Pick the best right now: Dirk vs KG

[DAF86]

Have you conducted a poll? You seem like you know this as fact.

There's no need for that. It's not even close. Everybody in the world know and care about the Olympics. While most of the people in the world don't give a fuck about the NBA.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Running water is fucking cool.


So are uncorrupted governments

[dirk4mvp]

While most of the people in the world don't give a fuck about the NBA.
Then why are all these over seas fucksticks trying to play in the NBA?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

While most of the people in the world don't give a fuck about the NBA.


I'm sure that's why a ton of Asian people post on Rocket sites.

[dickface]

While most of the people in the world don't give a fuck about the NBA.

China cares. And if China cares, then most of the people in the world care based on sheer numbers.

[LnGrrrR]

I would definitely take Dirk over Manu for the Hall of Fame. He is the best foreign NBA player in history, even though he has no rings.

Are you not counting Tim Duncan?

[Findog]

There's no need for that. It's not even close. Everybody in the world know and care about the Olympics. While most of the people in the world don't give a fuck about the NBA.

I guarantee you that while FIBA, US Men and Womens College Basketball and the ABA merit consideration, success in the NBA matters more than any of them.

[dickface]

Then why are all these over seas fucksticks trying to play in the NBA?

Yeah isn't the Euroleague title the Mt. Everest of basketball competition? Why is Manu wasting his time in the NBA? He should get HOF votes taken away on principle.

[Findog]

Are you not counting Tim Duncan?

Nope.

[dickface]

Are you not counting Tim Duncan?

Nobody counts Tim Duncan as a foreigner except dumbasses.

[Rogue]

There's no need for that. It's not even close. Everybody in the world know and care about the Olympics. While most of the people in the world don't give a fuck about the NBA.
It was team USA that didn't give a fuck about the 2004 olympics hold in Athens Greece, then the Argentinian team got the gold medal while USA only reaped a bronze. But no other team can even do shit once USA team get serious with the Olympics and poised to win the gold.

[KidCongo]

There's no need for that. It's not even close. Everybody in the world know and care about the Olympics. While most of the people in the world don't give a fuck about the NBA.

Olympics has like 40 different sports.

[dickface]

The Olympics made shit like "carry buckets of water" a sport just so that countries like Uganda feel good about themselves.

[DAF86]

I guarantee you that while FIBA, US Men and Womens College Basketball and the ABA merit consideration, success in the NBA matters more than any of them.

Go ask Manu (one of the few international players to win the NBA ring and the gold medal) what he cares about more.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yeah isn't the Euroleague title the Mt. Everest of basketball competition? Why is Manu wasting his time in the NBA? He should get HOF votes taken away on principle.


That's why I'm saying it's a JOKE Jordan and Robinson just made it.

[redzero]

Chinese people care about the NBA (or just Yao Ming). The best player on that 04 Argentinian team is not even a top 25 player in the NBA.

[Rogue]

Olympics has like 40 different sports.
Yup and the Kidd-led team USA could only add one gold to the medal this even though there were 12 guys on that team, while Michael Phelps got 8 himself.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Go ask Manu (one of the few international players to won the NBA ring and the gold medal) what he cares about more.


Go ask the HoF committee what they care about more.

[Findog]

Go ask Manu (one of the few international players to won the NBA ring and the gold medal) what he cares about more.

The HOF is still US and NBA-centric. I don't care what Manu thinks.

[dickface]

Aparently Argentina itself doesn't care too much about the Olympics, look at their pathetic medal count.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_count

Germany >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Argentina

[Rogue]

Chinese people care about the NBA (or just Yao Ming). The best player on that 04 Argentinian team is not even a top 25 player in the NBA.
So you hindered that 7'6 piece of **** still is a top 25 player in NBA, or has ever been among this range?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Are there:

1) More non-Americans that post in NBA forums?
2) More Americans that post in Euroleague forums?


hmmm

[redzero]

Yup and the Kidd-led team USA could only add one gold to the medal this even though there were 12 guys on that team, while Michael Phelps got 8 himself.

http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/michael_phelps_bong-500x666.jpg

And he was probably high at the time, too.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The HOF is still US


lies!

[Findog]

Also, while Manu might take more pride in winning a gold medal for his country, I highly doubt he would agree with the notion that a Gold Medal in basketball is harder or more of an achievement than winning an NBA championship.

[dickface]

Yup and the Kidd-led team USA could only add one gold to the medal this even though there were 12 guys on that team, while Michael Phelps got 8 himself.

Michael Phelps > Manu

[Rogue]

Aparently Argentina itself doesn't care too much about the Olympics, look at their pathetic medal count.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_count

Germany >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Argentina
The medal count is shit though. Even though Americans don't give a shit about that count, they still always ranked no.1 in most Olympics games prior to 08, where they got bored of that place and gave it to the country which really cared shit about that list.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Michael Phelps lock for the HoF!!!!

[dickface]

There's only one foreign player that you could debate would beat out Dirk as the "Greatest Foreign Player Ever" and that's Arvydas Sabonis.

If you want to include Manu in that discussion, he's maybe a distant 3rd, but probably not. He might be in the top 5 though. You still have Petrovic and V-Span to discuss, of course.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

There's only one foreign player that you could debate would beat out Dirk as the "Greatest Foreign Player Ever" and that's Arvydas Sabonis.

If you want to include Manu in that discussion, he's maybe a distant 3rd, but probably not. He might be in the top 5 though. You still have Petrovic and V-Span to discuss, of course.

And Pau Gasolina.

[dickface]

And Pau Gasolina.

True. Damn, Manu probably isn't top 5 greatest foreigner ever.

1. Sabonis
2. Dirk
3. Petrovic
4. Gasol
5. V-Span
6. Schrempf
7. Chris Anstey
8. Manu?

[Ghazi]

isn't hakeem a foreigner though :lol

[Findog]

True. Damn, Manu probably isn't top 5 greatest foreigner ever.

1. Sabonis
2. Dirk
3. Petrovic
4. Gasol
5. V-Span
6. Schrempf
7. Chris Anstey
8. Manu?

I would put Mike D'Antoni at 8 and Manu at 9.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

True. Damn, Manu probably isn't top 5 greatest foreigner ever.

1. Sabonis
2. Dirk
3. Petrovic
4. Gasol
5. V-Span
6. Schrempf
7. Chris Anstey
8. Manu?


Tim Duncan is from the Virgin Islands, chalk him up, and Steve Nash is from Canada. Not even top 10.

[redzero]

So you hindered that 7'6 piece of **** still is a top 25 player in NBA, or has ever been among this range?

Kobe
LeBron
Wade
Paul
Duncan
Dirk
KG (even though he is slipping)
Carmelo
Dwight
Steve Nash
Yao (even though his career might be over, and he once got only one rebound)
Durant
Granger
Carter
D-Will
Tony Parker
Paul Pierce
Bosh
Gasol
Stoudemire

I could list more, but you get the point. Manu might be in the 30s range when it comes to best player.

[dickface]

isn't hakeem a foreigner though :lol

he lost foreigner status when he had like 8 fun babies at the U of Houston.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

isn't hakeem a foreigner though :lol

As I already mentioned your sig is featuring an all time great foreigner M-V-Steve

[Findog]

isn't hakeem a foreigner though :lol

I think he's a US citizen.

[TDMVPDPOY]

There's only one foreign player that you could debate would beat out Dirk as the "Greatest Foreign Player Ever" and that's Arvydas Sabonis.

If you want to include Manu in that discussion, he's maybe a distant 3rd, but probably not. He might be in the top 5 though. You still have Petrovic and V-Span to discuss, of course.

wut?

[La Peace]

Manu Ginobili isn't the greatest foreign player on his team.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

wut?


V-Span, Da Troof of Europe.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Manu Ginobili isn't the greatest foreign player on his team.


:wow

forgot Parker, not even 3nd best foreigner on his team with Duncan and Parker factored in.

[Findog]

Speaking of Hakeem, who the fuck wrote this on his wiki page?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakeem_Olajuwon


The Dream Shake was extremely difficult to defend, much like the sky hook of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.[7] The Dream Shake's closest modern equivalent comes from Kevin Garnett, whose moves have less variety and include some perimeter action

Yeah, KG is a fucking wizard on the low block.

[DAF86]

http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2006/09/basketball-hall-of-fame-whos-in-recent.html

Read this you may learn something.

[dickface]

http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2006/09/basketball-hall-of-fame-whos-in-recent.html

Read this you may learn something.

we all know what a respected journalist "jay aych" is.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2006/09/basketball-hall-of-fame-whos-in-recent.html

Read this you may learn something.


:lmao great source, I'm sure "El Hombre" or whatever is credible.

[Findog]

http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2006/09/basketball-hall-of-fame-whos-in-recent.html

Read this you may learn something.

That article was written in September of 2006 and he doesn't even mention Dirk in the foreign players section. By that point, Dirk had already been to the Finals and established himself as the best foreign player of all time. Dirk was a lock for the HOF even then and that guy didn't mention him. Just some blogger's opinion.

[Rogue]

Some of these fuckers were dropped on their heads as children. Hakeem was better than all of these Euro faggots combined. Manu shouldn't even be mentioned in top 5.
But Hakeem hasn't been a foreign for a lot of years, and he even represented US to play the Olympics in Sydney.

[underdawg]

considering pure basketball skill and knowledge - Manu is king over all furiners and a lot of americanos tambien. And yes dumbasses - he will get in to the hof because of his success outside the NBA (sorry I didn't read the whole thread to figure out the schtick here.)

[dickface]

But Hakeem hasn't been a foreign for a lot of years, and he even represented US to play the Olympics in Sydney.

:lol that Lakerfan faggot is a step behind in the conversation, Rogue, so you'll have to excuse him.

[Rogue]

That article was written in September of 2006 and he doesn't even mention Dirk in the foreign players section. By that point, Dirk had already been to the Finals and established himself as the best foreign player of all time. Dirk was a lock for the HOF even then and that guy didn't mention him. Just some blogger's opinion.
Maybe dirk has been customized a lot and is no longer considered a foreigner like Manu and that 7'6 piece of ****.

[DAF86]

Also, while Manu might take more pride in winning a gold medal for his country, I highly doubt he would agree with the notion that a Gold Medal in basketball is harder or more of an achievement than winning an NBA championship.

For every national team except the US NT, winning the olympics is harder than winning the NBA.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Manu is king over all furiners and a lot of americanos tambien.


This is an NBA thread, try speaking English. Tambien = also.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

the olympics is harder than winning the NBA.

why don't you post in some olympic forum rather than an NBA forum if the Olympics are so much better.

[Findog]

For every national team except the US NT, winning the olympics is harder than winning the NBA.

Sorry, an Olympic Gold Medal is not as impressive as an NBA Championship. The NBA is a higher level of play.

[dickface]

For every national team except the US NT, winning the olympics is harder than winning the NBA.

your point being? (besides admitting that foreign basketball sucks)

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Sorry, an Olympic Gold Medal is not as impressive as an NBA Championship. The NBA is a higher level of play.


Only in America. Outside of America NBA is a joke.

[DAF86]

That article was written in September of 2006 and he doesn't even mention Dirk in the foreign players section. By that point, Dirk had already been to the Finals and established himself as the best foreign player of all time. Dirk was a lock for the HOF even then and that guy didn't mention him. Just some blogger's opinion.

Read this part dude:

"Don't forget were dealing with the Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall-o-Fame. People tend to overlook this when they talk about candidates. There are many college coaches, women coaches (Summit), contributors (Dave Gavitt), women players (Cheryl Miller, Ann Meyers) and foreign players & coaches inducted in Springfield.

This can open up a whole can of worms for the committee with evaluating NBA players. What do you do with guys who had legendary college careers but had solid NBA careers at best? (see Laettner) What do you do with foreign players who come over to play in the NBA? Alot of the time these foreign players have had solid NBA careers, but if they stayed over in Europe they would have been legendary & possible Hall candidates like Kresmir Cosic or Dino Meneghin (see Divac). An even tougher case is what to do with a guy like Detlef Schrempf (who played his whole college career & some of high school in the US) ? See these are some of the problems that crop up when you don't just have an NBA-only Hall of Fame."

[Rogue]

This is an NBA thread, try speaking English. Tambien = also.
yo habla espanol, and it's my freedom to speak half inglis and some espanol for the other half. furiners = foreigners

[dickface]

Read this part dude:

"Don't forget were dealing with the Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall-o-Fame. People tend to overlook this when they talk about candidates. There are many college coaches, women coaches (Summit), contributors (Dave Gavitt), women players (Cheryl Miller, Ann Meyers) and foreign players & coaches inducted in Springfield.

This can open up a whole can of worms for the committee with evaluating NBA players. What do you do with guys who had legendary college careers but had solid NBA careers at best? (see Laettner) What do you do with foreign players who come over to play in the NBA? Alot of the time these foreign players have had solid NBA careers, but if they stayed over in Europe they would have been legendary & possible Hall candidates like Kresmir Cosic or Dino Meneghin (see Divac). An even tougher case is what to do with a guy like Detlef Schrempf (who played his whole college career & some of high school in the US) ? See these are some of the problems that crop up when you don't just have an NBA-only Hall of Fame."

hey link me to some more articles by "jay aych" and I might take that article seriously.

[Rogue]

You could say that, but, I'd still classify guys like Hakeem and Dikembe foreign players.
yeah, you should also classify Arnold a foreigner despite him being the president of california.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Read this part dude:

"Don't forget were dealing with the Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall-o-Fame. People tend to overlook this when they talk about candidates. There are many college coaches, women coaches (Summit), contributors (Dave Gavitt), women players (Cheryl Miller, Ann Meyers) and foreign players & coaches inducted in Springfield.

This can open up a whole can of worms for the committee with evaluating NBA players. What do you do with guys who had legendary college careers but had solid NBA careers at best? (see Laettner) What do you do with foreign players who come over to play in the NBA? Alot of the time these foreign players have had solid NBA careers, but if they stayed over in Europe they would have been legendary & possible Hall candidates like Kresmir Cosic or Dino Meneghin (see Divac). An even tougher case is what to do with a guy like Detlef Schrempf (who played his whole college career & some of high school in the US) ? See these are some of the problems that crop up when you don't just have an NBA-only Hall of Fame."


If this was written by someone other than the basketball hombre it might be taken seriously.

[Findog]

Read this part dude:

"Don't forget were dealing with the Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall-o-Fame. People tend to overlook this when they talk about candidates. There are many college coaches, women coaches (Summit), contributors (Dave Gavitt), women players (Cheryl Miller, Ann Meyers) and foreign players & coaches inducted in Springfield.

This can open up a whole can of worms for the committee with evaluating NBA players. What do you do with guys who had legendary college careers but had solid NBA careers at best? (see Laettner) What do you do with foreign players who come over to play in the NBA? Alot of the time these foreign players have had solid NBA careers, but if they stayed over in Europe they would have been legendary & possible Hall candidates like Kresmir Cosic or Dino Meneghin (see Divac). An even tougher case is what to do with a guy like Detlef Schrempf (who played his whole college career & some of high school in the US) ? See these are some of the problems that crop up when you don't just have an NBA-only Hall of Fame."


Yes I believe a few posts back I said that US Men and Womens College Basketball is important. That's why Pat Summitt is in there. FIBA is important. And it's why Manu will make it too. I just think that Dirk has a better resume than Manu, that's all. They're both HOFers.

[DAF86]

If this was written by someone other than the basketball hombre it might be taken seriously.

Tha comment is racist "man".

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Tha comment is racist "man".


He calls himself the basketball hombre, I didn't make that up.

[underdawg]

yo habla espanol, and it's my freedom to speak half inglis and some espanol for the other half. furiners = foreigners

it's yo hablo espanol, but touche either way

[underdawg]

Yes I believe a few posts back I said that US Men and Womens College Basketball is important. That's why Pat Summitt is in there. FIBA is important. And it's why Manu will make it too. I just think that Dirk has a better resume than Manu, that's all. They're both HOFers.

how the hell does the dirker have a better resume than Manu?

[Findog]

how the hell does the dirker have a better resume than Manu?

Go back and read the fucking thread you lazy fatass.

[underdawg]

Go back and read the fucking thread you lazy fatass.

don't need to read the thread for a simple answer - if you need a whole thread to answer that question, you're obviously reaching

[Findog]

don't need to read the thread for a simple answer - if you need a whole thread to answer that question, you're obviously reaching

You're a typical Spur fan then. I've been asked that question in this thread and I've already answered it. Put the taco down and hit click on your mouse. There's a difference between reading and reasoning on one hand, and reacting on another. You're doing the latter.

[underdawg]

You're a typical Spur fan then. I've been asked that question in this thread and I've already answered it. Put the taco down and hit click on your mouse.

my bad chief - didn't really care to go back and read your disseration of why you thought that an overrated player like dirk was justifiably better than Manu - I'm sure it was a great story. By the way, what do you have against tacos - they're awesome! It was a simple question that should have a simple response - don't sweat it

[sabar]

Dirk > KG > Manu

It's not even a debate if you are building a team. Manu is very good, but not as talented as those above him. That's life.

[werewolf]

Put it this way, if their careers ended today, who do think would have a better shot at the HOF: Pierce/Allen or Howard/Terry?

[kamikazi_player]

KG is better for now, but it's very close. His defense is what makes him better than Dirk. Yeah, his offense has declined, but can still put up good numbers on any given night.

[urunobili]

Dirk > KG > Manu

It's not even a debate if you are building a team. Manu is very good, but not as talented as those above him. That's life.

:lmao

[LnGrrrR]

Dirk is arguably the most efficient offensive player in the League. Kobe takes more bad shots, although of course Kobe is better. Dirk never turns the ball over and he shoots 47-50% from the floor. A Dirk fadeaway is about as efficient as it gets.

If you're talking about points per shot, I calculated and posted that earlier in the post for some superstars. LBJ was the highest I could find, followed by Chris Paul.

[Findog]

my bad chief - didn't really care to go back and read your disseration of why you thought that an overrated player like dirk was justifiably better than Manu - I'm sure it was a great story.

You think Manu is a better player than Dirk. That says it all.


It was a simple question that should have a simple response - don't sweat it

And if you weren't a fat, lazy piece of shit, you could navigate the thread and get your answer. You come in at Page 30 and ask shit that was settled pages back. I'm not going to spoonfeed your lazy ass.

[spursfan1000]

Time to move on people, new comparrison.

[DAF86]

Time to move on people, new comparrison.

24 more hs and this matchup is over.

[spursfan1000]

http://www.theunticket.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mavs-suck.jpg

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

KG is better for now, but it's very close. His defense is what makes him better than Dirk. Yeah, his offense has declined, but can still put up good numbers on any given night.


Oh the village idiot finally comments on this thread.

[sonic21]

24 pages? that's sad.

dirk is clearly better right now.

[Boston Pancake]

Well look at this pile of fucking bullshit. Lookit, you fucking cocksuckers don't know shit about basketball. KG has always owned Dirk's faggy ass. All you fucksticks that voted for Dirk are wicked retarded.

[Will Hunting]

Well look at this pile of fucking bullshit. Lookit, you fucking cocksuckers don't know shit about basketball. KG has always owned Dirk's faggy ass. All you fucksticks that voted for Dirk are wicked retarded.


A fucking men


You fuckin queers who putt from the rough know less about basketball than a dick licking pile of dog shit. WICKED PISSAH!!!!

[Findog]

Lookit, you fucking cocksuckers don't know shit about basketball. KG has always owned Dirk's faggy ass

What a fucking dumbass you are!

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200204210DAL.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200204240DAL.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200204280MIN.html

[Will Hunting]

What a fucking dumbass you are!

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200204210DAL.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200204240DAL.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200204280MIN.html


My math skills say you're a douche bag.

[DAF86]

These days? It's Dirk, hands down. And for those talking about KG's great defense... take a look at his rebounding numbers the last 2 seasons.

Yeah, 'cause we all know that Rebounds = Great defense

[kamikazi_player]

Oh the village idiot finally comments on this thread.
Oh I'm sorry, is everything supposed to agree with everything you say? nah i don't think so dopey cunt

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Oh I'm sorry, is everything supposed to agree with everything you say? nah i don't think so dopey cunt


how's that whole Kevin Durant bad shooting percentage thing working out?

[dirk4mvp]

lol Durant shooting 42%. He knows cuz he was on his fantasy team.

[kamikazi_player]

how's that whole Kevin Durant bad shooting percentage thing working out?
sorry, i wasn't knowledgable enough about that. man, this dude remembers everything i do online. what did i post yesterday? what thread did i made? gtfo dopey cunt.
Solution to life, go outside, socialize with people instead of going online everyday and talking to queer baits like dirk4mvp and stretch. Must of suck spending the summer on a spurs forum instead of talking to girls :lol :lol :lol

[kamikazi_player]

lol, dallas mavericks
lol, no job
lol, remembering everything i did on this forum
lol, dirk
lol, no life
lol, spending all day in this forum

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol Durant shooting 42%. He knows cuz he was on his fantasy team.


Durant's really inefficient, especially his first half of the season (when he shot 48% from the field and 43% from long range).

[kamikazi_player]

lol you and dirk4mvp need to watch this, it can help you with your troubled relationships with girls (or at least give you some confidence)
http://www.happynews.com/news/1252008/girls-101-nine-year-old-offers-dating-advice.htm

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

sorry, i wasn't knowledgable enough about that. man, this dude remembers everything i do online. what did i post yesterday? what thread did i made? gtfo dopey cunt.
Solution to life, go outside, socialize with people instead of going online everyday and talking to queer baits like dirk4mvp and stretch. Must of suck spending the summer on a spurs forum instead of talking to girls :lol :lol :lol


I socialize with plenty of people son, :lmao pulling the "I have a life" card. Also, if posting on a message board is such a loser activity, why exactly are you doing it?

[dirk4mvp]

Damn this guy's mad. Do you have steam coming from your ears?

[kamikazi_player]

lol, you probably post on every thread
lol, people not agreeing with you

[kamikazi_player]

I socialize with plenty of people son, :lmao pulling the "I have a life" card. Also, if posting on a message board is such a loser activity, why exactly are you doing it?
:lol funny, when did i say that you can't go on the spursforum retard, going on everyday to get away from reality is not a good thing. lol, i think everyone knows you don't have a job or don't have a career going for you.

lol, knowledgeable

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

:lol funny, when did i say that you can't go on the spursforum retard, going on everyday to get away from reality is not a good thing. lol, i think everyone knows you don't have a job or don't have a career going for you.

lol, knowledgeable


I don't have a job, it's not like finding a summer job as an 18 YO college student is the easiest thing in the world. I don't deny the fact I don't have a job.

[Henke]

my bad chief - didn't really care to go back and read your disseration of why you thought that an overrated player like dirk was justifiably better than Manu - I'm sure it was a great story. By the way, what do you have against tacos - they're awesome! It was a simple question that should have a simple response - don't sweat it


Manu>Dirk?

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Ginobili became a NBA champion because of the legend named Tim Duncan.
He was the fucking 3rd best player in the Spurs Championship teams.

Manu as 1st option on a team=max 25 wins and lottery every single year.

This comparison doesn't even excist.DIRK>>>>Manu.

@DAF86

Do you remember the 2002 Euroleague final(Manu's epic fail)?I'm just wondering.

PS:Spanoulis won this year the Euroleague title(and 1st euroleague team,Final-4 MVP honors),has a gold medal from 2005 european championship and a silver medal from 2006 world championship.Please a NBA ring for Kill Bill and he'll be a lock for HOF.Vassilis Spanoulis FTW.:lol:lol:lol:lol

[kamikazi_player]

maybe because you're lazy and spend all their time in a NBA forum than trying to apply for jobs.

Hint: you might want to get applications and fill them out if you expect to get a job for starters.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

maybe because you're lazy and spend all their time in a NBA forum than trying to apply for jobs.

Hint: you might want to get applications and fill them out if you expect to get a job.


I go back to school August 8th, if you know of a company that will hire me knowing I'm leaving for school two weeks from now, I'd love to hear. I applied for probably 200 jobs this summer, once June was almost over it was pointless to keep doing that since no one is gonna hire me for a month.

[kamikazi_player]

apply earlier before it's too late. Even with this fucked up times with economy, people are still hiring.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

apply earlier before it's too late. Even with this fucked up times with economy, people are still hiring.


There were two places that said we would hire me you except we're looking for someone long term and had other applicants who were looking for a long term job. Trust me, I'd much rather be working so I have more spending money when school starts next year. It's not like being unemployed this summer was a personal choice of mine.

[kamikazi_player]

jobs are easier if you know someone who works at a place, for example in-n-out. Knew a friend from where i work at right now Cold Stone, and he was able to get me a job over there. Put in a good word for me and they liked my history at the jobs i used to work at. Even a minimum wage job is better than sitting on my ass all day playing NBA2k9. And oh yeah, I am also on summer vacation and start school in middle of sept.

[underdawg]

You think Manu is a better player than Dirk. That says it all.



And if you weren't a fat, lazy piece of shit, you could navigate the thread and get your answer. You come in at Page 30 and ask shit that was settled pages back. I'm not going to spoonfeed your lazy ass.

You done cryin sweetheart? Need a hug? Why are mav fans so uptight - I'm sorry Hanson's not doing a reunion tour, but that's no reason to get so frustrated. My question was not on who was better of the two, but why dirk's resume was better - there's a difference.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

jobs are easier if you know someone who works at a place, for example in-n-out.

I asked plenty of people, from what I understand you basically need to have a connection or know someone if you want a job right now. I even hit up my old boss who I got along with really well and he said they laid off 70 people last month and actually completely got rid of my job once I quit.


Even a minimum wage job is better than sitting on my ass all day playing NBA2k9.

Agreed.

[Findog]

My question was not on who was better of the two, but why dirk's resume was better - there's a difference.

And DAF86 asked that exact same question pages back and I answered him as to why I thought that was so. If you're interested in my answer, go back through the thread and read it. I don't cater to laziness.

[pauls931]

Anyone in their right mind would take KG even if he's a prick.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Anyone in their right mind would take KG even if he's a prick.


Right now?

[pauls931]

Right now?

I'm assuming both players are healthy at their current age. Take KG's surgery into account and it makes this poll even more worthless.

[mavs>spurs2]

Dirk can lead a team to a championship if not for bullshit whistles. Kevin Garnett can lead his team to a record number of consecutive first round exits. This is a no brainer.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'm assuming both players are healthy at their current age. Take KG's surgery into account and it makes this poll even more worthless.


So you're saying Dallas still goes 50-32 and advances to the 2nd round if they have a healthy KG instead of a healthy Dirk?

[pauls931]

So you're saying Dallas still goes 50-32 and advances to the 2nd round if they have a healthy KG instead of a healthy Dirk?

Perhaps. I was thinking more of who I'd rather have if I'm building a team, not fixing the mavericks.

[BUMP]

There were two places that said we would hire me you except we're looking for someone long term and had other applicants who were looking for a long term job. Trust me, I'd much rather be working so I have more spending money when school starts next year. It's not like being unemployed this summer was a personal choice of mine.

dude u gotta lie. simple as that.

tell them you're interested long term and then when you go back to school, tell em you have to leave for personal reasons and family issues. :lol

i had the same problem as you last summer i had to settle for McDonalds, for the last month and i completely BSed them saying i was moving to Colorado to fix our family issues, when i was really just going back to Tech :lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

dude u gotta lie. simple as that.

tell them you're interested long term and then when you go back to school, tell em you have to leave for personal reasons and family issues. :lol

i had the same problem as you last summer i had to settle for McDonalds, for the last month and i completely BSed them saying i was moving to Colorado to fix our family issues, when i was really just going back to Tech :lmao


I didn't even think of that. FUCK.

[Phillip]

That's hilarious. Bullshit whistles got them in position to play the Heat. If not for the bullshit whistles, as you call them, they would have never been in the finals in the first place. Sweet irony.

what bs whistles were there in the memphis and phoenix series? i dont recall there being a problem. we wont mention the spurs series because the whistles were equally bad both ways, and the spurs actually got more benefit as they had less fouls called against them, and shot more free throws through the series. not to mention at the end of game 5 or 6 when tony parker grabbed dirks jersey and pulled him back on a potential game winning shot.

please shut up already. the series was fair. only fuckfaced spurfans like you still whine about it. people who arent even mavs fans, even people who hate the mavs, still say that the heat/mavs series was very fishy.

[Phillip]

Anyone in their right mind would take KG even if he's a prick.

moron

[BUMP]

Sorry, but a 7' white player with no inside game going to the line 20 times in a game is way more 'fishy' than a superstar guard that penetrates constantly going there the same amount of times. Nice try. But hey, if it makes you feel better for being losers... it is what it is.

Nobody even brought up this irrelevant issue til you stumbled in here

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Anyone who remembers 2006 will remember the announcers repeatedly stating how Dirk is taking to the hole on a consistent basis and that's why he's getting to the line.

[DAF86]

Manu>Dirk?

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Ginobili became a NBA champion because of the legend named Tim Duncan.
He was the fucking 3rd best player in the Spurs Championship teams.

Manu as 1st option on a team=max 25 wins and lottery every single year.

This comparison doesn't even excist.DIRK>>>>Manu.

@DAF86

Do you remember the 2002 Euroleague final(Manu's epic fail)?I'm just wondering.

PS:Spanoulis won this year the Euroleague title(and 1st euroleague team,Final-4 MVP honors),has a gold medal from 2005 european championship and a silver medal from 2006 world championship.Please a NBA ring for Kill Bill and he'll be a lock for HOF.Vassilis Spanoulis FTW.:lol:lol:lol:lol

He'll probably get to the HoF even without the NBA ring idiot.

[Gino]

Dirk can lead a team to a championship if not for bullshit whistles. Kevin Garnett can lead his team to a record number of consecutive first round exits. This is a no brainer.

Or Dwayne Wade...or Jason Richardson....or Chris Paul....or Chauncey Billups...

[BUMP]

Anyone who remembers 2006 will remember the announcers repeatedly stating how Dirk is taking to the hole on a consistent basis and that's why he's getting to the line.

Exactly. If Dirk was shooting jumpers all game and they were calling fouls on the perimeter or something then SpurFan would have a point.

[Ghazi]

Sorry, but a 7' white player with no inside game going to the line 20 times in a game is way more 'fishy' than a superstar guard that penetrates constantly going there the same amount of times. Nice try. But hey, if it makes you feel better for being losers... it is what it is.

BTW, what does his being white have to do wit anything?

Second off, most of the leaders in FTA's these days are perimeter players.

[Tim Duncan]

Seeing that blonde bombshell gliding up and down the court makes me shit my pants!

Gotta go with Dirk since he was 0wned me over and over

[DAF86]

The reason Dirk won this poll is 'cause this is a Spurs board and he always plays well against us. If this were a Lakers board KG would have won it.

[BUMP]

The reason Dirk won this poll is 'cause this is a Spurs board and he always plays well against us. If this were a Lakers board KG would have won it.

agreed to an extent.

not sure if KG would win, but it would be a HELL of a lot closer. The Spurs have been owned by the Mavs in recent years, so naturally they're gonna pick Dirk

[Gino]

Holy crap...a thread turns into "where DuncanOwnsKobe sould get a job" and nobody told me?!!!

[IronMexican]

Nobody even brought up this irrelevant issue til you stumbled in here

You got a 360? If you do, you have to join the Madden league.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Holy crap...a thread turns into "where DuncanOwnsKobe sould get a job" and nobody told me?!!!


Son why are you so obsessed with me?

[Findog]

Son why are you so obsessed with me?

You are still a minor, after all.

[BUMP]

You got a 360? If you do, you have to join the Madden league.

no i just got it for ps2

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You are still a minor, after all.


No, I'm 18, so I'm really clueless. Yesterday he was talking about my pubes, and he's still talking about me today.

[mavs>spurs2]

Sorry, but a 7' white player with no inside game going to the line 20 times in a game is way more 'fishy' than a superstar guard that penetrates constantly going there the same amount of times. Nice try. But hey, if it makes you feel better for being losers... it is what it is.

it wasn't "the same amount of times." the fucker set an all time record for free throw attempts in a series besting MICHAEL JORDAN. more than once he would shoot a wide open jumper because our guys had to play way off of him for fear of a whistle, and proceed to fall down with no one within reaching distance and get a whistle. did you watch the series or just laughed about the score in the paper?

[mavs>spurs2]

BTW, what does his being white have to do wit anything?

Second off, most of the leaders in FTA's these days are perimeter players.

just like i said earlier in the thread, 90% of the posters voting for kg are black. they have an agenda dude

[dirk4mvp]

Exactly. If Dirk was shooting jumpers all game and they were calling fouls on the perimeter or something then SpurFan would have a point.

Add that to Dirk probably being the best at getting his defender in the air off of fakes.

[dirk4mvp]

The reason Dirk won this poll is 'cause this is a Spurs board and he always plays well against us. If this were a Lakers board KG would have won it.

Damn brah, stop crying. You've completely flipped out ever since you thought KG was going to win this poll and you turned out to be horribly wrong.

[DAF86]

Damn brah, stop crying. You've completely flipped out ever since you thought KG was going to win this poll and you turned out to be horribly wrong.

:lol I couldn't care less. Besides I knew Dirk was going to win.

[Gino]

Son why are you so obsessed with me?

Huh? I didnt turn this thread into "where should DOK should get a job" conversation. Someone else did. I was just surprised no one sent me a PM letting me know considering I started a poll asking that very question. :lol

Im glad others are catching on that you have WAY too much time on your hands and need to move out of mom and dad's place.

[mavs>spurs2]

Huh? I didnt turn this thread into "where should DOK should get a job" conversation. Someone else did. I was just surprised no one sent me a PM letting me know considering I started a poll asking that very question. :lol

Im glad others are catching on that you have WAY too much time on your hands and need to move out of mom and dad's place.

you're ragging on a 18 year old kid fresh out of high school for still being at home? sorry, but it's not that easy to just jump up and be on your own at 18 in todays world. you need an education to get any kind of job worth a shit, i know plenty of 20-24 year olds still living at home. he could be saving mom and dad money by staying at home while he goes to college instead of paying for room and board. as long as the guy has a plan, you can't really rag on him because you dont know him. and he's consistantly owning in this thread. keep up the good work DOK

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Im glad others are catching on that you have WAY too much time on your hands and need to move out of mom and dad's place.

I'm weirded out by the fact my life is so important to you.....and the summer after your first year of college (assuming to attended college), where did you stay?

[Gino]

you're ragging on a 18 year old kid fresh out of high school for still being at home? sorry, but it's not that easy to just jump up and be on your own at 18 in todays world. you need an education to get any kind of job worth a shit, i know plenty of 20-24 year olds still living at home. as long as the guy has a plan, you can't really rag on him because you dont know him. and he's consistantly owning in this thread. keep up the good work DOK

Fair enough. But he should have a job. I recently read "Cesar's way" and DOK (and Monos and dirk4mvp) reminded me a lot of the dogs he describes that enter the red zone.

Basically when they dont get enough exercise and mental stimulation, they resort to getting into trouble. Thats basically DOK and Monos. They have nothing better to do so they just flame all day about how they hate Nash/Suns/Sarver or in monos' case just about everyone.

btw - What happened to Monos? Was he banned?

[dirk4mvp]

DoK > someone who can be found on their state's sexual predator website.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

you're ragging on a 18 year old kid fresh out of high school for still being at home? sorry, but it's not that easy to just jump up and be on your own at 18 in todays world. you need an education to get any kind of job worth a shit, i know plenty of 20-24 year olds still living at home. as long as the guy has a plan, you can't really rag on him because you dont know him. and he's consistantly owning in this thread. keep up the good work DOK


He's ragging on an 18 year old who is at home for the summer for being unable to find a summer job in this economy.....gee what a loser I am :rolleyes

[Gino]

I'm weirded out by the fact my life is so important to you.....and the summer after your first year of college (assuming to attended college), where did you stay?

Yes I attended college (I already told you Im working on my masters). The Summer after my freshman year I was in an apartment. Its not that hard to share one with a couple of others when you have a part time job.

Do you live far from Tucson? Why cant you have a job and go to school?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Fair enough. But he should have a job. I recently read "Cesar's way" and DOK (and Monos and dirk4mvp) reminded me a lot of the dogs he describes that enter the red zone.

Basically when they dont get enough exercise and mental stimulation, they resort to getting into trouble. Thats basically DOK and Monos. They have nothing better to do so they just flame all day about how they hate Nash/Suns/Sarver or in monos' case just about everyone.

btw - What happened to Monos? Was he banned?


Monos lost a bet with Mavsfan1000 so he'll be gone for awhile.

And you'd have a point if I was the only college student in the world who couldn't find a summer job.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Do you live far from Tucson? Why cant you have a job and go to school?

Well FYI I have an on campus job setup once school starts. My parents told me they didn't want me to get a job my first year of school.

[Gino]

He's ragging on an 18 year old who is at home for the summer for being unable to find a summer job in this economy.....gee what a loser I am :rolleyes

As others have said, you havent tried very hard.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

And I live in Phoenix for the summer. It's not like I'm living with parents and driving to school everyday. I'm moving into a house in Tucson with people in 2 weeks.

[Gino]

I'll call a truce with you DOK.

What bet did Monos lose?

[BUMP]

Yes I attended college (I already told you Im working on my masters). The Summer after my freshman year I was in an apartment. Its not that hard to share one with a couple of others when you have a part time job.

Do you live far from Tucson? Why cant you have a job and go to school?

was the apartment atleast 1000 feet away?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'll call a truce with you DOK.

What bet did Monos lose?


K sounds good, and Monos lost a bet about whether Orlando would match the offer for Gortat.

[DAF86]

you're ragging on a 18 year old kid fresh out of high school for still being at home? sorry, but it's not that easy to just jump up and be on your own at 18 in todays world. you need an education to get any kind of job worth a shit, i know plenty of 20-24 year olds still living at home. he could be saving mom and dad money by staying at home while he goes to college instead of paying for room and board. as long as the guy has a plan, you can't really rag on him because you dont know him. and he's consistantly owning in this thread. keep up the good work DOK

I've nothing against DOK but he got owned on the only clear "ownage" of this thread.

[Gino]

In fact, Im calling a truce with all mavs fans now that Monos is gone.

A clean slate for everyone. I am removing everyone I currently have on ignore.

Have a good weekend.

[dirk4mvp]

lol

[Rogue]

In fact, Im calling a truce with all mavs fans now that Monos is gone.

A clean slate for everyone. I am removing everyone I currently have on ignore.

Have a good weekend.
Although Mono is gone, we still have got many other decent y intelligent Mavs fans to beat those idiotic douchebags that consider KG a better player than Dirk. Even a suns fan like DOK is more than enough to own your depressed self from the big toe to your little head.

[duncan228]

mono isn't posting as mono but he's still here.

[Rogue]

I've nothing against DOK but he got owned on the only clear "ownage" of this thread.
Usted estas retrasodo pensaras que DOK este tenereseis en la argumento.

[pussyface.]

mono isn't posting as mono but he's still here.

Somebody IP check screen names to see which one is mono.

[DAF86]

Usted estas retrasodo pensaras que DOK este tenereseis en la argumento.

Eh? I don't know what you just said. I can't even guess. But if you want to know where DOK got owned. Here it is:


How the hell is Manu a lock for the HoF?


Only player in the history to win: euroleague (MVP), Olympics (MVP), NBA (one vote short of MVP) and a lot of other acomplishments.


Manu isn't a lock for the HOF.


Go get informed and come back.


How exactly am I supposed to get informed when it's nothing more than a homer opinion I'm disagreeing with?


No really you're making an ass out of yourself. Go see the people that got into the HoF and come come back.


I think there's no such thing as NBA HoF but I could be wrong.


There is, that's what I thought you were referring to. General basketball HoF yeah he's def gonna get inducted.


the fuck is this guy talking about? the "nba" hall of fame is the Naismith, same as everyone else gets inducted into.

www.hoophall.com

there's only one that's ever mattered. there is no "nba" hall of fame outside of this one AFAIK. AKA, NBA players ONLY get accept induction into this hall of fame. So again, dunno what the hell anyone else would be talking about.

Therefore, Manu is a LOCK.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I guess this makes up for the fact you said that Alaskan fuck is gonna make the HoF.

[DAF86]

I guess this makes up for the fact you said that Alaskan fuck is gonna make the HoF.

Get me the quote where I said that.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Get me the quote where I said that.

Dickface's sig.

[DAF86]

Dickface's sig.

I thought you already knew not to pay attention to him.

[Findog]

I don't feel like dredging through a 35-page thread, but I believe what DAF86 said was that if Trajan Langdon won a Euroleague MVP and/or championship , then he would have to be considered for the HOF.

[DAF86]

I don't feel like dredging through a 35-page thread, but I believe what DAF86 said was that if Trajan Langdon won a Euroleague MVP and/or championship , then he would have to be considered for the HOF.

I said that with the eurolegue 'ship and the MVP he has a case for the HoF, which is absolutely true but it isn't the same as saying "Langdon is a HoF".

[Rogue]

I said that with the eurolegue 'ship and the MVP he has a case for the HoF, which is absolutely true but it isn't the same as saying "Langdon is a HoF".
You mean the ship and MVP give him pretty much leverage and make him very likely to become a Hall of Famer in the future, of course he is not yet a Hall of Famer and no active player can be according to the rules, which forbids a player to be recruited into HOF until the 5th year after his retirement.

[MavDynasty]

hi.

[dirk4mvp]

No, I didn't watch the series,
Thanks for playing.

[BUMP]

:lol^

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I love how the same Spurs fans that claim the Spurs were cheated by the officials in 2006 get mad at Suns fans who bitch about officiating in 2007.........when the 2007 series was the series investigated by the FBI because of a game officiated by a crooked ref.

[DAF86]

WINNER: Dirk Nowitzki - 71.74% (99 votes)

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv104/COCHIfz/dirk_nowitzki11.jpg

LOSER: Kevin Garnett - 28.26% (39 votes)

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv104/COCHIfz/garnett11.jpg

[DAF86]

I love how the same Spurs fans that claim the Spurs were cheated by the officials in 2006 get mad at Suns fans who bitch about officiating in 2007.........when the 2007 series was the series investigated by the FBI because of a game officiated by a crooked ref.

That series was investigated by the FBI only because of Donaghy but IMO there was nothing strange or wrong with the officiating.

[Muser]

:lmao @ KG's face.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

IMO there was nothing strange or wrong with the officiating.


I'm sure that being your opinion has nothing to do with the fact you're a Spurs fan.

[45 bank shot]

neither

[Hemotivo]

irk is better

[LnGrrrR]

Ha! Nice losing pic there for Garnett.

[dirk4mvp]

That's what D. Wade said.

Witty. But you proved yourself a dumbass by saying you didn't even watch the series.

[DAF86]

:lmao @ KG's face.


Ha! Nice losing pic there for Garnett.

Camon guys, Dirk's winning pic is a 100 times better.

[chubbs]

Maybe he is, but it isn't as sure as Manu's lock.


If I were a homer I'd have put Manu on the top 16 list. Manu is already a first ballot HoF, Dirk isn't right now. Tell me how's that beign a homer.


if the people that vote to get players into the HoF would have to pick only one between Manu and Dirk. Manu'd get the nod.

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Thread]

They each got that fuckin' ring at my expense. You'd think the worst would be KG in Boston, but, that kraut bastard in Dallas was the worst. I never saw somebody so GD hot in my life, it was almost mechanical. And do you think coach (who was it then?) would've sold out and doubled Nowit? Nope. Took it like a trouper. And that Polack bastard (name escapes me) got rung out of it as well. SOB! We denied that SOB in Sacramento,,,he transfers to Texas and gets straightened out. I nearly cried.

[DAF86]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

All of that true at that point in time, tbh.

[Texas_Ranger]

Dirks championship run, which was one of the best in the history of the Nba, makes him a level above the loudmouth, who knew he was a bitch that will never win shit and decided to form a superteam.

[Ghazi]

Dirk Nowitzki

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao saying Dirk wasn’t a HOF

[Neo.]

:lmao saying Dirk wasn’t a HOF

apparently

~15/4/4 career statline
1x all star
1x 3rd team all NBA
had to play overseas until 25 when finally good enough to succeed in the NBA
euroleague champ (when euroleague was still mediocre at best)
Olympic champ (on a year that elite USA players didn't participate, Argentina had the most NBA players outside of USA, and all other teams were crap)
3x champion as a 6th man on 12 deep squads

is better than

~24/9/3 career statline
8x all star
2x all NBA third team
3x all NBA second team
4x all NBA first team
1x NBA MVP
led moderately talented but flawed teams to multiple 60 win seasons and a finals appearance
led a total crap German team to an Olympic appearance
was good enough to make the NBA at 20

:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

apparently

~15/4/4 career statline
1x all star
1x 3rd team all NBA
had to play overseas until 25 when finally good enough to succeed in the NBA
euroleague champ (when euroleague was still mediocre at best)
Olympic champ (on a year that elite USA players didn't participate, Argentina had the most NBA players outside of USA, and all other teams were crap)
3x champion as a 6th man on 12 deep squads

is better than

~24/9/3 career statline
8x all star
2x all NBA third team
3x all NBA second team
4x all NBA first team
1x NBA MVP
led moderately talented but flawed teams to multiple 60 win seasons and a finals appearance
led a total crap German team to an Olympic appearance
was good enough to make the NBA at 20

:rollin
:lmao :lmao No wonder he tries to backtrack

[DAF86]

Mofos thought Manu wasn't already a lock and now want to act like they knew what they were talking about. I had to educate you sons. :lol

[DAF86]

:lmao :lmao No wonder he tries to backtrack

Backtrack from what? I stand by everthing said in this thread, tbh.

[Neo.]

Mofos thought Manu wasn't already a lock and now want to act like they knew what they were talking about. I had to educate you sons. :lol

he was a lock

but not more of a lock than dirk, even at that time

[DAF86]

he was a lock

but not more of a lock than dirk, even at that time

Both just as locks, but you gotta admit it was a good stir up, tbh. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Both just as locks, but you gotta admit it was a good stir up, tbh. :lol
:lmao doubling down

[Neo.]

Both just as locks, but you gotta admit it was a good stir up, tbh. :lol

:lmao backtracking