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coachmac87
12-04-2009, 06:39 PM
Trade works...But is it possible??? Probably not. But hell I think all 3 teams win if this was actually to happen.

Thoughts??

kbrury
12-04-2009, 06:42 PM
You just linked the trade machine, but if it involves Lopez its a no. Oh Spurs aren't trading RJ either lol.

coachmac87
12-04-2009, 06:47 PM
Spurs Recieve

Al Thornton
Marcus Camby

Clippers Recieve

Bobby Simmons
Yi Jianlian

Nets Recieve

Richard Jefferson
DeAndre Jordan

kbrury
12-04-2009, 06:49 PM
Clippers got raped in that trade they don't get anything in return.

coachmac87
12-04-2009, 06:51 PM
I wouldnt say raped..But they have China on their back and basically got rid of 2 players that had a 0% chance of re-signing.

Kamanm,Griffin, and Yi off the bench aint a bad rotation for bigs

kbrury
12-04-2009, 06:53 PM
Clippers want to get rid of Kaman before anyone else since Camby is expiring, and I think they like Thornton.

coachmac87
12-04-2009, 06:58 PM
Clippers want to get rid of Kaman before anyone else since Camby is expiring, and I think they like Thornton.

Im sure the "like" Thornton but are they willing to pay up in order to keep him??

kbrury
12-04-2009, 07:00 PM
Im sure the "like" Thornton but are they willing to pay up in order to keep him??

I don't think he is going to get that big of an offer from another team but it is the Clippers so he will probably leave. That being said he is very talented and I think they will try and keep him.

coachmac87
12-04-2009, 07:04 PM
I think he will ask for 8-10 Mil yr. If ur the Spurs would you push hard to re-sign Thornton??

SpurNation
12-04-2009, 07:16 PM
RJ is a Spur for 3 more years. Nobody is going to be willing to take on his contract. Our best hope for getting somebody close to RJ's numbers in stats, experience and salary that actually would fit in this system has been traded to the Bobcats.

Otherwise...give it time to see how he will develop. I remember Horry having a horrible first year as a Spur. Then being instumental in helping the team win another championship.

kbrury
12-04-2009, 07:20 PM
RJ is a Spur for 3 more years. Nobody is going to be willing to take on his contract. Our best hope for getting somebody close to RJ's numbers in stats, experience and salary that actually would fit in this system has been traded to the Bobcats.

Otherwise...give it time to see how he will develop. I remember Horry having a horrible first year as a Spur. Then being instumental in helping the team win another championship.

You mean 2 years right.

HarlemHeat37
12-04-2009, 07:24 PM
Even if somebody wanted to take RJ's bad contract, why the hell would we take Al Thornton?..he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA, and he's a cancer on the court..

Allanon
12-04-2009, 07:37 PM
Even if somebody wanted to take RJ's bad contract, why the hell would we take Al Thornton?..he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA, and he's a cancer on the court..

Agreed. Spurs don't want Al Thornton.

Thornton's one of those guys that I think just plays for the money. He doesn't work on his game and is still the same skill level he was as a rookie.

Rogue
12-04-2009, 08:19 PM
Spurs Recieve

Al Thornton
Marcus Camby

Clippers Recieve

Bobby Simmons
Yi Jianlian

Nets Recieve

Richard Jefferson
DeAndre Jordan

unfortunately no gm of the 3 teams would be so dumb as you to get this deal done, or at least Clippers GM is definitely not retarded enough to make it true. I mean for what insane fucking reason should the Clippers trade an expiring contract plus a talented youngster for two pieces of shit?

Ditty
12-04-2009, 08:30 PM
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SpursWench21
12-04-2009, 08:48 PM
thorton takes TERRRRRIBLE shots.. but i read his decision making is slowly getting better..im sure beast griffin will help once he gets back and controls the game

MaNu4Tres
12-04-2009, 09:21 PM
This thread is full of fail.

murpjf88
12-04-2009, 09:24 PM
NOBODY will take RJ off the spurs hands. NOBODY other than the spurs wanted him in the first place. The spurs are stuck with him for the duration.

Leetonidas
12-04-2009, 09:27 PM
RJ won't be traded unless we take on another horrible contract. End of story.

dbestpro
12-04-2009, 09:52 PM
RJ ain't going no where. Get use to it.

Ditty
12-04-2009, 09:56 PM
I know soo stfu when if hes playing like this until the all star break then ill agree trading his ass but yet hes still new so get use to it or be like the some of the other bandwagon spurs fans on here

outmap
12-04-2009, 10:08 PM
Let's hope Cleveland's record will fall before trade deadline that they will be desperate enough to make a stupid trade with us. 'Bron for Jeff! LOL :downspin::hat:p:

Mel_13
12-04-2009, 10:52 PM
All other reasons aside, the proposed trade would never be considered by NJ. They have shed a series of big contracts to put themselves in position to go after a big name FA in 2010. They're not putting RJ's 15M salary back on the books for next summer.

itzsoweezee
12-04-2009, 10:53 PM
he played excellent D on pierce

Mel_13
12-04-2009, 10:57 PM
he played excellent D on pierce

Nobody seemed to notice that Pierce had his worst night of the season. 8 pts on 2-9 shooting, with only 2 rebounds, zero assists, and three turnovers.

tp2021
12-05-2009, 01:32 AM
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DynastySpurs210
12-05-2009, 01:42 AM
um how about Trading RJ and TP for Amare and Cash??

Chieflion
12-05-2009, 01:44 AM
um how about Trading RJ and TP for Amare and Cash??
Salaries don't match. We don't want Amare. Why the fuck would stingy Sarver give the Spurs cash?

Leetonidas
12-05-2009, 01:45 AM
he played excellent D on pierce

That's true, and no one really noticed. He pretty much shut down Pierce, I was quite surprised.

poop
12-05-2009, 01:47 AM
That's true, and no one really noticed. He pretty much shut down Pierce, I was quite surprised.

yes this went unnoticed, Pierce didnt do SHIT the entire game, even in the end when hes one of the best clutch players in the game, he didnt do ANYTHING.

never seen that before. great defensive job by dick jeff.

UndergroundFame
12-05-2009, 01:58 AM
um how about Trading RJ and TP for Amare and Cash??

Hey that's a great idea!!

ezau
12-05-2009, 05:15 AM
RJ stopping Pierce last night was phenomenal. Sure, he only had four points but he was covering Boston's most versatile perimeter player all night long. You bitches need to shut up

ThaiFanofSpurs
12-05-2009, 06:22 AM
he played excellent D on pierce

Agreed! If the Spurs' goal has been to establish solid defensive play, I suppose RJ now is trying to do what the team and coaches want him to do. That is him being focused on defense. Hopefully, we will see RJ with high ability on both defense and offense soon.

spurs50_
12-05-2009, 07:37 AM
It doesn't matter who we get if Pop doesn't draw up plays for him......damn

Baseline
12-05-2009, 12:10 PM
Pop makes things unnecessarily difficult for new guys. This is just a fact. New guys are basically worthless for the entire first year. But there's no excuse for that this year. Manu said it himself - we have to win this year. We're 9-7, so what's so special about what we're doing? Pop's "schemes" are so ingenius that he has us two games above .500 and our payroll is higher than it has ever been.

Just let the guy play his game, Pop. It's obvious that he's out there thinking, not just playing, not just reacting. The guy is super athletic. Have we even run an alley-oop for RJ? I guess that's not in Pop's fabled playbook.

Players win games, and you have the personnel, Pop. So make it happen.

We had 18 turnovers against Boston. If we played as loose as Golden State, there's still no way we amass 18 turnovers. Pop doesn't allow guys to play loose. He's a regimented coach, and guys play scared and hesitently. That's what we saw from Brent Barry until the last year he was aSpur, when he dodn't care. That's what we saw from Finley for his first probably two years. And it's definitely what we're seeing from RJ. Trouble is, we don't have two years to wait. We don't have three months to wait. Right now we're fighting for a playoff spot. Forget a top three seed. A playoff spot, people.

TJastal
12-05-2009, 12:15 PM
Pop makes things unnecessarily difficult for new guys. This is just a fact. New guys are basically worthless for the entire first year. But there's no excuse for that this year. Manu said it himself - we have to win this year. We're 9-7, so what's so special about what we're doing? Pop's "schemes" are so ingenius that he has us two games above .500 and our payroll is higher than it has ever been.

Just let the guy play his game, Pop. It's obvious that he's out there thinking, not just playing, not just reacting. The guy is super athletic. Have we even run an alley-oop for RJ? I guess that's not in Pop's fabled playbook.

Players win games, and you have the personnel, Pop. So make it happen.

We had 18 turnovers against Boston. If we played as loose as Golden State, there's still no way we amass 18 turnovers. Pop doesn't allow guys to play loose. He's a regimented coach, and guys play scared and hesitently. That's what we saw from Brent Barry until the last year he was aSpur, when he dodn't care. That's what we saw from Finley for his first probably two years. And it's definitely what we're seeing from RJ. Trouble is, we don't have two years to wait. We don't have three months to wait. Right now we're fighting for a playoff spot. Forget a top three seed. A playoff spot, people.

Nice take. McDyess' is having similar problems adjusting to Pop's schemes. I think Pop just needs to let the guys' play during the games and quit micro-managing every possession. Save all that for the day after game tape session.

Baseline
12-05-2009, 01:39 PM
Nice take. McDyess' is having similar problems adjusting to Pop's schemes. I think Pop just needs to let the guys' play during the games and quit micro-managing every possession. Save all that for the day after game tape session.

Totally agree. When a guy like McDyess says both Pop's offensive and defensive schemes are more complicated than anything he's ever seen, it sends up a red flag.

I just feel like we have so much talent on this team that there isn't a great need to overcomplicate matters. I'm not saying we should roll the ball out there and see what happens, but at the same time, we're not plotting a tactical military coup here either. It's freaking basketball, and we have the personnel to win it all this year.

'Splain me this -- how does Pau Gasol join the Lakers in mid-season in 2008 and immediately play like an all-star when the triangle offense is supposedly something that takes years to learn? Gasol didn't look lost out there. But right now we have multiple guys who look lost, and our veteran point guard even looks lost.

One more thing - if our offense is so complicated, why do most possessions come down to Parker dribbling the air out of the ball and somebody having to make something happen in the last five seconds of the shot clock?

angelbelow
12-05-2009, 03:06 PM
Spurs receive:
Kobe Bryant
Lebron James

Lakers receive:
1/2 of RJ + cash
Ian + Splitters Right's

Cavs:
The other half of RJ + cash
Mike Finley, Marcus Williams, Future 1st round pick.

z0sa
12-05-2009, 03:07 PM
Spurs receive:
Kobe Bryant
Lebron James

Lakers receive:
1/2 of RJ + cash
Ian + Splitters Right's

Cavs:
The other half of RJ + cash
Mike Finley, Marcus Williams, Future 1st round pick.

Gotta at least link the trade machine to look legit. :lol:toast

lennyalderette
12-05-2009, 03:51 PM
unfortunately no gm of the 3 teams would be so dumb as you to get this deal done, or at least Clippers GM is definitely not retarded enough to make it true. I mean for what insane fucking reason should the Clippers trade an expiring contract plus a talented youngster for two pieces of shit?

while were talking about pieces of shit, you should change your pic and sig!:toast

draft87
12-05-2009, 04:28 PM
Spurs Recieve

Al Thornton
Marcus Camby

Clippers Recieve

Bobby Simmons
Yi Jianlian

Nets Recieve

Richard Jefferson
DeAndre Jordan



ok mr sandman......