Spurs need to keep Mason - What's it gona take?

[NFGIII]

This guy could be our starting 2 (was last year) as well as the current roll he plays. Come this off season he will be on many hit lists and he will be a unrestricted FA. So what is it going to take to keep him? As a Spur for two years he knows the system and is clutch. I believe the Spurs will be looking to extend Manu's contract or give him a new one. The way he is starting to come on that contract won't be cheap.


So what are the Spurs willing to offer him? And considering this economy and what Holt has shelled out for RJ and others what is he worth? I expect for him to get a hefty pay raise over what he is making this year - 3.8M. Say at least a 3 - 4 year deal worth 6.5 - 8 M a year if not more. I expect many teams to be bidding on his services and it should be interesting to see how this plays out.

So what do you guys think he is worth?

[TDMVPDPOY]

lock this now

mason aint worth MLE

[Danny.Zhu]

I say we wait a few more games and trade him when he is worth the most.

[DesignatedT]

spurs need to keep mase. no doubt

[ss1986v2]

nothing more than the MLE, and even thats probably too much. mason is a 3pt specialist and not much else, and those players dont typically make any more than that. look at these guys:

james jones got ~4.6 mil per.
kapono got ~6 mil per.
vujavich got ~5 mil per.
buike got ~3.2 mil.
anthony parker got ~2.8 mil.

even if there were some team out there willing to spend actual cap space (above the MLE) on a 3pt specialist, why not throw your money at a kid like anthony morrow and hope its too pricey for the warriors to match? something in the 3-5 mil per range on 2-3 years wouldnt be too horrible. anything more than that, and you are overspending.

[Big P]

$6-8 mil a year??:wow

Sorry, the Spurs are not going to give him anything more than the LLE. Splitter is going to take most if not all of the MLE.

[spurspokesman]

lock this now

mason aint worth MLE

He's worth what he's getting now and he is worth every dime. I like big rog but if were hunting down a trade u can rest assured he'll be included in the deal.

[NFGIII]

lock this now

mason aint worth MLE


I agree that we need to lock him up now but if not then you don't think he is worth the MLE which would be about 5.85M more or less come next season? Considering some of the GM and owners out there I think Mase will get at least that if not more. If we don't spend somewhere near the MLE then he most likely will be gone unless he wants to stay and play here. He might if he thinks the Spurs can win it all but it still is a business and you have to take care of yourself.

[OrEmuN]

I think we are probably unable to keep him. If the MLE is used for Tiago, there is little much we can offer to Mason since we do not have his Larry Bird rights (if i am not wrong).

[DesignatedT]

$6-8 mil a year??:wow

Sorry, the Spurs are not going to give him anything more than the LLE. Splitter is going to take most if not all of the MLE.

lle? lmao. he is worth a bit more than that... and im not sure the exact rules are but if we some how have bird rights on him, then we can put him in a contract that wont go against the MLE. not sure though.


Mason has gotten exceptionally better with his ball handling and passing skills. he has improved on both sides of the floor. no way we just let him walk, but def need to be careful how much we offer

[murpjf88]

Somebodies gotta go or their won't be a trade. Mason is probably one of the best tradeable assets we have. Don't think your going to get anything in return for bonner and finley straight up.

[ss1986v2]

I think we are probably unable to keep him. If the MLE is used for Tiago, there is little much we can offer to Mason since we do not have his Larry Bird rights (if i am not wrong).

yes and no. we wont have full bird rights on mason, but we will have early bird rights, which means we can offer him a deal up to the average player salary (which is the same as the MLE) without having the cap space or touching the actual MLE.

[DesignatedT]

yes and no. we wont have full bird rights on mason, but we will have early bird rights, which means we can offer him a deal up to the average player salary (which is the same as the MLE) without having the cap space or touching the actual MLE.

In that case... i def think we should offer him up to the MLE. whether he takes it is a different story

[DesignatedT]

Somebodies gotta go or their won't be a trade. Mason is probably one of the best tradeable assets we have. Don't think your going to get anything in return for bonner and finley straight up.

trade?


why do we want a trade

[murpjf88]

trade?


why do we want a trade

I hope your being facetious.

[NFGIII]

lle? lmao. he is worth a bit more than that... and im not sure the exact rules are but if we some how have bird rights on him, then we can put him in a contract that wont go against the MLE. not sure though.


Mason has gotten exceptionally better with his ball handling and passing skills. he has improved on both sides of the floor. no way we just let him walk, but def need to be careful how much we offer

He has really improved those skills over what he did last year. But as I originally implied - at what price? With the prospect of Splitter coming over next year what is left in the bank for him. If the Spurs FO think they can't keep him then how can they bundle him in a trade. I would hate to see him walk and get nothing out of it. That would really suck.

[Zero_Twilight]

The fact that RMJ enjoys being on this team and enjoys being in San Antonio is insurance enough that a reasonable deal WILL be made.

Especially if Finley doesn't return, I consider it done.

[crc21209]

Mason is our version of "Instant Offense" or "The Microwave" off the bench because seriously when this guy is on he can hit shots like craaaazy...:tu

[NFGIII]

yes and no. we wont have full bird rights on mason, but we will have early bird rights, which means we can offer him a deal up to the average player salary (which is the same as the MLE) without having the cap space or touching the actual MLE.

I think this would be ideal for the Spurs. Retaining Mase and not touching the MLE.

[Mel_13]

yes and no. we wont have full bird rights on mason, but we will have early bird rights, which means we can offer him a deal up to the average player salary (which is the same as the MLE) without having the cap space or touching the actual MLE.

They can actually offer a little more. Teams can sign Early Bird FAs for any amount up to the average player salary or 175% of his previous salary, whichever is greater. For Mason, 175% of his current salary would be 6.6M, which will almost certainly be greater than the average player salary. So the Spurs could offer him a contract starting at 6.6M with 10.5% annual raises. Another team without cap space could only offer the MLE with 8% raises.

I don't see Mason getting that kind of offer from the Spurs. If another team offers him something approaching the full MLE, I believe the Spurs will let him go.

[ss1986v2]

They can actually offer a little more. Teams can sign Early Bird FAs for any amount up to the average player salary or 175% of his previous salary, whichever is greater. For Mason, 175% of his current salary would be 6.6M, which will almost certainly be greater than the average player salary. So the Spurs could offer him a contract starting at 6.6M with 10.5% annual raises. Another team without cap space could only offer the MLE with 8% raises.

correct. just didnt think it needed to be stated because i doubt we even offer him a full MLE contract in the first place.

[ffadicted]

MLE money for sure. Anything else his agent is asking too much, specially on our payroll

[TDMVPDPOY]

you guys actually think his worth MLE? hahahahahahahahahhaa

[Mel_13]

It's December 29th and SpursTalk wants to know what it will take to keep Mason. A much different question was raised just last month:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3850950#post3850950

[androck]

He doesn't rebound, he can't play point, and his defense is below-average for the team. Here are Spurs better than him:

Tim
Tony
Manu
RJ
Hill
McDyess
Bonner
and maybe Blair

You think the 7th or 8th best player is worth the MLE? He's made some clutch shots and has been playing well lately but we've had Finley/Barry/Kerr/etc. filling this same role since the 90s. He's not irreplaceable. I like Mason and appreciate how well he's been doing now that he's getting minutes but if RC gives him the MLE I'll flip out. JR Smith's 3-year contract was $16.5 million to put things in perspective.

[murpjf88]

He doesn't rebound, he can't play point, and his defense is below-average for the team. Here are Spurs better than him:

Tim
Tony
Manu
RJ
Hill
McDyess
Bonner
and maybe Blair

You think the 7th or 8th best player is worth the MLE? He's made some clutch shots and has been playing well lately but we've had Finley/Barry/Kerr/etc. filling this same role since the 90s. He's not irreplaceable. I like Mason and appreciate how well he's been doing now that he's getting minutes but if RC gives him the MLE I'll flip out. JR Smith's 3-year contract was $16.5 million to put things in perspective.

I can't agree with you entirely. He's not suppose to be rebounding. You can't rebound when your on the perimeter. His defense isn't great, but I can't say its worse than bonner or RJ. Roger isn't suppose to be better than Tim, Manu, Tony, or Rj, and I think he probably is better than bonner.

However, I would definitely explore the marketplace before spending the MLE on Mason. I'm sure their are better alternatives.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I can't agree with you entirely. He's not suppose to be rebounding. You can't rebound when your on the perimeter. His defense isn't great, but I can't say its worse than bonner or RJ. Roger isn't suppose to be better than Tim, Manu, Tony, or Rj, and I think he probably is better than bonner.

However, I would definitely explore the marketplace before spending the MLE on Mason. I'm sure their are better alternatives.

His defense is worse than Bonner's and RJ's and he is not by any means a better player than Bonner. Consider Bonner's contract, that's what Mason will be looking for. I doubt any other team throws the MLE at him but who knows, the Grizz are always there to make a stupid move.

[JustinJDW]

Give him Finley's money next year.

[Kori Ellis]

I would hope they don't waste MLE-level money on Roger Mason. If he gets any offer from the Spurs, it will probably be less than he makes now.

[murpjf88]

His defense is worse than Bonner's and RJ's and he is not by any means a better player than Bonner. Consider Bonner's contract, that's what Mason will be looking for. I doubt any other team throws the MLE at him but who knows, the Grizz are always there to make a stupid move.

Restate that! Bonner is by know means a better player than mason!!! Bonner does one thing well, shoot three pointers. Roger is more versatile. He can take is man off the dribble and drive. He can hit the three-ball, he can create his own shot and he can be an emergency pg (not that he belongs their by any means). Matt Bonner is a black hole. He is useless if he's not shooting three's.

[spursfan1000]

I don't see Roger Mason leaving San Antonio because he has found a home here and is getting enough minutes for him to contribute. In my opinion not too many teams will try and over pay for him because like others said he is just a jump shooter, maybe a great jump shooter but just a jump shooter.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He is useless if he's not shooting three's.

I can't believe anyone would be stating this to begrudge Bonner and defend Mason.Truly unbelievable.

[murpjf88]

I can't believe anyone would be stating this to begrudge Bonner and defend Mason.Truly unbelievable.

I'm not begrudging anyone. I'm stating facts. Bonner terrible at everything but three's. Mason's more versitile. However, I wouldn't give either of them the full MLE.

[androck]

I can't agree with you entirely. He's not suppose to be rebounding. You can't rebound when your on the perimeter. His defense isn't great, but I can't say its worse than bonner or RJ. Roger isn't suppose to be better than Tim, Manu, Tony, or Rj, and I think he probably is better than bonner.

However, I would definitely explore the marketplace before spending the MLE on Mason. I'm sure their are better alternatives.

Of course you can rebound on the perimeter. Jason Kidd has made a Hall of Fame career out of it. For comparison's sake, let's look at other Spurs players' per 36 minute career rebounding rate.

George Hill - 4.0
Manu Ginobili - 5.2
Richard Jefferson - 5.3
Tony Parker - 3.4
Roger Mason - 3.3

This is why I consider Mason a poor rebounder.

As a defender, I consider Mason to be the poorest on the team. I base this on his adjusted plus/minus defensive rating which you can see for yourself at basketballvalue.com. I've made the argument many times on this site that Bonner is an average NBA defender for his position but because he's an unathletic white guy, he's constantly underrated. RJ is actually a much-improved defender this year but we'll have to wait and see if it holds up in the long run.

Finally, I don't see any way you can consider Mason a better player than Bonner. I've already mentioned the defense. On top of that, per 36 minutes Bonner is averaging more points, rebounds, and less turnovers this year. Bonner is shooting .451 from 3 compared to Mason's .349 (below his career average but he's never been as accurate as Bonner) and factor in the value Bonner brings to the rest of the offense by drawing an opposing big out to the perimeter to open up the paint for Tim and Tony and there is really no comparison. Mason is making almost $3.8M this year and Bonner only $3.2M and I'd be surprised to see Mason on the Spurs next year if he expects any sort of pay raise.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I'm not begrudging anyone. I'm stating facts. Bonner terrible at everything but three's. Mason's more versitile. However, I wouldn't give either of them the full MLE.

Both are useless if they're not hitting the 3.Both are pretty one-dimensional role players, both are on similar contracts and on about as much as they deserve and would ever get.

Anyway, this thread is not about comparing Bonner to Mason but about how much would it cost to keep Mason. My guess is the Spurs wouldn't top 10mil over 3 years if they make him an offer at all in the summer and I also don't expect any team to throw more money his way unless he plays really well in the playoffs.

[Chieflion]

I am not defending Matt Bonner here but he has improved his game tremendously. He is able to set a good screen that leads to the 16-18 foot jumper, and he nails them well. His 3 point shot is also respected enough that his shot fakes work most of the time and can dribble a bit, granted it looks sloppy. He also now has that sweet high arching hook which works sometimes. There is no use bashing Bonner cause he is not the same Bonner as last season.

[murpjf88]

Both are useless if they're not hitting the 3.Both are pretty one-dimensional role players, both are on similar contracts and on about as much as they deserve and would ever get.

Anyway, this thread is not about comparing Bonner to Mason but about how much would it cost to keep Mason. My guess is the Spurs wouldn't top 10mil over 3 years if they make him an offer at all in the summer and I also don't expect any team to throw more money his way unless he plays really well in the playoffs.

I agree. I don't think it will come to that. I expect him gone in February. I think the better he does from now until then will only increase his trade value. The spurs have very few tradeable assets at this point that will interest teams. I don't think Pop will get rid of Bonner at this point.

[lennyalderette]

Of course you can rebound on the perimeter. Jason Kidd has made a Hall of Fame career out of it. For comparison's sake, let's look at other Spurs players' per 36 minute career rebounding rate.

George Hill - 4.0
Manu Ginobili - 5.2
Richard Jefferson - 5.3
Tony Parker - 3.4
Roger Mason - 3.3

This is why I consider Mason a poor rebounder.

As a defender, I consider Mason to be the poorest on the team. I base this on his adjusted plus/minus defensive rating which you can see for yourself at basketballvalue.com. I've made the argument many times on this site that Bonner is an average NBA defender for his position but because he's an unathletic white guy, he's constantly underrated. RJ is actually a much-improved defender this year but we'll have to wait and see if it holds up in the long run.

Finally, I don't see any way you can consider Mason a better player than Bonner. I've already mentioned the defense. On top of that, per 36 minutes Bonner is averaging more points, rebounds, and less turnovers this year. Bonner is shooting .451 from 3 compared to Mason's .349 (below his career average but he's never been as accurate as Bonner) and factor in the value Bonner brings to the rest of the offense by drawing an opposing big out to the perimeter to open up the paint for Tim and Tony and there is really no comparison. Mason is making almost $3.8M this year and Bonner only $3.2M and I'd be surprised to see Mason on the Spurs next year if he expects any sort of pay raise.


your going to tell me finleys a better defender? oh man this is crazy finley just broke his ankle trying to slow down when he was running too fast, he guards no one and only wants to shoot

[murpjf88]

Of course you can rebound on the perimeter. Jason Kidd has made a Hall of Fame career out of it. For comparison's sake, let's look at other Spurs players' per 36 minute career rebounding rate.

George Hill - 4.0
Manu Ginobili - 5.2
Richard Jefferson - 5.3
Tony Parker - 3.4
Roger Mason - 3.3

This is why I consider Mason a poor rebounder.

As a defender, I consider Mason to be the poorest on the team. I base this on his adjusted plus/minus defensive rating which you can see for yourself at basketballvalue.com. I've made the argument many times on this site that Bonner is an average NBA defender for his position but because he's an unathletic white guy, he's constantly underrated. RJ is actually a much-improved defender this year but we'll have to wait and see if it holds up in the long run.

Finally, I don't see any way you can consider Mason a better player than Bonner. I've already mentioned the defense. On top of that, per 36 minutes Bonner is averaging more points, rebounds, and less turnovers this year. Bonner is shooting .451 from 3 compared to Mason's .349 (below his career average but he's never been as accurate as Bonner) and factor in the value Bonner brings to the rest of the offense by drawing an opposing big out to the perimeter to open up the paint for Tim and Tony and there is really no comparison. Mason is making almost $3.8M this year and Bonner only $3.2M and I'd be surprised to see Mason on the Spurs next year if he expects any sort of pay raise.


I thought I said it wasn't his JOB to rebound. Of course he can rebound. Secondly, your comparing apples with oranges. You put Bonner on the perimeter guarding shooters and he will be lit up like a white christmas tree. They play two separate positions. As far as his three point shooting goes, he's a better shooter, but lousier in the clutch. But, I don't expect it to be an issue because he will probably be traded.

[Kori Ellis]

your going to tell me finleys a better defender? oh man this is crazy finley just broke his ankle trying to slow down when he was running too fast, he guards no one and only wants to shoot

Finley was definitely a better defender than Mason in the series against the Mavs last playoffs.

I'm not sure why so many Spurs fans erase from their minds how atrocious Mason was in the post season. I guess it's because everyone else on the team played poorly as well. Mason didn't even try to play D, he was immobile.

[lennyalderette]

like some of the guys mentioned above ^ once next year rolls around finley better be gone, and we can use that money for mase! that will take care of everything. i like mason because he at least shows passion and heart out there, even though hes not a great defender he hustles to his man better than parker and finley. im not just talking crap here if you want to talk about suck ass D lets talk parker and finley because thats crap too

[TDMVPDPOY]

like some of the guys mentioned above ^ once next year rolls around finley better be gone, and we can use that money for mase! that will take care of everything. i like mason because he at least shows passion and heart out there, even though hes not a great defender he hustles to his man better than parker and finley. im not just talking crap here if you want to talk about suck ass D lets talk parker and finley because thats crap too

to keep the payroll next season to be like this, either finley moves and mason get his money, ginoboli earning less then what his on currently....

bonner is gone anyway....who else is expiring?

[HarlemHeat37]

Way too early to talk about this..

Mason looks improved over last year..his D is better and his passing is significantly better..like Kori said though, he looked really bad in the playoffs, so that's how he'll be judged again this season..

[androck]

your going to tell me finleys a better defender? oh man this is crazy finley just broke his ankle trying to slow down when he was running too fast, he guards no one and only wants to shoot

I consider Finley to be a slightly better defender than Mason. I consider the defensive abilities to be ranked as follows:

1. Sack of potatoes
2. Mike Finley
3. Roger Mason
4. Brick mailbox

[HarlemHeat37]

I think Bonner is better than Mason as well, but I don't like how you're using his adjusted defensive ratings against him for this year, but ignoring that he had a better rating than some of our main guys last year, including significantly better than Finley..

[TDMVPDPOY]

all of a sudden matt bonner is a fan favourite, ship his ass if the right deal comes along

[benefactor]

Way too early to talk about this..

Mason looks improved over last year..his D is better and his passing is significantly better..like Kori said though, he looked really bad in the playoffs, so that's how he'll be judged again this season..
Agreed. He seems to have broken out of his slump but the playoffs are where he will be made or broke. Hopefully he continues to play at a high level as we really need his shooting off the bench.

They can actually offer a little more. Teams can sign Early Bird FAs for any amount up to the average player salary or 175% of his previous salary, whichever is greater. For Mason, 175% of his current salary would be 6.6M, which will almost certainly be greater than the average player salary. So the Spurs could offer him a contract starting at 6.6M with 10.5% annual raises. Another team without cap space could only offer the MLE with 8% raises.

I don't see Mason getting that kind of offer from the Spurs. If another team offers him something approaching the full MLE, I believe the Spurs will let him go.
If Mason does perform well in the playoffs, I think this still applies. He has already stated that one of the reasons he signed the contract he did is so that he can get in on the 2010 free agency rush. I pretty sure that some team that loses out will overpay him and he will be gone...as the Spurs are not going to offer him much more than he is making now.

[SpurNation]

That would be typical nba role player scenario. Perform well. Help win championship. Get overpaid for the rest of their career.

Happens all the time. I just hope he can help the team win another championship. What happens after that...Meh.

[silverblackfan]

Last year and the first 3 weeks of the season I would agree that Mason does not have defensive chops, but the last month has been different. He is moving his feet now and not causing silly fouls. I think his defense has really improved and he is getting better.
Add in the fact that his ball handling skills and # of assists improvement, and you have a very solid clutch player. He should remain a Spur.
If Mason wants to stay and the Spurs make a reasonable offer, there is a good chance he stays. This guy is truly a money manager and runs his own businesses. Construction, if I remember correctly. So hopefully, max dollars is not his prime motivator, but who knows?

[mountainballer]

Mason and MLE? Mason 6-8 million?? jesus, Isiah Thomas would be shocked about such ideas.
Mason is overpayed at the 3.8 he get's right now. (Spurs overpayed to outbid Miami in 2008 to get him).
and this doesn't mean that I don't want Masons (or a player like him) on the roster. but I also want at least 3 wings, who are significantly better than him, best case 4.
to burn 4 or 5 million for his one trick means you can't use this money for a player, who has two or three tricks. IMO Mason is a LLE player at best. if Spurs need to outbid a LLE type offer to keep him (let's say up to 5 million for 2 years) it's ok. if he get's more than that elsewhere, let him go.

[peter_slb]

I would give him another team before February. I don't like guys that play as he did in the last playoffs and if we add Bonner and Finley we might get a good defender that bring us back to the title fight.

[Spurs Brazil]

Mason Jr defense in last year playoffs was one of the worst things I ever seen. And he started this season the same way.
But after his terrible start on D he got better and now he's doing a fine job. I hope he can keep his D in a decent level so he can help us

[Dice]

I think he'll ask the organization what his role is going to be in the future. If they tell him they see him as a role player and will continue to use him as he's being used he'll walk.

I think he's a better player that what we're seeing. He doesn't get a lot of minutes and the spurs don't run plays for him even when he has the hot hand. He's a pure shooter and a lot of teams out there will be interested in him. He reminds me of an early career Joe Johnson. Given the opportunity he might becoming a real player in this league.

Of course everything changes if the Spurs win the title.

[bobbybob0]

He reminds me of an early career Joe Johnson. Given the opportunity he might becoming a real player in this league.

The thing is he's already 29 years old, you cant' expect much improvement at this age. He'll put better numbers if he gets a bigger playing time but that's about it.

[DesignatedT]

3 years/15 mil seems reasonable for me to keep mase... ofcourse, if it doesnt go against our MLE.

Mason is our best shooter from 3 and from mid range, his improvements on everything else this season should be promise enough to show he will keep getting better.

[vander]

trade him now! I don't trust him at all, he'd be more at home shooting 25 shots a game for a bad team, he doesn't seem to be very good role player for a good team, role players need to be able to play D and shoot without having to get into a rhythm, Mason has neither of these qualities.

I'm not a fan of Bogans either but I'd take Bogans over Mason any day of the week.

but we need to go out and find a Legit 2 this off season, or even right now, I'd trade TP and/or Manu and/or Mase... we need a star on this team who can bring it EVERY NIGHT!! no one on this team is able to show up for every game except for TD, it's pathetic.
what happened to TP? he's an average PG now, he can't do shit against good defenses, and neither can Manu or anyone but TD. TD is a shell of his former greatness and yet he's now the only reliable player on this team, he's carrying the Spurs when he was supposed to finally have real talent around him :bang

the only players on this team that are untouchable IMO are Hill, TD, and Blair, and Bonner the rest of the team has been garbage so far, I'll cut a little slack for RJ being that he's new, but I can't believe the regression I've seen from TP, and I can't believe the FO still thinks we can count on Manu against good teams, he should have been traded by now.

[TJastal]

trade him now! I don't trust him at all, he'd be more at home shooting 25 shots a game for a bad team, he doesn't seem to be very good role player for a good team, role players need to be able to play D and shoot without having to get into a rhythm, Mason has neither of these qualities.

I'm not a fan of Bogans either but I'd take Bogans over Mason any day of the week.

but we need to go out and find a Legit 2 this off season, or even right now, I'd trade TP and/or Manu and/or Mase... we need a star on this team who can bring it EVERY NIGHT!! no one on this team is able to show up for every game except for TD, it's pathetic.
what happened to TP? he's an average PG now, he can't do shit against good defenses, and neither can Manu or anyone but TD. TD is a shell of his former greatness and yet he's now the only reliable player on this team, he's carrying the Spurs when he was supposed to finally have real talent around him :bang

the only players on this team that are untouchable IMO are Hill, TD, and Blair, and Bonner the rest of the team has been garbage so far, I'll cut a little slack for RJ being that he's new, but I can't believe the regression I've seen from TP, and I can't believe the FO still thinks we can count on Manu against good teams, he should have been traded by now.

Your takes are weak. Roger's defense and all around game have been improving, and its not gone unnoticed. He's more than earned my trust on last year's late game heroics alone and as far as I can tell he's about as plug n play as you can get as a shooter, no warm up shots needed with Roger.

[lurker23]

I would hope they don't waste MLE-level money on Roger Mason. If he gets any offer from the Spurs, it will probably be less than he makes now.


if Spurs need to outbid a LLE type offer to keep him (let's say up to 5 million for 2 years) it's ok. if he get's more than that elsewhere, let him go.

This. I expect the Spurs to offer him something like 2 years, $4-6 million. Then I fully expect them to be outbid by another team that overpays and signs Mason for 3 years, $10-15 million.

[NFGIII]

Roger's defense and all around game have been improving, and its not gone unnoticed. He's more than earned my trust on last year's late game heroics alone and as far as I can tell he's about as plug n play as you can get as a shooter, no warm up shots needed with Roger.

Agreed. I do believe that he has been noticed by other teams as a potential FA this off season. That is why I started the thread and thought he would command a pay raise next year. Maybe not as big as I originally thought due to some of the reasoning from more astute members on this board but someone who will be sought after. But all of this will hinge on his performance come playoff time. If he fades like last year then that pay raise is moot from the Spurs point of view. He could turn into another Hedo and get that significant offer, which the Spurs will not try to match or negotiate, and leave only to fade for that particular team until he finally gets it together.

I hope we are seeing the new and improved Mase for the rest of the season and into the POs.

[angelbelow]

3-4 million a year for 3 years.

[vander]

Your takes are weak. Roger's defense and all around game have been improving, and its not gone unnoticed. He's more than earned my trust on last year's late game heroics alone and as far as I can tell he's about as plug n play as you can get as a shooter, no warm up shots needed with Roger.

if by weak you mean prophetic and insightful, sit back and watch my words become reality game after game :lol :king

[Spursfan 87]

The MLE is for Splitter

Mason is out, remember this team has already tried to trade him twice. You can get good shooters for the minimum.