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I thought you said you couldn't play it because it made you dizzy?
I finished the game and have moved on to online play in deathmatches and I get crushed everytime. Anyone have any tips on how I can not get killed every 20 seconds? I swear no matter what I do someone is always night behind me killing me, and every time I think I have a good hiding spot to snipe people I get killed. I never get any easy kills like people have on me and it pissed me off. I need some tips
I thought you said you couldn't play it because it made you dizzy?
Stop sucking
play it for hours upon hours
pretty much what stretch said
I see what your problem is
Cod 4 is like anti sniper the maps are really really small for sniping. Get cod waw if you like sniping but the game sucks
Get as much penetration power as possible and just shoot random . You're sure to get at least a couple kills.
The number 1 thing that's going to help you is familiarity with the maps. Until you get to a point where you know every nook and cranny, dudes are going to have a sizable advantage on you. To mitigate this, I'd suggest you stay on the move. Every time you stop and camp in what looks to be a safe spot, you become a target for people who see you on UAV and/or guess where you are. Be smart about it. Think about what your team is doing. Use them or don't, but have a clear strategy about how you want approach each game. Decide if you want to flank the battle, hang back with claymores or charge right up the middle, but be quick and decisive. Adjust your classes accordingly. I know it really hurts to give up stopping power as a perk, but if you're on a lot of bad teams and you're hearing a lot of, "enemy UAV is airborne," it might be beneficial to throw on the UAV jammer.
The only guns you should use until you're pretty decent are the MP5, AK47, M4, M16 and if you snipe the M40 with stopping power. The M16 is probably the most user friendly gun in the game. Three shot burst, if you sink all three with stopping power equipped, you get a kill. Perks and attachments will come fast, just figure out which guns you like most and stick to their strengths. The iron sights on both the MP5 and AK are user friendly, more powerful and you'll just get better if you use them.
If you bring up your sights in semi close quarters, start firing from the hip, so you're squeezing the right trigger ahead of the left. Especially with the SMG's.
If you're going to snipe use claymores. Eventually you'll get to a point where more often than not you'll know when somebody's coming, but you can't do that now, so hold off on sniping until you have claymores to back you up. Go to buildings with only one or two entrances and set em' up at each. You'll get a lot of kills or you'll know when somebody's coming. Snipers kill snipers all the time. So again, I'd stick to moving with automatic weapons until you know exactly where each potential sniping spot relates to the rest of the map. Don't waste your time running around with a sniper rifle or no scoping. Unless you're in a way open sightline, use your .45 when you're on the move. If you have a chance always swap your pistol out for something better. Eventually sniping will make you powerful. Once you can snap scope ers you drop one shot kills fast as lightning. At some point, get good at that , but not now.
People say free for all is the most chaotic. I disagree. Free for All is really good for honing your skills. Instead of getting into firefights against whole squads it allows a better chance to stalk and kill individual opponents. Not to say that you won't get blindsided or overwhelmed (a lot), but there'll be many more 1 vs. 1 battles in a FFA lobby. And many less instances where you spawn or turn a corner and a whole team starts popping you. I think you'd have a hard time excelling in FFA. Most often there are a couple guys at the top with 20+ kills and everyone else comes in all lowly, especially on smaller maps... but you wouldn't be facing a wall of bullets, all the time, like in TDM. Might be worth considering until you get a good feel for the maps and guns.
Level up
Seriously, take balli's advice. I'm sure CH has some good tips too.
Last edited by resistanze; 06-23-2009 at 04:47 PM.
don't try sniping because you suck. get good with assault weapons like the MP5, m16 and AK-47 and by good, I mean completely get every challenge for them.
But aiming is only half the battle. Get to know the maps and predict your enemies' movement - this is what any FPS is about. Once you have an idea of where an enemy is going, always go in behind them RIGHT NOW. fullspeed flanking (as fast as you can without alerting the entire enemy army) is the only type that works well in CoD and the best FPS. if the enemy starts respawning behind you, retrace your steps and reflank what you just came from. If they spawn close or on top of you, more will be too as it spawns people close to living players if possible, so make a quick decision to push into a safe area that used to be enemy territory and now isn't, or to withdraw, depending upon your exact situation (just takes time to learn - go with your natural instinct as its probably best).
Use your nades. I don't know how many noobies I've seen, on every FPS that has em, completely ignore the fact they have tons of grenades at their disposal. Nades, and how you use them, separate great players from great shooters.
Remember to use your team as well. If you have rather stupid teammates who are just running face first into death over and over, go ahead and "bait" them by letting them go first while you trail behind to kill the enemies who undoubtedly kill them (while backing them up of course, straight baiting and camping won't get you kills). In this same way, you can 'leach' on to better players and learn some of their moves. You can do this ingame by pressing the 'select' button and looking for the best KDR - kill-death ratio. Find some who's at least 1:1 ie 12 kills, 12 deaths, and back them up while you get better. Do this every server you can (sometimes your team just gets raped, we all go through it) and you'll find you like having a good teammates.
Tying in with using your team is the radar, your most important tool. Anytime you have recon, keep your eyes glued to the radar on every scan for enemies. Once you get to know the maps, you can predict enemy movements and positions accurately if you simply use your radar to its fullest use. Even when you don't have recon only the map, you should be using your radar all the time anyway because it always shows your teammates and where enemies fired from for a few short seconds after they do so. Using these two together, even without radar you can figure out where enemies are located/attacking right now by judging the amount of kills/deaths you're teammates are enduring and how they're positioned, along with the icons indicating the enemies are firing their weapons.
And honestly, practice. I'd personally get the new CoD if you really want to get good for MW2. Nazi Zombies is basically an aim mode with survival/advancement worked in.
I would like to say this: you say you're getting pissed because you're not getting the 'easy' kills. Hey man, they're only easy when you've done it a billion times. Easy for me doesn't mean easy for you. Just worry about improving and those easy kills will be just that.
Last edited by z0sa; 06-23-2009 at 04:54 PM.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this before: Use headphones. And I don't mean the cheap $2 skullcandies you see at Walmart. If you're serious about fragging, get some absolutely fantastic headphones. I rock the Ultrasone HFI 780s that are in my avatar. And I cannot BEGIN to tell you what a difference headphones (good ones) make. Don't listen to the gamers who feed on marketing hype, and will all tell you to buy Barracuda's or "x" gaming headphone. Gaming headphones SUCK for gaming. They're all about bass and making explosions feel like you're in a Hollywood movie. That's great for being cool, but you want ACCURATE sound.
I can listen to ONE footstep from someone and know exactly how far away they are because of the direction (right or left) map (where CAN a person be in this position) and proximity (how close they are). The last quality is the one that will distinguish a set of good cans from ground-pounders (headphones that are heavy on bass and little else). For a starter, I can recommend the Sennheiser HD280s as fantastic headphones for the money, and as a bonus they'll sound great when listening to music as well. Some people may try to dissuade you from good headphones, but if you can hear someone coming before they even know you're there, you have a huge advantage on them. At least 2-3 times per session when I'm playing CoD4, my headphones let me know where someone is that I normally would not be able to hear. As a result, I can recount exactly two times I have been knifed in the past month while playing on my compe ive clan server. I can hear people who are walking with dead silence on, and that's a huge advantage.
Secondly, I have to agree with "learning the maps". Just like in a racing game, you aren't going to be compe ive until you know about the little bump in turn three that will send you into a spin if you so much as graze it. CoD4 maps are pretty tightly constricted -- they are tiny by larger FPS standards. This means that sniping is a skill that must be honed after everything else is at a peak level. You can't sit in a spot and pick off unsuspecting players, not only will you likely get shot before this happens, but your tracer rounds will give any good player an instant kill. Learn the maps. Run around them. Find the places that are best to set up in. Usually if I'm looking to get a few kills, I stay put for 15-20 seconds in one place, then move. Otherwise, you're too easy a target for a grenade or a sniper.
When I was learning CoD4, I found the M4 to be the best weapon while learning the maps. It's got decent power, can fire close or long range, and is extremely accurate. And that's the real key. Finding accuracy. All the tools and knowledge in the world won't help you if the other guy gets his sights on you first. Learn to make the motion of your gun like breathing. If you're using a mouse, get a good mouse to get precise motion down. If you're on a controller, I find that higher sensitivity may suck at first, but can be extremely useful for quick reactions when you get used to it. Either way, you HAVE TO practice accuracy and aiming. Spraying bullets to get kills will NEVER make you a better player. One extremely well placed shot is worth more than 10 kills gained by emptying your clip, waiting for luck to take effect. When you learn to start aiming instead of spraying, you'll eventually learn exactly how to put your sights on the other player's upper torso and head. And then the kills will come. But just like anything else in life, you have to do it thousands of times, minimum. Think of it like the touch on a jumpshot -- you've got to keep it up, repeatedly, perhaps even for years before you really can "feel" the shot. The same time of touch applies to CoD4, if it's just a little more focused on the movement of your fingers rather than a whole-body motion. Keep in mind that some of these jerks (myself included) have been playing FPS games for years, so they have all that practice as a head-start.
alright, thanks for the tips so far. How do I use the radar? Whenever I look at it I only see my guys, how can I see where the enemies are? and I can't use C4 right now becuase I'm only a corporal or something
Just curious, are you on a console or a PC?
Start using Bots.
Some good advice in this thread
I'm gonna fire this game for the first time in a couple of months, wanna see if I still got it.
I say try playing Headquarters because unlike deathmatch you have to move around to the random spot to take over the HQ so everyone will be going there which means less campers/snipers.
Sometime the HQ is in the wide open so you can get plenty of kills there.
Yeah, agreed. That was something I didn't touch on - explore the bevy of game modes! By trying new objectives, you develop more constant memories of the maps themselves while improving your feel for the flow of the game. After nonstop fighting in some modes, you might find yourself a little better prepared for the slower, more methodical killing found in TDM.
Last edited by z0sa; 06-24-2009 at 12:31 AM.
i'm 99% sure he's on a PS3 considering we argued over whether he should get 4 or WaW for it
that's why I don't think he been using head phones. If I'm playing PC games, I gotta have 'em. For my CoD 4/WaW fix on 360, I just turn the speakers up
It takes practice and having a decent mental image of the map in your head, but you can always use it like I described earlier. However, the actual recon occurs when you or one of your teammates gets 3 kills in a row. It gives you a recon plane which sends random sweeps (probably 10-15 over 30 seconds) over the whole map. Enemies appear as red dots. You don't get to see them moving per se, but every sweep if carefully monitored will give you decent information.
Every sweep, the long line running across your radar when your team gets a recon plane, will reveal any enemies not using radar jamming (most don't) for a second. Wait 5 seconds every recon plane and get an idea of where the enemies are located and where you think they might be headed.Whenever I look at it I only see my guys, how can I see where the enemies are?
The game's announcer voice alerts you to both friendly and enemy recon planes, airstrikes, and helicopters. Keep an ear open for whenever you hear any of these things announced, because you can use them to your advantage like everything else:
1) When your team has a recon plane going, attack. You know exactly where the enemy is, flank them or wait to meet them head on if you can tell they're rushing your position - they probably don't know you're there unless you've been shooting wildly or they got a recon plane themselves.
2)If you're flanking and hear the enemy has a recon plane, I usually fake one way (go 5-6 steps down a certain path so I show up on their sweeps in one position) then start halling ass the opposite way straight to the carnage. Don't let them isolate you now that they know where you're at.
3)Anytime you hear airstrike, get under something.
4) Ditto with helicopters. They move around the map obviously, so try and stick to the walls directly underneathe them if you have to move around in the open.
forget c4, it can be used but not nearly effectively as a claymore. Try replacing that with 3x special grenades to hone your nading skills. Try to use all your nades every round and get at least one kill for every death and you'll be well on your way to greatnessand I can't use C4 right now becuase I'm only a corporal or something
Last edited by z0sa; 06-24-2009 at 12:52 AM.
Its been so long since Ive played COD4, but here goes...
Play a lot.
Know your maps.
Aim high. Hitting someone in the hips and stomach dont mean while he's shooting you in the face. You'll miss a lot at first, and it varies with what weapon youre using (the "climb" of auto fire), but really, you need to get used to aiming high. Blind fire only works in close quarters, by blind fire I mean no crosshairs/scope and hitting the target basically anywhere in the body.
Find different spots. For example, in that Hangar map (silos in the middle, jets to the north, buildings all around), hanging out in the buildings is not a good idea. Youre a fish in a barrel, especially if your dip teammates start following you in there. Under the trucks is better (but predictable), on top of the silo covers is best (obscured by the smoke/steam), but still predictable.
Best spot IMO, is in the corners. I have always been a corner player in FPS games. It guarantees that nobody can sneak up in blindspots, gives you a wide view of the area and puts you in a position to shoot incoming enemies busy fleeing from other firefights. Bad part is, anyone that knows youre there will just lay the area full of nades, flush you out and pick you off.
Thats why you rotate constantly, dont stay in one place. If you play with KillCam (dumb idea, btw), youre dead. If you do not (purity), youre good for maybe 3-4 kills before they figure where the fire is coming from.
So move move move!
You have to learn how to run-n-gun. Crouch often, every time you shoot (increased accuracy with none of the drawbacks of having to get up and down from prone).
Nades. Learn them....love them. They, IMO, are your greatest asset. Being accurate with them is optimal (obviously), but even lobbing a nade near or in a room with the enemy is good enough. It makes them move....fast. The faster you can get the "3 Grenades" upgrade, the better (for me anyway).
Im not familiar with the console versions of COD4, but on PC it has a "realism" setting (iirc) thats more realistic damage. 4-5 shots in the stomach, youre dead. 1-2 shots in the shoulders and above, youre dead. I prefer this version of play, fwiw.
Radar. Use it. Especially early in your COD4 lifetime where youre not nearly as good a player as the others. Knowledge of where the enemy is, combined with knowledge of the maps will go a looooong way to increasing your survivability.
I dont know if youve played many FPS games, but the approach to ALL of them is the same in the beginning.
1. Learn to aim, period. Every game is different, learn the nuances of the system, adjust your sensitivity accordingly.
2. Learn the maps. No brainer, there.
3. Learn to survive before you try to thrive. One must always assume when entering any new shooting game that everyone in the game is FAR better than you and been playing a LOT longer. An older game like COD4 is about as old a FPS as there is, with an ingrained player base of near pros. Youre going to get spanked and discouraged if you think youre just going to dive in and start running around the maps, down long corridors, poking your head through windows, standing in a building, etc.
You have to see the areas of the map that you survive the longest in, even if its only seconds/minutes. Stick to those, because it means two things. 1. Its not high traffic, youre noob, less people see you, the better at this point. 2. It gives you a chance to get comfortable with that portion of the map. Once comfortable, you'll relax and focus on the other important factors of the game (aiming, movement, entrances, exits and killzones).
I cant stress that aspect enough. Learn to survive in a new FPS before trying to thrive. Obviously, if you were a pro player at COD2, this shouldnt be the largest adjustment in the world (save for weapons and maps), so you can skip this phase more or less. But if youre a noob (sounds like you are), then its the only piece of advice I can give you that means .
Everyone plays differently. Some people are just incredible shots. They plain dont miss, thats a difficult curve to overcome. Some people are campers with an exit strategy (most campers dont have one, thus nades). Some people run wild into a firefight with guns blazing...theyre usually not very good but they can sometimes get very lucky. Some people snipe, some people creep up on you for the close kill (most dangerous people IMO...combine them with great accuracy and theyre top of the charts every game).
Learn to survive. The rest will come.
Also, something that I had to learn that's mostly specific to CoD4, and it's one tip that I have died countless times before I realized what was going on....
Do NOT stick your gun out of a window. Using your gun from a window is great, and can be one of the easiest sources of kills in the game. HOWEVER, if you actually walk all the way up to the window (so you're pressed against the wall), and then aim at something, your gun is going to stick so far out that veteran players are going to shoot you before you even have a chance to look around.
If you're gonna peek out a window, get back a little bit. Several steps, in fact. Not only will this decrease your visibility dramatically, it also increases the angle of attack necessary to shoot you. Overall, you're a much more difficult target to see and therefore hit.
Also, once you get familiar with maps, it's always easier to play when you get off to a good start. Rushing at the beginning of maps to places you know the opponents are going to is an EASY way to get kills.
In Crossfire, I was almost guaranteed to get an airstrike within a minute into the map, just by getting to hotpots before anyone else.
The trick to the Cod4, WoW, or any FPS is patience. No matter how much info you take in, there is always going to be matches where you can't seem to get anything going. I've played many matches where I can go 35 and 5 and not have as much fun as going 5 and 10 and playing with a squad of friends.
No matter how much you play or hone your skills, there will always be someone better than you and so, when you've accepted the fact that this is after all, just a game--you will relax and enjoy it a bit more and it seems that makes the experience a whole lot better.
After all, its a game...that's it...you aren't going to get laid because of your prowess on Modern Warfare...
There is always going to be inadequacies when it comes to gameplay. I don't know how many times I've been killed by someone who wasn't even aiming at me. I don't know if the game has automatic compensation for lousy aim, but it just bugs the sh#t out of me when you have a sniper that's aiming 5 to 10 feet away from you and still manages to put one into your chest.
Also, the whole sniper patch really made it easy for people to be snipers. I personally loathe snipers in FPS because, well, what are you attempting to do? Join as a marksman for Special Ops or what?
and finally, about guns...
Yeah, you can go with the norm... M16, M4, AK47, MP5, RPD, or the P90 as your weapons of choice, but the truth is--find what fits you.
For me, my weapon of choice is a G3 with a red dot sight. It isn't the fastest gun, nor doesn't have the volumous capacity as light machine gun, but for medium and long range assaults, it takes 2 shots and if you're used to the weapon, you can pull the trigger rapidly and take out a cluster of opponents in a short amount of time.
Some good advice here.
I think the Ps3 is very different, because in my experience the console and PC versions play EXTREMELY independently of each other. Console CoD4 matches play so much more slowly, almost at a snails pace at times. But this allows you to navigate in areas that you can't on PC. If you expose yourself for a tenth of a second in a good PC match, you're toast.
That said, my favorite weapon is the G3. I use it in combination with claymores, UAV Jammer, and dead silence. I don't move a lot, but when I do I like being able to slip completely behind the enemy without being detected. It results in a lot of me vs. 4 guys with their backs to me situations, and I can usually get at least 3, perhaps all of them if they're unsuspecting. However, when I first started, the G3 was rough to use, as I didn't understand the flow of the maps or where a lot of hiding spots were, so I'd have a lot of people pop out at me close range with a fully automatic weapon.
The G3 is fantastic because it bridges the gap between sniping weapon and still affords you the flexibility and ease (not to mention the speed) of a regular sight.
The red blips are the bad guys and will always show up when they fire unless they have a silencer, you are probably not using your radar enough. And C4 is default so you should be able to use it all the time
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