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duncan228
11-06-2009, 01:11 AM
Sit Duncan now please.

Death In June
11-06-2009, 01:11 AM
Well, this game is over. Fuck you pop.

Quiet Strength
11-06-2009, 01:11 AM
Seriously.. pops coaching sucks ass.. I was hoping it would be different from last season but nope.. still sucks ass

Chomag
11-06-2009, 01:11 AM
Dammit! where is that heart of a champion pride that Spurs used to have!!!

Libri
11-06-2009, 01:11 AM
get Tim out

there's not point

mexicanjunior
11-06-2009, 01:11 AM
What are Duncan and Parker doing on the court at this stage of the game? Pop must want to make sure they have no chance against Portland tomorrow...

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
:flag: <----- change it to a white flag please

TDomination
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
:(

this team has so much potential. they will get better. they have to.

symple19
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
I'm happy with a .500 record through the end of the month, if that's what it takes for Pop to figure things out. I'm not going to get all crazy with gloom because of this. It's a loooong MFin season, that's only just begun

Spursfanfromafar
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
This team sure doesn't look championship worthy as of now. The key of course is "as of now".

What Pop is having a problem with, is the abysmal defense. That explains his frequent chopping/changing of the lineup on the floor. But if he is making a point by such a strategy, that is not a good one, for it unsettles the players rather than helping them get the message.

CGD
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Jazz got smacked on the road twice, badly too. They were bound to have a rebound game. This is probably as good as the Jazz are going to look all year.

balli
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
really like his game, and always have since he was at illinois. you guys are lucky to have him
:tu Props to the Spurs nation in general for giving D-Will the respect he deserves.

DPG21920
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Duncan out. Rough night for that man despite the "numbers". He and TP need to pick it up if the Spurs have any chance.

alchemist
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
:bang :lol Boozer going 'David West' on us tonight, tomorrow I cannot wait to see Aldrige pull the 'David West' on us also. Not to mention the Vanilla Gorilla doing his best KG impression defensively on Duncan :lmao

ElNono
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
So we play Bogans an Finley over Jefferson, Mason and Ginobili now... :wow

Spursmania
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Duncan looks so pissed off.

SanAntonioSpurs23
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Finley hahaha

sammy
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Pop is the reason they lost! His stupid lineups of putting in Bonner & Finley to start are an obvious reason why we will always lose!

duncan228
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Duncan looked okay walking to the bench. Didn't seem to be favoring that knee.

Crookshanks
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Geez - why do we so often get the teams who are playing really angry because they got a real beat down the game before. We almost always lose these games. Spurs had no intensity tonight. It's like they figured they had an excuse because of all the days off and said screw it.

Death In June
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Alright...at least put Ian in there.

peskypesky
11-06-2009, 01:12 AM
They had too many days off - it killed their momentum. And then they're playing a team who got a beat down the last two games = loss.

This game really blows!!!!

i think that explains this game in a nutshell. utah needed a win. spurs were rusty. i knew the fucking long layoff would screw them up. and it sucks, because after looking lost in the first couple of games, rj was finally starting to look like he was getting into the flow.

rayray2k8
11-06-2009, 01:13 AM
Oh wow, the spurs are gonna get waxed tomorrow that its not even funny. :lol

Texas_Ranger
11-06-2009, 01:13 AM
Why the fuck isn't Matt Bonneshit now in the game? Does that piece of shit need to rest for the game against Portland or what?

Dex
11-06-2009, 01:13 AM
This team should do better once Pop stops starting two of its crappiest players.

Austin_Toros
11-06-2009, 01:13 AM
bogans is a bust

ElNono
11-06-2009, 01:13 AM
White flag... TP disappointed...

Libri
11-06-2009, 01:14 AM
Pop isn't even mad. He's just depressed.

mexicanjunior
11-06-2009, 01:14 AM
I really wish this was a home game, I would love to hear the ATT crowd booing this shit performance...maybe it would wake Pop up from his Bonner-Finley masturbation session...

Ice009
11-06-2009, 01:14 AM
Has Pop lost the team? He seems clueless out there.

peskypesky
11-06-2009, 01:14 AM
hey, at least we're not losing at home like LeShaq. or like the Lakers when they lost to Dallas last week. shit happens. even to the best teams. suck it up.

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 01:14 AM
still early.. but always frustrating to see a loss. give utah credit though they played extremely well tonight

balli
11-06-2009, 01:14 AM
Duncan looked okay walking to the bench. Didn't seem to be favoring that knee.

He looked cool to me. Got up on a couple shots. Possibly that brace was just messing with his gait? Good luck.

Spursfanfromafar
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
Pop is sure headstrong with his reliance on Finley/Bonner.. amazing. And Bogans..he was piss poor in the pre-season and he is as bad as then, now. What did Bogans do that, that dump useless McClinton didn't?

Austin_Toros
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
spurs should have just got mahinmi for this game and thrown him in the for the last quarter. even if he does nothing its as much as what bonner does.

slick'81
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
i dont know what happend to him but the kid is flat out bAd right now

oligarchy
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
Spurs look good. I see a title.

Johnny RIngo
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
RJ looks like shit and people said SJax's numbers a deceiving from last season. Maybe RJ is the one with the deceiving numbers.

And I thought I'd see a big 4 out there. Looks more like a big 2(Parker/Duncan) and a smaller 2(Manu/Jefferson).

peskypesky
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
bogans is a bust

yeah, as disappointing as mahinmi's been. i can't believe he wouldn't contribute more than bogans.

Morg1411
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
Geez - why do we so often get the teams who are playing really angry because they got a real beat down the game before. We almost always lose these games. Spurs had no intensity tonight. It's like they figured they had an excuse because of all the days off and said screw it.

Agree. On the one hand, this seems to happen to us a lot. On the other hand, figuring out how to win in those situations (just like tomorrow at Portland) is part of being a good team.

This was a piss-poor effort. Fuck Boozer having his Game-of-A-Lifetime.

Oh, and to be fair to all of the other teams I've said it to this year...LOL Spurs.

Chomag
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
BUt,but... its only the beginning of the season! It is for every other NBA team as well... no excuse.

sammy
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
So we play Bogans an Finley over Jefferson, Mason and Ginobili now... :wow

My thoughts exactly! Ridiculous! :bang

DPG21920
11-06-2009, 01:15 AM
Get used to it. Spurs are not an intensity team. Been that way for years. If you want that, you have to root for a younger team.

rayray2k8
11-06-2009, 01:16 AM
Here come the trolls!!!

Spursmania
11-06-2009, 01:16 AM
Yeah shit happens. But it's down right depressing to see Bonner and Finley starting and getting so much time.

The Truth #6
11-06-2009, 01:16 AM
Pop's final lineup to try and win the game was obviously not our best lineup. I'm curious what Blair's +/- is for the night.

SouthTexasRancher
11-06-2009, 01:16 AM
Damn, I have to be up at 4 am to take a 1000 head of wild ass cats to market and to do so we have to herd em across both the Frio and Llano rivers before we can load em up in the trailers up and I'm up watching this shit...gonna be a hell of a long day today! I think I'll just get drunk and be done with it.

Pop, you got a lot of work to do with this team and to make matters worse you ain't got no height nor any defenders on this team. Go bring the Admiral and Bruce out of retirement and suit em up tonight against the Blazers. Either that or make a stop at the Playboy Mansion on your way to Portland.

Austin_Toros
11-06-2009, 01:16 AM
still early.. but always frustrating to see a loss. give utah credit though they played extremely well tonight

yeah but spurs did not play D and allowed way to many easy scores.

Ice009
11-06-2009, 01:16 AM
I want stronger finishes at the rim. fuck the no dunks tradition I'm tired of seeing the Spurs putting up weak shit

Malik Hairston is the type of player you want then.

ElNono
11-06-2009, 01:16 AM
This is where Phil > Pop... Phil never gives away games when there's still a chance... 4 minutes, 14 point game, we have posession...

TDomination
11-06-2009, 01:16 AM
honestly, duncan needs to go up to pop and tell him to wake up and get bonner/finley out of the starting lineup.

we've started slow EVERY game so far. i wonder why

Doe
11-06-2009, 01:17 AM
Boozer's almost as annoying as Gasol with his constant yelling for fouls.

alchemist
11-06-2009, 01:17 AM
I really wish this was a home game, I would love to hear the ATT crowd booing this shit performance...maybe it would wake Pop up from his Bonner-Finley masturbation session...
The Spurs are playing with a whole different energy at home then on the road right now unfortunately, they'd be up double digit points on these exact Utah Jazz.

symple19
11-06-2009, 01:17 AM
My thoughts exactly! Ridiculous! :bang

This game has essentially been a practice since the start of the fourth. Pop is looking big picture

Crookshanks
11-06-2009, 01:17 AM
This was just one of those games where the other team is clicking on all cylinders and the Spurs are like an old jalopy that needs a tune-up. A Ferrari against an old VW van. :lol

Spursfanfromafar
11-06-2009, 01:17 AM
Yes. Malik Hairston would do a ton better than Piss poor Bogans/

wijayas
11-06-2009, 01:18 AM
Pop gave up...
Finley back

SanAntonioSpurs23
11-06-2009, 01:18 AM
I think we can all agree when I say fuck you Ian for not being the center we need :(

ElNono
11-06-2009, 01:19 AM
Somebody remind me why we paid Bogans while Hairston is sitting behind the bench?

SanAntonioSpurs23
11-06-2009, 01:19 AM
Blair> TD lol

Spursmania
11-06-2009, 01:19 AM
This is where Phil > Pop... Phil never gives away games when there's still a chance... 4 minutes, 14 point game, we have posession...

That's because his players aren't old as shit:toast

Allanon
11-06-2009, 01:19 AM
Over/under on whether Barkley rages on the Spurs in the post-game? :lol

Quiet Strength
11-06-2009, 01:20 AM
Damn blair plays hard all game.. if only every spurs player was like that

SanAntonioSpurs23
11-06-2009, 01:20 AM
Very very sad....

sammy
11-06-2009, 01:20 AM
Gee Bonner could you at least stop the guy! Two times the guy scored over him and he's smaller than Bonner!

Crookshanks
11-06-2009, 01:20 AM
Even the commentators were remarking about the fact that Duncan doesn't have another big man to play with - where one can be the shot blocker. Duncan is pretty much it in that position. Darn I miss the Admiral! Even Rasho would've been better tonight than Bonner.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 01:21 AM
give blair the double double so i can sleep easier tonight

slick'81
11-06-2009, 01:21 AM
well on to portland later today

Spursmania
11-06-2009, 01:21 AM
They score with a drive even in the last seconds just to accentuate our sucky D.

peskypesky
11-06-2009, 01:21 AM
it's time to start Blair and Mason

alchemist
11-06-2009, 01:21 AM
C.I.A. Pop? :lol

ElNono
11-06-2009, 01:21 AM
Bonner is terrible even in garbage time...

Ice009
11-06-2009, 01:22 AM
Fuck it. Deron desrves some respect and I will say it. FUCKING AWESOME game Deron. I have no problem giving him props as he is a classy player.

Quiet Strength
11-06-2009, 01:22 AM
Good job Utah on the win.. For winning this game the spurs give you bonner and finley.

sammy
11-06-2009, 01:22 AM
Even the commentators were remarking about the fact that Duncan doesn't have another big man to play with - where one can be the shot blocker. Duncan is pretty much it in that position. Darn I miss the Admiral! Even Rasho would've been better tonight than Bonner.

Fuck, Oberto was better than Bonner!

024
11-06-2009, 01:22 AM
i sense ginobili will be starting soon.

anonoftheinternets
11-06-2009, 01:22 AM
craig sager curse in effect.... pop: try again ..

usckk
11-06-2009, 01:22 AM
Start Blair!?!

Crookshanks
11-06-2009, 01:22 AM
And to think I stayed up late for this crap... :depressed

duncan228
11-06-2009, 01:22 AM
He looked cool to me. Got up on a couple shots. Possibly that brace was just messing with his gait? Good luck.

Thanks. I'm going to need luck worring about his knees this season. :lol

He's said the brace doesn't bother him. I hope whatever was bugging him is gone.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 01:23 AM
i sense ginobili will be starting soon.

i dont

peskypesky
11-06-2009, 01:23 AM
Blair would get a double-double in just about every game if Poopazit would just give him more minutes.

peskypesky
11-06-2009, 01:23 AM
Fuck it. Deron desrves some respect and I will say it. FUCKING AWESOME game Deron. I have no problem giving him props as he is a classy player.

totally agree. 100%. it's because he grew up in texas. :)

bigdog
11-06-2009, 01:23 AM
I will give Utah tons of props tonight. They deserve the damn win. The Spurs have a lot of work to do. I know it's only 4 games, but Pop has to change something in the lineup and rotation to get things going.

balli
11-06-2009, 01:24 AM
A Utah win against you guys is a rare bird, even at home. Good game, SA.

Vote Deron on your All-Star ballots. 8 > 3 :toast

ElNono
11-06-2009, 01:24 AM
Pop needs to realize that Tim doesn't have that lift anymore and he can't rebound for two guys anymore. He needs help. You can't put a complete non-factor in the paint next to him.

Ice009
11-06-2009, 01:24 AM
Man Dejuan played his ass off tonight. See him look over to the bench. He's telling Pop start me FOOL.

Bonner got scored on by midget scrubs. LOL I will say it Bonner is the reason Rasheed said FUCK NO to the Spurs.

024
11-06-2009, 01:25 AM
i dont
starting ginobili is the only way i see finley out of the starting lineup. mason is playing pretty shitty as well so no way he will get the nod over finley.

ElNono
11-06-2009, 01:25 AM
Good win Jazz!

peskypesky
11-06-2009, 01:25 AM
And to think I stayed up late for this crap... :depressed

me too. and i'm wearing my new spurs jacket. lot of good that did. :(

but at least my Yankees won last night. :toast

bigdog
11-06-2009, 01:25 AM
What I'm pissed about is the interior defense. I mean, come on. Okur was killing us down low. Fucking OKUR. That's pathetic.

Baseline
11-06-2009, 01:26 AM
Two words: Midseason trade.

We are not ten players deep. We are eight players deep, because two of the guys Pop plays, actually starts, are not even NBA players at this point. Too bad Pop doesn't realize this, and let's hope it doesn't take him until March to figure that out.

We need to acquire some type of post defender at midseason. We're getting shredded tonight. Did you guys see Okur go by Bonner on the dribble like Bonner was nailed to the floor? It's humiliating that the guy is on our payroll.

alchemist
11-06-2009, 01:26 AM
Pop needs to realize that Tim doesn't have that lift anymore and he can't rebound for two guys anymore. He needs help. You can't put a complete non-factor in the paint next to him.
Who does he play? Every single big is getting murdered in the paint, off the dribble and 2nd chance rebounds.

AussieFanKurt
11-06-2009, 01:26 AM
rofl at some of our stats and we only lose by 14

Chomag
11-06-2009, 01:27 AM
Allways have loved Dwilliams class and game. MAd Props to him!

sammy
11-06-2009, 01:28 AM
Man Dejuan played his ass off tonight. See him look over to the bench. He's telling Pop start me FOOL.

Bonner got scored on by midget scrubs. LOL I will say it Bonner is the reason Rasheed said FUCK NO to the Spurs.

LOL! First of all, Bonner shouldn't play at all unless we are winning by double digits in the 4th and throw his worthless ass in the game at the end as well as Finley! These two are the reason we always lose! They are totally worthless!

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 01:28 AM
Who does he play? Every single big is getting murdered in the paint, off the dribble and 2nd chance rebounds.

Ratliff should be getting 10 MPG IMO..he needs to see the court at some point, it's a glaring need..

Duncan is still a good defender, but like Elnono said, he can't make up for 2 guys anymore..

Chomag
11-06-2009, 01:29 AM
Two words: Midseason trade.

We are not ten players deep. We are eight players deep, because two of the guys Pop plays, actually starts, are not even NBA players at this point. Too bad Pop doesn't realize this, and let's hope it doesn't take him until March to figure that out.

We need to acquire some type of post defender at midseason. We're getting shredded tonight. Did you guys see Okur go by Bonner on the dribble like Bonner was nailed to the floor? It's humiliating that the guy is on our payroll.

Defence is played like that with feet on the floor hands strait in the air. At least thats what soem Bonner lovers are calling good defence.

bigdog
11-06-2009, 01:29 AM
Sure, everyone loves Bonner (kinda) when he's hot, but he needs to get the hell outta here. He's a good guy and can shoot(sometimes), but that's it. Get Bonner outta here. I'd rather see Haislip in there, even if he sucks.

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 01:31 AM
lmao at the meltdown outside of this thread

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 01:32 AM
starting ginobili is the only way i see finley out of the starting lineup. mason is playing pretty shitty as well so no way he will get the nod over finley.

so when gino parker get their rest , we hand the ball to hill,mason,finley?? great fcuking idea NOT...

SouthTexasRancher
11-06-2009, 01:32 AM
If I were Peter Holt, I'd be really pissed right now. Maybe this game has just passed Pop by. He seems to get more hard-headed every season. Finley and Bonner have to have something on Pop. No other coach in the NBA would be starting or playing those two even if they were down to 3 players. Hell, I doubt there is a college coach who'd be playing Bonner and Finley. It's gonna take Tim, Tony & Manu to go to Pop and lay down the law. Especially Timmy. If we're going to lose like this then get the 3 youngsters in street clothes suited up and put Bonner, Bogans and Finley in street clothes and buy em seats in the nose bleed section. This is pure crap!

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 01:33 AM
A Utah win against you guys is a rare bird, even at home. Good game, SA.

Vote Deron on your All-Star ballots. 8 > 3 :toast

Congrats on the bounce back win, you guys looked great tonight.

Johnny RIngo
11-06-2009, 01:33 AM
Man Dejuan played his ass off tonight. See him look over to the bench. He's telling Pop start me FOOL.

Bonner got scored on by midget scrubs. LOL I will say it Bonner is the reason Rasheed said FUCK NO to the Spurs.

That's what makes the Rasheed move to Celtics hurt even more. With him on the Spurs we'd no longer have to see Bonner in the starting lineup every night.

VivaPopovich
11-06-2009, 01:33 AM
Ratliff should be getting 10 MPG IMO..he needs to see the court at some point, it's a glaring need..

Duncan is still a good defender, but like Elnono said, he can't make up for 2 guys anymore..

Yes, with all the inside points the Jazz were getting, with that good game he had against Sacramento, I don't understand why Theo Ratliff didn't get some PT tonight

Riverwalkman
11-06-2009, 01:34 AM
There will be a lot of work to do for timvp and Kori, moving threads, locking thread, etc.

I'm not worried about Spurs at all, I'm just sick of those impatient fans.

bigdog
11-06-2009, 01:34 AM
lmao at the meltdown outside of this thread

:lol it's pretty pathetic.

alchemist
11-06-2009, 01:34 AM
Ratliff should be getting 10 MPG IMO..he needs to see the court at some point, it's a glaring need..

Duncan is still a good defender, but like Elnono said, he can't make up for 2 guys anymore..
Okay great, but after those 10 minutes? I saw the Spurs getting ran through from start to finish like a high school cheerleader.

VivaPopovich
11-06-2009, 01:34 AM
Congrats on the bounce back win, you guys looked great tonight.

Yeah, Jerry Sloan deserved a win tonight. Deron was terrific

Boozer is a pompous ass that doesn't realize what a great coach and PG he has working with him

slick'81
11-06-2009, 01:34 AM
barkley saying manu and timmy are close to finished and on their last legs

duncan228
11-06-2009, 01:34 AM
Jazz 113, Spurs 99 - Final (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2009/11/spurs-vs-jazz-c.html)
By Joe Alexander

Carlos Boozer and Deron Williams scored 27 points each to lead the Utah Jazz to a 113-99 victory over the Spurs on Thursday night in Salt Lake City.

* * * * *
The Jazz lead 107-91 with 3:09 left in the game.

The Jazz lead 101-88 midway through the fourth quarter. The Jazz are still hitting over half their shots for the game (52.7 percent).

The Jazz lead 95-84 with 9:03 left in the game.

THIRD QUARTER

The Jazz continue to foil the Spurs' defense. Utah scored 33 points in the third quarter and lead 93-80 heading into the final 12 minutes.

The Jazz lead 82-70 with 3:09 left in the third quarter. Timeout.

The Jazz outscored the Spurs 14-9 to start the second half. Utah leads 74-59 with 6:58 left in the third quarter. Timeout.

SECOND QUARTER

from Jeff McDonald - Halftime in Utah. Parker doing his bit, but rest of team struggling. Spurs trail 60-50 after bad defensive showing.

Tony Parker has 12 points for the Spurs. The Jazz lead 48-39 with 5:41 left in the second quarter.

The Jazz lead 40-27 with 9:37 left in the second quarter. Timeout.

FIRST QUARTER

The Jazz finished the first quarter with a 32-22 lead after outscoring the Spurs 18-8 at the end of the period.

Utah's Deron Williams has six points on 3 of 3 shooting. The Jazz lead 18-14.

Richard Jefferson has five points. The Spurs and Jazz are tied 14-14 at the first timeout.

Spurs starters: Tony Parker, Michael Finley, Richard Jefferson, Matt Bonner and Tim Duncan.

ace3g
11-06-2009, 01:35 AM
I think Pop should interchange Bogans with Haislip and Mahinmi for a couple of games at a time to see if they add anything to the rotation. We are having trouble right now grabbing boards and defending the Center position.

Ice009
11-06-2009, 01:35 AM
Ratliff should be getting 10 MPG IMO..he needs to see the court at some point, it's a glaring need..

Duncan is still a good defender, but like Elnono said, he can't make up for 2 guys anymore..

I agree 100%. Why can't Ratliff get 10 minutes per game. if he can't handle that why fucking sign him.

Harlemheat is 100% correct here. Ratliff would make a difference in 10 minutes. That's 10 less for Bonner.

mVp
11-06-2009, 01:35 AM
We'll be fine (I hope lol)

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 01:36 AM
barkley saying manu and timmy are close to finished and on their last legs

oh really...

VivaPopovich
11-06-2009, 01:36 AM
I think Pop should interchange Bogans with Haislip and Mahinmi for a couple of games at a time to see if they add anything to the rotation. We are having trouble right now grabbing boards and defending the Center position.

I don't know much about Keith Bogans but the minutes he has played he's been terrible

Where's Malik? Bring Bruce back!!!!!!

Quiet Strength
11-06-2009, 01:36 AM
I didn't expect the spurs to start the season winning all their games. I knew it would take time for the new players to adjust but i did expect better coaching from pop. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing anymore and his obsession with finley and bonner is pathetic. Playing those two players = fail.

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 01:37 AM
Okay great, but after those 10 minutes? I saw the Spurs getting ran through from start to finish like a high school cheerleader.

1 step at a time..

Setting the tone early is the most important aspect..momentum has a huge part in basketball, more than any other sport..

See how Ratliff plays and if he can give us anything..see if Hairston can help us out on the perimeter..

if they can't, look for trades with the expiring contracts we have..

alchemist
11-06-2009, 01:37 AM
If I were Peter Holt, I'd be really pissed right now. Maybe this game has just passed Pop by. He seems to get more hard-headed every season. Finley and Bonner have to have something on Pop. No other coach in the NBA would be starting or playing those two even if they were down to 3 players. Hell, I doubt there is a college coach who'd be playing Bonner and Finley. It's gonna take Tim, Tony & Manu to go to Pop and lay down the law. Especially Timmy. If we're going to lose like this then get the 3 youngsters in street clothes suited up and put Bonner, Bogans and Finley in street clothes and buy em seats in the nose bleed section. This is pure crap!
:lmao :lmao :lmao No freaking way?! Fans of other teams would kill to have a coach like Pop, us Spurs fans are unbelievably spoiled.

VivaPopovich
11-06-2009, 01:37 AM
I didn't expect the spurs to start the season winning all their games. I knew it would take time for the new players to adjust but i did expect better coaching from pop. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing anymore and his obsession with finley and bonner is pathetic. Playing those two players = fail.

What I don't understand was that small-ball crap he pulled in the 3rd quarter when the Spurs were getting dominated inside the paint on both ends. When your getting beat inside DO NOT play Michael Finley at PF, put Theo in!

alchemist
11-06-2009, 01:40 AM
Was the interior defense this bad last season? I don't think I can't recall it being this bad. Even with just Bonner/Oberto/Kurt

VivaPopovich
11-06-2009, 01:43 AM
McDyess doesn't look passionate out there, not the way DeJuan is always passionate and how Theo came off the bench with all that energy against SAC

Common Antonio, step up!

Budkin
11-06-2009, 01:45 AM
If I were Peter Holt, I'd be really pissed right now. Maybe this game has just passed Pop by. He seems to get more hard-headed every season. Finley and Bonner have to have something on Pop. No other coach in the NBA would be starting or playing those two even if they were down to 3 players. Hell, I doubt there is a college coach who'd be playing Bonner and Finley. It's gonna take Tim, Tony & Manu to go to Pop and lay down the law. Especially Timmy. If we're going to lose like this then get the 3 youngsters in street clothes suited up and put Bonner, Bogans and Finley in street clothes and buy em seats in the nose bleed section. This is pure crap!

Could not agree more... those guys are absolutely worthless and yet they get huge amounts of minutes... I just don't get it! It's basically the same situation we had at the end of last season.

SouthTexasRancher
11-06-2009, 01:51 AM
Could not agree more... those guys are absolutely worthless and yet they get huge amounts of minutes... I just don't get it! It's basically the same situation we had at the end of last season.

Maybe Pop will wake up and smell a strong cup of java left on the nightstand by Timmy and realize that it is a very bad mix having both Bonner and Finley on the floor together. It's early in the season but, hopefully the Chicago game along with this game will wake Pop up to change things up before it is too late and we fall too far behind. A lot can happen by the time the All Star break rolls around including a trade or two before the deadline if things don't look much better.

VivaPopovich
11-06-2009, 01:53 AM
A lot can happen by the time the All Star break rolls around including a trade or two before the deadline if things don't look much better.


Bring Bruce back!

duncan228
11-06-2009, 01:53 AM
Updated.

Boozer, Jazz rebound in 113-99 win over Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2009110526&prov=ap)
By Doug Alden

The boos that the Utah Jazz heard early quickly turned to cheers of “Booz!”

Carlos Boozer and the Utah Jazz finally put on a show worth rooting for, beating the San Antonio Spurs 113-99 on Thursday night.

The Jazz ended a two-game losing skid and undid a little of the damage done in an embarrassing loss two nights before.

“We played a lot harder,” Utah coach Jerry Sloan said. “I was proud of the way we played. Everyone was involved, trying to help each other and give us chances to win.”

Boozer, who had been struggling, finished with 27 points and 14 rebounds and Deron Williams also scored 27 and added nine assists in Utah’s first win over San Antonio since April 2008.

Andrei Kirilenko added 12 points and six assists and rookie Wesley Matthews scored a career-high 12 points for Utah, which improved to 2-3.

Mehmet Okur and Ronnie Brewer scored 10 apiece as all five Utah starters scored in double figures.

“Everybody was active, especially from the defensive end,” Okur said. “From the first second until the 48th (minute) everybody was active. That’s the way we’ve got to play every night.”

The Jazz shot over 55 percent in the first half and cooled off only slightly in the second, going 19 for 38 in the final two periods.

“We’ve got to finish off games like we did tonight,” said Boozer, who finished 12 for 20 from the floor. “We needed to play a full 48 minutes of basketball and that’s what we got tonight. Prior to this game, we hadn’t done that.”

Tim Duncan had 15 points and 13 rebounds and Tony Parker had 21 points, but scored just four in the second half as the Spurs couldn’t overcome the Jazz’s shooting.

DuJuan Blair scored 14 and Manu Ginobili had 11 points for the Spurs, who gave up a season-high 60 points in the first half.

“We’ve got a lot of work to do to become a good defensive team and Utah obviously took advantage of that tonight,” Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. “They are always an aggressive club and they do a great job of fighting for 48 minutes.”

The Jazz were coming off a devastating loss at Dallas on Tuesday, when they blew a 16-point lead and allowed the Mavericks to come back and win with a 44-point fourth quarter.

Utah smothered any comeback attempts the Spurs had and ended a four-game skid to San Antonio.

“We just did a good job of executing tonight,” said Williams, who made 11 of 19 shots. “We stayed within our offense. We got good shots and we got stops when we needed them.”

Utah was up by 10 at halftime and only let the Spurs get as close as eight before pulling away and protecting the big lead this time.

Boozer was shooting just 35 percent entering the game and was booed when he missed his first shot early in the first quarter, but quickly won back the fans with a couple of hustle plays. Boozer tied up Duncan and forced two jump balls in the first quarter, then carried Utah with his offense.

Boozer also had two steals, both times swatting the ball away from Duncan in the lane and had three assists and two blocks.

“They got the momentum going early on and got rewarded for their physical play,” Duncan said. “We knew it would be that kind of game.”

The Jazz led 93-80 after three and survived a brief lull before pulling away again.

Duncan got San Antonio back to 97-86 on a putback, but Paul Millsap answered with a layup and Boozer hit a shot to put Utah back up 103-88. After Michael Finley went 1 for 2 from the line for the Spurs, Boozer stripped the ball from Duncan to start a fast break, which Matthews ended with a layup to put the Jazz up by 16.

NOTES: The Spurs hadn’t played since beating Sacramento 113-94 on Saturday. … The Jazz outrebounded the Spurs 41-36. … The Jazz hadn’t beaten the Spurs since winning 90-64 on April 4, 2008, in Salt Lake City. … Matthews’ previous career high was eight points. … The Jazz hadn’t scored 100 or more points in a win over the Spurs since February 1999.

SouthTexasRancher
11-06-2009, 01:54 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao No freaking way?! Fans of other teams would kill to have a coach like Pop, us Spurs fans are unbelievably spoiled.


Actually, I am a big fan of Pop...BUT, he does need to rethink things for the long haul. Bonner and Finley just won't cut it...at least not on the floor at the same time and not for more than a few minutes per game. We look as old and slow as last year and we just had a 4 day break. We looked tonight like we just played the 6th game in 6 nights. :toast

marini martini
11-06-2009, 01:55 AM
sooooooooooooo, what's the score!!!???

Ice009
11-06-2009, 01:56 AM
Has Pop lost this team already???? It doesn't look like anyone really cared out there except Dejuan. I am serious Pop cannot do those crazy substitution patterns like he did last season.

I will give him last season because of injuries and lack of depth, but he can't screw around and do those crazy substitutions this season otherwise he's just fucking around out there.

SpurCharger
11-06-2009, 02:01 AM
No Energy at All.... Looks like they are just out there goin through the motions..... No hustle except For Blair.... Plus Pop Has No clue what rotation, and who to play with who.... I can see a 8-6 start.... we may not start clickin til Jan.... Oh Well, Im on for the ride no matter what happens...

marini martini
11-06-2009, 02:02 AM
Score?????????

duncan228
11-06-2009, 02:03 AM
113-99

SpurCharger
11-06-2009, 02:07 AM
He should have Played Ratliff, Blair, Bogans, Ginobil, Parker....... Alot of defense, and energy.....

SouthTexasRancher
11-06-2009, 02:08 AM
Bring Bruce back!


Yep...I said it earlier. Much rather have Bruce than Bogans. We have no perimeter defense at the present time.

dirk4mvp
11-06-2009, 02:10 AM
:lmao spurs

marini martini
11-06-2009, 02:15 AM
113-99

Thanks!!!:tu

duncan228
11-06-2009, 02:16 AM
Utah Jazz: Boozer delivers first solid game (http://www.sltrib.com/sports/ci_13726619)
Double-double » Jazz forward tallies 27 points, 14 boards.
By Steve Luhm
The Salt Lake Tribune

Just when the Utah Jazz needed it, Carlos Boozer put together his best performance of the season.

During the Jazz's 113-99 win over San Antonio on Thursday night, Boozer finished with 27 points, 14 rebounds and three assists.

He was also active defensively, helping Utah hold the Spurs to 41 percent shooting.

Boozer started quickly.

He played the first 7:21 of the opening quarter and scored four points while assisting on another field goal.

Defensively, Boozer opened on three-point specialist Matt Bonner but quickly switched onto Tim Duncan.

Almost immediately, he tied up Duncan on a move across the lane.

Less than two minutes later, Boozer blocked one of Duncan's shots.

By the end of the half, Boozer had a team-high 13 points in 19 minutes. He also grabbed eight rebounds -- one shy of his season average.

It was a far cry from Tuesday's 96-85 loss at Dallas, where Boozer finished a 24-minute performance with 12 points and two rebounds.

Meanwhile, Duncan wasn't a huge factor.

The Spurs' perennial All-Star managed six points, eight rebounds and three blocks. But the Jazz were able to inside and score 38 of their 60 points in the paint.

Boozer didn't slow down in the third quarter, when he scored 10 points, grabbed five rebounds and handed out two assists.

Boozer's first two field goals were tough baseline jumpers. The second gave Utah a 72-57 lead.

With 41/2 minutes left in the period, Boozer rebounded a miss by Deron Williams and scored a put-back that stopped a 5-2 mini-run by San Antonio and bumped Utah's lead to 78-64.

Another Boozer jumper made it 86-72 with 2:42 left before the Jazz power forward made one of his best plays of the game.

On a pick-and-roll with Williams, he took a pass in the lane. As the Spurs collapsed, Boozer kicked the ball to Wesley Mathews in the corner

The Jazz rookie buried the three-pointer, which assured Utah of a cozy 13-point lead heading into the final 12 minutes. Boozer didn't start the fourth quarter, but he capped his night with a 10-footer from the lane that made it 103-88 with 5:38 left.

Moments later, he jumped in front of Tony Parker and helped force a turnover that resulted a clinching breakaway layup by Mathews.

Bukefal
11-06-2009, 02:22 AM
Damn, I havent seen the game :(

TP and Blair seem to have played pretty well right?

spurtilldeath
11-06-2009, 02:22 AM
1. RJ looked as if he doesnt belong...he was mumbling at other spurs after missing his defensive assignments..he needs to do a better job.
2. lot of bricks.
3. George Hill was horrible.
4. TP has to ensure that he involves dice more on offense.

spurtilldeath
11-06-2009, 02:23 AM
Damn, I havent seen the game :(

TP and Blair seem to have played pretty well right?


Blair padded his box score during final moments..scrub time..
TP was ok in the first half, but was shut down by D-will in the 2nd half

rayray2k8
11-06-2009, 02:25 AM
1. RJ looked as if he doesnt belong...he was mumbling at other spurs after missing his defensive assignments..he needs to do a better job.
2. lot of bricks.
3. George Hill was horrible.
4. TP has to ensure that he involves dice more on offense.

The defense or lack of, killed the spurs. So did 2nd chance points for the Jazz... So rebounding was also an issue..

Snaq O'Meal
11-06-2009, 02:34 AM
Two words: Midseason trade.

We are not ten players deep. We are eight players deep, because two of the guys Pop plays, actually starts, are not even NBA players at this point. Too bad Pop doesn't realize this, and let's hope it doesn't take him until March to figure that out.

We need to acquire some type of post defender at midseason. We're getting shredded tonight. Did you guys see Okur go by Bonner on the dribble like Bonner was nailed to the floor? It's humiliating that the guy is on our payroll.

More than just trading for more new faces, the team needs an assistant coach like P.J. Carlesimo. It's no use having more talent only to see them being glued to the bench while watching Finley and Bonner eat up all their minutes.

Pop will alway be Pop; he'll always stick by the "pounding the rock" mantra at all costs. If four down isn't working, just keep pounding till something gives. If Finley and Bonner aren't working now, just keep pounding till something gives. Thus, an assistant coach with strong credentials will do wonders to mix some things up and inject a breath of fresh air to the team.

murpjf88
11-06-2009, 03:12 AM
This is how the spurs play on 4 days rest.
I knew hill was a joke. He's simply not ready. Now there isn't anyone to back him up. The spurs aren't going to be able to make enough midseason trades to get this team where it needs to be come playoff time. RJ is garbage. I never thought he was any good. Mcdyss was brought over for rebounds, and he's averaging 3.5 rebounds a game. Utah shredded them in the paint. The best the spurs could do was foul them.

Grades

Offense- C-

Defense- F

Rebounding- F

Coaching F-

Manufan909
11-06-2009, 04:18 AM
How the hell was Dice getting burned by Okur in the paint is what I want to know.

Brazil
11-06-2009, 07:08 AM
Lefty no more game threads ... thanks

silverblackfan
11-06-2009, 08:26 AM
That first quarter killed them and they never closed the gap.
Finley has to go from the starting line up. He is too easy to exploit and can't attack the basket. I would rather put Mason at the start and bring Hairston off the bench with Hill. Better defensive, explosive squad.
Use Finley when you can exploit a rookie or need a quick shot off a time out.

Tp9gospursgo
11-06-2009, 04:00 PM
I thought in the long run we just missed our shots and they made theres. I also think the officiating was terrible and we couldve had a chance at the end if they didnt give them so many points off the foul line!!:bang