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mason aint worth MLE
This guy could be our starting 2 (was last year) as well as the current roll he plays. Come this off season he will be on many hit lists and he will be a unrestricted FA. So what is it going to take to keep him? As a Spur for two years he knows the system and is clutch. I believe the Spurs will be looking to extend Manu's contract or give him a new one. The way he is starting to come on that contract won't be cheap.
So what are the Spurs willing to offer him? And considering this economy and what Holt has s ed out for RJ and others what is he worth? I expect for him to get a hefty pay raise over what he is making this year - 3.8M. Say at least a 3 - 4 year deal worth 6.5 - 8 M a year if not more. I expect many teams to be bidding on his services and it should be interesting to see how this plays out.
So what do you guys think he is worth?
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mason aint worth MLE
I say we wait a few more games and trade him when he is worth the most.
spurs need to keep mase. no doubt
nothing more than the MLE, and even thats probably too much. mason is a 3pt specialist and not much else, and those players dont typically make any more than that. look at these guys:
james jones got ~4.6 mil per.
kapono got ~6 mil per.
vujavich got ~5 mil per.
buike got ~3.2 mil.
anthony parker got ~2.8 mil.
even if there were some team out there willing to spend actual cap space (above the MLE) on a 3pt specialist, why not throw your money at a kid like anthony morrow and hope its too pricey for the warriors to match? something in the 3-5 mil per range on 2-3 years wouldnt be too horrible. anything more than that, and you are overspending.
$6-8 mil a year??
Sorry, the Spurs are not going to give him anything more than the LLE. Splitter is going to take most if not all of the MLE.
He's worth what he's getting now and he is worth every dime. I like big rog but if were hunting down a trade u can rest assured he'll be included in the deal.
I agree that we need to lock him up now but if not then you don't think he is worth the MLE which would be about 5.85M more or less come next season? Considering some of the GM and owners out there I think Mase will get at least that if not more. If we don't spend somewhere near the MLE then he most likely will be gone unless he wants to stay and play here. He might if he thinks the Spurs can win it all but it still is a business and you have to take care of yourself.
I think we are probably unable to keep him. If the MLE is used for Tiago, there is little much we can offer to Mason since we do not have his Larry Bird rights (if i am not wrong).
lle? lmao. he is worth a bit more than that... and im not sure the exact rules are but if we some how have bird rights on him, then we can put him in a contract that wont go against the MLE. not sure though.$6-8 mil a year??
Sorry, the Spurs are not going to give him anything more than the LLE. Splitter is going to take most if not all of the MLE.
Mason has gotten exceptionally better with his ball handling and passing skills. he has improved on both sides of the floor. no way we just let him walk, but def need to be careful how much we offer
Somebodies gotta go or their won't be a trade. Mason is probably one of the best tradeable assets we have. Don't think your going to get anything in return for bonner and finley straight up.
yes and no. we wont have full bird rights on mason, but we will have early bird rights, which means we can offer him a deal up to the average player salary (which is the same as the MLE) without having the cap space or touching the actual MLE.
In that case... i def think we should offer him up to the MLE. whether he takes it is a different story
trade?
why do we want a trade
I hope your being facetious.
He has really improved those skills over what he did last year. But as I originally implied - at what price? With the prospect of Splitter coming over next year what is left in the bank for him. If the Spurs FO think they can't keep him then how can they bundle him in a trade. I would hate to see him walk and get nothing out of it. That would really suck.
The fact that RMJ enjoys being on this team and enjoys being in San Antonio is insurance enough that a reasonable deal WILL be made.
Especially if Finley doesn't return, I consider it done.
Mason is our version of "Instant Offense" or "The Microwave" off the bench because seriously when this guy is on he can hit shots like craaaazy...
I think this would be ideal for the Spurs. Retaining Mase and not touching the MLE.
They can actually offer a little more. Teams can sign Early Bird FAs for any amount up to the average player salary or 175% of his previous salary, whichever is greater. For Mason, 175% of his current salary would be 6.6M, which will almost certainly be greater than the average player salary. So the Spurs could offer him a contract starting at 6.6M with 10.5% annual raises. Another team without cap space could only offer the MLE with 8% raises.
I don't see Mason getting that kind of offer from the Spurs. If another team offers him something approaching the full MLE, I believe the Spurs will let him go.
correct. just didnt think it needed to be stated because i doubt we even offer him a full MLE contract in the first place.
MLE money for sure. Anything else his agent is asking too much, specially on our payroll
you guys actually think his worth MLE? hahahahahahahahahhaa
It's December 29th and SpursTalk wants to know what it will take to keep Mason. A much different question was raised just last month:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...50#post3850950
He doesn't rebound, he can't play point, and his defense is below-average for the team. Here are Spurs better than him:
Tim
Tony
Manu
RJ
Hill
McDyess
Bonner
and maybe Blair
You think the 7th or 8th best player is worth the MLE? He's made some clutch shots and has been playing well lately but we've had Finley/Barry/Kerr/etc. filling this same role since the 90s. He's not irreplaceable. I like Mason and appreciate how well he's been doing now that he's getting minutes but if RC gives him the MLE I'll flip out. JR Smith's 3-year contract was $16.5 million to put things in perspective.
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