lol broncos

[IronMexican]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/video/20590420/index.html


lol marshall

[Spursfan092120]

He wants to be a Cowboy. :)

[IronMexican]

Go ahead and throw the 1st and 4th Denver is asking for.

With the Broncos draft track record, it wouldn't mean much anyways.

[Shank]

Go ahead and throw the 1st and 4th Denver is asking for.

With the Broncos draft track record, it wouldn't mean much anyways.

Funny how someone repping the Raiders would make a comment about Denver's draft record.

Please, enlighten me - what about Denver's draft record? Ryan Clady alone trumps anything the Raiders have drafted in the last 10 years.

[Shank]

He wants to be a Cowboy. :)

Why? He already knows what it feels like to play .500 football and not win a playoff game.

[IronMexican]

Funny how someone repping the Raiders would make a comment about Denver's draft record.

Please, enlighten me - what about Denver's draft record? Ryan Clady alone trumps anything the Raiders have drafted in the last 10 years.

Ain't gonna lie, Clady's a beast. Look at the defensive track record, though. That team hasn't drafted a defensive player worth a lick in a long ass time.

And just cause my team sucks doesn't mean I can lol at other people? a lot of Spurs fnas lol'd at the Lakers in 2008 even they beat the Spurs.

[Shank]

That's on Shanahan, though. The guy couldn't draft a defensive player worth a shit to save his life. I'll give you that much. But on the offensive side, they've fared well.

[Shank]

And, actually, Shanahan got one right when he picked up Darrent Williams in the draft. It's just a shame the aforementioned Brandon Marshall had to go and get him killed.

[monosylab1k]

lol Mcdaniel is more like it. that guy was such a shitty offensive coordinator, I love that he's going to turn the Broncos into one of the worst teams in the league.

[Dr. Gonzo]

He wants to be a Cowboy. :)

Why would the Cowboys need him? Miles Austin >> Every Receiver Alive

[manufan10]

Why would the Cowboys need him? Miles Austin >> Every Receiver Alive

qft


:lol

[Dr Cox]

a shitty o cordniator? are you serious...look at what they did when he was there

mike did suck at drafting d players...except for dj williams ..they will turn it around with josh mcdaniels

lol raiders
lol al davis best owner in professional sports



but i do agree...marshall is a dumbass

but i do hope he stays on the team...if he leaves there is no way the broncs will be even mediocre

[monosylab1k]

a shitty o cordniator? are you serious...look at what they did when he was there

Corky from Life Goes On could have been Offensive Coordinator of the 07 Patriots, and they would have scored more than 14 pts in the Super Bowl.

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lol 5 sacks

[monosylab1k]

lol 5 sacks

that's what happens when the O-Coordinator decides that the best way to defend a heavy pass rush is to have Brady sit and wait for Moss to run 50 yards downfield and then try to bomb it every time.

[Taco]

He's being a jerk, needs to be suspended w/out pay

[Shank]

Corky from Life Goes On could have been Offensive Coordinator of the 07 Patriots, and they would have scored more than 14 pts in the Super Bowl.

You're seriously trying to discredit what he did in New England? Could Corky have lead Cassell to do what he did last season? He had a hand in the NE offense for more than just the 07 season. The guy is a good coach.

[monosylab1k]

You're seriously trying to discredit what he did in New England? Could Corky have lead Cassell to do what he did last season? He had a hand in the NE offense for more than just the 07 season. The guy is a good coach.

I'm telling you right now, despite all the scoring records and despite what Cassel did and despite everything that appears to be in his favor, he was an absolutely awful Offensive Coordinator. Absolutely freaking awful. I hated his offensive style the entire time, even as they were blowing teams out on a weekly basis.

Hiring Josh McDaniels is one of the biggest mistakes in Broncos franchise history, mark my words right now.

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that's what happens when the O-Coordinator decides that the best way to defend a heavy pass rush is to have Brady sit and wait for Moss to run 50 yards downfield and then try to bomb it every time.

Then maybe Brady should have grown a pair, told him to fuck off, and call his own plays, like Peyton Manning would do to his coordinators.

Manning >>>>>>> Brady

[manufan10]

He's being a jerk, needs to be suspended w/out pay

He was suspended earlier today for conduct detrimental to the team.

[Shank]

I'm telling you right now, despite all the scoring records and despite what Cassel did and despite everything that appears to be in his favor, he was an absolutely awful Offensive Coordinator. Absolutely freaking awful. I hated his offensive style the entire time, even as they were blowing teams out on a weekly basis.

Hiring Josh McDaniels is one of the biggest mistakes in Broncos franchise history, mark my words right now.

I'll trust my own eyes and the 180 I've seen in the way training camp has been conducted in Denver compared to years past. The guy is a real coach, despite what some may think of his age or his resume. The staff is well-rounded and the players are coming together. Yes, they'll have growing pains and may end up being a 5-11 team, but that beats treading water with Shanahan/Slowick for another season. I'll also defer to Adam Schefter and his friends that think McDaniels is a helluva coach and has a very bright future in the NFL. It just sucks that his first year is going to be marred by the antics of Cutlerfucker and BM.

What didn't you like about the offense? They beat teams with big plays, smart running, dink-and-dunk, whatever was needed. They used every tool available and would attack the weakness of the defense. Yes, they fell short in the Super Bowl, but they were a lucky Tyree catch away from winning that game. That offense was one that will be remember for years.

[monosylab1k]

Then maybe Brady should have grown a pair, told him to fuck off, and call his own plays, like Peyton Manning would do to his coordinators.

Manning >>>>>>> Brady

Brady's style has gotten him 4 SB appearances and 3 rings. I'll take that any day over Peyton's "fuck off, I'll call my own plays" style that has netted him 1 ring and about 50 chokejobs.

[monosylab1k]

What didn't you like about the offense? They beat teams with big plays, smart running, dink-and-dunk, whatever was needed. They used every tool available and would attack the weakness of the defense. Yes, they fell short in the Super Bowl, but they were a lucky Tyree catch away from winning that game. That offense was one that will be remember for years.

LOL before McDaniels was hired I'm sure you had this same opinion. I'm sure it wasn't "those overrated piece of shit Patriots got exposed for the overrated pieces of shit they are". And "smart running" is just about the last thing I'd ever ascribe Josh McDaniels.

[IronMexican]

Shank is a Bronco fan? lol

[BUMP]

McDaniels was an awful O-coordinator?

What does it take to a good one then?

Or even average at that rate?

[Stringer_Bell]

Without knowing much about the new coach's background, I can say with an unbiased opinion that he's weak. I don't buy into the whole youth movement when it gets you a coach that looks like he could barely command respect from a college team.

That said, Wade Phillips would fix this shit before it even started. BOOYA!

[monosylab1k]

McDaniels was an awful O-coordinator?

What does it take to a good one then?

Or even average at that rate?

Are you telling me that there is a human out there who could have a lineup of Tom Brady/Randy Moss/Wes Welker/Donte Stallworth/Excellent O-Line and put out something sub-par?

I'm telling you right now, Josh McDaniels did a piss-poor job with that team and it was the sheer greatness of Brady/Moss that made them the record setting 14 pts in the Super Bowl team they were.

[Shank]

Shank is a Bronco fan? lol

As hardcore and as long as I've been a Mavs fan.

2 rings, faggot!

[Shank]

Are you telling me that there is a human out there who could have a lineup of Tom Brady/Randy Moss/Wes Welker/Donte Stallworth/Excellent O-Line and put out something sub-par?

Jason Garrett.

[monosylab1k]

Jason Garrett.

Josh McDaniels is on par with Jason Garrett.

[Shank]

LOL before McDaniels was hired I'm sure you had this same opinion. I'm sure it wasn't "those overrated piece of shit Patriots got exposed for the overrated pieces of shit they are". And "smart running" is just about the last thing I'd ever ascribe Josh McDaniels.

I've never been a Pats fan, but I give credit where credit is due. 50 TD passes don't happen by accident.

By smart running, I mean getting efficient play out of 4 strings of RBs. When one would go out, the run game didn't take a hit because they were all proficient and capable enough to run the offense. He may have seemed a bit too pass happy, but their running game flies under the radar when talking about the offense. They were 13th in rushing in 07, 6th last year.

[johnsmith]

I hate football.

[monosylab1k]

I've never been a Pats fan, but I give credit where credit is due. 50 TD passes don't happen by accident.

By smart running, I mean getting efficient play out of 4 strings of RBs. When one would go out, the run game didn't take a hit because they were all proficient and capable enough to run the offense. He may have seemed a bit too pass happy, but their running game flies under the radar when talking about the offense. They were 13th in rushing in 07, 6th last year.

Fair enough, but I'm telling you right now, Josh McDaniels is going to be a colossal failure in Denver.

[Shank]

Josh McDaniels is on par with Jason Garrett.

Garrett couldn't have done with those players what McDaniels did that year. Garrett would have shit his pants in 2008 when Brady went down and he was left with Matt "Haven't started a game since high school" Cassell.

[Shank]

Fair enough, but I'm telling you right now, Josh McDaniels is going to be a colossal failure in Denver.

I'm going to give the guy a chance. Shanahan was a tired act by the end of his tenure. That, and he was dead-set in bringing back that faggot Bob Slowick to run that abortion he called a defense. Add to the fact that Shanahan couldn't pick out a defensive player to save his life and I'm alright with his dismissal. If McDaniels shits the bed in his first couple seasons, then I'll be fair and agree that he be shipped out. But, until then, I think he's busting his ass to put out a good product and I understand that they're in the vaunted "rebuilding" process.

Damn, I should hang out on the NFL boards more often. I can talk NFL more than the NBA/Mavs/Spurs anyday. I love this game!

[BUMP]

Are you telling me that there is a human out there who could have a lineup of Tom Brady/Randy Moss/Wes Welker/Donte Stallworth/Excellent O-Line and put out something sub-par?

I'm telling you right now, Josh McDaniels did a piss-poor job with that team and it was the sheer greatness of Brady/Moss that made them the record setting 14 pts in the Super Bowl team they were.

No, but i'm saying not many coordinators would be able to conduct a record breaking season like he did with that team.

And then the next year you insert a guy who's never started an NFL game in his life and they go on to a have a top 5 offense.

And you're still gonna say he's an awful coordinator?

[Shank]

By the way, I can't get enough of the backwards 50Cent gif:

http://files.getdropbox.com/u/28197/Gifs/fifty-wtf.gif

[Shank]

http://imageftw.com/uploads/20090802/15813286.4.gif

[Shank]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/jordanmacdonald07/fiddykitty.gif

[The Franchise]

lol Mcdaniel is more like it. that guy was such a shitty offensive coordinator, I love that he's going to turn the Broncos into one of the worst teams in the league.

As a Bronco fan I thank you. This man has singlehandedly sunk us with his arrogant approach to our top players.

[IronMexican]

That 50 cent gif is pretty gay/

[Dr. Gonzo]

Josh McDaniels is on par with Jason Garrett.

You are giving Jason Garrett too much credit.

[Shank]

As a Bronco fan I thank you. This man has singlehandedly sunk us with his arrogant approach to our top players.

I'd love to hear why he's responsible for this Marshall mess. Please, enlighten us.

[Shank]

That 50 cent gif is pretty gay/

YOU'RE gay.

[The Franchise]

I'd love to hear why he's responsible for this Marshall mess. Please, enlighten us.

I'm not saying he's totally responsible for Marshall (let's face it, he is an ass all by himself), but when you trade away the closest person to him on the team (who was a little bitch, but also happened to be a franchise QB.), shoot his trade request down, and tell him he's not getting a raise, (which he actually deserves) you can't be to surprised that he's not going to be excited about playing for you.

[Shank]

I'm not saying he's totally responsible for Marshall (let's face it, he is an ass all by himself), but when you trade away the closest person to him on the team (who was a little bitch, but also happened to be a franchise QB.), shoot his trade request down, and tell him he's not getting a raise, (which he actually deserves) you can't be to surprised that he's not going to be excited about playing for you.

If he doesn't have run-ins with the police 13 times in 3 years and doesn't make an ass out of himself, he'd have been paid already. Denver should have no issue with paying Marshall, but they also know they're 1 incident away from him serving an 8-game suspension. The front office was taking a stance of "play out your contract, keep your nose clean and you'll see your money". Why was it so hard for Marshall to follow this? Boldin is in the same situation in Arizona, but isn't being a cock. He knows he'll get his money. Marshall, though, is slowly fucking himself.

You need to keep an open mind with McDaniels. He's not a bad coach and will surprise a lot of people. But understand he's trying to build up both sides of the ball, incorporate a number of new ideas and philosophies and clean up some of the mess (read - coddled, bitch players) Shanahan left behind. The sky isn't falling in Denver, contrary to what some may think. They'll be alright.

[IronMexican]

ENGLEWOOD, CO—First-year coach Josh McDaniels took some time out from training camp to familiarize himself with the Broncos' competition Tuesday, spending the afternoon on the league's official website to see what other teams were members of the National Football League. "There are way more than I thought there'd be," said McDaniels, who was "shocked" to learn that franchises calling themselves the Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, and San Diego Chargers were not only in the NFL, but were actually in the same "division" as the Broncos. "I'd heard of the Steelers, obviously, but other than that, I thought it was just us and the Chiefs. Ooh, here's one called 'the Titans!'" When informed that there was an entirely separate conference called the NFC, McDaniels told reporters in the room to "get out of town."

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/josh_mcdaniels_checks_nfl

[KSeal]

lol broncos

[monosylab1k]

No, but i'm saying not many coordinators would be able to conduct a record breaking season like he did with that team.

A fucking pine tree could have been the offensive coordinator of the 07 Patriots and still put up record breaking numbers. On top of that, a pine tree wouldn't have thrown a hissy fit at Brady & Moss during halftime of the Super Bowl, refusing to adjust the gameplan in the Super Bowl that scored all of 14 points.


And then the next year you insert a guy who's never started an NFL game in his life and they go on to a have a top 5 offense.

That missed the playoffs.


And you're still gonna say he's an awful coordinator?

You're damn right I am. I saw every game he was the offensive coordinator, I saw every record breaking offensive moment, I saw every moment of the Matt Cassel year, and I'm here to tell you that Josh McDaniels is still a shitty coordinator.

[BUMP]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

If you're just gonna sit there and say "I watched the games I think he's a shitty coordinator" there's nothing i can say to persuade you.

[bugoy]

i feel sorry for broncos fans right now ....and im a texans fan

[monosylab1k]

If you're just gonna sit there and say "I watched the games I think he's a shitty coordinator" there's nothing i can say to persuade you.

Are you gonna tell me you follow the Patriots more closely than I do?

[BUMP]

No, i'm not saying i watch them as close as you do. But i do watch them, as do many others, and their offense is usually regarded as the model offense of the NFL.

Whether it be execution or play calling, the Pats always look so seamless when running their offense and they have for years. I don't understand why you think he's such a shitty playcaller, when he's proven with two different quarterbacks, he can run an excellent offense statistically

[monosylab1k]

No, i'm not saying i watch them as close as you do. But i do watch them, as do many others, and their offense is usually regarded as the model offense of the NFL.

Whether it be execution or play calling, the Pats always look so seamless when running their offense and they have for years. I don't understand why you think he's such a shitty playcaller, when he's proven with two different quarterbacks, he can run an excellent offense statistically

Statistically so can Jason Garrett.

[BUMP]

:lol he didn't do it with two quarterbacks like McDaniels. I still don't see where you're going with this, when all the stats obviously show he's a damn good coordinator. If McDaniels is such a shitty coordinator name 5 that are better

If he was still on the Patriots and people were giving him shit i know you'd be the first to be on his nuts :lol

[KSeal]

lol patriots assistants becoming head coaches

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

3 rings with Charlie Weiss
0 rings with Josh McDaniels

The proof is in the pudding. McDaniels didn't get it done developing a running game and was HORRIBLE at using tight ends, the two things that were winning superbowls for them before he got the job. It still makes no sense why Ben Watson has been so under-utilized for years.

[monosylab1k]

:lol he didn't do it with two quarterbacks like McDaniels. I still don't see where you're going with this, when all the stats obviously show he's a damn good coordinator. If McDaniels is such a shitty coordinator name 5 that are better

I can name 32 off the top of my head. Add in the other 6.781 billion people alive on earth right now, then throw in chimps, giraffes, chinchillas, condors, and various species of ferns, and so far we've got quite a few people, animals, or foliage that are better than Josh McDaniels.

But no, you're the Patriots fan who follows the team and watches every Patriots game. You obviously know these things.


If he was still on the Patriots and people were giving him shit i know you'd be the first to be on his nuts :lol

I've been talking about how much Josh McDaniels sucks for 2 years now.

[mookie_crew]

I've been talking about how much Josh McDaniels sucks since I became a fan 2 years ago now.

[monosylab1k]

It still makes no sense why Ben Watson has been so under-utilized for years.

Well to be fair, Ben Watson hasn't always played up to his abilities, and he's in dange of getting cut from the team this season. He's still a badass for running down Champ Bailey tho.

[Shank]

Mono is the only person ive seen call him a shitty coordinator. I've heard from guys that have been around the league for years as well as some highly informed scouts that say just the opposite. Not sure who to believe on this one.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Well to be fair, Ben Watson hasn't always played up to his abilities, and he's in dange of getting cut from the team this season. He's still a badass for running down Champ Bailey tho.


Do you not agree though that Weiss would have been able to utilize a tight end as talented as he is a lot more than McDaniels has?

[BUMP]

Do you not agree though that Weiss would have been able to utilize a tight end as talented as he is a lot more than McDaniels has?

You might've missed it, but i'm guessing mono is gonna say yes since he listed numerous things including some endangered plant species that are better coordinators than McDaniels.:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You might've missed it, but i'm guessing mono is gonna say yes since he listed numerous things including some endangered plant species that are better coordinators than McDaniels.:lol


We both know Monos loves using hyperbole :lol

Granted I never thought McDaniels was THAT BAD, I don't like how he moved away from what won them superbowls.

[monosylab1k]

Mono is the only person ive seen call him a shitty coordinator. I've heard from guys that have been around the league for years as well as some highly informed scouts that say just the opposite. Not sure who to believe on this one.

Yeah we all know you've got inside sources to everything and everyone. Hey let us know when the health care issue is going to be resolved while you're at it.

[monosylab1k]

McDaniels will be fired within 2 years, and he'll never win more than 5 games. Book it.

[Dr Cox]

McDaniels will be fired within 2 years, and he'll never win more than 5 games. Book it.



thats just stupid...there going to win there first 2 games this year...so they better have a big slump over the next two years after that

[monosylab1k]

He'll never win more than 5 games in one season. Although 5 games total in 2 years is a possibility for sure.

[J.T.]

He'll never win more than 5 games in one season. Although 5 games total in 2 years is a possibility for sure.

Did your brother get his Xbox fixed yet?

[IronMexican]

http://www.bangcartoon.com/2008/preseason_update.htm

I love BANG.

[Shank]

Raiders looking ready for the regular season tonight.

[IronMexican]

:lol yeah, that was pretty embarrassing. I lost all optimism after today.

[IronMexican]

Not gonna be a shutout though! Not in this house! YES!YES YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dickface]

AFC West prediction

San Diego 11-5
Oakland 7-9
Denver 5-11
Kansas City 1-15

[IronMexican]

mono, you're giving the Raiders too much credit right now. I still think they will be better than KC and Denver, though.

Nice sig.

[ChrisHansen]

Nice sig.

Have a seat over there for me would you please?