Dohnaghy Rockets Mavs 2005 Series Tainted

[Indazone]

http://www.topfive.com/weekend.jpg

On AM 790 with Matt and Adam, Donaghy says refs were given instruction to concentrate on Yao Ming and his "illegal screens".

Matt asked if there was any "smoke to the fire" regarding that series before that response.

http://www.790kbme.com/cc-common/news/sections/sportsarticle.html?feed=104670&article=6416669

[Greg Oden]

Illegal screens is an illegal basketball move that will be called by the refs if they see it. rocketfan seems mad at 116-76

[Indazone]

Refs were unfairly calling Yao on everything in that series and Dirk was getting away with murder.

[djohn2oo8]

Doesn't matter anymore.....games are tainted every year, alas Joey Crawford

[Indazone]

Here is the Matt and Adam Podcast from Dohnaghy

http://www.790kbme.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=MattAdam.xml

[Findog]

Yao was setting moving screens and the Mavs asked the League Office to start calling it. 116-76.

[Indazone]

JVG is vindicated! Does this mean Stern gives Van Gundy his $100,000 back?

[Findog]

jvg is vindicated! Does this mean stern gives van gundy his $100,000 back?

116-76

[noob cake]

Well it wasn't that bad guys; the past is history. Stern never liked us. He made TMac the scapegoat for all of his team's failures.

We all know that Stern loves his Lakers. We thing we should be complaining is that Lakers vs Kings WCF series. There is indisputable evidence that that series was tainted. With this new evidence of tainted rising, I wouldn't be surprised if Stern plainly told the refs to make the Kings lose.

[Findog]

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[Indazone]

Dohnaghy says that the book will vindicate Houston fans. He says the instructions were given to officials to target Yao Ming. Says that players and coaches know what is going on but are muzzled and do not want to be fined.

[dirk4mvp]

Stern never liked us.

You think he's going to favor a team with Mark Cuban at the head over any other team?

[Findog]

Dohnaghy says that the book will vindicate Houston fans. He says the instructions were given to officials to target Yao Ming.

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[Indazone]

Listen to the Podcast!!!

[Findog]

Listen to the Podcast!!!

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[monosylab1k]

So are you implying that the refs were cheating for Dallas by calling legitimate fouls?

[Indazone]

To Mavsfans

dddAi8FF3F4

[monosylab1k]

We all know David Stern's ultimate goal is to keep basketball small and exclusive to the United States. That's why he would want to destroy the team that has the biggest international basketball star ever.

[noob cake]

Why so defensive guise? if the refs did no wrong?

[stretch]

He says the instructions were given to officials to target Yao Ming.

For setting illegal screens. No different than if the officials were told to watch Shaq for the elbow he uses to clear space, or Tim Duncan using his hand to hold opponents down at the waist so he can block their shots, or Lebron James for traveling.

They are all illegal tendencies that each player tends to get away with, and they were just told to focus on Yao's because they were getting way out of hand.

[Indazone]

When all of this information comes out into the light of day, I just hope that Stern and the NBA clean their acts up.

[Findog]

So are you implying that the refs were cheating for Dallas by calling legitimate fouls?

Hey, it's Rocket fan. If they can somehow successfully turn their computers on, they've accomplished a lot.

[monosylab1k]

Why so defensive guise? if the refs did no wrong?

We didn't start the thread about a 5 year old series where a center got called for legitimate fouls. We're just mocking it.

[Texas Chili Dog]

LOL

it was a first round series, not the WCF. The Rockets would have been dicked in the 2nd round by the Suns just like the Mavs were.

a series like the 06 Finals can generate some real frustration. :bang

[monosylab1k]

When all of this information comes out into the light of day, I just hope that Stern and the NBA clean their acts up.

Yes, we all want a world where legitimate fouls aren't called anymore.

[Findog]

Why so defensive guise? if the refs did no wrong?

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[Double-Up]

Oh no here we go again...

[monosylab1k]

a series like the 06 Finals can generate some real frustration. :bang

don't bring that can of worms into this thread.

cue Spur Fan with whiny pussy hurt complaints about the 06 WCSF reffing. "Dirk gets away with everything and Duncan got hacked 50 times a game! :cry "

[Double-Up]

We all know illegal screens are set every game and they hardly ever call it, it's just a fact. It's a long time ago and personal I don't give a fuck anymore.

[IronMexican]

Crying about the refs is the gayest thing possible. rocketfans with the 05 series, spurs with 06 WCSF, mavfans with 06 Finals and Laker fans with game 2 08 Finals. Seriously, all that shit is gay. You're team lost. Get over it.

[Double-Up]

LOL at Greg Oden in this thread, ain't your bitch ass in the ICU? Play a full season and then MAYBE you can talk shit troll.

[mavsluva]

To blame is to "BE LAME".

[Greg Oden]

lol illegal screens.

[Indazone]

Yeah well who's going to argue that Sacremento didn't get screwed out of their championship in 2002?

Oh and by the way, from the Van Gundy Archives

Van Gundy Says Yao Is a Target for the Officials
By LIZ ROBBINS

Published: May 2, 2005


ALLAS, May 1 - Rockets Coach Jeff Van Gundy said Sunday that officials were calling fouls more readily, and unfairly, on his 7-foot-6 center, Yao Ming.

Van Gundy also suggested that complaints to the league by the Dallas owner, Mark Cuban, had been to blame, something the N.B.A. immediately denied.

"When you review his fouls, you look there and you got to give Mark Cuban credit," Van Gundy said after the Rockets had a meeting at their hotel. "He's been calling and calling about Yao. You got to give the guy credit, he's taken a lot of fines in his time, and he's been on them hard. And he's gotten the benefit."

Van Gundy said that after the Mavericks' victory Saturday in Game 4, which tied the playoff series at two games each, he received an unsolicited call from a friend who is a league official. The official, Van Gundy said, told him that referees "were looking at Yao harder because of Mark's complaints."

Van Gundy declined to identify the official, saying, "I don't want to get my man in trouble."

"I didn't think that really worked in the N.B.A., but in this case it has," he said.

Yao fouled out in Game 1 of the series and had five fouls each in Games 3 and 4.

Stu Jackson, the N.B.A's vice president, rejected Van Gundy's comments in a statement Sunday night. "No such directive was given to the officials regarding Yao Ming or any other player or team in the playoffs," Jackson said.

Van Gundy said: "I think Yao all year has had a target on his back, for whatever reason, whether it's his size, his kindness, whatever, there's many other things it could be, too."

When asked to respond, Cuban wrote in an e-mail message: "What Jeff said is an insult to officials. They don't officiate individual players differently."

He said that the Mavericks sent in a list of 28 possible moving screens from Game 1 and that the league said 9 of them should have been called but were not. "So if anything, he has it completely backwards," Cuban wrote. "We have had no impact on officiating."

[Double-Up]

lol illegal screens.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/images/photos/000/770/860/RackMultipart.7413.0_feature.jpg?1260270634

:rollin

Even though you're a ruthless troll I still hated to see Oden go down.

[Greg Oden]

Did anyone here watch this game?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/games/2005-05-07-mavericks-rockets-game7_x.htm

[Indazone]

I for one hope that the 13 refs that include Bavetta, Javie, and Crawford are throughly investigated and found guilty of fixing games. Then they can finally clean up the game of basketball.

[picc84]

If the screens were illegal, how was the series tainted?

This sounds like a fail.

[Culburn369]

I for one hope that the 13 refs that include Bavetta, Javie, and Crawford are throughly investigated and found guilty of fixing games. Then they can finally clean up the game of basketball.

It's the words of a convicted felon. Was he lying then, or, is he lying now?

[Indazone]

The fail is the 2002 game 6 fix for the Lakers against the Kings

League ordered Lakers win. Made up fouls on the Kings to let LAKER win at foul line.

Lakers 40 times to foul line

H_i3Vnd0n44

[Indazone]

It's the words of a convicted felon. Was he lying then, or, is he lying now?

Where there is smoke there is fire. The FBI will clear it all up eventually.

[Double-Up]

It's the words of a convicted felon. Was he lying then, or, is he lying now?


Good point but we all know there was a lot of damage control on Tim by Stern/FBI? to prevent it from hurting the entire league.

[picc84]

Lesson here kids? When your main point fails miserably and backfires, switch the subject. :lol

[Double-Up]

Did anyone here watch this game?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/games/2005-05-07-mavericks-rockets-game7_x.htm


You must be Tshlong's alter ego cause neither one of you can grasp reality. Wake the fuck up.

[Indazone]

Lesson here is the NBA is fixed and the officiating is horrible and I don't think anyone here will disagree with that because we have all been screwed over at one time or other. Who can forget Crawford Tim Duncan lol. What a joke.

[Culburn369]

Lesson here is the NBA is fixed and the officiating is horrible and I don't think anyone here will disagree with that because we have all been screwed over at one time or other. Who can forget Crawford Tim Duncan lol. What a joke.

True. I took it up the ass for 30 years before Strom in the '85 Finals called it straight. I've gotten mine ever since, and I ain't given any of it back.

[picc84]

When were the Rox screwed over?

[stretch]

Crying about the refs is the gayest thing possible. rocketfans with the 05 series, spurs with 06 WCSF, mavfans with 06 Finals and Laker fans with game 2 08 Finals. Seriously, all that shit is gay. You're team lost. Get over it.

the only thing gayer are lakerfans

[Findog]

When were the Rox screwed over?

When Ralph Sampson screwed up his knees.

[djohn2oo8]

When were the Rox screwed over?

It was official when Kobe elbowed Battier on the head and Stern said Kobe was "trying to get up"

[Double-Up]

When Ralph Sampson screwed up his knees.

Ralph and Hakeem could have dominated...oh well water under the bridge.

[Culburn369]

Ralph was a horrible stiff. A bum

[picc84]

Thats funny. I dont remember Kobe being on the court long enough to elbow Battier during that game 7 blowout bonanza. Saw him on the bench eating some popcorn, extra butter, but no elbow.

Still. That must be why they lost.

That, and the illegal screens in 2005. Damn those refs calling a fair game!

[Double-Up]

Ralph was a horrible stiff. A bum


Unlike Magic he isn't faking AIDS, his knees just went out or that series back in the 80's would have been a different story.

[Indazone]

Thats funny. I dont remember Kobe being on the court long enough to elbow Battier during that game 7 blowout bonanza. Saw him on the bench eating some popcorn, extra butter, but no elbow.

Still. That must be why they lost.

That, and the illegal screens in 2005. Damn those refs calling a fair game!

A Lakersfan would say this since they are the beneficiaries of David Stern's love affair with the Lakers. Gasol trade, 2002 handover of the title, every single recent title was just handed to them by David Stern.

[Culburn369]

Unlike Magic he isn't faking AIDS, his knees just went out or that series back in the 80's would have been a different story.

But, why would Magic fake AIDs?

And Sampson was a bum before the knees. He was a black Shawn Bradley.

[Culburn369]

A Lakersfan would say this since they are the beneficiaries of David Stern's love affair with the Lakers. Gasol trade, 2002 handover of the title, every single recent title was just handed to them by David Stern.

& I took them all, gladly.

[picc84]

Given up on the "Rockets got screwed by correct calls" campaign, eh? Good move. :lol

[sook]

While we might have got fucked over by the reffs vs dallas....Dallas got anally raped by the reffs vs the heat so it evens out.

[Indazone]

So the moral of this story is that David Stern Hates the Mavs. He lets them get close enough to taste it and then yanks it away. :lol

[Culburn369]

The Mavs had it too...it was in their possession and then the Heat took it right away from them. We've never been done quite that-a-way.

What a fright.

[Culburn369]

So the moral of this story is that David Stern Hates the Mavs.

No, the moral of the story is: finish it. Like Kobe rifling it to Fish and Fish finishing it over the crown of Nelson's head.

[Double-Up]

But, why would Magic fake AIDs?

And Sampson was a bum before the knees. He was a black Shawn Bradley.

Get a life hoe your game is weak...just like Kobe's game against the Celtics circa you know when. :lol

I bet your mama was a beast, she must have been one of them cheerleading hoes giving monkey out at the end of games...thus we have Cuntburn.

[Culburn369]

It'll never end.

[Indazone]

This is turning into one of the best trash talking threads ever :lol

[sabar]

People are still worshiping this convicted felon with no job and millions to gain from a book (you know, since he has no job and probably never will).

Oh and he has ties to the mob :rollin

Any random NBA fan has more credibility than this tragic hero. Even Culburn.

[djohn2oo8]

People are still worshiping this convicted felon with no job and millions to gain from a book (you know, since he has no job and probably never will).

Oh and he has ties to the mob :rollin

Any random NBA fan has more credibility than this tragic hero. Even Culburn.

So you think the NBA is pure?

[Culburn369]

Any random NBA fan has more credibility than this tragic hero. Even Culburn.

Even with all my molestins???

[Cane]

Donaghy ftw. He's just asking to be murdered by Stern and the mafia now :)

[The Third Man]

Illegal screens is an illegal basketball move that will be called by the refs if they see it. rocketfan seems mad at 116-76

How's that knee doing?

[Indazone]

fRPYjdgStns

[Shank]

Wait, wait, wait...

Magic is faking the AIDS all this time?

[monosylab1k]

Wait, wait, wait...

Magic is faking the AIDS all this time?

No no no that idiot got it all wrong.

Magic has the hiv, but he got it because he's a still-in-the-closet homosexual, and that's a scientific fact.

[BadOdor]

There really is nothing more pathetic than rox fan.

At least when Mavs/spurs/lakers complain about rigged officiating, it usually has to do with basically being denied a championship.

Rox fan are whining about being denied the second round, lawl.

[picc84]

God I love this forum. :lol

[Double-Up]

There really is nothing more pathetic than rox fan.

At least when Mavs/spurs/lakers complain about rigged officiating, it usually has to do with basically being denied a championship.

Rox fan are whining about being denied the second round, lawl.

"I refuse to act with common decency (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75702)"

[Double-Up]

No no no that idiot got it all wrong.

Magic has the hiv, but he got it because he's a still-in-the-closet homosexual, and that's a scientific fact.

Wow good to know, I guess...:lol

[Culburn369]

Sure ain't as boring as Yao splittin' his foot just afore he was about to shove it up Laker ass, eh?

tee, hee.

[DPG21920]

No surprise seeing Cully flock to any kind of thread with the word taint in it.

[Culburn369]

No surprise seeing Cully flock to any kind of thread with the word taint in it.

Just checkin' assholes.