up with. I paid respect to Kori because its her forum and I do enjoy many aspects of it. Go right ahead thinking I'm a bitch for doing that, because every response YOU give me I meticulously, completely dismantle and make you look like the little piece of shit you are. Don't act like I started this, either. You had no reason to talk shit period in the rap thread, as 10 other people got to it before you did. You had no reason to keep talking shit in the end after Kori responded to me. You had no reason to bring up my name in the "new owner" thread in the nba forum. You had no reason to bring up the rap thread here. Indeed, it is obviously you who has a problem with me. Not only that, it is you who is obviously reaching to insult me, not vice versa.

truth is, anyone who would have posted a screenie like that would have gotten shit from me, but in jest. But quickly I'm realizing you're a cunt, so I made it extra descriptive. Hope you enjoyed.

resistanze

08-05-2009, 09:26 AM

Face it: if I had mentioned some type of music you didn't like, you wouldn't have cared at all. Its just that my opinion conflicts with yours, just like waw, and you can't stand that. Not my problem.

No one called you out for disliking rap. You tried to argue that it wasn't a genre of music while making sweeping and ignorant generalizations about a genre you don't even listen to. And guess what - it was everyone's opinion that you were a dumbass for doing so.

truth is, anyone who would have posted a screenie like that would have gotten shit from me, but in jest.
You're lying.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3491518&postcount=37

You're butthurt and too hardheaded to admit it. Time to move on.

Cry Havoc

08-05-2009, 01:09 PM

z0sa

08-05-2009, 01:28 PM

No one called you out for disliking rap. You tried to argue that it wasn't a genre of music while making sweeping and ignorant generalizations about a genre you don't even listen to.

And their all my opinions, which made you butthurt. LOL at thinking you could say the same thing I just said, and spin it to make it seem like the exact opposite happened.

And guess what - it was everyone's opinion that you were a dumbass for doing so.

More like, it's the only answer you can fire back since everyone, including Kori, knows it was at most, pompous and arrogant. Not an attack on any person even those who like rap. Additionally, I never argued it wasn't a genre of music. I argued it simply isn't music. However, I had no set definition, and admitted very early on it that when using the official definition, it is music.

Time to move on.

I'm sorry, when was the time to stay? I didn't start shit with you, in fact, because I like waw you started talking shit to me. AFAIC, you are all the ones butthurt and owned. You've kept after me through thread after thread in multiple different sections now.

z0sa

08-05-2009, 01:42 PM

Good for you. Keep making valuable contributions to Spurstalk as you have been. :tu :lol

I appreciate the encouragement.

DarkReign

01-25-2010, 11:16 AM

Soooooo,

I got bored over the weekend and wanted to play Modern Warfare 1 again for giggles. After going through the test course in the beginning, it suggested Veteran difficulty.

So I did. Holy shit. Some of the parts are just ridiculous.

As it were, I beat the game and had to do "Mile High Club". Honestly, after braving the entire game on veteran up until that point (all gillied up, specifically), I dont see what was so hard about it.

In the past, I was always surprised by all the videos of it online. Maybe its playing on the PC or something else, but it took me maybe only 20-30 tries (just to get the timing down, really).

I had beat the game before, but not on Vet. Dont get me wrong now, I still died even when doing well because the AI suddenly becomes Annie Oakley at the most unpredictable times, that was frustrating. But beyond that, I had a waaaaaaay harder time on other missions (mostly because of sheer numbers of enemies).

"All Gillied Up" especially. I finally realized the choppers dropping off the soldiers are unimportant. Its the constant flow of soldiers from around the building that need to die en masse. Let Gaz handle the drop soldiers. You need to take your ass to the East corridor and kill every bad guy who comes around the corner. Save for a few heli-dudes that shack up behind the ferris wheel that you need to deal with, makes the level easy sauce. But not after dying hundreds of times. What really pissed me off though was I had setup my clays around the ferris wheel thinking that was where I would make my stand. Game saved after setup. After getting fucking ass-raped in the first 2 minutes 12 dozen times, I rethought my strategy and it became a lot easier.

Anyway, just wanted to share my CoD4 experience. Still an outstanding game, through and through.

Trainwreck2100

01-25-2010, 02:06 PM

Gaz isn't in "all ghillied up" It's Price's old boss

DarkReign

01-25-2010, 02:45 PM

Gaz isn't in "all ghillied up" It's Price's old boss

HA...who is the bigger dork?

Me for trying to name the guy or you for correcting me?

:lmao

Youre right. In that mission, YOU are Gaz, iirc.

Trainwreck2100

01-25-2010, 04:38 PM

HA...who is the bigger dork?

Me for trying to name the guy or you for correcting me?

:lmao

Youre right. In that mission, YOU are Gaz, iirc.

capt. Price

DarkReign

01-25-2010, 04:50 PM

capt. Price

Oh jeebus fucking christ....

The sniper guy, how about that?

How the fuck do you remember this shit, anyway?

Trainwreck2100

01-25-2010, 07:37 PM

it was price's flashback

duhoh

01-26-2010, 04:42 AM

m4 w/ red dot
deagle
flash
claymores
uav jammer
dead silence

that's my all purpose kit. when you're around lvl 50, do it!

Whisky Dog

01-28-2010, 09:39 PM

I bought this game for like 15 bucks a couple weeks ago for my 360 and loved the game. Beat it on veteran 1st time through, and DR is right - that end stand by the amusement rides on the flashback sniper level was a bit tough. I finally played online last night for the 1st time and this was the 1st time I had played online in a fps since Halo 2 for the 1st xbox in 2005, but I used to play the f'n shit out of that one with my brother (who lives across the state) and our friends. I'm thankful to say that it is exactly like riding a bike - ya never lose it.

After 5 yrs absense and a completely different format I was able to pick up and start killing/sniping relatively well. I jumped right into TDM and got berrated pregame for being a level 1, being called cute and new meat and all sorts of stuff, but that one match was the extent of it. Got a 18 and 8 on the 1st one mostly because I don't know the maps at all. Thank god sniping us the same though and I can still hit a guy at distance while on the move. It's fun, gonna have to check out MW2.

Quick question, how do you get to use the claymores and other rifles? I keep getting stuck with a 3 burst rifle that I hate, I want the one with the red dot sight. I always have to kill a bastard and take his every time an that's just plain annoying.

z0sa

01-28-2010, 10:03 PM

Damn man, I really need to mellow out.

balli

01-28-2010, 11:07 PM

Quick question, how do you get to use the claymores and other rifles? I keep getting stuck with a 3 burst rifle that I hate, I want the one with the red dot sight. I always have to kill a bastard and take his every time an that's just plain annoying.
As you rank up, you'll get access to more guns/equipment/perks. IIRC, claymores unlock at like level 21. 23 maybe... somewhere in that range.

Ironically that 3 shot burst rifle (m16) is generally thought of as the most over-powerful gun in the game. The iron sights for it aren't great, but it's a really accurate, powerful gun. If you keep using it, you'll get used to it, probably love it and unlock a red dot sight. But if you can't dig it, soon enough you'll unlock the m4 and ak and you should already have the mp5. My two cents would be to NOT check out mw2 for awhile. If cod4 is fun and new for you, enjoy it alone, as it's a much better game. Congrats on the purchase.

TwAnKiEs

01-29-2010, 12:20 AM

capt. Price

Oh jeebus fucking christ....

The sniper guy, how about that?

How the fuck do you remember this shit, anyway?

it was price's flashback

:lmao:lmao

Cry Havoc

01-29-2010, 01:46 AM

Damn man, I really need to mellow out.

:lmao

FWIW, you've been pretty chill/cool since then. :downspin:

DisAsTerBot

01-29-2010, 09:36 AM

:lmao

FWIW, you've been pretty chill/cool since then. :downspin:

you havent been to the club in a while...

z0sa

01-29-2010, 11:12 AM

you havent been to the club in a while...

:lol that topic was just unnecessary, I should have stopped way before page 7.

Thanks havoc, truth be told I try to stay even keeled but I get fired up a bit easily.

Whisky Dog

02-08-2010, 03:46 PM

As you rank up, you'll get access to more guns/equipment/perks. IIRC, claymores unlock at like level 21. 23 maybe... somewhere in that range.

Ironically that 3 shot burst rifle (m16) is generally thought of as the most over-powerful gun in the game. The iron sights for it aren't great, but it's a really accurate, powerful gun. If you keep using it, you'll get used to it, probably love it and unlock a red dot sight. But if you can't dig it, soon enough you'll unlock the m4 and ak and you should already have the mp5. My two cents would be to NOT check out mw2 for awhile. If cod4 is fun and new for you, enjoy it alone, as it's a much better game. Congrats on the purchase.

Ok, played it a bit now and hit level 32 pretty quickly. I still can't see how the m16 is viable - against anybody worth a shit you're dead long before that 1st burst is done and you can get off a second. I even went back to try it with the double tap and it still didn't work for me. I'm m4 with either stopping power or double tap all the way for quickness and fast kills. Another thing I noticed is that people completely disregard the claymores for setting traps and getting residual kills. I stagger 2 to catch people running blind around high traffic corners and get 4 to 6 kills a game usually just from that. Plus it's fun as hell to watch some poor bastard run a corner, see you, then as they try to aim they trip the 1st mine and go boom.