sons thuggin and buggin J.R. Smith is a tru blood ...

[BRHornet45]

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_12986511




Nuggets guard J.R. Smith's tweets are raising questions among fans. Several recent posts by Smith on his page — twitter.com/jr_smith1 — are written in a way that is commonly associated with the Bloods street gang.

Words that would have a "C" in them are replaced with "K," or if a word has both in them, the "C" is removed altogether. Smith has nearly 15,000 followers on his Twitter page.

"Those are still little messages that are being transcended back to some of the neighborhoods," said Rev. Leon Kelly, executive director of Open Door Youth Gang Alternatives in Denver. "Not to say in no way is he promoting a gang. But people got to understand that a lot of these kids come from gang neighborhoods. Their friends are still involved in doing what they do. Just because one was able to get out of that lifestyle, many of them don't forget where they come from."

On a post Sunday, Smith exclaimed "Vegas here I kome!" Last week he wrote that he "Kant wait to get bak in the swing of things."

A post last week, upon his release from jail, caused an online debate among Denver Post readers about the topic. Smith, at the time, thanked his fans and wrote, "I just Kame home. . . . I kouldnt have done it with out yall."

Messages to Smith and his agent, Arn Tellem, seeking comment were not returned Monday.

Smith, 23, is aware of what is posted on his account. Monday morning he implored those writing messages to "watch what you say on here it gets me in a lot of trouble!"

[MavDynasty]

thug ass bitch

[BRHornet45]

On June 9, 2007, Smith and two passengers were injured in a car accident on Stagecoach Road in Millstone Township, New Jersey, when the SUV he was driving collided with another car. Smith and a passenger, Andre Bell, were ejected from the vehicle at around 5:30 p.m. Smith's vehicle appeared to have gone through a stop sign and collided with the other car. Smith was taken to Jersey Shore University Hospital. Bell suffered serious head wounds before being pronounced dead on the night of June 11.

Smith's driving record included five suspensions in eight months, but was "in good standing" at the time of the crash in New Jersey. He was required to pay restoration fees and fines. Smith totaled 27 points against his record from April 2005 to January 2006, including eight violations on seven different days. Five citations were for speeding. Since the accident, he has received two more speeding tickets and three license suspensions in New Jersey.

On June 30, 2009, Smith pled guilty to causing an auto accident in which the passenger of his car was killed, after Smith drove through a stop sign and hit another car in a June 2007 accident. His friend, passenger Andre Bell, died as a result of his injuries. Smith was initially sentenced to 90 days in a Monmouth County (N.J.) jail, but 60 of those days were suspended, on the condition that he completes 500 hours of community service.

On July 31, 2009, the Denver Post reported that Smith was released from jail after serving only 24 days of his sentence

[redzero]

He is a truly worthless piece of shit, sons. I don't know how somebody can root for such an immature asshole.

[Findog]

He's a good player, but it would be hard to have to root for him on your team. I'd rather see Bruce Bowen put on the blue and green before JR Smith.

[IronMexican]

Id trade Sasha for him

[spursfan1000]

Oh well lets trade Bonner for him.

[weebo]

fukk that peep

[Hornets1]

No doubt JR has Talent! However
JR's Talent<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<JR's stupidity

[Bob Lanier]

Monday morning he implored those writing messages to "watch what you say on here it gets me in a lot of trouble!"
Ah, self-awareness.

[iggypop123]

so those signs he was flashing during the playoff game were gang signs. i knew it

[koriwhat]

fukkin' lame... i kan't believe the bs that is "this player is gang related by what he says and or does on and off the kourt". total bs!

[baseline bum]

Told you stupid fuckers he was throwing up B's in the retarded raptor dance.

[Summers]

That's just weird.

[MavDynasty]

raptor dance>

[DrHouse]

:lmao you were all cheering for him when he was lighting up the Lakers in Game 4 of the WCF.

[JustBlaze]

:lmao you were all cheering for him when he was lighting up the Lakers in Game 4 of the WCF.
Ah yes, great memories..:hat

[all_heart]

:lmao you were all cheering for him when he was lighting up the Lakers in Game 4 of the WCF.

yea, and like you wouldn't be rooting for Kobe in that hotel room in Colorado?!:rollin

[JamStone]

Don't see a huge deal unless he's actually involved in some serious gang activity. So he's a young immature asshole. So what? Like half of the league isn't immature and/or assholes or both. I don't care if he wants to pretend he's repping gangs unless he's actually doing criminal activity as well.

If I were a Nuggets fan, I'd be more concerned about his shot selection than whether or not he uses the letter "C" on his twitter account.

[JustBlaze]

^^^I'm more worried about fatass Karl subbing Anthony Carter in for him whether he's playing well or not.

[Thompson]

So he wears powder blue 16 out of 24 hours in the day and he decides to join the bloods? Idiot's gonna get Stonewall Jackson'd one of these days.

[23LeBronJames23]

So what if hes a Gangsta?

[iggypop123]

reminder of what people are referring to in the playoffs

http://static.manolith.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ept_sports_nba_experts-26741987-1243364000.jpg

[JustBlaze]

Reminder of what all_heart was referring to..

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2003/0728_large.jpg

http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/38701985_article.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/407812775_93f3290388.jpg

[BRHornet45]

Don't see a huge deal unless he's actually involved in some serious gang activity. So he's a young immature asshole. So what? Like half of the league isn't immature and/or assholes or both. I don't care if he wants to pretend he's repping gangs unless he's actually doing criminal activity as well.

If I were a Nuggets fan, I'd be more concerned about his shot selection than whether or not he uses the letter "C" on his twitter account.


son how about you tell all of that crap to the mother of the "friend" of his who was riding with him that he killed in the car accident that was 100% his fault. or tell the two people that he hit who are both still suffering from their injuries to this day ... son you see J.R. Smith seems to think that the law doesn't apply to him ... and his 13+ traffic violations proves that. (5 of those violations came AFTER he killed his friend and injured 2 others)

son this piece of shit shows absolutely no remorse for anything he has done and stunts like this make it even worse. the dude is a joke to begin with. he was pretty much born with a silver spoon in his mouth, yet he prances around in the NBA acting as if he was raised in the streets of Compton throwing up gang signs.

[mavs>spurs2]

Don't see a huge deal unless he's actually involved in some serious gang activity. So he's a young immature asshole. So what? Like half of the league isn't immature and/or assholes or both. I don't care if he wants to pretend he's repping gangs unless he's actually doing criminal activity as well.

If I were a Nuggets fan, I'd be more concerned about his shot selection than whether or not he uses the letter "C" on his twitter account.

You don't know much about gangs do you? And for the record, I'm not calling you out because of that, it's actually a good thing that you don't.

But you can't just rep a gang without really being a part of it. If he isn't known in his neighborhood or set as a blood, he wouldn't be able to throw up the signs without getting killed whenever he visits home. That's what they call "false flagging" in the gang world and it's something that can land you in a lot of trouble. I imagine this shithead is really a blood and that's why he does things such as running stop signs and getting his friends killed. He has that arrogant, don't give a fuck, attitude of a typical gangbanger.

[JamStone]

son how about you tell all of that crap to the mother of the "friend" of his who was riding with him that he killed in the car accident that was 100% his fault. or tell the two people that he hit who are both still suffering from their injuries to this day ... son you see J.R. Smith seems to think that the law doesn't apply to him ... and his 13+ traffic violations proves that. (5 of those violations came AFTER he killed his friend and injured 2 others)

son this piece of shit shows absolutely no remorse for anything he has done and stunts like this make it even worse. the dude is a joke to begin with. he was pretty much born with a silver spoon in his mouth, yet he prances around in the NBA acting as if he was raised in the streets of Compton throwing up gang signs.


What does the car accident have anything to do with throwing up gang signs? Are you saying he's never to act any other way but solemn because his friend died? If he laughs on the court, is he also not showing remorse for his friend getting killed? If he gives a high five, is he disrespecting his friend's mom? Come on.

[JamStone]

You don't know much about gangs do you? And for the record, I'm not calling you out because of that, it's actually a good thing that you don't.

But you can't just rep a gang without really being a part of it. If he isn't known in his neighborhood or set as a blood, he wouldn't be able to throw up the signs without getting killed whenever he visits home. That's what they call "false flagging" in the gang world and it's something that can land you in a lot of trouble. I imagine this shithead is really a blood and that's why he does things such as running stop signs and getting his friends killed. He has that arrogant, don't give a fuck, attitude of a typical gangbanger.

I don't know shit about gangs and what you can or cannot do. But, being known as part of a gang and actually doing gang related criminal activity aren't the same thing.

[Chris]

What a sissy little kukold

[hater]

so he killed his friend, he didn't really mean to. Kobe also didn't really mean to rape that white girl. and 99% of fans would take Kobe

I'd take him on my team if he kept contributing.

[rjv]

maybe he really spells like that.

[ManuTP9]

the high school that he went to in Lakewood in NJ is alot of blood activity there, i know because my cousin used to go to that school.

[monosylab1k]

fugazy

[Dex]

That kraps wak, kuz!

[Allanon]

With his talent, he could have easily joined Kobe and Wade as one of the top 3 shooting guards..

But he's always gonna be known as a problem player....such a waste.

[TheManFromAcme]

This kid is nothing more than fecal matter with arms and legs. I guess the saying is true; "You can take the kid out of the hood but you'll never take the hood out of the kid". What a shame.

They get all these millions of dollars, dollars many of us in here will never see and what do they do; act like ass-clowns with this gangster life style they choose to continue living. It's idiots like this who end up being broke 10 years after their retirement because their pea-brains won't allow any ounce of common sense.

Man, I hate gangsters.

[jb4g]

damn, who knew 24 days in jail could turn you gangsta.

[hater]

This kid is nothing more than fecal matter with arms and legs. I guess the saying is true; "You can take the kid out of the hood but you'll never take the hood out of the kid". What a shame.

what a stupid statement. george W bush is also fecal matter with arms and legs. and he came from no hood.

truth is, there are assholes in all walks of life

[mavs>spurs2]

I don't know shit about gangs and what you can or cannot do. But, being known as part of a gang and actually doing gang related criminal activity aren't the same thing.

If he's able to get away with throwing up the B, then he did do gang related activity at some point in his life. Of course he isn't still doing it today, but under no circumstances do you just join a gang for fun or to look cool. I imagine he ran with gangs as a teenager growing up

[jack sommerset]

Sons, he is no thug. He is stupid and dangerous because of it. Throw in all the money he makes plus the fact he plays in the NBA with fans who worship him no matter what, another death is sure to follow.

[TheManFromAcme]

what a stupid statement. george W bush is also fecal matter with arms and legs. and he came from no hood.

truth is, there are assholes in all walks of life

Whatever liberal. I am not talking politics here. Save it for another forum and spew your ignorant agendas elsewhere. Name your place and time and I'll show who the real fecal matter is right now sitting in the oval office.

We are talking about a basketball player here. And no, it wasn't a stupid comment. You must have had a real hardship early in your life Hater to think there are a**holes in all walks of life because unlike you, I know good people and smart ones at that.

JR is a thug and if he isn't a legitamate thug he sure in the hell acts like one and portrays one. I don't like that crud. I could care less what Charles Barkley said yerars ago regarding sports figures NOT BEING role models and that it was up to the parents to raise kids. That's a nice comment from that idiot but in the real world we both know kids eat up what they see on T.V.

You call yourself a Spurs fan? Tell me you would not want to see more David Robinsons playing sports than these JR types. Whether they like it or not, they DO HAVE a responsibility. But then again, what would your obvious political affiliation know about responsibility. And no, I have no hand outs.

YOUR comment was more than stupid. It was ridiculous on so many levels.

[anonoftheinternets]

You call yourself a Spurs fan?

Thank you fan police ... also aren't u a laker fan? Quit telling spurs fans how they should act laker fan.

[dirk4mvp]

Spurstalk should start it's own gang.

[BRHornet45]

What does the car accident have anything to do with throwing up gang signs? Are you saying he's never to act any other way but solemn because his friend died? If he laughs on the court, is he also not showing remorse for his friend getting killed? If he gives a high five, is he disrespecting his friend's mom? Come on.

son obviously you have trouble understanding ... the fact that Smith has received 5 additional traffic violations for wreck less driving after he killed his friend and seriously injured two others shows that he doesn't give a damn about the law or respect others. he thinks that since he was born in an upper middle class family, makes millions of dollars in the NBA that the law doesn't apply to him.

I never once said that he should live his life in total remorse because of the car accident. HOWEVER, I did say that actions like this gang sign crap makes him look even worse ... which it does. J.R. Smith is a piece of shit. terrible human being.

[TheManFromAcme]

Thank you fan police ... also aren't u a laker fan? Quit telling spurs fans how they should act laker fan.

Why thank you. I just finished the Fan Police academy last year.:toast
I see now. Gangsters stay togehter. I understand.

And yes, I am a Laker fan. Not a Kobe and the rest of his teammates fan. I am Laker fan and I go back a long way there boy-o. There's a difference and if your implying that I root for a team that has a "thug" element to them, I will be the first one to admit it and tell you I don't like Ron-Rons attitude and his "rapping" "ghetto" image he has. I respect the organization and it's long history. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Now, take a hike and beat it.

[IronMexican]

This kid is nothing more than fecal matter with arms and legs. I guess the saying is true; "You can take the kid out of the hood but you'll never take the hood out of the kid". What a shame.

They get all these millions of dollars, dollars many of us in here will never see and what do they do; act like ass-clowns with this gangster life style they choose to continue living. It's idiots like this who end up being broke 10 years after their retirement because their pea-brains won't allow any ounce of common sense.

Man, I hate gangsters.

This could be one of the dumbest things ever said on this site.

[hater]

Whatever liberal. I am not talking politics here. Save it for another forum and spew your ignorant agendas elsewhere. Name your place and time and I'll show who the real fecal matter is right now sitting in the oval office.

We are talking about a basketball player here. And no, it wasn't a stupid comment. You must have had a real hardship early in your life Hater to think there are a**holes in all walks of life because unlike you, I know good people and smart ones at that.

JR is a thug and if he isn't a legitamate thug he sure in the hell acts like one and portrays one. I don't like that crud. I could care less what Charles Barkley said yerars ago regarding sports figures NOT BEING role models and that it was up to the parents to raise kids. That's a nice comment from that idiot but in the real world we both know kids eat up what they see on T.V.

You call yourself a Spurs fan? Tell me you would not want to see more David Robinsons playing sports than these JR types. Whether they like it or not, they DO HAVE a responsibility. But then again, what would your obvious political affiliation know about responsibility. And no, I have no hand outs.

YOUR comment was more than stupid. It was ridiculous on so many levels.

oh you are a bush lover, that explains it all



This could be one of the dumbest things ever said on this site.


you know your are one dumb motherfucker when you have fellow lakerfans calling you out. :lol

[TheManFromAcme]

This could be one of the dumbest things ever said on this site.


I don't care Iron how dumb it may seem. The fact of the matter remains and it is still my own personal opinion that I despise all things gangster related or things assocaited with it. Sorry you think it's dumb but that is my own personal belief and stance. T

Can't argue with you really, YOUR COLORS tell me your part of the gang I am in. :p:

BTW, There have been far dumber things typed/posted (not said unless you have vocalization on your p.c.) in here than my alleged comment.

[JamStone]

son obviously you have trouble understanding ... the fact that Smith has received 5 additional traffic violations for wreck less driving after he killed his friend and seriously injured two others shows that he doesn't give a damn about the law or respect others. he thinks that since he was born in an upper middle class family, makes millions of dollars in the NBA that the law doesn't apply to him.

I never once said that he should live his life in total remorse because of the car accident. HOWEVER, I did say that actions like this gang sign crap makes him look even worse ... which it does. J.R. Smith is a piece of shit. terrible human being.


Apparently you have trouble following your own posts in a thread you made. You created this to complain about his thuggish behavior about his spelling on his twitter account and throwing up gang signs on the basketball court and then criticized how he thought that the law doesn't apply to him. Newsflash, it's not against the law to purposely misspell words or to make hand signals on the court. You want to blast dude for subsequent traffic tickets or for running with gang bangers, fine. That's not what I said wasn't a big deal. I said him not using the letter C on his twitted page isn't a big deal. Come show me the law that says it's illegal to replace the letter C with the letter K and you got me. Otherwise, stop bring butt hurt by misspellings on the internet.

[IronMexican]

I don't care Iron how dumb it may seem. The fact of the matter remains and it is still my own personal opinion that I despise all things gangster related or things assocaited with it. Sorry you think it's dumb but that is my own personal belief and stance. T

Can't argue with you really, YOUR COLORS tell me your part of the gang I am in. :p:

BTW, There have been far dumber things typed/posted (not said unless you have vocalization on your p.c.) in here than my alleged comment.

You said it like nothing good can come from someone that was raised in South Central, East LA, Compton, Watts and many other ghetto's around the world. I guess since I wasn't born in the suburbs I'll just live some criminal life. Pretty sure that's what everyone out here does.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

http://arcade.svatopluk.com/midway/mortal_kombat/mortal_kombat_logo.png
Thug Life?

[JustBlaze]

He deleted his twitter account, ain't that a bitch.

[TheManFromAcme]

oh you are a bush lover, that explains it all


you know your are one dumb motherfucker when you have fellow lakerfans calling you out. :lol

Does it bother you? I think it does. Ahhh. Go to North Korea or something. You'll feel better.

Because you have to resort to cuss words to convey your opinion tells me enough. As far as Iron taking a shot at me; No skin off my nose. He's a fellow Laker fan and has a free-pass of sorts but you? You have a avatar of a face I'd love to sink my knuckles into.

Try again, next time.

[IronMexican]

I don't usually like going at Laker fans. Wont happen again :)

[La Peace]

the fact that Smith has received 5 additional traffic violations for wreck less driving after he killed his friend and seriously injured two others shows that he doesn't give a damn about the law or respect others. he thinks that since he was born in an upper middle class family, makes millions of dollars in the NBA that the law doesn't apply to him.

I never once said that he should live his life in total remorse because of the car accident. HOWEVER, I did say that actions like this gang sign crap makes him look even worse ... which it does.

I have to agree with you on this one. Some one really close to him already lost their life on his watch yet he still gets wrapped up with the fuzz for similar incidents after the fact. Not cool man.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

JR Smith is a fan of True Blood? Cool....

[TheManFromAcme]

You said it like nothing good can come from someone that was raised in South Central, East LA, Compton, Watts and many other ghetto's around the world. I guess since I wasn't born in the suburbs I'll just live some criminal life. Pretty sure that's what everyone out here does.

Nah, Bro. Didn't mean it like that. I have cousins that grew up in Boyle Heights and all came out well. You know what I mean.

Nothing against demographics. It's just that growing up in SoCal I saw what thuggery did to many people....They're dead.

[hater]

Does it bother you? I think it does. Ahhh. Go to North Korea or something. You'll feel better.

Because you have to resort to cuss words to convey your opinion tells me enough. As far as Iron taking a shot at me; No skin off my nose. He's a fellow Laker fan and has a free-pass of sorts but you? You have a avatar of a face I'd love to sink my knuckles into.


Pop would wup your ass with his pinky, tough guy :lol

[hater]

Nah, Bro. Didn't mean it like that.

typical backpedaling

[JustBlaze]

son how about you tell all of that crap to the mother of the "friend" of his who was riding with him that he killed in the car accident that was 100% his fault. or tell the two people that he hit who are both still suffering from their injuries to this day ... son you see J.R. Smith seems to think that the law doesn't apply to him ... and his 13+ traffic violations proves that. (5 of those violations came AFTER he killed his friend and injured 2 others)

son this piece of shit shows absolutely no remorse for anything he has done and stunts like this make it even worse. the dude is a joke to begin with. he was pretty much born with a silver spoon in his mouth, yet he prances around in the NBA acting as if he was raised in the streets of Compton throwing up gang signs.
Son there are a lot of good things that athletes do that go unnoticed. Of course the bad always outweighs the good when your an athlete or a famous figure. Not trying to make excuse for what he did, but clearly it's not entirely his fault that both he and his friend at the time of the accident were not wearing their seat belts, which had they did, might have spared his friends life. However still, that doesn't excuse him from the fact that he ran a stop sign like a retard which resulted in all this, but at the same time that does not mean that he has no remorse for what he did either. I mean that was a close friend that he killed in that accident, you don't think he regrets it? As for his friends mom, she sounds very forgiving.

"He respects the Bell family and feels terrible, because this is somebody who was a good friend of his. He knew it was possible jail time. He's 23, a tough kid. He could have had 90, he got 30, and he's going to handle these 30 days and be stronger."


According to Hexstall, Bell's mother, Wanda, considered "J.R. to be like a son" and wrote a letter stating she did not want Smith to go to jail. Bell's family has filed a wrongful death suit against Smith.


"It's not like something like this happens and you just move on," Smith said Tuesday during the hearing. "I can't talk to 'Dre. . . . He's still a part of me."


Smith also apologized directly to Wanda Bell, who then blew him a kiss.
"I told her I wish the shoe was on the other foot," Smith said in court.
Nuggets vice president of basketball operations Mark Warkentien declined comment when reached Tuesday night by The Post. The team later sent out a news release.

[TheManFromAcme]

typical backpedaling

I am not sure but I am almost sure I wasn't conversing with you Hater. Go hate on other people you sour-puss.

[baseline bum]

I don't care Iron how dumb it may seem. The fact of the matter remains and it is still my own personal opinion that I despise all things gangster related or things assocaited with it. Sorry you think it's dumb but that is my own personal belief and stance. T

Can't argue with you really, YOUR COLORS tell me your part of the gang I am in. :p:

BTW, There have been far dumber things typed/posted (not said unless you have vocalization on your p.c.) in here than my alleged comment.

Haliburton and Goldman Sachs are the real gangsters.

[redzero]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/130/kingjamesu.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/kingjamesu.jpg/)

I like where this thread is going.

[TheManFromAcme]

Pop would wup your ass with his pinky, tough guy :lol

Pop probably would. I have no beef with Pop and actually love the hell out of him. Damn good coach and damn good person from what I've read and heard.

You on the other hand can probably take a lesson from Pop's book of grace and class and stop being such a, well,.....hater.

Your a Lib. I am a GOP guy. So what?

Lets leave the politics out of this and have dialogue pertaining to the subject at hand.

[JustBlaze]

^^ Goodluck reading all of that Mavs>spurs.:lol

[TheManFromAcme]

Haliburton and Goldman Sachs are the real gangsters.

Here, here. :toast

[LnGrrrR]

You know, I'm glad I never really had to deal with gangs where I grew up. There were some local ones in Lynn, MA but my family moved when I was 11 or so to New Hampshire... no gangs there.

[redzero]

You know, I'm glad I never really had to deal with gangs where I grew up. There were some local ones in Lynn, MA but my family moved when I was 11 or so to New Hampshire... no gangs there.

No Irish Nationalists or whatever they're called?

[LnGrrrR]

No Irish Nationalists or whatever they're called?

IRA, you're thinking of maybe?

The worst part of Boston is the south side. That's where alot of those gangs come into play. I lived on the north side of Boston... not as bad there. There's a lot of crime, but it's not very organized, afaik. Again, I haven't lived in Mass since I was 11, so things may have changed. (Except the South side... that's gonna be Irish for awhile hehe)

[TheManFromAcme]

You are way off. Most, if not all the all athletes represent their hood in some way, shape, or fashion. Wearing the colors, the caps, throwing signs, or just hitting each other up. You're taking this way out of context.

Growing up in the worst part of LA, during the worst gang and crack epidemic of all time, you learn to adjust, and adapt to your environment. As a child, the only thing you live for is just to go outside and play with your friends. As you get older, these friends become homies. At some point between 10-13, you make a conscious decision to either play sports, become a book worm, or hustle and bang.

In most cases, if the parent is not in the house to provide, then you're going to hustle and bang. You see the older guys in your hood driving nice cars, getting the pretty women, wearing nice clothes, and flashing lots of dough. Some of these hustlers still played sports, because this is what they loved to do while growing up. If you didn't choose to play sports, you never really lose that friendship with your homie that did play sports.

In most cases, if you're a serious athlete, your coach, or parent will try their best to keep you away from your friends that chose the life of a hustler/gang-banger. But they fail to realize that its not always a bad thing to have homies that gang bang while in high school.

I can remember on more than one occasion catching the bus, or just walking by myself, and a car full of gang-bangers would roll up, and hit you up, (what set you from?) I would always say I didn't bang, but their would be times when that wasn't enough, and you had some knuckle head that was eying your shoes, your jewelry, cap, or he just might want to whoop your ass to show off. It would always start like this; blood, don't I know you from somewhere? If you from a blood hood, your reply would be, yeah, I think I seen you in the streets, you know a nigga name Mookie? Mookie would be that one friend that you grew up with that chose the life of a hustler/gang-banger. And that would be the end of story. If you didn't know someone, or was from a rival hood, you better start running.

Most of the athletes get major love from the gangsters. When you see them, you greet them, (what's happnin blood, or cuz,) and its accepted. If you're not from the hood, then don't act like it, cause it could come back to haunt you in more ways than one.

At some point, guys like JR have to understand that you can not take the hood into Corporate America, whether it be to play college ball, or pro ball. If you choose to go back to the hood, then it should only be to change it, or improve it. You hear about so many athletes getting robbed, shot at, or even killed because they still hang out in the hood, or they choose to surround themselves with friends that still hang in the hood. At some point, you have to make a choice.

Excellent post.

You gave everyone in here a glimpse of what happens in the real world of gang-life and what it means.

[IronMexican]

laka, how old are you? I wish they asked questions. If they see you outside and you're Mexican, just get ready to run, throw down, or hope your strapped. There was a Mexican in my school(Washington) Who got stabbed to death with his own shank for having a bald head.

[dirk4mvp]

laka, how old are you? I wish they asked questions. If they see you outside and you're Mexican, just get ready to run, throw down, or hope your strapped. There was a Mexican in my school(Washington) Who got stabbed to death with his own shank for having a bald head.

Brah you better grow some hair.

[anonoftheinternets]

Why thank you. I just finished the Fan Police academy last year.:toast



Does it bother you? I think it does. Ahhh. Go to North Korea or something. You'll feel better.


lol pot kettle back ... telling people what they should do would fit right in NKorea .... :toast

[TheManFromAcme]

lol pot kettle back ... telling people what they should do would fit right in NKorea .... :toast

What? North Korea is a communist state?
My, my. :p:

[anonoftheinternets]

What? North Korea is a communist state?
My, my. :p:

no more like pretending to be democratic :toast, when in fact tramples on human rights ..

[BadOdor]

This back n forth between laker fans..just proves non Laker fans point..about how low class and what a shit hole L.A. Really is. Funny thing is that Laker Fan always falls back on the. You're Jealous Your envious blah blah blah blah..

mmmmmmmm..

Suuuuure...

LOL

Son, you're not making any sense now. L.A is one of the best places to live in the U.S, and you repeating to yourself that it's not really ain't gonna change it.

You wanna see a real shithole, go see all those obese fat asses walking alon the river walk in texas. That'll show you a shit hole.

[ManuTP9]

lakaluva you make some good strong points.

[ginobili's bald spot]

This back n forth between laker fans..just proves non Laker fans point..about how low class and what a shit hole L.A. Really is. Funny thing is that Laker Fan always falls back on the. You're Jealous Your envious blah blah blah blah..

mmmmmmmm..

Suuuuure...

LOL

Ummm what?

[TheManFromAcme]

no more like pretending to be democratic :toast, when in fact tramples on human rights ..

They should have trampled Bill "Bubba-Cracker" Clinton while he was there.
Shoots! They had their chance. :p:

[TheManFromAcme]

This back n forth between laker fans..just proves non Laker fans point..about how low class and what a shit hole L.A. Really is. Funny thing is that Laker Fan always falls back on the. You're Jealous Your envious blah blah blah blah..

mmmmmmmm..

Suuuuure...

LOL

Yes, and people are lining up at their nearest travel agencies to book the ultimate vacation to, of all places, St. Paul, Minn.

I won't bash you much for you live in a state where my beloved Lakers have humble roots planted. Your safe.:lol

[TheManFromAcme]

Bankrupt State economy Riots Gang war Hollywood wannabees Yeah its a veritable Shangri la. The Only People who don't realize LA SUCKS. Are the native Angelinos that haven't moved away from there. You have no perspective.

Here is a quote from an E-mail from my Cuz Cuz out in Redondo about LA,

"yeah it can get real crazy out here at the drop of a hat and for no good reason sometimes too, it's seems like everyone wants to be a movie star like Clint Eastwood "go ahead make my day kinda shit" the cold part about it is that you never know who's acting or who's foreal. yeah I love my little quiet Redondo Beach who cares if Charles Manson went to the same High School that my kids go to what difference does that make?"

gSN_AuI9S50

I was born and raised in SoCal boy. Don't come in here preaching about perspective. All major cities in the United States have a "shit-hole" element to them be it a barrio, slum, ghetto including your beloved St. Paul. Sure, L.A. and the surrounding southland has some crappy areas but being that you obviously aren't a much traveled lad, you wouldn't know. Instead, your world is Planet St. Paul and have yet to really experience the diversification of our countries cities both good and bad.

I now live here in San Antonio. Gorgeous city but it doesn't escape the reality that all major cities have; Some good folk. Some crappy folk.

Get a clue kid.

[OceaNus]

The clue is La SUCKS. Don't cry about it.

What are you, 14?

[baseline bum]

Anyone who thinks LA sucks is probably a fucking couch potato whose idea of entertainment is sitting on the Lazy-Boy with a bag of cheetos.

[hater]

Anyone who thinks LA sucks is probably a fucking couch potato whose idea of entertainment is sitting on the Lazy-Boy with a bag of cheetos.

so you can't fathom that maybe LA is not for everyone. shit, even BOwen said it "LA is not for Bruce" translation: "LA sucks"

[baseline bum]

so you can't fathom that maybe LA is not for everyone. shit, even BOwen said it "LA is not for Bruce" translation: "LA sucks"

"LA is not for Bruce" sounds a lot more like he he doesn't want to play for a bitter rival. The LA area has so much amazing outdoors shit to do, but it requires you turn off the tv.

[hater]

"LA is not for Bruce" sounds a lot more like he he doesn't want to play for a bitter rival. The LA area has so much amazing outdoors shit to do, but it requires you turn off the tv.

so all that matters in a city is having outdoor things to do? LA is great for vacation, but to live there. IT SUCKS

[baseline bum]

so all that matters in a city is having outdoor things to do? LA is great for vacation, but to live there. IT SUCKS

LOL. Living there means you can up and decide to go some of the nicest beaches in the country with a 20-30 minute drive. Or take a quick daytrip and go skiiing at Mountain High or Big Bear. Or another daytrip and climb the rocks in Joshua Tree. Or another daytrip and climb up Mount San Jacinto, Big Baldy, or San Gorgonio. Or a ferry ride to Catalina Island. Or a 20 minute drive to hike Griffith Park. Or a spectacular drive up the Angeles Crest Highway to go up to Mount Wilson. Or a 45 minute drive to hike Vazquez Rocks. Or a spectacular drive up the 1 north from Santa Monica. Or a quick daytrip to sample wines in Santa Barbara. Or a free trip to the Getty Center to see Van Gogh, Monet, Manet, and lots of other famous paintings. You don't run out of shit to do living there.

[ManuTP9]

LOL. Living there means you can up and decide to go some of the nicest beaches in the country with a 20-30 minute drive. Or take a quick daytrip and go skiiing at Mountain High or Big Bear. Or another daytrip and climb the rocks in Joshua Tree. Or another daytrip and climb up Mount San Jacinto, Big Baldy, or San Gorgonio. Or a ferry ride to Catalina Island. Or a 20 minute drive to hike Griffith Park. Or a spectacular drive up the Angeles Crest Highway to go up to Mount Wilson. Or a 45 minute drive to hike Vazquez Rocks. Or a spectacular drive up the 1 north from Santa Monica. Or a quick daytrip to sample wines in Santa Barbara. Or a free trip to the Getty Center to see Van Gogh, Monet, Manet, and lots of other famous paintings. You don't run out of shit to do living there.

i might have to plan a trip there when i have enough money, sounds hella fun.

[baseline bum]

i might have to plan a trip there when i have enough money, sounds hella fun.

Here's a thread with lots of recommendations:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129890

LA is cool, but the Sierras are really the place to be in Cali if you're into stuff like hiking/climbing. Sequoia Park, Kings Canyon, Yosemite, Ansel Adams Wilderness, and the Inyo National Forest are incredible.

[ManuTP9]

Here's a thread with lots of recommendations:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129890

LA is cool, but the Sierras are really the place to be in Cali if you're into stuff like hiking/climbing. Sequoia Park, Kings Canyon, Yosemite, Ansel Adams Wilderness, and the Inyo National Forest are incredible.

Thanks man ill have to look into it, i always wanted to visit LA.

[manufan10]

LOL. Living there means you can up and decide to go some of the nicest beaches in the country with a 20-30 minute drive. Or take a quick daytrip and go skiiing at Mountain High or Big Bear. Or another daytrip and climb the rocks in Joshua Tree. Or another daytrip and climb up Mount San Jacinto, Big Baldy, or San Gorgonio. Or a ferry ride to Catalina Island. Or a 20 minute drive to hike Griffith Park. Or a spectacular drive up the Angeles Crest Highway to go up to Mount Wilson. Or a 45 minute drive to hike Vazquez Rocks. Or a spectacular drive up the 1 north from Santa Monica. Or a quick daytrip to sample wines in Santa Barbara. Or a free trip to the Getty Center to see Van Gogh, Monet, Manet, and lots of other famous paintings. You don't run out of shit to do living there.

+1

Ah the beaches are some of the best. Stayed in Long Beach for a few days. LA itself wasn't that impressive, but all that was around it, I liked. The weather was simply AMAZING!

[manufan10]

I recommend eating here if you go to LA:

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/85/l_bd06d632062d428da219b99abd3ef974.jpg

Best hot dogs ever!

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/97/l_bd300b0fef7447359426302f445bd885.jpg

[MI21]

Why would he replace the letter "C" with the letter "K"?

I'm pretty sure that's not how they do it, I was under the impression they replace a C with the letter B; as in "I'm having a bup of boffee."

(Also, LA sounds awesome, can't wait to visit there within the next few years.)

[KSeal]

so all that matters in a city is having outdoor things to do? LA is great for vacation, but to live there. IT SUCKS

:rollin

[La Peace]

Westwood is amazing. I'll be back from there a little later.

[IronMexican]

so all that matters in a city is having outdoor things to do? LA is great for vacation, but to live there. IT SUCKS

The first thing I do when I visit a city is find out if they have great local news.

[baseline bum]

The Pastrami at Canter's is a must, if you ever visit the Hollywood area.

I'll second that. The lox is awesome too. Pretty much any sandwich is great, as is any soup. The bakery SUCKS though.

[Hooks]

Whatever liberal. I am not talking politics here. Save it for another forum and spew your ignorant agendas elsewhere. Name your place and time and I'll show who the real fecal matter is right now sitting in the oval office.

We are talking about a basketball player here. And no, it wasn't a stupid comment. You must have had a real hardship early in your life Hater to think there are a**holes in all walks of life because unlike you, I know good people and smart ones at that.

JR is a thug and if he isn't a legitamate thug he sure in the hell acts like one and portrays one. I don't like that crud. I could care less what Charles Barkley said yerars ago regarding sports figures NOT BEING role models and that it was up to the parents to raise kids. That's a nice comment from that idiot but in the real world we both know kids eat up what they see on T.V.

You call yourself a Spurs fan? Tell me you would not want to see more David Robinsons playing sports than these JR types. Whether they like it or not, they DO HAVE a responsibility. But then again, what would your obvious political affiliation know about responsibility. And no, I have no hand outs.

YOUR comment was more than stupid. It was ridiculous on so many levels.

"I guess the saying is true; "You can take the kid out of the hood but you'll never take the hood out of the kid". "


It was a pretty ignorant comment honestly.

[baseline bum]

I forget the name of the bakery a few shops down, but they have some very good cherry and blueberry cheese danishes. The cheese cakes are to die for. Damn, I could go there now. If I'm going to Universal for a concert or comedy show, I always hit up Canters on my way back. The prices on the menu have sky rocketed over the years. I was shocked as hell when I was in Vegas and realized they had one in Treasure Island.

Is the quality the same at the Vegas Canter's?

[TheManFromAcme]

If your ever in the east part of L.A. I recommend some King Taco. Much better than anything your going to find at a Taco-Bell or Del Taco.

Someone in here posted some pics from Pinks! MAN, I MISS MY PINKS!! :bang

[TheManFromAcme]

"I guess the saying is true; "You can take the kid out of the hood but you'll never take the hood out of the kid". "


It was a pretty ignorant comment honestly.

Fortunately, I am not the original author of this comment. To say you've never heard this moniker used in any context would be a complete lie on your end. It wasn't an ignorant comment if you apply it to the context as to how it was used and from where I stand, it was an appropriate comment to use with the name JR Smith.

[LnGrrrR]

Whats funny is most people from LA don't even know of some of the places you just mentioned, and none of it is expensive. Most states have a few highlights, and that's it. I think you can find a comfort zone even in Mississippi, but it is extremely limited.

Mississippi sucks. straight up. :)

Though to be fair, I haven't gone into the northern part of the state, only the coastal parts.

The Biloxi/Gulfport area is ok if you like casinos, or fishing.

Anything other than that, you're driving to New Orleans or Mobile.

[dirk4mvp]

Mississippi sucks. straight up. :)

Though to be fair, I haven't gone into the northern part of the state, only the coastal parts.

The Biloxi/Gulfport area is ok if you like casinos, or fishing.

Anything other than that, you're driving to New Orleans or Mobile.



There's not much in the northern part. The fun stops at oxford.

[LnGrrrR]

I have family there. They love fishing and gambling, and the women are the easiest on the planet. It makes up for the lack of activity, and the insects biting your ass.

Like I said, if you love fishing and gambling, you'll like Biloxi. I'm not a huge fan of either. :D

[The Gemini Method]

The Canter's in Vegas is not at all comparable to the one in L.A., but to each his own. When in Vegas, try the Philly Cheesesteak from Capriotti's...

[baseline bum]

If your ever in the east part of L.A. I recommend some King Taco. Much better than anything your going to find at a Taco-Bell or Del Taco.

Someone in here posted some pics from Pinks! MAN, I MISS MY PINKS!! :bang

King Taco's red salsa is great, and their carnitas, carne asada, and cabeza are outstanding. Sadly, their al pastor is crap compared to what you get from the street vendors in Mexico though (as is all other al pastor I have ever had in the US). My favorite East LA place is El Tepeyac though; their guacamole and red enchilada sauce are maybe the best I have ever had, and the Hollenbeck machaca is an outstanding burrito.

[baseline bum]

The Canter's in Vegas is not at all comparable to the one in L.A., but to each his own. When in Vegas, try the Philly Cheesesteak from Capriotti's...

The food quality sucks? Or you don't have that enormous menu like the original?

[The Gemini Method]

The food quality sucks? Or you don't have that enormous menu like the original?

The menu isn't the same, yes. The food wasn't that far from the original, but it wasn't the same. It could've been the day in which I went, but then again why go to Vegas when the original is in my area?

[TheManFromAcme]

King Taco's red salsa is great, and their carnitas, carne asada, and cabeza are outstanding. Sadly, their al pastor is crap compared to what you get from the street vendors in Mexico though (as is all other al pastor I have ever had in the US). My favorite East LA place is El Tepeyac though; their guacamole and red enchilada sauce are maybe the best I have ever had, and the Hollenbeck machaca is an outstanding burrito.


:hungry:

Stop it Bum! All I've got here is this lousy Taco Cabana stuff. Not bad if your really hungry but this Tex-mex crap doesn't come close to anything back home. There are some local dives around here in S.A. in the southside and west side owned by nationals that put out REAL Mexican food. The perpetual argument here with my local San Antonio-native friends is that Tex Mex is it's own cuisine and leave it at that. Don't dishonor REAL Mexican food by calling Taco-Cabana, Las Palapas or any of these other joints REAL. It's insane.

[baseline bum]

Taco Cabana is one of the best fast food places I have found in this nation. It ain't King Taco, but it beats the hell out of Del Taco. Taco Cabana makes great chicken fajitas. Las Palapas makes great breakfast tacos too - carne guisada, chilaquiles, and barbacoa are my favorites. Texas barbacoa is seasoned differently or something from Cali cabeza, and I prefer the Texas stlye. As for Texas guisada (brown) vs Cali guisada (red) on enchiladas, I like both. Cali definitely puts Texas to shame on pork and seafood, but the situation is reversed on beef. Cali/NW Mexico tacos are too fucking small too.

[baseline bum]

Every city is segregate...separated by classes...but In La its Worse than just about anywhere else in the US. You have people living in 120 million dollar estates. Now thats just not attainable by EVERYBODY in the city. So you have this class seperation that is pretty much a racial speration. LA is probably the most segregated community in the US. Blacks are in thier place..rich and poor..mexicans are in their place rich and poor..ect ect..

Furhtermore... its one of the most expensive places to live in the united states...Its is THE WORST major city to get around in the united states...Bar NONE... Because you idiots have people who want to visit to c Disnyland Knotsberry Farm Hollywood Blvd.Mans CHinese theater..ect..you think.."Wow my city is the shit" But people visit the Grand Canyon to See it..in the end its just a giant whole in the ground...

Do you know LA and Detroit...are neck n neck for the most major Race RIOTS in the united state... Race riots son... So.. EVERBODY and thier mother says detroit is a shit hole...even people in MIchican..but You fools in Cali..correct that.. you fools in LA COUNTY think your shit dont stink..its so bad..that all the rich white peole have move to Oroange COunty..a whole other COUNTY mofos.. your opionions have verry litte to do with facts...

Ok go to SF Sand Diego.. and askthose peole..Hey I'l give you a million bucks if you'd move to LA.. What deal.. It shouldn't be turned down..but I'm sure alot of people would...

FUCK THAT PLACE...

Much better than living in a city where the most interesting thing to do is jack off all over yourself, go to the Mall of America, or eat yellow snow.

[lefty]

I just watched Soul Men.

Cool movie.


The guy who gets beaten up by Samuel Jackson reminded me of J.R

[IronMexican]

eat yellow snow.

:lol

I really find it funny when people say "LA is a horrible city". I just laugh about it.

[manufan10]

:lol

I really find it funny when people say "LA is a horrible city". I just laugh about it.

I went to LA this summer. Not to shabby. I just don't know why they're going to spend billions of dollars on and underground subway. :lol A friend is going to move out there in November or December, so I'll be visiting much more often. :tu

[baseline bum]

The MEDIAN housing cost in LA is nearly 400k that means that a person or household need to earn 160k a year to JUST afford a 400k mortgage..

The Median Household income for California is 74k.. That means that the majority of people living in your state can't afford a house in LA.. Now lets go to Watts..or Compton..you name it... How many Black people can earn that amount of money?

I'm out of touch..

Your out of your mind..but that goes hand and hand with the outragouse statements Laker Fan makes...

No basis in Fact.. In reality.. in the existence of the universe they just say things and because they say them..

Then by god..

its true..

LOL. Median home price is about $360k in LA county, and if the person has decent credit (>=700), makes a decent down payment (maybe $20G), doesn't get suckered into an ARM, then the household is looking at spending less than $25G a year on that $340G 30-year mortgage even if he doesn't shop around and ends up paying 6% interest. A lot of money, but LMAO at the idea you have to pull $160G a year to pay $25G. :rollin

[Bob Lanier]

I went to LA this summer. Not to shabby. I just don't know why they're going to spend billions of dollars on and underground subway. :lol A friend is going to move out there in November or December, so I'll be visiting much more often. :tu
Usable public transit is a core element of a city not being a complete shithole.

[ivanfromwestwood]

Reminder of what all_heart was referring to..



http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/407812775_93f3290388.jpg someone please start a caption thread. this is to easy. example.."did you shit on yourself dawg?"

[mystargtr34]

Damn, $400K for houses, those were the days. I live in a mining town when im not at uni, and the average 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house goes at around $800K - $1M. If you want one on the beach (a shitty beach by the way) you have to pay upwards of $1.5M. This is all for just your basic house.

And the town is nothing but a working town - nothing really to do in terms of social activity.

Its crazy.

[baseline bum]

again your cypering is all off 25g is the mythic number your discounting property taxes.. do you know how much those are in California..

Property tax on a $360000 house in LA county is about $4300. That's offset and then some by the tax credit you get from the federal government, cutting about $20G off your taxable income (25% on $54G).



no you don't then insurance.. your 25 g is mor like 35 or 40 g wich is 34000 a month which is 40 k a year..


So you're paying $15G/yr in insurance? Now I can see why you're such a miserable fuck.



now if the median income for the state is 75k then they can't afford that mortgage already... so double that 160 at 45 percent tax rate..


Um what? Double the income so he's now paying 36% fed, 9% state? I guess it is convenient so the family just misses out on that nice tax break on the home. :lol




you state taxes 88 k a year gross income which is about half of that hosing obligation.. now food..now cars..now add healt insurance..


You state taxes? Why did we double the income again?Why don't you throw in a sick grandma and maybe a nasty criminal case too?



now food..now cars..


Cars? How many brand new cars do you want? How about Laker season tickets too?


now add healt insurance..


He's pretty fucked on that unless his employer is giving him something decent. Welcome to America.



and that using YOUR figure..


My figure is pretty easy to calculate; annuities aren't exactly like solving PDEs.



and MEDIAN is not an average there are more homes more expensive than that..


It's like you don't even understand what a median is. Averages are skewed by outlier samples... i.e., the fact that the Hiltons live in a giant mansion in Hollywood Hills doesn't have a whole lot to do with the price a typical (i.e., median) home fetches in the valley.



My aunt has a ol hose in redondo OLd and its on the books for 700k..


No shit a house on the far west side of town near the Pacific is far more expensive than one in the city itself. Who would have predicted that?

[TheManFromAcme]

Taco Cabana is one of the best fast food places I have found in this nation. It ain't King Taco, but it beats the hell out of Del Taco. Taco Cabana makes great chicken fajitas. Las Palapas makes great breakfast tacos too - carne guisada, chilaquiles, and barbacoa are my favorites. Texas barbacoa is seasoned differently or something from Cali cabeza, and I prefer the Texas stlye. As for Texas guisada (brown) vs Cali guisada (red) on enchiladas, I like both. Cali definitely puts Texas to shame on pork and seafood, but the situation is reversed on beef. Cali/NW Mexico tacos are too fucking small too.

:nope Your insane. That's a crap hole. If you like Tex-Mex stuff, go for it. Just don't call it a Mexican food joint becuase it's far from it.

[TheManFromAcme]

The MEDIAN housing cost in LA is nearly 400k that means that a person or household need to earn 160k a year to JUST afford a 400k mortgage..

The Median Household income for California is 74k.. That means that the majority of people living in your state can't afford a house in LA.. Now lets go to Watts..or Compton..you name it... How many Black people can earn that amount of money?

I'm out of touch..

Your out of your mind..but that goes hand and hand with the outragouse statements Laker Fan makes...

No basis in Fact.. In reality.. in the existence of the universe they just say things and because they say them..

Then by god.


its true..

Son,

Just stay up there in your wintery tomb and play dolls in your igloo. All cities have their issues including yours. Look at you; you still live with your parents. :lol

[JustBlaze]

Burritos >>>Tacos

[LnGrrrR]

usable public transit is a core element of a city not being a complete shithole.

+1

[manufan10]

Usable public transit is a core element of a city not being a complete shithole.

I took the bus while I was there. :D