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Yonivore
01-09-2010, 02:30 PM
...for a conservative politician.

Reid apologies for 'no Negro dialect' comment (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid)

clambake
01-09-2010, 02:38 PM
there are no conservative politicians.

Yonivore
01-09-2010, 02:38 PM
Fine...non-Democrat politician.

Yonivore
01-09-2010, 04:48 PM
:lmao

The same book that resulted in Reid's apology has another nugget about former President Bill Clinton:

Teddy's anger (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0110/Teddys_anger.html)


[A]s Hillary bungled Caroline, Bill’s handling of Ted was even worse. The day after Iowa, he phoned Kennedy and pressed for an endorsement, making the case for his wife. But Bill then went on, belittling Obama in a manner that deeply offended Kennedy. Recounting the conversation later to a friend, Teddy fumed that Clinton had said, A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.
I wonder if we'll get a response from Clinton's Harlem office...

George Gervin's Afro
01-09-2010, 05:21 PM
:lmao

The same book that resulted in Reid's apology has another nugget about former President Bill Clinton:

Teddy's anger (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0110/Teddys_anger.html)


I wonder if we'll get a response from Clinton's Harlem office...

I blame it on ACORN

jack sommerset
01-09-2010, 05:27 PM
There is no racism like racism from the left.

Yonivore
01-09-2010, 05:30 PM
There is no racism like racism from the left.
Democrats aren't racists, they're just a compassionate bunch that believes blacks wouldn't be able to compete if it weren't for Democrats.

It is, after all, the party of Robert "Sheets" Byrd.

jack sommerset
01-09-2010, 05:33 PM
Democrats aren't racists, they're just a compassionate bunch that believes blacks wouldn't be able to compete if it weren't for Democrats.

It is, after all, the party of Robert "Sheets" Byrd.

Oh, I thought they just wanted to own a couple of them.

ChumpDumper
01-09-2010, 05:34 PM
There's nothing inherently racist about saying a guy would be getting one coffee in the context of a political campaign. I guess you can try to project your racism onto Clinton if you want.

Yonivore
01-09-2010, 05:39 PM
In his apology, Reid said, "I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words."

Which leads one to wonder, what would have been a better choice of words to say Barack Obama can get elected because he's a black man that doesn't look or sound black?

George Gervin's Afro
01-09-2010, 05:43 PM
In his apology, Reid said, "I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words."

Which leads one to wonder, what would have been a better choice of words to say Barack Obama can get elected because he's a black man that doesn't look or sound black?

or maybe he just used a poor choice of words..

ChumpDumper
01-09-2010, 06:08 PM
In his apology, Reid said, "I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words."

Which leads one to wonder, what would have been a better choice of words to say Barack Obama can get elected because he's a black man that doesn't look or sound black?Sure. Just say he's telegenic and articulate or well-spoken.

balli
01-09-2010, 06:28 PM
He's a mormon. You'd expect different?

Yonivore
01-09-2010, 06:33 PM
or maybe he just used a poor choice of words..
A poor choice of words to express what?

jack sommerset
01-09-2010, 06:34 PM
"light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one." :lol

George Gervin's Afro
01-09-2010, 07:02 PM
Palin 'doesn't know anything'
According to the book, aides to Republican nominee John McCain described the difficulties they faced with their vice presidential pick, then-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser to McCain, is quoted telling Palin's foreign policy tutors: "You guys have a lot of work to do. She doesn't know anything."

While flying home to Alaska to see her son off to war, she told her team: "I wish I'd paid more attention to this stuff."

At another point, she is quoted as saying she would not have accepted the vice presidential nomination if she had understood the burden.

from the same book....:lmao

so this MUST be true also..:lmao

but,but,but spursandcowboys and jackie would vote for her..

balli
01-09-2010, 07:09 PM
^ From that same story- her moronic ass couldn't even remember Biden's last name. After repeatedly correcting her to no avail, her handlers just had to give up and have her call him Joe (since ostensibly, three letters was all she could handle). Hence the whole 'can I call you Joe' thing. And she STILL accidentally referred to him as O'Biden afterwards.

So yeah, Palin supporters, STFU about what any other politician, anywhere, says wrong. You supported the single dumbest candidate in the history of American politics. You get to say nothing about anyone else.

panic giraffe
01-09-2010, 07:49 PM
back to the topic at hand...

it should be, or at least a wake-up call, for any politician to be deeply introspective and possibly step down.

anyways, reid is pretty damn useless as leadership material, so maybe he should step down as majority leader or at least offer to not run this year. that way he could either make room for a real progressive (senate majority leader franken has a pretty nice ring to it) to lead or even vote in the senate.

balli
01-09-2010, 07:57 PM
eh, Reid is a chump, but in terms of lightening rods for criticism, this liberal would much rather rid the Democrats of Pelosi. It's too much to hope that they both go. Probably too much to hope that even one goes. Damn.

But oh well, as American's everywhere know, it beats Delay, Frist, et al...

George Gervin's Afro
01-09-2010, 08:00 PM
eh, Reid is a chump, but in terms of lightening rods for criticism, this liberal would much rather rid the Democrats of Pelosi. It's too much to hope that they both go. Probably too much to hope that even one goes. Damn.

But oh well, as American's everywhere know, it beats Delay, Frist, et al...

I agree that Reid is a chump..

balli
01-09-2010, 08:01 PM
I agree that Reid is a chump..

You and I get the dignity of saying that though. We didn't try to elect a stone cold moron to 'be in charge of the senate'. Anyone who did has no business reaching such a conclusion.

Winehole23
01-10-2010, 04:53 AM
You and I get the dignity of saying that though. We didn't try to elect a stone cold moron to 'be in charge of the senate'. Anyone who did has no business reaching such a conclusion.The great State of Nevada did.

Creepn
01-10-2010, 07:40 AM
In his apology, Reid said, "I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words."

Which leads one to wonder, what would have been a better choice of words to say Barack Obama can get elected because he's a black man that doesn't look or sound black?

LMAO wow! You got problems.

And wtf you mean that he doesn't look black?? If you saw him walking towards you as a normal citizen, I guarantee you would think him a black guy. What the fuck else does he look like? White?? Mexican??

But I guess it must be confusing to people like Reid and yourself because he's an articulate speaker so he can't be black. Do you think Martin Luther King is something other than black? Serious question.

boutons_deux
01-10-2010, 09:49 AM
The right-wing noise, hate, and distraction choir resurrects this screw-up now (and their ST devotees chirp in on queue). Why now? How (AZ) negro votes will this cost Reid?

George Gervin's Afro
01-10-2010, 10:35 AM
I always thought the dead enders were about ending political correctness.. they should be praising reid for his comments..

Yonivore
01-10-2010, 12:09 PM
But I guess it must be confusing to people like Reid and yourself because he's an articulate speaker so he can't be black. Do you think Martin Luther King is something other than black? Serious question.
You can take me out of that sentence because, I was actually talking about what Reid was trying to say and asking the board what a better choice of words would have been since he's only copping to a poor choice of words.

But, thanks for making the point that Reid is a racist. You're right.

Yonivore
01-10-2010, 12:09 PM
I always thought the dead enders were about ending political correctness.. they should be praising reid for his comments..
Reid's statement is a logical outcome of political correctness.

George Gervin's Afro
01-10-2010, 12:16 PM
You can take me out of that sentence because, I was actually talking about what Reid was trying to say and asking the board what a better choice of words would have been since he's only copping to a poor choice of words.

But, thanks for making the point that Reid is a racist. You're right.

what was he trying to say yoni?

Yonivore
01-10-2010, 12:33 PM
what was he trying to say yoni?
I think I posted that earlier. It appears to me that he was trying to say Obama is electable black person because he's light-skinned and doesn't sound black. I left off the end of the quote where Reid apparently says Obama does this (not sounding black) at will.

What do you think he was trying to say?

And, if I'm correct, what would have been a better choice of words since he's only copping to a poor choice?

ChumpDumper
01-10-2010, 05:12 PM
Maybe some black guy yelled at him at a gas station.

Creepn
01-10-2010, 08:29 PM
You can take me out of that sentence because, I was actually talking about what Reid was trying to say and asking the board what a better choice of words would have been since he's only copping to a poor choice of words.

But, thanks for making the point that Reid is a racist. You're right.

I included your name because it seemed that you were baffled to how else Reid couldve worded it a different way. Because why bother ask a stupid and obviously ignorant question if you already knew the answer?

I apologize if I read too much into it then.

Yonivore
01-10-2010, 08:50 PM
I included your name because it seemed that you were baffled to how else Reid couldve worded it a different way. Because why bother ask a stupid and obviously ignorant question if you already knew the answer?

I apologize if I read too much into it then.
It was, in fact, rhetorical.

Reid saying it was a bad choice of words doesn't answer the obvious question of what words, exactly, he would have chosen to say what he was saying.

Winehole23
01-10-2010, 09:09 PM
Articulate and well-spoken are the accepted euphemisms, I believe.

Winehole23
01-10-2010, 09:10 PM
H/T, Chumpy. The conversation came back around to it.

Oh, Gee!!
01-11-2010, 12:12 AM
...for a conservative politician.



well, Reid should thank his lucky stars he's not a republican

elbamba
01-11-2010, 02:04 PM
Reid is not going to be re-elected anyway so who cares.

Winehole23
01-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Joe Biden had his own "articulate, well spoken" gaffe during the campaign. Obama apparently got over it.

DarrinS
01-11-2010, 02:30 PM
Some other gems

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symple19
01-11-2010, 02:34 PM
Reid is not going to be re-elected anyway so who cares.

exactly

symple19
01-11-2010, 02:35 PM
Actually, if I were Republican I would want Reid to stay. IF he leaves, a competent Democrat may take his place

Winehole23
01-11-2010, 02:43 PM
Sen. Clinton's gaffe ("Mahatma Gandhi ran a gas station in Missouri") seems more like a misfired joke than an intended slight, but Biden's (''you cannot go to a dunkin donuts or 7-11 without having a slight Indian accent") seems more like a jack-assed and socially awkward, sociological observation.

jack sommerset
01-11-2010, 03:10 PM
Democrats can be racist too. Shocking!

TeyshaBlue
01-11-2010, 03:21 PM
I agree that Reid is a chump..

Reid is the left's Trent Lott.

Shall we invite them to a get together and roll a grenade in the room?:lol

da_suns_fan
01-11-2010, 03:48 PM
...for a conservative politician.

Reid apologies for 'no Negro dialect' comment (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid)

I like how he felt the need to Barrack Obama. As if only Obama deserves an apology when you claim a black man can win only if he's "light skinned".

MannyIsGod
01-11-2010, 05:30 PM
Senator Cornyn

2007-2008 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=4367)'s position, Senator Cornyn received a rating of 28 percent.




Senator Reid


2007-2008 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=4367)'s position, Senator Reid received a rating of 90 percent.




The source of these ratings is Project Vote Smart.

TeyshaBlue
01-11-2010, 05:37 PM
Senator Cornyn

2007-2008 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=4367)'s position, Senator Cornyn received a rating of 28 percent.




Senator Reid


2007-2008 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=4367)'s position, Senator Reid received a rating of 90 percent.




The source of these ratings is Project Vote Smart.

Project Vote Smart collects performance evaluations from special interest groups who provide them, regardless of issue or bias. If you have any comments concerning performance evaluations or know of a group that provides ratings not included here, please contact us at [email protected].

Keep in mind that ratings done by special interest groups can be biased. They frequently do not represent a non-partisan stance. In addition, some groups select votes that tend to favor members of one political party over another, rather than choosing votes based solely on issues concerns.



There is no listing of specific criteria. This ranking tells us just about nothing.

MannyIsGod
01-11-2010, 05:44 PM
:lmao

Of course the NAACP is biased. The ratings tell you who they think voted in favor of their agenda.

TeyshaBlue
01-11-2010, 05:46 PM
:lmao

Of course the NAACP is biased. The ratings tell you who they think voted in favor of their agenda.

So, as I said. It tells us basically nothing. Ok then. I could've grokked the NAACP's opinion without a "poll".:downspin:

MannyIsGod
01-11-2010, 05:54 PM
So, as I said. It tells us basically nothing. Ok then. I could've grokked the NAACP's opinion without a "poll".:downspin:

Its not a poll. They mean exactly what they're supposed to mean: Who votes in favor of the agenda of the NAACP.

Look, its not my fault you don't understand the purpose of interest group ratings and how they are supposed to be used, but that doesn't make them worthless. So next time you guys want to bitch about career enders and how racist democrats are maybe you should think about how actions speak louder than words.

I supposed the NAACP could be giving the GOP bad ratings simply because they're mean but somehow I doubt that's the case.

TeyshaBlue
01-11-2010, 05:55 PM
Its not a poll. They mean exactly what they're supposed to mean: Who votes in favor of the agenda of the NAACP.

Look, its not my fault you don't understand the purpose of interest group ratings and how they are supposed to be used, but that doesn't make them worthless. So next time you guys want to bitch about career enders and how racist democrats are maybe you should think about how actions speak louder than words.

Us guys? ROFL.:lmao:lmao

MannyIsGod
01-11-2010, 05:56 PM
us guys? Rofl.:lmao:lmao

lol lmao! Rofl!

101A
01-12-2010, 11:11 AM
:lmao

Of course the NAACP is biased. The ratings tell you who they think voted in favor of their agenda.

In other words, we don't care if you're a racist; just vote the way we want you to. (Which it ought to be pointed out is to vote the way the NAACP wants you to; to benefit the NAACP, which may not be the same as benefiting African Americans - the name of the organization not withstanding).

boutons_deux
01-12-2010, 11:30 AM
Reid spoke the truth.

If Magic Negro had been as black as Ian Mahinmi, he probably wouldn't have had a chance.

So funny that the 99.5% lily-white and racist Repugs, with a blatantly token Negro as RNC chairman, chosen in transparently patronizing response to a NEGRO being elected Prez, are so OUTRAGED in their defense of .... negroes.

Repugs are as enraged now as they were about ACORN registering all those POOR NEGROES to vote for a NEGRO.

The United NEGRO College Fund and NAA of COLORED People are amused.

DarrinS
01-12-2010, 11:35 AM
Senator Cornyn

2007-2008 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=4367)'s position, Senator Cornyn received a rating of 28 percent.




Senator Reid


2007-2008 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=4367)'s position, Senator Reid received a rating of 90 percent.




The source of these ratings is Project Vote Smart.




Wow Manny. That's some hardcore scientific shit you've dredged up.

Winehole23
01-12-2010, 12:08 PM
Reid spoke the truth. By a mile, this is the most interesting take so far.


If Magic Negro had been as black as Ian Mahinmi, he probably wouldn't have had a chance. Tint discrimination. I suppose we're all immune to that by now.


So funny that the 99.5% lily-white and racist Repugs, with a blatantly token Negro as RNC chairman, chosen in transparently patronizing response to a NEGRO being elected Prez...I thought so too. Why else would they choose a known hobo-roller (http://www.gazette.net/stories/110706/princou134628_31968.shtml) like Michael Steele? (OTOH, maybe they respected that)


...are so OUTRAGED in their defense of .... negroes. It's even funnier to me that the GOP hates Michael Steele, but can't bring itself to fire him.

Oh well, the expressions of outrage over contrived racial slights at least have consistency in their favor:


HYPOCRITE, n. One who, professing virtues that he does not respect, secures the advantage of seeming to be what he depises. --Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary (http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/h.html)