View Full Version : McGrady: I guarantee I will be back to the player I was once
nkdlunch
07-31-2009, 03:30 PM
"My knee is feeling extremely strong. The most important thing is I'm confident in it. You guys just stay tuned. I'm out here grinding in Chicago, trying to get back right, but yes I will be playing for the Rockets in the '09-10 season. I will be in uniform for the Rockets this upcoming season, I guarantee you that, and I will be a lot better than I was last year. I will be back to the player that I once was. I will guarantee you that."
:downspin: :sleep :elephant
IronMexican
07-31-2009, 03:31 PM
I'll be rooting for him. He was a lot of fun to watch in the first half of the decade.
resistanze
07-31-2009, 03:32 PM
I can't make jokes about him anymore since I started getting real bad back pain.
dirk4mvp
07-31-2009, 03:32 PM
I'm pulling for him.
Hornets1
07-31-2009, 03:43 PM
I'm pulling for him.
The 13 points in 45 seconds was, maybe, the most rediculous thing I have ever seen. I really hope he come back like he said. Time for Houston to have some good things happen for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfurCV1FDpM
The fact that he was guarded so well by Bowen made it that much more impressive.
jack sommerset
07-31-2009, 03:49 PM
Trying to get traded
anonoftheinternets
07-31-2009, 03:50 PM
ai and tmac .. trying to prove they still belong .. i wonder if any team takes a chance on them ...
in2deep
07-31-2009, 03:52 PM
like Marbury, AI... sadly, Tmac is done.
crc21209
07-31-2009, 03:52 PM
He's said this about 50 million times already, I'll believe it when I see it...
23LeBronJames23
07-31-2009, 03:54 PM
i hope that will happen.
:lmao
You guys actually believe thios chump!?!
He said the same shit last year, god.
Spursfan092120
07-31-2009, 04:16 PM
I'll be rooting for him. He was a lot of fun to watch in the first half of the decade.
+100..that 13 points in 35 seconds pissed me off, but it was amazing to watch.
Spursfan092120
07-31-2009, 04:17 PM
:lmao
You guys actually believe thios chump!?!
He said the same shit last year, god.
Just saying we're rooting for him..not saying it's going to happen. You should root for him too, after all, he is on your team, dude.
The Franchise
07-31-2009, 04:37 PM
:lmao
You guys actually believe thios chump!?!
He said the same shit last year, god.
Yeah, but last year Tim Grover wasn't cosigning for him. Only because he said he guaranteed it is why I have any hope. This man has only been singing praises about Tmacs progress. Also the surgery he had was not on a weight bearing part of the knee which is why they told him he could play last year if he could endure the pain, because it wasn't going to get any worse. It was not the type of procedure that others have had like Amare and Webber. Besides this is the first time Mcgrady has ever dedicated himself to working hard in his career.
It's also a contract year so he will give his all to shine even if it's for selfish reasons. He will be the best teammate he has ever been, because whether he's resigned by the Rockets or not, he will have to prove that he can fit into someone elses' scheme without making to many waves. Worst case scenario he fails, and we look forward to 2010. Without him we'd be lucky to make the playoffs. With him and our new additions we are a better(and much deeper) team than when our playoffs ended.
That should be interesting considering the fact that the whole team hates him
The Franchise
07-31-2009, 04:52 PM
That should be interesting considering the fact that the whole team hates him
Trust me, he is going to lick his teammates ass in his last meaningful contract year. Besides, whether they hate him or not, they will accept him because he makes the team a lot better.
Hemotivo
07-31-2009, 04:58 PM
:bang
Mr Bones
07-31-2009, 05:24 PM
I'm rooting for him. I've always like TMac and a quick look at his stats in the playoffs pretty much proves that he has played well and was rarely the reason for first round exits. It has become the trendy thing to say that he chokes in the playoffs, but if his playoff numbers over his career are as good or better than his regular season numbers, how is it his fault?
jazzypimp
07-31-2009, 05:28 PM
He also guaranteed he'd get out of the first round the year before last!!
Mr Bones
07-31-2009, 05:34 PM
McGrady's career playoff averages:
28.5 ppg
6.9 rebounds
6.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blocks
And his career playoff FG% is identical to his career FG%. TMac has been a great playoff performer his entire career. The idea that he "chokes" in the playoffs is a complete myth with no basis is reality.
iggypop123
07-31-2009, 05:38 PM
he has a better chance at fixing his eye than being great again
Rogue
07-31-2009, 05:45 PM
:lmao
You guys actually believe thios chump!?!
He said the same shit last year, god.
I would rather trust T-Mac than believe Yao's pale promise of not retiring. Of course Yao won't retire until two years later from now.
Culburn369
07-31-2009, 05:51 PM
Trust me, he is going to lick his teammates ass in his last meaningful contract year.
Makes perfect sense now: Dunc told me in a PM that he's relocating to Houston and walking on in hopes of landing a roster spot.
I would rather trust T-Mac than believe Yao's pale promise of not retiring. Of course Yao won't retire until two years later from now.
True, Yao is the rocket's biggest mistake
I really believe this guy.......hopefully we will surprise everyone next year....it's something the Rockets do very, very well ;D
The 13 points in 35 seconds is one of those clips I can watch over and over and over again :toast
baseline bum
07-31-2009, 07:03 PM
So no second round for Houston this season?
The Franchise
07-31-2009, 07:10 PM
So no second round for Houston this season?
If he actually comes back and dedicates himself to the team, I think we will better than in last years playoffs. I do understand that is a big if.
DenDen
07-31-2009, 09:57 PM
True, Yao is the rocket's biggest mistake
From reading your post, you must be the sorriest rocket fan ever. go ahead put on that kobe jersey and hop on the wagon, you know you want to.
Oh God，just what we need another T-Mac "guarantee". :lol
I'll be rooting for him tough.
Henke
08-01-2009, 10:34 AM
I'm rooting for him. I've always like TMac and a quick look at his stats in the playoffs pretty much proves that he has played well and was rarely the reason for first round exits. It has become the trendy thing to say that he chokes in the playoffs, but if his playoff numbers over his career are as good or better than his regular season numbers, how is it his fault?
:tu:tu
Double-Up
08-01-2009, 10:43 AM
Just saying we're rooting for him..not saying it's going to happen. You should root for him too, after all, he is on your team, dude.
No shit.
Double-Up
08-01-2009, 10:45 AM
True, Yao is the rocket's biggest mistake
What are you talking about? Who else should we have taken, Amare?
Mori Chu
08-01-2009, 01:06 PM
It's amazing to see the Rockets go from such a promising 2009 playoffs to likely missing the playoffs in 2010. I guess that's what happens when your best 3 players are either insane or made of glass.
rayray2k8
08-01-2009, 01:22 PM
How long before he gets hurt again? 2 maybe 3 months?
Roxsfan
08-01-2009, 05:50 PM
The only reason I believe he will return to superstar status is because he has been shamed with the no 2nd round monkey on his back (last yr does not count, not active), having injuries that cause him to look washed up. Now, after the recent surgeries and rehab and the contract year--I expect big things from him from the all star game forward. Unfortunately, as is the Tmac misfortune, the talent around him may be good, but just not quite good enough to win when it counts and get out of the first round. Of course, there is a chance that they miss the first round entirely. I think if he goes to a contending team, he can help them win a ring.
Yao, welll he has a lot to prove as well and I give a full season and postseason run at full health after recovery at 50-50. I believe he will recover 100%, but I believe he will fuck up another part of his lower extremities.
It's amazing to see the Rockets go from such a promising 2009 playoffs to likely missing the playoffs in 2010. I guess that's what happens when your best 3 players are either insane or made of glass.
Suns fans have NO ROOM to talk about anybody ever!!!
Gummi Clutch
08-01-2009, 06:00 PM
He sukcs
From reading your post, you must be the sorriest rocket fan ever. go ahead put on that kobe jersey and hop on the wagon, you know you want to.
True true, I am a fake rockets fan that has been posting under a rockets identity backing them for thousands of posts because I am simply a Kobe fan.
Wtf is wrong with you nutjobs? You are seriously fucking agitating me, go root for the fucking chinese national team or some shit.
The rockets are not just YAO. Some of us have been rooting for this team FAR longer than YOU bandwagoners that seem content with an injury prone star that has achieved one playoff series victory in his entire tenure, which seems to be over.
Is this really what the fanbase has turned into? Worshipping a player because he got you to the 2nd round and then just got injured?
Please, do me a favor and go shove a pile of dicks up your ass before ever trying to relate with how superficial you really are.
Gummi Clutch
08-01-2009, 07:54 PM
It is hard to believe i nmcgrady but he is better than 7'6" pieces of ****
is that a guarantee or just a guaransheed?
blink
08-02-2009, 01:08 AM
more like
my dinner plate > glass > tmac > yao
IronMexican
08-02-2009, 01:33 AM
T0Mac above Yao? Please. At least Yao was on his teams bench rooting for the Rockets once he went down in game 3. T-Mac was out there calling the Lakers the favorites.
DenDen
08-02-2009, 02:43 AM
True true, I am a fake rockets fan that has been posting under a rockets identity backing them for thousands of posts because I am simply a Kobe fan.
Wtf is wrong with you nutjobs? You are seriously fucking agitating me, go root for the fucking chinese national team or some shit.
The rockets are not just YAO. Some of us have been rooting for this team FAR longer than YOU bandwagoners that seem content with an injury prone star that has achieved one playoff series victory in his entire tenure, which seems to be over.
Is this really what the fanbase has turned into? Worshipping a player because he got you to the 2nd round and then just got injured?
Please, do me a favor and go shove a pile of dicks up your ass before ever trying to relate with how superficial you really are.
I don't worship yao, I root for him because he wear a rocket jersey. Same goes for brook, tmac, carl, etc. etc. Unlike you I'll root for them, even if they become, the sorriest team in the leauge, that's Just me being a real rocket fan, never gonna get any negativity out of me. Bandwagoner? is there any reason for the rockets to have a bandwagon? FYI, I don't like dick, I like vajayajay. Dude, if you wanna hop on that purple and pisst bandwagon, it's cool, they have tons of room. When the laker play us at home, proudly put on that kobe jersey, scream MVP, and enjoy a cold cup of diarrhea.
Rogue
08-02-2009, 07:59 AM
I don't worship yao, I root for him because he wear a rocket jersey. Same goes for brook, tmac, carl, etc. etc. Unlike you I'll root for them, even if they become, the sorriest team in the leauge, that's Just me being a real rocket fan, never gonna get any negativity out of me. Bandwagoner? is there any reason for the rockets to have a bandwagon? FYI, I don't like dick, I like vajayajay. Dude, if you wanna hop on that purple and pisst bandwagon, it's cool, they have tons of room. When the laker play us at home, proudly put on that kobe jersey, scream MVP, and enjoy a cold cup of diarrhea.
I doubt you would have appeared as a Rocket fan here today if the 7'6 **** had been drafted by some other team in 02. Had the 7'6 got drafted by Lakers in 02, your would also have worn the decayed-grape purple diaper, so would many other idiots in millions.
Sook just dislikes some guy that will get 15 million green papers from his team next season without playing even one fucking game. T-Mac is also overpaid and has never lived up to the expectations, but we can at least see his fat ass in a couple games every season. Besides, T-Mac hasn't drawn so many idiotic fans to harm the reputation of the real Rockets fans who have been in the base since before Houston drafted that ****.
DenDen
08-02-2009, 12:59 PM
I doubt you would have appeared as a Rocket fan here today if the 7'6 **** had been drafted by some other team in 02. Had the 7'6 got drafted by Lakers in 02, your would also have worn the decayed-grape purple diaper, so would many other idiots in millions.
Sook just dislikes some guy that will get 15 million green papers from his team next season without playing even one fucking game. T-Mac is also overpaid and has never lived up to the expectations, but we can at least see his fat ass in a couple games every season. Besides, T-Mac hasn't drawn so many idiotic fans to harm the reputation of the real Rockets fans who have been in the base since before Houston drafted that ****.
WRONG! I hate lakers with a passion, If yao was kobe sidekick, then fuck him.
NickiRasgo
11-01-2009, 01:04 AM
Where is he?
da_suns_fan
11-01-2009, 01:20 AM
Isnt this the dude who talked about how great it was moving on the next round of the playoffs when the Magic were up 3-1 over the Pistons?
boston.balla
11-01-2009, 07:53 AM
the hate on tmac is amazing. Injuries can destroy even the most talented, and god damn tmac was a hell of a player when healthy. Unfortunately now he is a mle if healthy, or a vet min if he does not.
I think he is just unlucky to not get out of the second round as he played well in the playoffs (for stat lovers: another post proves it by stat comparison).
I hope he understands he can never be the guy 5 years ago and changes his game to better protect himself, he still can play decent d, pass, has awesome range, length and height. Less penetration more perimeter should be the key in his game.
I am sorry for the rockets, both tmac and yao are both great players and decent people compared to what we have in the nba. And @people saying yao is bad or something, he is not suited for the nba, or should be played maximum 2 times per week. We all saw at the olympics what he can do when healthy. Yao is really a unique talent. I understand the rockets' fans frustration but to call tmac and yao out for their injuries is unfair. It's bad luck and that's that.
pauls931
11-01-2009, 07:55 AM
Not a fan, but I do hope he makes it out of the first round some day as an active player.
boston.balla
11-01-2009, 08:00 AM
Not a fan, but I do hope he makes it out of the
first round some day as an active player.
He certainly deserves it.
DaDakota
11-01-2009, 08:46 AM
He is healthy, but the Rockets are taking it slow for 2 reasons.
1. To make danged sure he is ready to go.
2. To establish an identity without him.
Number 1 is easy to figure...they should be cautious because if they want to keep him or trade him they need him healthy.
But 2 is more interesting, the Rockets know McGrady wants to dominate the ball, that is his playing style, and they also know he is not good enough or consistent enough doing that to really succeed in the playoffs. So they want to get a good style of play established to when he comes back, he has to fit in, rather than play the style he is comfortable with....
I am convinced in a contract year, when Tmac will need his touches to show what he can do, that the Rockets will trade him......if he conformed to their style the team would be better off, but after 11 years and him having individual success playing his way, I just think it won't happen.
And the Rockets can not take the ball away from Aaron Brooks he is just too good, and they need him to develop.
DD
Spursmania
11-01-2009, 09:34 AM
The 13 points in 45 seconds was, maybe, the most rediculous thing I have ever seen. I really hope he come back like he said. Time for Houston to have some good things happen for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfurCV1FDpM
The fact that he was guarded so well by Bowen made it that much more impressive.
That truly was amazing. I'll never forget that either. Good Luck to him. A lot of crap has been said about him-some deserved some undeserved. But I wish the guy the best.:toast
The Franchise
11-01-2009, 01:17 PM
He is healthy, but the Rockets are taking it slow for 2 reasons.
1. To make danged sure he is ready to go.
2. To establish an identity without him.
Number 1 is easy to figure...they should be cautious because if they want to keep him or trade him they need him healthy.
But 2 is more interesting, the Rockets know McGrady wants to dominate the ball, that is his playing style, and they also know he is not good enough or consistent enough doing that to really succeed in the playoffs. So they want to get a good style of play established to when he comes back, he has to fit in, rather than play the style he is comfortable with....
I am convinced in a contract year, when Tmac will need his touches to show what he can do, that the Rockets will trade him......if he conformed to their style the team would be better off, but after 11 years and him having individual success playing his way, I just think it won't happen.
And the Rockets can not take the ball away from Aaron Brooks he is just too good, and they need him to develop.
DD
I agree with your first reason, but your second is only a half truth. He has conformed to that style of play before which is why we had a 22 game win streak a couple of years ago. If you don't like him that's fine, but don't say it's better for the team to trade him based on your feelings. If he comes back healthy and playing team ball this club goes from a fringe playoff team to a fourth or fifth seed. A cooperative McGrady at a substantial discount is better than anything we could get in a trade for what he brings. To try and argue otherwise is illogical and foolish.
DaDakota
11-01-2009, 07:12 PM
Actually he conformed for a while but slowly went back to the old way of playing....and another issue is his contract, if the Rockets let him just play it out without trading him, they lose him as an asset for nothing.
I think he is toast...and yes...I don't like him.
:D
DD
The Franchise
11-01-2009, 09:39 PM
Actually he conformed for a while but slowly went back to the old way of playing....and another issue is his contract, if the Rockets let him just play it out without trading him, they lose him as an asset for nothing.
I think he is toast...and yes...I don't like him.
:D
DD
I just don't see anyone trying to give us anything we would actually want (young up and coming talent) for his contract. They are going to try and pass off garbage which Morey is to smart to accept. I also think he will be a Rocket next year if we can cut his salary down to about 10 million a year (which I'm sure will be the case, because nobody is going to overpay him with his injury record).
Cant_Be_Faded
11-01-2009, 10:07 PM
He's this decade's grant hill. His potential was off the charts. I thought he'd be better than Kobe by now if you would have asked me back in his early years. Sadly, he is finished. I'll believe he's back when I see it.
DaDakota
11-01-2009, 11:29 PM
I just don't see anyone trying to give us anything we would actually want (young up and coming talent) for his contract. They are going to try and pass off garbage which Morey is to smart to accept. I also think he will be a Rocket next year if we can cut his salary down to about 10 million a year (which I'm sure will be the case, because nobody is going to overpay him with his injury record).
Why would we pay him $10 million, he is at most an MLE player with his injury history, and even that is up in the air depending on how he does on an NBA court.
His injury history, the fact that he has 11 years of playing in the NBA on bad wheels and back, just makes it too risky, let some other sucker get pulled in by his talent and promise.
He had his time in Houston, it is time for him to move on.....
And, teams that are cash strapped in this economy will be looking to shed long term contracts for expirings.
Wouldn't you like to get Monta Ellis if you also had to take Biedrens or Maggette as a poison pill?
I think those are the kinds of deals you will get for Tmac.....
DD
Why would we pay him $10 million, he is at most an MLE player with his injury history, and even that is up in the air depending on how he does on an NBA court.
His injury history, the fact that he has 11 years of playing in the NBA on bad wheels and back, just makes it too risky, let some other sucker get pulled in by his talent and promise.
He had his time in Houston, it is time for him to move on.....
And, teams that are cash strapped in this economy will be looking to shed long term contracts for expirings.
Wouldn't you like to get Monta Ellis if you also had to take Biedrens or Maggette as a poison pill?
I think those are the kinds of deals you will get for Tmac.....
DD
Kill me
The Franchise
11-02-2009, 12:42 AM
Wouldn't you like to get Monta Ellis if you also had to take Biedrens or Maggette as a poison pill?
DD
No, I would rather have T-mac on a three year contract for about 8 million a year, with the third year being a team option. Monta Ellis's contract alone would deter me, and that's without factoring in his selfish attitude. He would also be a downgrade from a relatively healthy Tracy (as long as he keeps going to Tim Grover :lol).
DaDakota
11-02-2009, 09:05 AM
No, I would rather have T-mac on a three year contract for about 8 million a year, with the third year being a team option. Monta Ellis's contract alone would deter me, and that's without factoring in his selfish attitude. He would also be a downgrade from a relatively healthy Tracy (as long as he keeps going to Tim Grover :lol).
Fair enough, that was just an example, there will be deals out there that make the Rockets better.
See, the one factor most people are not considering is that if the team does not trade him, he can simply walk away, and the Rockets get nothing for him as an asset.
The Rockets hold all the power right now, but the minute his contract expires, TMac holds all the cards.
Trade him while you can get something for him, or watch him bolt and get nothing back.
DD
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