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Spursfan092120

11-30-2009, 03:37 PM

Knew this was coming

Notre Dame fires Weis after 5 seasons

16 minutes ago

By TOM COYNE AP Sports Writer
SOUTH BEND, Ind.(AP)—Notre Dame has fired coach Charlie Weis after a string of disappointing seasons that was capped by an agonizing four-game losing streak.

Athletic director Jack Swarbrick announced the decision Monday, saying in a news release “We have great expectations for our football program, and we have not been able to meet those expectations.”
Swarbick says he recommended to the university president Sunday night that Weis be let go with six years left on his contract.
Assistant head coach Rob Ianello will step in for Weis until a new head coach is hired.
Following a 6-2 start, the losing streak began and as it progressed Weis’ future was in doubt.
Weis finishes 35-27 in five seasons, worse than his two predecessors, Tyrone Willingham and Bob Davie.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=txnotredameweisfired&prov=st&type=lgns

lebomb

11-30-2009, 03:44 PM

Wow..............I bet he has a few nice pay checks still left coming to him. 6 yrs left on his current contract? Who and the hell made that silly deal? At least wait till the guy wins 10 or 11 games in a season before the big contract.

vander

11-30-2009, 03:44 PM

they were but a few plays from 9-3 no?

rjv

11-30-2009, 03:47 PM

they were but a few plays from 9-3 no?

but to uconn and navy and a bad michigan team ?

gaKNOW!blee

11-30-2009, 03:48 PM

they were but a few plays from 9-3 no?

Yeah, evidently Weis can't recruit defensive players.

lebomb

11-30-2009, 03:56 PM

Like someone mentioned before..............Notre Dame has the huge tradition, but getting great players to attend a private university in a very cold climate is more difficult now a days. Especially when you have good football programs in the warm belt.

IronMexican

11-30-2009, 03:59 PM

Most saw this coming. Meyer wont leave UF. I think Stoops is on his way to South Bend.

CubanMustGo

11-30-2009, 04:01 PM

Most saw this coming. Meyer wont leave UF. I think Stoops is on his way to South Bend.

+1. The trend in Norman is downwards and Stoops needs to get out while the gettin's good.

IronMexican

11-30-2009, 04:06 PM

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/1109/682835.html

Already a verbal agreement?

Blake

11-30-2009, 04:08 PM

Most saw this coming. Meyer wont leave UF. I think Stoops is on his way to South Bend.

doubtful.

It's a bad fit for both parties and I doubt ND wants to pony up the $10 mill per season it would probably take to get him there.

IronMexican

11-30-2009, 04:09 PM

doubtful.

It's a bad fit for both parties and I doubt ND wants to pony up the $10 mill per season it would probably take to get him there.

Doesn't ND have the highest revenue of any other football program? I think it happens.

Spursfan092120

11-30-2009, 04:11 PM

Wonder what this guy would look like in Navy and Gold

http://blogs.courierpostonline.com/eagles/files/2009/01/010708gruden-300x300.jpg

IronMexican

11-30-2009, 04:13 PM

I think phone calls go like this:

Meyer
Meyer
stoops
kelly

samikeyp

11-30-2009, 04:29 PM

they were but a few plays from 9-3 no?

Or 5-7...If Michigan State holds them on the last drive, they lose in East Lansing.

johngateswhiteley

11-30-2009, 04:32 PM

Most saw this coming. Meyer wont leave UF. I think Stoops is on his way to South Bend.

that would kind of surprise me. do people think there's a real chance of that?

clambake

11-30-2009, 04:44 PM

10 million a year for stoops?

does he make that?

dirk4mvp

11-30-2009, 04:51 PM

Wonder what this guy would look like in Navy and Gold

http://blogs.courierpostonline.com/eagles/files/2009/01/010708gruden-300x300.jpg

If I was getting paid a lot of money to call people The Sheriff or The Surgeon on MNF, that's a gig I wouldn't be giving up.

gaKNOW!blee

11-30-2009, 04:57 PM

I still think Farentz is gonna wind up there....

Blake

11-30-2009, 04:58 PM

Doesn't ND have the highest revenue of any other football program? I think it happens.

eh, I've seen stranger things, but I just don't see Stoops leaving OU for ND unless they give him a blank check for the next 5+ years like they did for Weiss.

even then....

Blake

11-30-2009, 04:58 PM

10 million a year for stoops?

does he make that?

not yet

samikeyp

11-30-2009, 05:10 PM

Brian Kelly.

johngateswhiteley

11-30-2009, 05:14 PM

Brian Kelly.

thats what i think. oh, and $10 million a year is insane...for any coach. so, no.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

11-30-2009, 05:21 PM

A great recruiter who can't win bowl games..... Stoops sounds just like what Notre Dame is looking for.

vander

11-30-2009, 05:22 PM

thats what i think. oh, and $10 million a year is insane...for any coach. so, no.

imagine if they went and looked for a cheap up-and-coming coach and pumped 8 million of that into facilities and recruiting every year, much greater return on investment IMO

samikeyp

11-30-2009, 05:24 PM

imagine if they went and looked for a cheap up-and-coming coach and pumped 8 million of that into facilities and recruiting every year, much greater return on investment IMO

Which is why I think it will be Kelly. He will not cost as much as a Gruden, Meyer or Stoops.

gaKNOW!blee

11-30-2009, 06:05 PM

anyone watching ESPN?

"Charlie did win a national championship...he won one by having the top graduation rate"

lol

monosylab1k

11-30-2009, 06:22 PM

How is Gary Patterson getting so little mention?

TFloss32

11-30-2009, 06:26 PM

The Notre Dame boards are going crazy with the thought of Stoops coming to South Bend. According to students and players, it's all but done.

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/49362-bob-stoops-smoke.html

Weird side note...Stoops is in Youngstown, Ohio this week for his grandmother's funeral. She apparently was born in Ireland and that whole side of the family are strong Catholics and love Notre Dame. Food for thought...

TFloss32

11-30-2009, 06:27 PM

How is Gary Patterson getting so little mention?

Because he's going to OU when Notre Dame signs Stoops. :smokin

gaKNOW!blee

11-30-2009, 06:59 PM

Going outside comfort zone here, but credible people saying today they believe Bob Stoops will wind up coaching at Notre Dame next season.

- Adam Schefter

I know he's an NFL guy, so take it FWIW.

IronMexican

11-30-2009, 07:07 PM

How credible is Schef when it's outside the NFL? HE's the best in the business when it's the NFL, though.

gaKNOW!blee

11-30-2009, 07:10 PM

How credible is Schef when it's outside the NFL? HE's the best in the business when it's the NFL, though.

IMO he's credible enough where I don't think he would take a chance on something like that unless he had some true, legit sources.

Still means almost nothing at this point....who knows what will happen. I dont buy that Stoops isn't interested tho, like he has tried to imply.

dirk4mvp

11-30-2009, 07:24 PM

How did Dungy get in the talks? That's retarded.

DMX7

11-30-2009, 08:38 PM

Firing him with 5 or 6 years left on the contract was stupid. They obviously caved to the irate alumni base.

Duff McCartney

12-01-2009, 12:30 AM

I certainly hope Stoops doesn't go to Notre Dame. He's got a great thing going at OU even though they did have a down year. The fact is..he'll have alot of down years at Notre Dame.

The problem with Notre Dame is their alumni and boosters need to have realistic goals for that program. They have high academic standards, a cold enviornment, and they are Catholic...not every athlete wants to go to Notre Dame. That's why their teams stink so much...they can't recruit anybody when the power house programs like USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Florida, Alabama etc..have warmer climates..not so tough academic standards and the likes.

Realistically, it will be hard pressed for anyone now to get a national championship contender year in and year out in South Bend.

MajorMike

12-01-2009, 12:39 AM

You should have seen darth visor's presser. Very entertaining. He went thru great lengths to say he would be "in Oklahoma." He never said he would not leave to go to ND or take the job or talk to someone about it. In fact, one reporter asked him to simply say he wouldn't go or to say no; darth basically said, I don't like you way you said that and never answered him.

Zero way darth makes a lateral, perhaps backwards move to start over. Same for Meyer. Kelly is peeing his pants waiting for Meyer and darth to say no, and will be infinitessimally cheaper than either of those guys.

symple19

12-01-2009, 11:03 AM

Stoops would be retarded to leave OU for ND. The Domers need a defensive minded coach, whatever person that may be, IMO

lebomb

12-01-2009, 11:29 AM

I believe a lot of people look at teams that are doing well as of late.......USC, OU, Texas, LSU as the U's to coach at..............but ND is like the Yankees/Red Sox, Green Bay Packers and UK (college basketball)........the tradition, the holy grail of championship teams. Many still believe ND to be the end all place to coach, because that U and its alumni demand the most. At least IMHO....that is what makes that coaching job sexy. Even though ND is tough academically, a catholic school, and its cold as shit up there.

rjv

12-01-2009, 11:36 AM

tsb2000

12-01-2009, 12:18 PM

Meyer isn't going to ND. He was offered that job once already when he was at Utah in 2005 (after their first 12-0 season). You would have thought they sent the Pope himself to Utah to get Meyer, and the folks at ND were very (over) confident they would get him. To everyone's surprise, Meyer chose Florida. No sense for Meyer to leave UF now to go there.

bugoy

12-01-2009, 12:40 PM

well UTSA needs an assistant coach

MajorMike

12-01-2009, 12:57 PM

i actually think stoops is overrated. ever since he lost a lot of his assistants he started losing big games on a regular basis. the one thing stoops does have is a lot of contacts to texas high schools. but how many of his players would be interested in notre dame or would get in is a whole different matter.

The funny thing is, only his 2000ish (BCS win) assistants have done anything as coaches. Since he lost them, none of his assistants have panned out as HCs and he can't win a BCS game.