sarah palin steps down as governor

[jack sommerset]

I would say cock going in and out of chumps holes makes him a pussy.

[ChumpDumper]

I would say cock going in and out of chumps holes makes him a pussy.Wow, you just can't get your mind off the thought of it, can you?

[whottt]

Sure I did.
No you didn't.




Not that I agree with your equation, but you just called yourself stupid.

Ha ha.

You got me Chump. Congrats.

Ha ha.

[whottt]

:lmao

sig worthy

Please sig it...

[jman3000]

So she's basically giving up being the governor of Alaska in order to become Joe the Plumber on steroids.

Brilliant.

[SonOfAGun]

Joe the plumber on roids would look just like Mr. Clean.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Does this increase or decrease the chances of us one day getting naked pictures of her?

[Oh, Gee!!]

it's a preemptive move on her part--turns out trig is actually the love child of palin's 14 y.o. daughter and A-Rod. Like Robert Downey, Jr. says in Tropic Thunder "Never go full retard." You mmmmmmmake mmmmeeee happee!!

[Wild Cobra]

This is as funny as the Bristol Palin Campaign for Abstinence.
Am I to understand you don't believe people can learn from their mistakes?

[whottt]

Am I to understand you don't believe people can learn from their mistakes?

They believe people can learn from their mistakes, that's why they made a former klan head the Senate leader of their party.

They just don't believe 18 year old non-Democrat girls can.

And in their eyes being a reformed pregnant teen is far worse than being a former klan head.

[whottt]

whottt, how exactly do you argue politics outside this forum? 'cause I don't think you'd last long if you're as much of a fucking prick outside as you are in here. I'd imagine you're pretty damn timid when arguing face to face, and you're like this here to vent. Its the only reasonable excuse for how you use the political forum in here as you own personal letrine.





I don't argue politics outside the forum, I don't even bother discussing them with people I know are dyed in the wool members of a certain party. It's pretty much a pointless waste of time. Furthermore, I don't really consider this political discussion anyway. I consider it a bunch of partisan retards in their respective mobs with the libs having the bigger more obnoxious mob. And I don't like mobs.

That's exactly what I consider this to be.


The reason I have a reluctance to get into any sort of political discussion in real life is because I truly hate to lose, an argument or otherwise. I won't be the one that backsdown or stops the escalation...ever.






And it's a latrine whether I am posting in here or not, you just like the smell of liberal shit better. At least, when it comes to American shit that's the smell you have a fondness for. Probably because you are in a country that the entire political compass points left in.


I could easily say the same thing though about just about anyone in this forum...

I know guys that if you called heir wives a stupid bitch or their daughters a slut because of their political affiliation, they would kill you. There would be no legalities or moral equivalancies, they wouldn't care about examples of other peoples wives being called bitch, or how witty your justification is, or if anyone else agreed, they'd simply kill you for it.

[Oh, Gee!!]

They believe people can learn from their mistakes, that's why they made a former klan head the Senate leader of their party.

They just don't believe 18 year old non-Democrat girls can.

And in their eyes being a reformed pregnant teen is far worse than being a former klan head.

funny that you keep mentioning head in a post about bristol. holla!

[whottt]

funny that you keep mentioning head in a post about bristol. holla!

Suck my head.

[LnGrrrR]

I know guys that if you called heir wives a stupid bitch or their daughters a slut because of their political affiliation, they would kill you. There would be no legalities or moral equivalancies, they wouldn't care about examples of other peoples wives being called bitch, or how witty your justification is, or if anyone else agreed, they'd simply kill you for it.

I'm missing the point of this part of your post. Sure, there are psychopaths. Not sure what that's supposed to prove.

[LnGrrrR]

False, they went after Palin's kids from the getgo, befroe she did any interviews, before she'd even given any speeches.

Who's this nebulous "they"? Are you talking about Democratic bloggers? Establishment types? Politicians?

Because if you're just saying, "Democratic bloggers", I can probably go to freerepublic.com and pull up a few hundred racist or bigoted comments about Obama, and another hundred sexist ones about Clinton for good measure.

Sure, not many insults slung at their children... but I seem to remember that Chelsea Clinton was the target of some insults back in the 90's.

[whottt]

I'm missing the point of this part of your post. Sure, there are psychopaths. Not sure what that's supposed to prove.

Maybe you should go read his post.

[whottt]

Who's this nebulous "they"? Are you talking about Democratic bloggers? Establishment types? Politicians?

Because if you're just saying, "Democratic bloggers", I can probably go to freerepublic.com and pull up a few hundred racist or bigoted comments about Obama, and another hundred sexist ones about Clinton for good measure.

Sure, not many insults slung at their children... but I seem to remember that Chelsea Clinton was the target of some insults back in the 90's.

They've never gone after anyone kids like they have Palin's. It's not like the Bush girls got a free pass...but what's been done to Palin, and the they I refer to it encompasses the totality of the liberal movement in this country, from bloggers or new outlets that produce it, to the media that report it, to the disingenuous fuckwads that pretend A. That they don't know what I'm talking about and B. That it's justified.

You guys go after infant babies now, you have since the day she was nominated...and I hope a very bad fate befalls your entire political party because of it, because you deserve to have a very bad fate befall you for doing it and or ignoring it.

And I'm sorry, but saying she shouldn't run for President or accept a VP nomination if she doesn't want her children gone after is an excuse only a piece of excrement attempts to use.

[DMX7]

They've never gone after anyone kids like they have Palin's. It's not like the Bush girls got a free pass...

Oh please. They are not attacking her kids. The only one getting any heat is Bristol Palin and she is an adult with child and a political career.

The Bush girls were out getting drunk and getting into trouble for public nudity.

Besides, I don't remember the media calling out John Mccain when he made this classy joke when Clinton was president, "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

[Ignignokt]

Oh please. They are not attacking her kids. The only one getting any heat is Bristol Palin and she is an adult with child and a political career.

The Bush girls were out getting drunk and getting into trouble for public nudity.

Besides, I don't remember the media calling out John Mccain when he made this classy joke when Clinton was president, "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

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lolololololololololool!

I think if i were palin I'd take a couple of insults over a whole media, establismment campaign to call their daughters sluts.

You're a certified tool.

[Ignignokt]

Who's this nebulous "they"? Are you talking about Democratic bloggers? Establishment types? Politicians?

Because if you're just saying, "Democratic bloggers", I can probably go to freerepublic.com and pull up a few hundred racist or bigoted comments about Obama, and another hundred sexist ones about Clinton for good measure.

Sure, not many insults slung at their children... but I seem to remember that Chelsea Clinton was the target of some insults back in the 90's.

Are you dense.

Racist comments about OBama = disparaging comments about a kid.

On the surface they seem equal. But when someone actually takes of their Yes We Can rose colored glasses, they see the comparison is ridiculous.

ONE is a full grown Man, the other is a child. Whose going to handle it better.

And if you want to compare chelseas experience with the palins, you're another dishonest partisan bot.

[DMX7]

hhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah

lolololololololololool!

I think if i were palin I'd take a couple of insults over a whole media, establismment campaign to call their daughters sluts.

You're a certified tool.

Daughter, which other is taking heat..... You're a tool for buying into Palin's crying.

[Ignignokt]

Daughter, which other is taking heat..... You're a tool for buying into Palin's crying.

there was the letterman incident, and then the huffington post making fun of trig.

Do you own a tv?

[DMX7]

there was the letterman incident, and then the huffington post making fun of trig.

Do you own a tv?

Oh cry me a river.

Did they call Trig a "slut" like you say?

[boutons_deux]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1305/3352527625_6b3114ab11_o.jpg

[Wild Cobra]

Suck my head.You shouldn't ask him to do that. First off, he probably would. Then there's the probability of catching something that cannot be cured.

[Capt Bringdown]

Found on web (I like these):

Lipstick on a pig? That is unfair to pigs and lipstick. Maraschino cherry on a turd.

So, when the going gets tough, the tough resign?

Is that going to be her 2012 Presidential campaign slogan?

[Wild Cobra]

Found on web (I like these):

Lipstick on a pig? That is unfair to pigs and lipstick. Maraschino cherry on a turd.

So, when the going gets tough, the tough resign?

Is that going to be her 2012 Presidential campaign slogan?

I guess if you only have a half dozen brain cells, that can appear funny.

[jack sommerset]

This is the deal. People who knocked on this girl more often than not have the lesbians,fags,blacks,mexicans and democrats on there side. Making all those comments about Palin and her kids were wrong. It still is wrong. I have zero respect for those assholes who did not say it was wrong. If you want to get down on that level and start calling out these groups of people they will claim u are a bigot and a racist. It's fucking CRAZY. Lets put the fags and fake lesbians in there place. Build a stronger border and let the blacks know not to vote for a president based on color.

[Wild Cobra]

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[Winehole23]

It's fucking CRAZY. Lets put the fags and fake lesbians in there place. Build a stronger border and let the blacks know not to vote for a president based on color.People can vote for any reason they want to, building a stronger border is like closing the barn door after all the cows have escaped, and lastly, how do you plan to put the "fags and fake lesbians" back in their place?

Just curious.

[jack sommerset]

People can vote for any reason they want to, building a stronger border is like closing the barn door after all the cows have escaped, and lastly, how do you plan to put the "fags and fake lesbians" back in their place?

Just curious.

You truly don't believe everyone should vote for who they want based on color. If you do that makes you a douchebag and another example why America is sinking. Can we stop that? No but we can continue to let the blacks know they are not hated and are treated equally and call BULLSHIT when the blacks claim race card when there is not one being played.

Ur cow analogy is stupid. We our a country. We look out for ourselves first. Not only building a stronger border but actually kicking the ones out already here will give our citizens more jobs, higher paying jobs,keep us safer and not flood the country with future voters that hate America.

Let the fags know they are perverted disgusting pigs. We our starting to again saying "no fags marriage" Give it up for Obama for leading this fight back. It's getting carried away. I don't know the details on this example but I heard one school wanted the kids to have access to fag sites. Jesus Christ. Sticking ur dick in another man crack is disgusting enough and now a school wants to teach them how to do it right. Sick.....Simply sick. Calling out fags like Perez and his clan for not only knocking a women for supporting straight marriage but for all the fags and feminist for all the hate they cause.

[ploto]

Wow- eventually people show their true colors.

[jman3000]

Eventually?

Jack's come out of the closet a long time ago in regards to being an ignorant old man with a middle school diploma.

[jman3000]

Go suck a dick you fag and take a cock up your dripping ass hole you faggot ass fag ass homo.


-Jack

[DMX7]

Wow- eventually people show their true colors.

For real, Jack is a bitter man straight out of the old confederate south.

He probably thinks Bush was a success and now he's going to try and defend him.

[Winehole23]

You truly don't believe everyone should vote for who they want based on color. If you do that makes you a douchebag and another example why America is sinking. Should? No.

Can? yes.

Freedom of conscience means the freedom for *assholes* to believe and express things you may find offensive and wrong, or it isn't worth the name.

The rest of your post speaks for itself. I think it is offensive, hateful and wrong, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

That's one difference between you and me, jack. I defend your right to spew hate, while you demand that those you hate be deported or*shown their place*.

Liberty for you, deportation and intimidation for those who disagree.

True colors, indeed.

[jack sommerset]

Sorry...I don't like the fags. They are ass backwards for the most part. BUT should we obey our own laws and don't let illegals in. Yes. Should you base ur vote on color or race. No (lifestyle yes-fags). Should the media attack innocent kids of politicians. No. Hell I thought the police should atleast investigate Bidens 28 year old daughter for sniffing coke on a video and people went ape shit in this forum.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

You truly don't believe everyone should vote for who they want based on color. If you do that makes you a douchebag and another example why America is sinking. Can we stop that? No but we can continue to let the blacks know they are not hated and are treated equally and call BULLSHIT when the blacks claim race card when there is not one being played.

Ur cow analogy is stupid. We our a country. We look out for ourselves first. Not only building a stronger border but actually kicking the ones out already here will give our citizens more jobs, higher paying jobs,keep us safer and not flood the country with future voters that hate America.

Let the fags know they are perverted disgusting pigs. We our starting to again saying "no fags marriage" Give it up for Obama for leading this fight back. It's getting carried away. I don't know the details on this example but I heard one school wanted the kids to have access to fag sites. Jesus Christ. Sticking ur dick in another man crack is disgusting enough and now a school wants to teach them how to do it right. Sick.....Simply sick. Calling out fags like Perez and his clan for not only knocking a women for supporting straight marriage but for all the fags and feminist for all the hate they cause.

You're just one big pile of ignorant shit, aren't you?

[jack sommerset]

You're just one big pile of ignorant shit, aren't you?

No

[whottt]

I actually agree with Manumaniac...any and all forms of discrimination are fair game when it comes to electing President, it's not a right to be President, it's a privilege. That said, some forms of discrimination are enormously stupid.

People that voted for Obama because he was black and for no other reason...that's fair.

Same principle, people didn't vote for him because he was black are no more racist or stupid than the people who did.

Different sides of the exact same coin.

[jack sommerset]

You're just one big pile of ignorant shit, aren't you?

I'm curious. What makes you ask such a ridiculous question. The fact I don't think u should vote on color. Keeping up with our laws on who comes into our country or I think fags are disgusting.

[jack sommerset]

People that voted for Obama because he was black and for no other reason...that's fair.

:lol That is racist. Picking a person to perform a job on color alone is plain and simple racist.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I'm curious. What makes you ask such a ridiculous question. The fact I don't think u should vote on color. Keeping up with our laws on who comes into our country or I think fags are disgusting.

The fact that you think people shouldn't be allowed to vote on color and the fact that you think you should have any fucking say on who does what to whom and in what manner, in the privacy of their own home. Trust me, you're on big pile of ignorant shit.

[Winehole23]

Should the media attack innocent kids of politicians. No.I agree with this. Families should be off-limits, and popular outrage over the relentless, burrowing focus on Palin's children, strikes me as well-founded, but ultimately harmless

Why? Because too many of the people who so passionately denounce it will defend it when they dislike the political target. For the media, there's no price to pay for lacking decorum and tact. Half of the audience will cheer, half will boo, and the media itself will cover the *controversy* it instigated. If the media gets away with being tacky it's because we're tacky too.

OTOH, Ms Palin would have done well to keep her family out of the spotlight instead of using them as stage props.

[jack sommerset]

OTOH, Ms Palin would have done well to keep her family out of the spotlight instead of using them as stage props.

Every politician parades their kids around. How did Palin do this anymore than any politician in US history?

[jack sommerset]

The fact that you think people shouldn't be allowed to vote on color and the fact that you think you should have any fucking say on who does what to whom and in what manner, in the privacy of their own home. Trust me, you're on big pile of ignorant shit.

Son.....You are the ignorant pile of shit here. "Um he is yellow, I like that color, I will vote for him" Way to use that big brain of yours.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Son.....You are the ignorant pile of shit here. "Um he is yellow, I like that color, I will vote for him" Way to use that big brain of yours.

You seriously don't get anything. Nobody here is saying voting on color is smart or even the right thing to do you imbecile. We're saying its not something you can outlaw. Get it? People vote who they want to vote.

[Winehole23]

Every politician parades their kids around. How did Palin do this anymore than any politician in US history?They had already been attacked. Keeping them out of the spotlight would have been the wiser course IMO, but of course she had every right to do what she did.

I wasn't saying that it was improper for Palin to use her family as campaign props; I just thought it showed bad judgment, if she really cared so much about their privacy.

[SonOfAGun]

BamBam's daughters were so well-spoken on Entertainment Tonight.

[Winehole23]

Who's BamBam?

[jack sommerset]

You seriously don't get anything. Nobody here is saying voting on color is smart or even the right thing to do you imbecile. We're saying its not something you can outlaw. Get it? People vote who they want to vote.

Are you fucking serious? Duh you arrogant dumb fuck. DUH! I never said you can or should outlaw it you stupid little man. I said it is not right. Do you understand you dumb motherfucker. Let me say it again another way. It is not fair you fucking turd to vote for a guy because of his color. If you think that is fair or right that makes you one fucking asshole. Fucking A you prick. Jump my shit for something I said next time. Do you get it or are you going to come back and act like a little drag queen and make up more shit I did not say. I can name call to asshole.

[SonOfAGun]

Who's BamBam?


Barack Hussein Obama.

[Winehole23]

BamBam's daughters were so well-spoken on Entertainment Tonight.If Obama lets them, that's his business, just like it was Sarah Palin's. I was just saying that it doesn't comport too well with protectiveness to put your kids front and center after they've already been attacked in the press.

With Obama's kids, this is not so much the case.

[Winehole23]

Was that your point, Sofa_G?

[whottt]

With Obama's kids, this is not so much the case.


And why you suppose that is genius?

[sook]

And why you suppose that is genius?

He is of the black race and any attack on lord barrack or his daughters is looked as racist.

[Winehole23]

And why you suppose that is genius?Race sensitivity no doubt plays a part, but I'll go out on a limb and say there's not much of a story there.

[Winehole23]

The sudden, unexpected nature of her selection as VP also has something to do with the disparity IMO. She was a relative unknown, unvetted by even McCain's campaign, so there was intense competition for scoops and a chaotic surge of information released all at once.

[sook]

Oh come on whinehole stop being so naive, we know how "innocent" little negro girls can really be.

[Winehole23]

Not my bailiwick, sook.

[Winehole23]

Maybe you can amplify a little bit.

[ploto]

Every politician parades their kids around. How did Palin do this anymore than any politician in US history?
It is that she chose to do so given her daughter's sensitive condition that I always questioned. I would have thought her motherly instincts would have been to protect her daughter from the inevitable scrutiny, especially given her stated views on the merits of abstinence only education. Instead of changing course and protecting Bristol as time went on, she seemed to parade her around even moreso. She seemed intent on somehow proving her daughter was doing fine by having her make appearances, but instead it just kept her in the public eye and then a viable target as an adult making speeches. She could no longer claim some immunity as Bristol is an adult person who is choosing herself to be a public figure. I have never heard or seen anything about any of the younger kids. I do not even know their names. We all know the Bush twins had their fair share of media attention and they, like Bristol, were adults choosing to act in a manner that kept the public interest.

[ChumpDumper]

And why you suppose that is genius?They haven't gotten knocked up yet.

[whottt]

He is of the black race and any attack on lord barrack or his daughters is looked as racist.

False...he's been gone after. His wife's been gone after. He and she are also of the black race and while they tried to paint those attacks racist, it doesn't really stick nor will that claim prevent future attacks.


The reason it has not happened is because by and large there is a level of decency that IMHO is pretty much instinctive from beings in a civilized society when it comes to children for the societies continued survival. Deliberately targeting them or considering their deliberate targeting as acceptable pretty much makes you the lowest form of life in a society.

Survival oriented decency. Decency that Sarah Palin has not been shown, because she is a political threat, and because attacking her kids is viewed as an expedient and effective way to force her from the political arena by turning her natural maternal instincts against her and into an advantage for those that wish to see her gone from the political arena, which is a great many liberals.

The people doing this are political extremists, whose political views supercede human decency. Politics is above living in an organized society to them, it's above being a human being to them.


And truthfully, it's a possible indicator of a rather steep decline of organized society in this country. It's definitely an idicator of a society that is fragmenting and on the verge of a cultural split.

More to the point, you take a look round the world, in any country, in any region of the world where children being preferred targets is considered acceptable by it's own culture, and I will show you a shithole bearing little or no resemblance to the civilized world and where human life has little or no meaning.

Anyone that considers children a legitimate target, the most innocent of us, of any society, the future of us, of every society, is the absolute lowest element of that society. Whether they are pedophiles or child killers, or abusers...or political extremists.

If they dehumanize these kids, or excuse it, they are worse than the murderer, the thief, the liar, the serial killer, the prostitute, the vagrant, they are basically animals and in fact, inferior to many animals in many ways.


I say this right now, any of these guys that have gone after her kids repeatedly and done so for political gain, anyone that has excused it, they are the bottom rung of this civilization and representative of it's decline. They are far and away and beyond all doubt the bottom rung of politics in this country.


You know sook, I know you consider me to have a rather extremist view on the ME, but really I have my reasons for it...

I see Sunni Islamacists that hole up in school houses, I do not want to understand these people or co-exist with them, they are a societal cancer.

I see a government that considers the legal age for execution to be 9, and I know that I have a seen a government that should never be accepted by anyone.

And finally...when I see a culture that considers it acceptable to indoctrinate their children to strap bombs to themselves, and in fact encourages it with financial reward for the families and propaganda in their cartoons, I know I am looking at culture that is not long for this world. I do not find them the sympathetic party in a conflict, I find them to be the fucked in the head party in a conflict, and their cries of their children dying ring a little false to me becuase I know they themselves make their children targets, and the first time they encouraged one to strap a bomb to themself in civillian clothing and detonate it, they made every child in their culture a legitimate and valid military target for those they are at war with. Which is pretty fucking stupid if you ask me...it's also renders their chances of victory in that conflict pretty much non-existent.

The culture that safeguards it's women and children is going to win the conflict about 90% of the time, all things being equal, and especially if they are inequal to the benefit of the culture that defends it's young.

So by all means keep going after the children, it draws the lines between the humans and the animals, and makes it clear to me which side I need to be on.

I can't imagine that approcach is going to win many new converts, and the converts it wins aren't the sort you really want to be winning anyway, they're ones that speed up the decline.

[ploto]

^ I think it really is not all that complicated. The reaction to Bristol Palin was not so different from the one to Jamie Spears.

[whottt]

They haven't gotten knocked up yet.

They went after Bristol Palin before they knew she was knocked up.

[whottt]

^ I think it really is not all that complicated.

And considering you are a poster whose primary intent on a sports message is bragging about the size of your tits to any and all audiences, I really wouldn't expect you to think it's all that complicated Ploto.



The reaction to Bristol Palin was not so different from the one to Jamie Spears.

Except for the fact that they went after her before they knew she was pregnant, because her mom was given a VP nomination.

And that's not the only one of her kids they've gone after.

[ChumpDumper]

Really?

Can I have some links to those?

[whottt]

vague and stupid chump code

Links to what?

[balli]

Idiot, links proving "they" went after Bristol and the dumb bitch's other kids. Before her covered up pregnancy was exposed, that is.

[ChumpDumper]

To the pre-pregnancy attacks that you have been whining about your previous two posts.

Sorry you need your own thoughts spelled out to you.

Ha ha.

[ChumpDumper]

Idiot, links proving "they" went after Bristol and the dumb bitch's other kids. Before her covered up pregnancy was exposed, that is.Ha ha.

Should we get a total of people who didn't get this one too?

The idiot count from the last one is still 1 (whottt).

[Winehole23]

If you say the press went after Bristol before they knew she was pregnant, you should be able to back that up with relevant links.

If they went after Palin's other kids, again it's on you to give support for the claim.

[ChumpDumper]

If you say the press went after Bristol before they knew she was pregnant, you should be able to back that up with relevant links.

If they went after Palin's other kids, again it's on you to give support for the claim.Could you tell me if you understood me when I posted this:
Really?

Can I have some links to those?

[Wild Cobra]

If you say the press went after Bristol before they knew she was pregnant, you should be able to back that up with relevant links.

If they went after Palin's other kids, again it's on you to give support for the claim.
You don't remember them trying to say Sarah's youngest son was actually Brisol's son, that it was a cover up of a teen pregnancy?

[Ignignokt]

http://ktracy.com/?p=2068

this is pretty early indication of the left wing blogosphere fishing for dirt on Palin's children. Sarah didn't make a public announcement of Bristol's pregnancy, it was the media who probed into the personal life of bristol.

Daily Kos.

here's whott's theme backed up with sources, and time stamps.


SMEAR - Sarah Palin faked her pregnancy; Trig is actually Bristol's child
FACT: Of all the wild accusations that emerged in the four days following Sarah Palin's VP nomination, this was undoubtedly the most unbelievable of all.

This story seems to have originated in the imagination of Daily Kos diarist Inky99, who posted "Palin's faked "pregnancy"? Covering for teen daughter?" at Daily Kos on August 29. The evidence? Sarah Palin "simply doesn't look pregnant" in photographs taken before Trig was born.

From there, a firestorm of speculation and mockery swept through Daily Kos and other liberal fever swamp blogs -- Bristol Palin had allegedly "disappeared" for months, Sarah Palin was wearing a "pregnant suit" for photo ops, and so on. Michael Moore said, "Show Us The DNA." Several more mainstream sources, including Canadian television and the London Times, mentioned the Sarah/Bristol pregnancy rumor.

Curiously, this rumor was circulating concurrently with the "Sarah Palin neglected proper pre-natal care" rumor. The fact that each of the two rumors invalidated the other seemed to be lost on the minions of the unhinged left.

The following week, the Palin family publicly announced that Bristol was in fact five months pregnant with the child of her long-time boyfriend, Levi Johnston. According to the NY Daily News, Bristol's pregnancy was an open secret back in Wasilla, Alaska.

A pregnant Bristol and her boyfriend appeared onstage with Sarah Palin at the RNC convention on Sept. 3. By that time, embarrassed liberals were already trying to stuff their previous demands for paternity tests and DNA evidence down the collective memory hole.
http://mikesnoise.typepad.com/palin_smears_debunked/sarah-palin-faked-pregnancy.html

[whottt]

To the pre-pregnancy attacks that you have been whining about your previous two posts.

Now that's a little more like it. I knew you could do it.





Sorry you need your own thoughts spelled out to you.




For all I knew you wanted links to Ploto bragging about the size of her tits.



Ha ha

I don't think I'm going to give you those links, for the simple reason that I know you were in fact participating in political discourse on this forum at the very time the offending slander was originally posted. Not to mention the others.

[ChumpDumper]

That's what you guys are talking about?

Ha ha.

[whottt]

You don't remember them trying to say Sarah's youngest son was actually Brisol's son, that it was a cover up of a teen pregnancy?

Try not to take this the wrong way, but after your statements on racism regarding black Democrats I'd just as soon you help the other guys out...I can take care of this on my own.

[ChumpDumper]

I mean really -- the speculation from a couple of loons was that she was previously knocked up.

A week later it turns out she was currently knocked up.

The only thing they got wrong was the verb tense.

[whottt]

Idiot, links proving "they" went after Bristol and the dumb bitch's other kids. Before her covered up pregnancy was exposed, that is.

Balli is just as stupid as ballijuana ever was.

[balli]

Great, don't care, got those links yet, or your dumb ass still trying to figure out the meaning of a rather straight-forward question? Idiot.

[sook]

False...he's been gone after. His wife's been gone after. He and she are also of the black race and while they tried to paint those attacks racist, it doesn't really stick nor will that claim prevent future attacks.


The reason it has not happened is because by and large there is a level of decency that IMHO is pretty much instinctive from beings in a civilized society when it comes to children for the societies continued survival. Deliberately targeting them or considering their deliberate targeting as acceptable pretty much makes you the lowest form of life in a society.

Survival oriented decency. Decency that Sarah Palin has not been shown, because she is a political threat, and because attacking her kids is viewed as an expedient and effective way to force her from the political arena by turning her natural maternal instincts against her and into an advantage for those that wish to see her gone from the political arena, which is a great many liberals.

The people doing this are political extremists, whose political views supercede human decency. Politics is above living in an organized society to them, it's above being a human being to them.


And truthfully, it's a possible indicator of a rather steep decline of organized society in this country. It's definitely an idicator of a society that is fragmenting and on the verge of a cultural split.

More to the point, you take a look round the world, in any country, in any region of the world where children being preferred targets is considered acceptable by it's own culture, and I will show you a shithole bearing little or no resemblance to the civilized world and where human life has little or no meaning.

Anyone that considers children a legitimate target, the most innocent of us, of any society, the future of us, of every society, is the absolute lowest element of that society. Whether they are pedophiles or child killers, or abusers...or political extremists.

If they dehumanize these kids, or excuse it, they are worse than the murderer, the thief, the liar, the serial killer, the prostitute, the vagrant, they are basically animals and in fact, inferior to many animals in many ways.


I say this right now, any of these guys that have gone after her kids repeatedly and done so for political gain, anyone that has excused it, they are the bottom rung of this civilization and representative of it's decline. They are far and away and beyond all doubt the bottom rung of politics in this country.


You know sook, I know you consider me to have a rather extremist view on the ME, but really I have my reasons for it...

I see Sunni Islamacists that hole up in school houses, I do not want to understand these people or co-exist with them, they are a societal cancer.

I see a government that considers the legal age for execution to be 9, and I know that I have a seen a government that should never be accepted by anyone.

And finally...when I see a culture that considers it acceptable to indoctrinate their children to strap bombs to themselves, and in fact encourages it with financial reward for the families and propaganda in their cartoons, I know I am looking at culture that is not long for this world. I do not find them the sympathetic party in a conflict, I find them to be the fucked in the head party in a conflict, and their cries of their children dying ring a little false to me becuase I know they themselves make their children targets, and the first time they encouraged one to strap a bomb to themself in civillian clothing and detonate it, they made every child in their culture a legitimate and valid military target for those they are at war with. Which is pretty fucking stupid if you ask me...it's also renders their chances of victory in that conflict pretty much non-existent.

The culture that safeguards it's women and children is going to win the conflict about 90% of the time, all things being equal, and especially if they are inequal to the benefit of the culture that defends it's young.

So by all means keep going after the children, it draws the lines between the humans and the animals, and makes it clear to me which side I need to be on.

I can't imagine that approcach is going to win many new converts, and the converts it wins aren't the sort you really want to be winning anyway, they're ones that speed up the decline.
Can't say I dissagree with anything you posted.

Modern islamic extremism only has itself to blame and I think all the mullahs should just be cleaned off the streets. But at the same time I can't advocate Israel's over aggression even though at times, it is warranted.

Also yea, families should be off limits on BOTH sides. That doesn't excuse Ms Palin's stupidity in reference to them however.

[Ignignokt]

I mean really -- the speculation from a couple of loons was that she was previously knocked up.

A week later it turns out she was currently knocked up.

The only thing they got wrong was the verb tense.

Somebody didn't read the articles.

[sook]

Somebody didn't read the articles.

:lol

[whottt]

I mean really -- the speculation from a couple of loons was that she was previously knocked up.

And the National media took it and ran with.


A week later it turns out she was currently knocked up.

The only thing they got wrong was the verb tense.

And it had absolutely no purpose except political gain against an extremely well recieved VP nomination that was considered a threat to Obama's momentum.

And finally, it had jack shit to do with the Presidential election, Bristol Palin is not running for President.

[ChumpDumper]

And the National media took it and ran with.Really? I'm sure you have all the links to those stories then. I saw none at the time. I saw the KOS lunacy, dismissed it in the thread and that was the end of it for me.

Please give me the links to the myriad national media outlets that "ran with it."

[whottt]

Great, don't care, got those links yet, or your dumb ass still trying to figure out the meaning of a rather straight-forward question? Idiot.

It is kind of cool that I made you change your name...what a colossal pussy you must be.

[sook]

I mean really -- the speculation from a couple of loons was that she was previously knocked up.

A week later it turns out she was currently knocked up.

The only thing they got wrong was the verb tense.

That's a bit insensitive.

The only problem I have with it is that Ms. All-I-Preach-Is-Abstinence was her mom.

[ChumpDumper]

Somebody didn't read the articles.I read this one.

http://mikesnoise.typepad.com/palin_smears_debunked/sarah-palin-faked-pregnancy.html

What am I missing?

[balli]

And finally, it had jack shit to do with the Presidential election, Bristol Palin is not running for President.

She was not running, but her mom was running as a potential POTUS. And a pregnant Bristol was advocating her bitch mother's abstinence only policy, on behalf of her bitch mother; on behalf of her bitch mother's political aspirations. At that point, the slut's fair game. If they didn't want Bristol's personal life ripped into, they shouldn't have made her pregnant ass the face of their abstinence only sex-ed policy; a policy spelled out for the purposes of the presidential election. Idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

That's a bit insensitive.I'm an insensitive person.


The only problem I have with it is that Ms. All-I-Preach-Is-Abstinence was her mom.It's to their credit that neither Bristol's nor Sarah's child was aborted -- but one is free to question Sarah's parenting and family planning stances at that point, as those were some of her selling points.

[whottt]

Modern islamic extremism only has itself to blame and I think all the mullahs should just be cleaned off the streets. But at the same time I can't advocate Israel's over aggression even though at times, it is warranted.

Bottom line is that they face a superior opponent in terms of arms and finances and strapping bombs to their kids is never going to gain much sympathy...the whole strapping bombs things is pretty much a bad strategy.

The other option to garner support is to become a better strategic ally than Irael is....which would require a shevling of that whole death to America concept.

[sook]

I'm an insensitive person.

It's to their credit that neither Bristol's nor Sarah's child was aborted -- but one is free to question Sarah's parenting and family planning stances at that point, as those were some of her selling points.

That shows that she can be equated to someone of high moral characted. More often than not I have supported the libs on this board but I'm beginning to wonder if that was the reason she resigned too.


No reason make remarks such as "The slut is fair game," you are only assimilating yourself into the dirty game of politics.

[whottt]

Really? I'm sure you have all the links to those stories then. I saw none at the time. I saw the KOS lunacy, dismissed it in the thread and that was the end of it for me.

Uh then you must have missed the entire announcing her daughter Pregnant thing...since it was a direct rebuttal to the rumors being propagated by the National Media that Trig was Bristol's son.





Please give me the links to the myriad national media outlets that "ran with it."
I'm going to assume that since you know her daughter was Pregnant, that you also at some point saw those rumors on the National Media since the revelation came pretty much a day or so after those rumors hit the MSM...you're just too fucking stupid to remember it.

[sook]

Bottom line is that they face a superior opponent in terms of arms and finances and strapping bombs to their kids is never going to gain much sympathy...the whole strapping bombs things is pretty much a bad strategy.

The other option to garner support is to become a better strategic ally than Irael is....which would require a shevling of that whole death to America concept.

Right, but what you have to understand is that these people as a whole are pretty archaic. All religons have had their period of bloody order, and Islam is having its right now. Its a pretty young religon and these orthodox muslims will interpret the Quran as irrationally as possible, not realizing times have changed.

[ChumpDumper]

That shows that she can be equated to someone of high moral characted. More often than not I have supported the libs on this board but I'm beginning to wonder if that was the reason she resigned too.


No reason make remarks such as "The slut is fair game," you are only assimilating yourself into the dirty game of politics.Excuse me, when did I make that remark?

[sook]

Excuse me, when did I make that remark?

I was referring to bali.

[ChumpDumper]

Uh then you must have missed the entire announcing her daughter Pregnant thing...since it was a direct rebuttal to the rumors being propagated by the National Media that Trig was Bristol's son.So they ran with the story that she was pregnant -- after Palin told them.

That isn't what you were talking about.


I'm going to assume that since you know her daughter was Pregnant, that you also at some point saw those rumors on the National Media since the revelation came pretty much a day or so after those rumors hit the MSM...you're just too fucking stupid to remember it.No, I never saw any of those rumors outside of this board.

Please show me the links where the media was running with the rumor Bristol mothered the Down's Syndrome baby before they were told the fact that she was pregnant.

[whottt]

She was not running, but her mom was running as a potential POTUS. And a pregnant Bristol was advocating her bitch mother's abstinence only policy, on behalf of her bitch mother; on behalf of her bitch mother's political aspirations. At that point, the slut's fair game. If they didn't want Bristol's personal life ripped into, they shouldn't have made her pregnant ass the face of their abstinence only sex-ed policy; a policy spelled out for the purposes of the presidential election. Idiot.


"balli" is very effeminate

It's funny watching you act like a bad ass with a name like balli.

Was fluffy already taken?

Pussy probably isn't.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

I was referring to bali.Ah, please direct it to him them.

[Ignignokt]

Chumpdumper is now just prancing around the fact he was ignorant.

I mean, he totally ignored the trig -bristol charges and minimalized it to the whole thing being about bristol being pregnant.

He's going to continue this for 5 more pages.

[Winehole23]

Could you tell me if you understood me when I posted this:Whottt asked for help. He didn't seem to get your straightforward request, so I parsed it for him. Sorry.

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdumper is now just prancing around the fact he was ignorant.

I mean, he totally ignored the trig -bristol charges and minimalized it to the whole thing being about bristol being pregnant.

He's going to continue this for 5 more pages.No, I acknowledged it. I commented on the KOS blog at the time.

I just want the proof that the national media "ran with it."

You can certainly provide me with that proof, right?

[sook]

Ah, please direct it to him them.

I added that bit in there to address everyone, sorry.

[balli]

No reason make remarks such as "The slut is fair game," you are only assimilating yourself into the dirty game of politics.
As far as I'm concerned this has nothing to do with politics. The bitch is completely done as a public office holder. I just think she, her family and her supporters represent the VERY worst in humanity; a microcosm of humanity's worst failings.

It's not a question of politics, it's a question of human worth. And not only are Palin, her family, her supporters, etc completely worthless as humans, in fact, I'd consider them a disease that's infecting the rest of us. So yeah, I'll call Bristol Palin a slut as much as I possibly can out of nothing but personal vehemence for her bitch mom's continued existence.

But, I'll whole-heartedly refute that the media has done so.

[Winehole23]

Really? I'm sure you have all the links to those stories then. I saw none at the time. I saw the KOS lunacy, dismissed it in the thread and that was the end of it for me.

Please give me the links to the myriad national media outlets that "ran with it."MSM didn't touch the Trig/Bristol nonsense, best I recall. I'd like to see the links too.

[balli]

Hey whottt, did you enjoy your fourth? Y'know sitting at home on the internet? Per usual. Your arms are too short to box ya fucking loser. Got a link yet, BTW?

[sook]

As far as I'm concerned this has nothing to do with politics. The bitch is completely done as a public office holder. I just think she, her family and her supporters represent the VERY worst in humanity; a microcosm of humanity's worst failings.

It's not a question of politics, it's a question of human worth. And not only are Palin, her family, her supporters, etc completely worthless as humans, in fact, I'd consider them a disease that's infecting the rest of us. So yeah, I'll call Bristol Palin a slut as much as I possibly can out of nothing but personal vehemence for her bitch mom's continued existence.

But, I'll whole-heartedly refute that the media has done so.

You are fully entitled to make that conjecture :).


To me she represents someone of a decent character, which goes a long way with today's politicians, its just her stupidity I can't coincide with.

[ChumpDumper]

MSM didn't touch the Trig/Bristol nonsense, best I recall. I'd like to see the links too.I mean it was ridiculous on its face. Palin would have been completely justified in complaining about it like she did the Letterman jokes --


-- if it had actually shown up in the mainstream media.


If it did, as many here claim, examples should be easy to find.

[whottt]

Right, but what you have to understand is that these people as a whole are pretty archaic. All religons have had their period of bloody order, and Islam is having its right now. Its a pretty young religon and these orthodox muslims will interpret the Quran as irrationally as possible, not realizing times have changed.


I've been saying that for years on this forum...in response to the liberals claim of fuck em their savages, I also like to point out that most of technological advances that lead to the rise of Western Civlizataion were in fact produced by Muslims at the height of the Ottoman Empire, and the societal ones pretty much began right there in Iraq long before Greece even knew what an alphabet was.

But the dominant voice in Islam we hear is not one denouncing Islamic terrorism, it's Islamic terrorism.

And no one that truly wants to help that reigion ol the world should be underminding attempts to RE-establish Democracy and representative government in that region of the world...I don't think that region of the world fucked itself...it had a great deal of help, and it's going to need a great deal of help to fix it, and pulling out of Iraq right after going would have made matters worse, and left the resulting portion of the population that didn't hate us for going in, hating us for leaving after the blowing the shit out of their country.

Regardless of our intentions in going in, corrupt or not, that doesn't mean the end result has to be corruption..we control that decision.

[balli]

In response to the liberals claim of fuck em their savages

Yeah, but us liberals are usually educated enough to spell it as, they're, idiot. :toast

[whottt]

I mean it was ridiculous on its face. Palin would have been completely justified in complaining about it like she did the Letterman jokes --


-- if it had actually shown up in the mainstream media.


If it did, as many here claim, examples should be easy to find.

Why don't you bump the thread and see....

[whottt]

Yeah, but us liberals are usually educated enough to spell it as, they're, idiot. :toast

Cool, maybe one day you'll figure out the purpose of quote marks.

In any case, I agree with the decision to focus on spelling smack, much more you're speed. :)

[sook]

I've been saying that for years on this forum...in response to the liberals claim of fuck em their savages, I also like to point out that most of technological advances that lead to the rise of Western Civlizataion were in fact produced by Muslims at the height of the Ottoman Empire, and the societal ones pretty much began right there in Iraq long before Greece even knew what an alphabet was.

But the dominant voice in Islam we hear is not one denouncing Islamic terrorism, it's Islamic terrorism.

And no one that truly wants to help that reigion ol the world should be underminding attempts to RE-establish Democracy and representative government in that region of the world...I don't think that region of the world fucked itself...it had a great deal of help, and it's going to need a great deal of help to fix it, and pulling out of Iraq right after going would have made matters worse, and left the resulting portion of the population that didn't hate us for going in, hating us for leaving after the blowing the shit out of their country.

Regardless of our intentions in going in, corrupt or not, that doesn't mean the end result has to be corruption..we control that decision.
The problem I have with an attempt to re establish any type of democracy is that these same fanatics will try to paint this into some kind of imperialistic picture

Thats what the Al-Queda was doing trying to get fighters into Iraq till the Iraqis told them to stay the fuck out themselves.

Its a very complex situation, and certainly would be a gamble at this time. 4-5 years down the road I wouldn't mind helping the Iranian people out if there was some kind of uprising. Sadly though, with our economy and in an attempt to repair our foreign image, liberating the Iranians wouldn't be in our best interest as of right now.

[whottt]

Hey whottt, did you enjoy your fourth? Y'know sitting at home on the internet? Per usual. Your arms are too short to box ya fucking loser. Got a link yet, BTW?

balli

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Why don't you bump the thread and see....So you are saying you can't find any.

That's fine.

[balli]

In any case, I agree with the decision to focus on spelling smack, much more you're speed. :)
You made that decision when you decided to resort to ripping my handle and calling my mom a cunt because you didn't like what I had to say about Sarah Palin.

Just so long as we're clear on that, ya fucking friendless. Ass-ignorant. Shit-head.

[whottt]

The problem I have with an attempt to re establish any type of democracy is that these same fanatics will try to paint this into some kind of imperialistic picture

Thats what the Al-Queda was doing trying to get fighters into Iraq till the Iraqis told them to stay the fuck out themselves.

Its a very complex situation, and certainly would be a gamble at this time. 4-5 years down the road I wouldn't mind helping the Iranian people out if there was some kind of uprising. Sadly though, with our economy and in an attempt to repair our foreign image, liberating the Iranians wouldn't be in our best interest as of right now.

We don't have to do anything directly to Iran, there are two fledgling Democracies on it's major borders, the stronger they grow the weaker the Theocracy in Iran becomes for a variety of reasons, main one being the citizenry being able to look across the border at the humanitarian rights the Democracies grant their neighbors that they lack.

You're already seeing it now. I don't think there was ever a way to win a conventional war with Iran, especially without going into Iraq first. They have a huge military. We'd have a to kill a third of their population to defeat their army. If that's what you have to do you might as well just utilize an air war that sends the country back to the stone age and does absolutely nothing else, or a nuclear one.

The two Democracies surrounding it and the resistance movements are the least destructive ways to get rid of that Theocracy...


Smarter strategic minds than Bush and Cheney were behind the decision to go into Iraq first...the map tells the story.

[whottt]

You made that decision when you decided to resort to ripping my handle
You act like I had a choice in the matter...

Besides, based on your decision to change your name, you must have agreed with my initial criticism of your name and I see no reason why that wouldn't continue. I mean yeah you chose this one, but you also chose ballijuana and came around to my way of thinking on it.





and calling my mom a cunt because you didn't like what I had to say about Sarah Palin.

I have twice as much justification to call your mom a cunt as you do to call Sarah Palin a stupid bitch and her daughter a slut.

She's never done anything to you...meanwhile you have actually annoyed me.

Your mom is a cunt.



Just so long as we're clear on that



ya fucking friendless. Ass-ignorant. Shit-head.[/QUOTE]


LOL hilarious...maybe you should keep the name balli, the jokes is much much funnier that way.

[DMX7]

All I've got to say is you keep doing what you're doing Sarah Palin. You're awesome... for the Democrats. :toast

[jman3000]

All I've got to say is you keep doing what you're doing Sarah Palin. You're awesome... for the Democrats. :toast

Man, you are just so scared of her. Admit it.

[jman3000]

What would we do if Putin reared his head and flew over our airspace?

[ChumpDumper]

What would we do if Putin reared his head and flew over our airspace?Propaganda!

[whottt]

If ya'll aren't scared of her why do you expend so much energy attacking her and her kids?

Maybe going after women and children is just something in ya'lls nature I guess.

[whottt]

I am genuinely interested in the response to this...

[ChumpDumper]

Attacking her is fun because it makes you rush to her defense like you think she will notice.

[whottt]

Attacking her is fun because it makes you rush to her defense like you think she will notice.


But ya'll attack her whether I am in the forum or not...so no, I don't buy it.

[whottt]

I am genuinely interested in the response to this...

And I really shouldn't have expected much....

[ChumpDumper]

But ya'll attack her whether I am in the forum or not...so no, I don't buy it.We know you'll read them eventually. If you don't, maybe the next one. No big deal, it's just the internets.

Her other fans here have slightly less obvious crushes on her, so it's fun with them too.

[sook]

i think a 5 pg chump-whott argument is daily routine

[ploto]

And considering you are a poster whose primary intent on a sports message is bragging about the size of your tits to any and all audiences, I really wouldn't expect you to think it's all that complicated Ploto.

The only thing bigger than my boobs is my brain, so attempting to insult my intelligence does not work.

The issue I have had with Palin from the beginning has been that she could dish it out, but she could not take it. People for some reason liked her speech at the convention but I found her to be petty and sarcastic. For her to cry victim when she spent the campaign slinging mud at Obama and playing to the worst in people is hypocritical at best and pathetic at worst.

[whottt]

The only thing bigger than my boobs is my brain, so attempting to insult my intelligence does not work.

The issue I have had with Palin from the beginning has been that she could dish it out, but she could not take it. People for some reason liked her speech at the convention but I found her to be petty and sarcastic. For her to cry victim when she spent the campaign slinging mud at Obama and playing to the worst in people is hypocritical at best and pathetic at worst.

I don't remember her taking a single shot at Obama's kids during any speech.

[whottt]

We know you'll read them eventually. If you don't, maybe the next one. No big deal, it's just the internets.

Her other fans here have slightly less obvious crushes on her, so it's fun with them too.

Tiny pleasures for tiny minds...I get it now.

[ChumpDumper]

Tiny pleasures for tiny minds...I get it now.Being the puppetmaster is quite fun.

[DMX7]

Man, you are just so scared of her. Admit it.

Scared of her lofty resume as Wasilla mayor and a half-term governor?

Republican primary candidates aren't even scared of her now.

[whottt]

Being the puppetmaster is quite fun.


:lmao "dance puppet dance"

Seriously though, it's cool to know that sexist attacks and attacks against children are just shit you throw around on message boards to get a reaction out of people...

I guess that's why racists do it too.

[ChumpDumper]

Which sexist attacks and attacks against children were mine?

[Winehole23]

Palin can dish it out, but she can't take it.

Maybe she's not ready for primetime. She couldn't even finish her term as governor in Alaska, and her (verbal) self-presentation is still a mess.

Palin has a slender grasp of policy, a thin skin and doesn't think too well on her feet. Policy maybe she can learn well enough in a couple of years. The latter two problems, I doubt she can ever master.

[ElNono]

Palin can dish it out, but she can't take it.

Maybe she's not ready for primetime. She couldn't even finish her term as governor in Alaska, and her (verbal) self-presentation is still a mess.

Palin has a slender grasp of policy, a thin skin and doesn't think too well on her feet. Policy maybe she can learn well enough in a couple of years. The latter two problems, I doubt she can ever master.

You're just scared of her, and you forgot to attack her kids.

[ChumpDumper]

You're just scared of her, and you forgot to attack her kids.By not liking her, you just attacked her kids.

[Ignignokt]

By not liking her, you just attacked her kids.

You're def in troll mode. Nobody has accused you of attacking her kids. Why be a whiny puss about it?

[Winehole23]

Not mentioned so far is the fact that this is the second political office Palin has quit (http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/background/story/513761.html).

[Winehole23]

She also went to five different colleges.

[DMX7]

Not mentioned so far is the fact that this is the second political office Palin has quit (http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/background/story/513761.html).

Brah, that's just because she found a higher calling... advancing her career.

[Winehole23]

Does Sarah Palin have trouble following through on things?

[ChumpDumper]

you're def in troll mode. Nobody has accused you of attacking her kids. Why be a whiny puss about it?
:lmao "dance puppet dance"

seriously though, it's cool to know that sexist attacks and attacks against children are just shit you throw around on message boards to get a reaction out of people...

I guess that's why racists do it too.rif

[whottt]

Which sexist attacks and attacks against children were mine?
The ones you claimed ownership of when you responded to my question with the collective we.

Or to put it another way, every single time you call her a "dumb bitch" which I am almost certain you have called her at some point, you are a using a gender derogatory slur. Simply replace it with a racial slur and direct it at Obama and you have the racial equivalent, just a more acceptable one when directed at a woman.

But hey..what's the problem, she can't hear you, right?

[ElNono]

I suspect more and more her brain is wired the same way she expresses herself. She can't finish a sentence before steering somewhere else.

[ChumpDumper]

The ones you claimed ownership of when you responded question with the collective we.So I never did it myself and you could never prove it, you just want to be a cunt about it.

Cool.


Or to put it another way, every single time you call her a "dumb bitch" which I am almost certain you have called her at some point, you are a using a gender derogatory slur. Simply replace it with a racial slur and direct it at Obama and you have the racial equivalent, just a more acceptable one.

But hey..what's the problem, she can't hear you, right?I would like to see where I have called her a dumb bitch. Surely you can provide a link to that as quickly as you provided the link to the mainstream media's "running with" the fake pregnancy rumor.

You're still working on that, aren't you?

[whottt]

rif

I have a pretty lengthy ignore list going back several years.

[ChumpDumper]

I have a pretty lengthy ignore list going back several years.Is he on yours or are you on his?

[ElNono]

Brah, that's just because she found a higher calling... advancing her career.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/66/hellojesus.jpg

[Ignignokt]

Palin can dish it out, but she can't take it.

Maybe she's not ready for primetime. She couldn't even finish her term as governor in Alaska, and her (verbal) self-presentation is still a mess.

Palin has a slender grasp of policy, a thin skin and doesn't think too well on her feet. Policy maybe she can learn well enough in a couple of years. The latter two problems, I doubt she can ever master.

Wow, you and that pretentious know it all Extra Stout expected her to basically say "I quit because i can't take it anymore."

She more than likely quit because she wanted to run for '012. She tried not to hint that, and also provide good reasons why stepping down isn't such a bad thing.

1. She accomplished all her goals

2. She can no longer defend herself if she's tied down in Juneu Alaska, now she can raise more money, tour the lower 48 and raise money.

3. She is under constant attacks from the media over little things, and she has to defend herself, her family, and frivolous litigation. The office of Alaska has become a circus because, too many people are focused on bringing her down. Her electorate was mad at palin for not focusing on the state Governorship. Stepping down made the most sense for the constituents and her. It was a win win for anybody. She has done enough for alaska, and she left the state of alaska in a better position than her predecessor.

This whole thing about leaving Alaska high and dry is pure politcal posturing.

She tried to deliver the best motivations without sounding real vain. Without sounding like "hey i got to step down because i have better things to do."

She said she was going to continue to fight in otherways. She didn't say she was hiding or running away. And she knows the media will follow.

[Winehole23]

^^^That sort of higher calling (to El Nono) she would do well to keep under wraps for the time being.

[Ignignokt]

I suspect more and more her brain is wired the same way she expresses herself. She can't finish a sentence before steering somewhere else.

Or she was hiding her real intentions.

I would like to see you give a concession speech under a magnifying glass.

[ChumpDumper]

I think a Fox News show is kind of unavoidable at this point. A weekly one would allow her to still do all the fundraising and Iowa/New Hampshire asskissing she would need to do.

[ElNono]

Or she was hiding her real intentions.

I would like to see you give a concession speech under a magnifying glass.

Why would she do that? Like you said, she'll be under the magnifying glass no matter what she does.

[Ignignokt]

I would like to see where I have called her a dumb bitch. Surely you can provide a link to that as quickly as you provided the link to the mainstream media's "running with" the fake pregnancy rumor.

You're still working on that, aren't you?

The link was provided. You ignored that part or ommitted it. It's hard to argue with a douche who never claims anything he says, and misqoutes other people intentionally.

[Ignignokt]

Why would she do that? Like you said, she'll be under the magnifying glass no matter what she does.

Good question, she should have said.. "I'm quitting because i'm running for president."

dense. so dense.

[ChumpDumper]

The link was provided. You ignored that part or ommitted it. It's hard to argue with a douche who never claims anything he says, and misqoutes other people intentionally.No, there wasn't anything about the US mainstream media's running with it in the article I copied the link to. It said something about Canada and London, and I don't count that as the US mainstream media or "running with it."

Let me know which other one did -- if it did.

Thanks.

[Ignignokt]

No, there wasn't anything about the US mainstream media's running with it in the article I copied the link to.

Let me know which other one did -- if it did.

Thanks.

You didn't ask for proof that the mainstream media ran with it, you wanted proof of the media running with the whole trig bristol rumors.

I did provide proof that media, being well known blogosphere and others ran with the story.

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't ask for proof that the mainstream media ran with it, you wanted proof of the media running with the whole trig bristol rumors.

I did provide proof that media, being well known blogosphere and others ran with the story.No that's not what I asked for.

Sorry, you just don't read well at all.

[Ignignokt]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/archive/236/news/2008/08/30/were_going_with_the_rumor_sara_1_8598.html

here's the huffington post running with it aug 30th.

[whottt]

So I never did it myself and you could never prove it, you just want to be a cunt about it.

Cool.


LOL you gotta be fucking kidding me.




I would like to see where I have called her a dumb bitch. Surely you can provide a link to that as quickly as you provided the link to the mainstream media's "running with" the fake pregnancy rumor.


You know what...I bet you I can find you calling her bitch. I think I will look for that one...if not I can just find you agreeing with boutons, he calls her a bitch every time he mentions her name, and I don't recall you ever saying a word about it.

Hopefully I can find it, it's been a while since you melted down good.






You're still working on that, aren't you?

Uh, actually no.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/archive/236/news/2008/08/30/were_going_with_the_rumor_sara_1_8598.html

here's the huffington post running with it aug 30th.Not mainstream.

[Ignignokt]

No that's not what I asked for.

Sorry, you just don't read well at all.

:lol, right. You didn't ask for proof that the MSM did anything, this was your vague request, which you then now claimed was a specific request for MSM malpractice.

Chumpdumper exposed again.


Really?

Can I have some links to those?

[ChumpDumper]

LOL you gotta be fucking kidding me.No, you're a cunt.



You know what...I bet you I can find you calling her bitch. I think I will look for that one...if not I can just find you agreeing with boutons, he calls her a bitch every time he mentions her name, and I don't recall you ever saying a word about it.

Hopefully I can find it, it's been a while since you melted down good.It's possible, I just don't remember it. I'll certainly own it if I did. You are so excited about the prospect I wish you well on your quest, cunt.

[whottt]

PS: I'm going to see Public Enemy first...so you better do a little searching and you know whatting yourself.

[ElNono]

Good question, she should have said.. "I'm quitting because i'm running for president."

dense. so dense.

I don't get it. What's so wrong about being honest (or appearing to be)? Isn't that exactly what voters are looking for?
Otherwise, this ruse would amount to 'politics as usual'.

[ChumpDumper]

Damn, you really can't read at all, Iggy.
And the National media took it and ran with.



And it had absolutely no purpose except political gain against an extremely well recieved VP nomination that was considered a threat to Obama's momentum.

And finally, it had jack shit to do with the Presidential election, Bristol Palin is not running for President.


Really? I'm sure you have all the links to those stories then. I saw none at the time. I saw the KOS lunacy, dismissed it in the thread and that was the end of it for me.

Please give me the links to the myriad national media outlets that "ran with it."Ignignokt exposed again.

[whottt]

No, you're a cunt.


It's possible, I just don't remember it. I'll certainly own it if I did.

:lmao the last time I busted you with your own quote you went into like a week long meltdown calling me a liar every time I posted...it was fucking awesome. And you didn't own shit. You never do. That's why I don't bother looking for links..



You are so excited about the prospect I wish you well on your quest, cunt.

:lmao I am excisted about it because the response to that Ron Mercer at PG quote was fucking awesome.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao the last time I busted you with your own quote you went into like a week long meltdown calling me a liar every time I posted...it was fucking awesome. And you didn't own shit. You never do. That's why I don't bother looking for links..So this means you aren't going to look for it?

It's very possible I called her a dumb bitch.

I own the possibility.

[Ignignokt]

Damn, you really can't read at all, Iggy.

Ignignokt exposed again.

Wow. What a douche.

First of all, this was the first post you posted on that matter.http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3523657&postcount=318

i then posted this.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3523723&postcount=326

Nowhere in between those two post did you add that modifier, i complied perfectly with your request.

Don't hurt yourself now.

[Ignignokt]

So this means you aren't going to look for it?

It's very possible I called her a dumb bitch.

I own the possibility.

I don't think anyone is going to waste their time looking into 43,000 + post only to spend that much time, comeback to you claiming something different.

Why don't you just say, "I'm Chump, I've never called Palin anything that can be construed as sexist." But you wouldnt.

[Winehole23]

Wow, you and that pretentious know it all Extra Stout expected her to basically say "I quit because i can't take it anymore."She did basically say that.

"I'm not wired to perform under the pressure of politics as usual."


She more than likely quit because she wanted to run for '012. Pure speculation. My take was at least based on Palin's actual words. But if you're right, coming out so early will keep her in the media spotlight for over two years. So much exposure could induce Palin fatigue, and might be politically risky in other ways.


She tried not to hint that, and also provide good reasons why stepping down isn't such a bad thing.

1. She accomplished all her goalsList these, please.(See the link below if you need to crib.)


2. She can no longer defend herself if she's tied down in Juneu Alaska, now she can raise more money, tour the lower 48 and raise money.In other words, doing her job, one she ran for and Alaska elected her to do, is too damn inconvenient for Sarah Palin, so she quit. Oh, well. Now freedom from state ethics laws will free her up to capitalize on her fame without restraint. If that's what's best for Alaska, good riddance.


3. She is under constant attacks from the media over little things, and she has to defend herself, her family, and frivolous litigation. The office of Alaska has become a circus because, too many people are focused on bringing her down. Her electorate was mad at palin for not focusing on the state Governorship. Stepping down made the most sense for the constituents and her. It was a win win for anybody. She has done enough for alaska, and she left the state of alaska in a better position than her predecessor. She was under an ethical cloud before McCain picked her and the media circus descended. If that left Palin unable to focus on her job (other politicians can handle it, right?), maybe that would justify her quitting, but it hardly qualifies her for anything higher, still less for the nation's top office.


This whole thing about leaving Alaska high and dry is pure politcal posturing.Without any good explanation, it sure looks like she did. Palin gave no good reason (http://www.adn.com/opinion/view/story/852900.html) for it. And even George Will called her a quitter.


She tried to deliver the best motivations without sounding real vain. Without sounding like "hey i got to step down because i have better things to do."Some *higher calling*? I think she mentioned that too.


She said she was going to continue to fight in otherways. She didn't say she was hiding or running away. And she knows the media will follow.I thought she wanted to be left alone, to protect her family's privacy. Was I wrong about that? This conclusion cuts against your defense of Palin upstream.

[ChumpDumper]

Wow. What a douche.

First of all, this was the first post you posted on that matter.http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3523657&postcount=318

i then posted this.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3523723&postcount=326

Nowhere in between those two post did you add that modifier, i complied perfectly with your request.

Don't hurt yourself now.And I acknowledged it for the minor turd that it was. Then we moved on.


I don't think anyone is going to waste their time looking into 43,000 + post only to spend that much time, comeback to you claiming something different.You don't know whottt very well.


Why don't you just say, "I'm Chump, I've never called Palin anything that can be construed as sexist." But you wouldnt.I don't remember if I called her a dumb bitch. This is what we are talking about. If you don't care about it, then I don't see why you are spending so much time on it.

[ChumpDumper]

I think I would have been most inclined to call her a dumb bitch when it came to the clothing episode. You might want to check there.

[ploto]

Until proven otherwise, I will continue to believe she stepped down so she could cash in while the opportunity exists. If she waited 18 months, who knows if she could still generate that kind of income. I expect her higher calling to be paid speeches and appearances. She does not care about staying out of the public eye; she craves the attention. And when people realize she used her family as the socially acceptable excuse for her actions, what will they think of her then?

[ChumpDumper]

It is much easier to hawk a book if you aren't encumbered by a pesky state executive position.

[Winehole23]

Wow. What a douche.

First of all, this was the first post you posted on that matter.http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3523657&postcount=318

i then posted this.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3523723&postcount=326

Nowhere in between those two post did you add that modifier, i complied perfectly with your request.True, but you ignored this (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3523925&postcount=360).

[Winehole23]

One humor/tabloid crossposted in HuffPo and a couple of fringy blog links don't amount to a media storm, still less a sustained, amoral attack.

[Winehole23]

What we have instead is sustained submental bitching about a few scurrilous reports from a few fringy blogs.

[ChumpDumper]

They ran with it!

Run, media, run!

[Ignignokt]

Andrew Sullivan was one of the main proponents of the bristol triggate rumors.

That guy is well respected, and appeared on media, from cable news to casual gossip and shows like Real time w bill maher.

[Ignignokt]

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/palin-and-lauer.html

[Winehole23]

Andrew Sullivan. I can believe that. You're up to one MSM source, if The Atlantic can be counted.



EDIT: having followed the link, I see that it can't be counted. You're still striking out on the MSM triggate media storm.

[ChumpDumper]

Andrew Sullivan was one of the main proponents of the bristol triggate rumors.

That guy is well respected, and appeared on media, from cable news to casual gossip and shows like Real time w bill maher.the rumors buzzing across the Internets and the press corps are unfounded and unseemly. There must be plenty of medical records and obstetricians and medical eye-witnesses prepared to testify to Sarah Palin's giving birth to Trig. There must be a record of Bristol's high school attendance for the past year. And surely, surely, the McCain camp did due diligence on this. But the noise around this story is now deafening, and the weirdness of the chronology sufficient to rise to the level of good faith questions. So please give us these answers - and provide medical records for Sarah Palin's pregnancy - and put this to rest.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/things-that-mak.html

Doesn't sound like he's being a proponent at all.

[ChumpDumper]

A few hours later:

Here's a photo that looks like it confirms Palin's pregnancy, uploaded today, on what was the last day of the Alaska Legislature's Session, on April 13, 2008, five days before Trig Palin was born. More here. This seems to put the kibbosh on this, although it would still be good to have official confirmation from the McCain campaign, which should be easy enough to do. Just a simple confirmation from the doctor who was present at the birth.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/she-looks-pregn.html

It's diabolical how he becomes a proponent of this rumor by debunking it. Look at him running with it.

[Winehole23]

Doesn't sound like he's being a proponent at all.Matt Lauer was the primary target of the post, with McCain adviser Michael Goldfarb coming in second place.

[Ignignokt]

Here's Nov 8 and Andrew Sullivan who so called debunked the rumor, still wont let it go.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/palins-medica-1.html

[Ignignokt]

here's liberals of the huffington post joking about how ridiculous Andrew Sullivan was with pushing the rumors.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/archive/236/tag/Andrew+Sullivan+Bristol+Palin.html

[Winehole23]

Here's Nov 8 and Andrew Sullivan who so called debunked the rumor, still wont let it go.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/palins-medica-1.htmlSullivan kept asking for official confirmation. That's not tantamount to spreading the rumor.

[Ignignokt]

Here's Respectable Howard Kurtz fanning the flames..http://patterico.com/2008/09/24/howard-kurtz-just-airing-andrew-sullivans-palin-derangement-syndrome/

[Ignignokt]

Sullivan kept asking for official confirmation. That's not tantamount to spreading the rumor.

Right wing crazies are doing the same about the Obama birth certificate, i bet it's just an innocent probe.

Damn Winehole, you suck at staying objective.

[Winehole23]

here's liberals of the huffington post joking about how ridiculous Andrew Sullivan was with pushing the rumors.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/archive/236/tag/Andrew+Sullivan+Bristol+Palin.htmlFunny.




Since Sully's off-duty, we decided to come up with five coverup scenarios for him to push once he's back in action. If you have a favorite, let us know in the comments section:


This Baby was actually Sarah's baby- Sullivan and many others suspected that the details of Trig's birth were murky because Trig was actually Bristol's baby and Sarah decided to pass him off as her own to thwart the "unwed teen mom" stigma from her daughter. So maybe this time around, it was Bristol who pretended to have Sarah's baby. It's so obvious! To prove that Trig couldn't have been Bristol's, they shoved a pillow up Bristol's dress and said "See! She couldn't have delivered Trig because she's pregnant right now!" But they were going to need to produce a baby eventually for this plan to work, and if Bristol had just given birth to Trig she likely wouldn't have been able to get pregnant again right away. So Sarah got herself knocked up and managed to hide it by wearing lots of Spanx under her leather skirts. Now both Palins are raising each other's baby and everyone is none the wiser.



It's Willow's Baby - Bristol and Levi never even went out. Levi is Willow's guy and he knocked her up, but the age of consent laws being what they are (16 in Alaska), Levi could have been charged with statutory rape had it come out that he had fathered a child with Willow. So they stuck a pillow under Bristol's dress and Willow started wearing lots of Spanx to hide her bump. Look at the pictures of Levi and Bristol at the RNC. Do they look comfortable being with each other? And don't try to pull that "maybe they were just weirded out being on national TV and exploited by a major political party and whatnot." Take off the blinders!


Piper adopted - After spending hours licking baby Trig's head, Piper demanded a baby of her own. The Palins argued that Piper was too young to raise a child, but Piper threatened to reveal the truth about Trig being Bristol's, so the Palins agreed to adopt a baby for Piper and pretend that it was Bristol's so that no one would be alarmed that a baby was being raised by a 7-year-old who just likes the way babies taste.


It's Levi's baby, but from Sarah's fertilized egg implanted into Bristol's uterus - Not exactly sure why this would have happened, but we'll find out come 2012.



It's Andrew Sullivan's baby - Of course! Bristol is just Sully's surrogate mother! That's why he was so persistent in his allegations against the Palins, so we'd never suspect it! Remember, "To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle."

[ChumpDumper]

So he debunked it on September 1, and then he, what, rebunked it on November 8?

This is hardly the mainstream media onslaught that was described to me.

Nice try though.

[Ignignokt]

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31 Aug 2008 06:32 pm
Things That Make You Go Hmmm


Questions for the McCain-Palin campaign:
Where has Bristol Palin (far right, holding Trig, with a ring on her wedding finger) been for the past year? Has she been attending high school? Or was she absent because of infectious mononucleosis for between five and eight months, as is now being reported on the Internet?
Why would a 43 year old woman, on her fifth pregnancy, with a Down Syndrome child, after her amniotic fluid has started to leak, not go to the nearest hospital immediately, even if she was in Texas for a speech?
Why would she not only not go to the hospital in Texas, but take an eight-hour plane flight to Seattle and then Anchorage?
Why would she choose to deliver the baby not in the nearest major facility in Anchorage but at a much smaller hospital near her home-town?
Why did the flight attendants on the trip home say she bore no signs of being pregnant?
It strikes me as likely that there are reasonable answers to these questions - more reasonable than the only one given so far -
"You can't have a fish picker from Texas," said Todd -
and the rumors buzzing across the Internets and the press corps are unfounded and unseemly. There must be plenty of medical records and obstetricians and medical eye-witnesses prepared to testify to Sarah Palin's giving birth to Trig. There must be a record of Bristol's high school attendance for the past year. And surely, surely, the McCain camp did due diligence on this. But the noise around this story is now deafening, and the weirdness of the chronology sufficient to rise to the level of good faith questions. So please give us these answers - and provide medical records for Sarah Palin's pregnancy - and put this to rest. (See update.)
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[Winehole23]

Here's Respectable Howard Kurtz fanning the flames..http://patterico.com/2008/09/24/howard-kurtz-just-airing-andrew-sullivans-palin-derangement-syndrome/Also asking for official confirmation is fanning flames? That's a bit of a reach.

[Ignignokt]

So he debunked it on September 1, and then he, what, rebunked it on November 8?

This is hardly the mainstream media onslaught that was described to me.

Nice try though.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

how's asking to be convinced rebunking?

Dude stop, :lmao

That's like alex jones just wanting awnsers for building 7! lol!

[Ignignokt]

according to CD and Wineholes criteria.

Galileo is debunking 911 by asking questions to be awnsered.

[Winehole23]

Besides, I thought there was no fire.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

how's asking to be convinced rebunking?

Dude stop, :lmao

That's like alex jones just wanting awnsers for building 7! lol!He was asking for official verification of his admitted conclusion that the baby was Sarah's.

:lmao

Dude stop. It took you how many hours to find one dude who alluded to it three times, once explicitly saying she looked pregnant and the rumors should stop with official verification.

The entire mainstream media was running with it!
:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Ignignokt]

He was asking for official verification of his admitted conclusion that the baby was Sarah's.

:lmao

Dude stop. It took you how many hours to find one dude who alluded to it three times, once explicitly saying she looked pregnant and the rumors should stop with official verification.

The entire mainstream media was running with it!
:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

I'm not fanning the rumors about Obama's birth, i just want the hospital records, not the state certificate to authenticate Obama's birth. I want video too, you know white people film their pregnancies.

Just an american here asking questions.

WHy is the media afraid?

[ChumpDumper]

according to CD and Wineholes criteria.

Galileo is debunking 911 by asking questions to be awnsered.According to gtown's criteria, the entire SpursTalk board believes the official 9/11 explanation is false because Galileo does.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not fanning the rumors about Obama's birth, i just want the hospital records, not the state certificate to authenticate Obama's birth. I want video too, you know white people film their pregnancies.

Just an american here asking questions.

WHy is the media afraid?Don't you still want that?

Why is it in blue?

[Ignignokt]

what's the matter chump? i want all the videos of the pentagon on 911 to be released, just an american asking questions here.

I want an open investigation about 911.

Not fanning rumors or myths here just want authentication.

[Winehole23]

A few strained metaphors won't cover up your bogus examples, Iggy. All come from the internet, none from traditional (broadcast and print, i.e., mainstream) media.

[ChumpDumper]

what's the matter chump? i want all the videos of the pentagon on 911 to be released, just an american asking questions here.

I want an open investigation about 911.

Not fanning rumors or myths here just want authentication.Well you already believe the official 9/11 story is false because Galileo does.

[Ignignokt]

According to gtown's criteria, the entire SpursTalk board believes the official 9/11 explanation is false because Galileo does.

That's a horrible job at grasping straws. Try again.

[Ignignokt]

A few strained metaphors won't cover up your bogus examples, Iggy. All come from the internet, none from traditional (broadcast and print, i.e., mainstream) media.

Ofcourse you wont. Winehole only covers Winehole. That way he never loses.

[ChumpDumper]

A few strained metaphors won't cover up your bogus examples, Iggy. All come from the internet, none from traditional (broadcast and print, i.e., mainstream) media.Andrew Sullivan is the ENTIRE MEDIA!

Don't you get it?

There is nothing else!

[Winehole23]

Ofcourse you wont. Winehole only covers Winehole. That way he never loses.And that's just incoherent.

[Ignignokt]

Don't you still want that?

Why is it in blue?

Now, you're trying to forget how we do sarcasm here.

Anything to win! Chump Chump!

[ChumpDumper]

That's a horrible job at grasping straws. Try again.I agree you need to try again. That was a horrible job you did showing the massive mainstream media onslaught with the Bristol is Trig's mom rumor.

It was nonstop!

Widespread!

24/7!

[ChumpDumper]

Now, you're trying to forget how we do sarcasm here.

Anything to win! Chump Chump!Bo according to your logic you can't possibly believe the official 9/11 story.

Anything to win! gtown gtown!

[Ignignokt]

First chump asked for links.


he got them.

Then he asked for proof of mainstream media fanning the rumors.

He got Howard Kurtz, and Andrew Sullivan, one who writers for a well know publication The Atlantic, And the other a WaPo reporter.

Then now he's claiming that he wanted proof that the entire media was in on it. He didn't even exclude Fox!

In Chump's ever evolving request and positions, he's a winner in his own mind.

[ChumpDumper]

Three blog entries by one dude is not a mainstream media storm.

You failed.

You can try to argue the minutiae if you like, but the fact remains.

I didn't even see what Kurtz was doing to fan that rumor.

It was never an issue because it never came up in the actual mainstream media.

[Ignignokt]

I agree you need to try again. That was a horrible job you did showing the massive mainstream media onslaught with the Bristol is Trig's mom rumor.

It was nonstop!

Widespread!

24/7!

I didn't say there was a massive mainstream media onslaught. But go ahead.
You're good at lying and switching positions.

Nonstop!

Widespread!

24/7!

[Ignignokt]

Three blog entries by one dude is not a mainstream media storm.

You failed.

You can try to argue the minutiae if you like, but the fact remains.

I didn't even see what Kurtz was doing to fan that rumor.

It was never an issue because it never came up in the actual mainstream media.

Howard Kurtz and Andrew Sullivan are both the same dude? lol!

Didn't know this is what it would take to bring out the conspiracy nut in CD.:lmao

[Winehole23]

...

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't say there was a massive mainstream media onslaught. But go ahead.
You're good at lying and switching positions.

Nonstop!

Widespread!

24/7!It wasn't even your argument.

:lol

Damn, you don't know what was said here.

Nonstop!

[Ignignokt]

...

Dude, you're so page 13 and you have the wrong person.


Stay Objective Forum Ettiquette Cop!

We need your skills!

NonStop!

Widespread!

24/7!

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, you're so page 13 and you have the wrong person.Dude, you have the wrong argument.

We dealt with your bleating hours ago.

You picked up someone else's argument, then when it was proved wrong, you said that's not what you said!

No shit that isn't what you said.

[Ignignokt]

It wasn't even your argument.

:lol

Damn, you don't know what was said here.

Nonstop!

Thanks Chump for your admission that that wasn't my argument, even though you tried to fit it to be my argument previously and failed miserably.

It was even funnier that you had Winehole on your nuts..

Nonstop!

Widespread!

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[ChumpDumper]

Thanks Chump for your admission that that wasn't my argument, even though you tried to fit it to be my argument previously and failed miserably.Uh, no -- I acknowledged your little prattle as the nothing it was. I don't know why you thought you had to make someone else's argument but thanks for admitting it wasn't your argument after it was proven false. You ran away from it like a little pussy.

Nonstop!

Widespread!

24/7!
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[Winehole23]

Dude, you're so page 13 and you have the wrong person. I got tired and made a mistake. Big whup. Enjoy the *win*.

[Ignignokt]

Uh, no -- I acknowledged your little prattle as the nothing it was. I don't know why you thought you had to make someone else's argument but thanks for admitting it wasn't your argument after it was proven false. You ran away from it like a little pussy.

Nonstop!

Widespread!

24/7!
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You made 3 different request, one just for evidence of any trig bristol rumors, then for mainstream media evidence, and then you changed it to it being about the whole mainstream media.

So thank you for acknowledging that you argued Me, Whott, and a strawman.

And still got pwned in every possible way with Winehole by your side...

Nonstop!

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[Ignignokt]

I got tired and made a mistake. Big whup. Enjoy the *win*.

Enjoy the plaigirism of Jonah Goldberg, stealer!

[ChumpDumper]

pwned in what way?

I was provided with five blog entries (actually I looked up two of them), two of them talking about the other three and one of those debunked the rumor.

Hardly a mainstream media frenzy.

You are really bad at this.

Nonstop!

Widespread!

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[Winehole23]

Enjoy the plaigirism of Jonah Goldberg, stealer!Feel free to spread the lie. It's pretty easily debunked.

[ChumpDumper]

Feel free to spread the lie. It's pretty easily debunked.He'll probably debunk it himself unknowingly.

[Ignignokt]

pwned in what way?

I was provided with five blog entries, two of them talking about the other three and one of those debunked the rumor.

You are really bad at this.

:lol

You still spewing the Andrew sullivan debunking fallacy, it's sad because on any day rain or shine, you'll find Chump changing positions......


Widespread!

Nonstop!

24/7!
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[ChumpDumper]

You still spewing the Andrew sullivan debunking fallacy, it's sad because on any day rain or shine, you'll find Chump changing positions......Except he did debunk it. It's sad because on any day rain or shine, you'll find gtown making shit up and trying to defy reality with repeated bullshit.

Widespread!

Nonstop!

24/7!
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[Winehole23]

Last Activity: Today 02:24 AM
Current Activity: Viewing Thread Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother of Trig, but rather his Grandmother (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103947)

[Ignignokt]

Except he did debunk it. It's sad because on any day rain or shine, you'll find gtown making shit up and trying to defy reality with repeated bullshit.

Widespread!

Nonstop!

24/7!
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


So he debunked his own questions, only to comeback and debunk his own question he rose again, and then bitched as to why the media hasn't even raised questions... and i'm not even talking about Galileo! i'm talking bout Andrew Sullivan here and Chump is defending this guy.


I don't know if that is as sad as finding Winehole all up on Chump on his knees everyday..

Widespread!

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lolololololololol!

[ChumpDumper]

and then bitched as to why the media hasn't even raised questionsThanks for confirming there was no mainstream media activity concerning this.

You're very helpful.

Widespread!

Nonstop!

24/7!
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[Ignignokt]

Thanks for confirming there was no mainstream media activity concerning this.

You're very helpful.

Ack! wrong, that was a paraphrase of Andrew Sullivan.

Still trying to do whatever it takes for that win....

yada yada

24/7!

[Winehole23]

I don't know if that is as sad as finding Winehole all up on Chump on his knees everyday..

Widespread!

Nonstop!

24/7!

lolololololololol!I've not ever met Chumpy in person. But feel free to imagine anything you want. You can't stop going there, can you?



Buttsore!

24/7!

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lololololololol!

[whottt]

Godammit...

Here is your link to your National Media:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Kos


Anything else?

[ChumpDumper]

Ack! wrong, that was a paraphrase of AndrewSo you disagree with that?

How many mainstream news outlets reported the rumor of which Andrew bitched?

[Winehole23]

Kos is an avowedly partisan blog.

Fail.

[ChumpDumper]

Godammit...

Here is your link to your National Media:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Kos


Anything else?You said the national media ran with the rumor after the Daily Kos posted it.

[whottt]

You said the national media ran with the rumor after the Daily Kos posted it.

I don't recall saying that...I recall you saying a couple of loons posted it and I said then the National Media ran with it.

[whottt]

Kos is an avowedly partisan blog.

Fail.

Oh I see...you wanted an unbiased source, which one would you prefer? CNN or MSNBC?

The links to the sorts of media you want are out there...but I don't know why you expect there to be archival evidence when even the Daily Kos has removed the article.


I said nothing about other than National Media, I even reccomended you guys check out the original thread which I have now bumped for your persual, and just because I am most certainly smarter than you, the Daily Kos qualifies as National Media by any definition you want to use. In fact it qualifies as international Media, it's even got National and World journalists that write articles for it. More to the point I am making due to prevalence of elected officials that have written articles for it, including the leader of the fucking Senate and the fucking President of the United States of America, it's basically the social watering hole for the political party that controls two branches of our government, both houses of congress and the movement that just elected the President of the United States, it's practically government owned...

If that doesn't fit your definition of National, you are just fucking stupid.

[Winehole23]

Kos is a parochial organ. Calling it the national media is a reach.

[Winehole23]

Newsprint and TV are the national media, and they didn't touch it.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't recall saying that...I recall you saying a couple of loons posted it and I said then the National Media ran with it.:lol Of course you don't recall.

Where did the loons post it?

[Ignignokt]

TQQZZo6brWY

see the reaction when they bring the bristol rumors up.

But according to some, no one hardly ever heard of these nasty rumors.

[whottt]

Newsprint and TV are the national media

By your definition...but you're a whore and idiot. Your definition doesn't count.


and they didn't touch it.


Since even your partisan blog has removed it, I don't know why you would expect it to still be floating around "legitimate" news sources...


I'm not saying that it isn't...I'm just saying I just stuck the National Media straight up your dumb fucking ass.