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Chomag
01-15-2010, 09:54 PM
On another note how about that Gereld wallace? I was never on his band wagon when he entered the league but he has turned out to be a very fine player. The man can ball.
TJastal
01-15-2010, 09:56 PM
nothing is wrong with them, the problem tonight was lineup choices, such as playing the whole third quarter with a tiny lineup (during which time bobcats 'coincidently' pounded the paint and boards and built a 15 point lead). if we had played a true big or 2 the whole third it would have been a much closer game.
play the right matchups and we have no problem with this team.
+1
Problem ain't the players, its the coach
duncan228
01-15-2010, 09:56 PM
Diaw scores 26 as Bobcats shut down Spurs 92-76 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2010011530&prov=ap)
By Mike Cranston
Boris Diaw had 26 points and 11 rebounds, Gerald Wallace added 21 points and the Charlotte Bobcats used stifling second-half defense to beat the San Antonio Spurs 92-76 on Friday night for their franchise-record sixth straight home win.
With Wallace collecting acrobatic blocks, the Bobcats took control with a dominant defensive stand that bridged the third and fourth quarters. The Spurs went more than 9 minutes without a field goal, and the Bobcats’ 19-2 run put them ahead 70-57 and secured their sixth win in seven games overall.
San Antonio snapped a three-game winning streak with Tim Duncan struggling in his return after the veteran was given a game off to rest. Duncan hit just 4 of 12 shots and had 10 points and nine rebounds.
DeJuan Blair had 11 points and 16 rebounds, one game after he had 28 points and 21 rebounds in a win over Oklahoma City. It wasn’t enough for the Spurs, who had been 10-1 all-time against the Bobcats, including 5-0 on the road.
In his second season in Charlotte, Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown has the Bobcats finding ways to win as they improved to 15-4 at home and within a game of .500 overall.
And with their offense struggling for much of the first three quarters, Charlotte turned to its calling card—defense.
Coming in giving up a league-low 92.9 points a game, the Bobcats held the Spurs to 39 percent shooting, including 5 of 25 from 3-point range.
Wallace recorded five blocks and four steals, while Diaw took over offensively in his breakout game of the season. Afrer his role in the offense seemed unclear when the Bobcats acquired Stephen Jackson in November, Diaw has been slowly getting more involved.
Friday night he was hitting from the outside and a force inside. Diaw hit 10 of 14 shots, including all four 3-point attempts. Jackson added 16 points and reserve Flip Murray 11.
Duncan was given the night off Wednesday, but the Spurs won anyway against the Thunder. Instead of looking fresh, Duncan looked a step slow on the second game of San Antonio’s four-game trip that takes it to Memphis Saturday.
Still, the Spurs took the lead early in the second quarter and held a slim edge until their long drought started after Tony Parker’s three-point play gave San Antonio a 55-51 lead with 6:17 left in the third quarter.
The matchup of old coaching buddies Gregg Popovich and Brown got off to an ugly start. Showing just how devoid of flow the first half was, officials called three defensive 3-second violations in a 1:17 span of the second quarter—and Roger Mason Jr. and Jackson combined to miss all three free throws.
Duncan missed his first four shots and didn’t get his first field goal until late in the second quarter. Charlotte starters Jackson and Raymond Felton combined to shoot 2 for 11, and the Spurs lead 42-38 at the break.
NOTES: Bobcats C Tyson Chandler missed his 10th straight game with a stress reaction in his left foot. He’s out of a protective boot, but still hasn’t practiced. “It’s not exactly painful, it’s just a little uncomfortable,” Chandler said after shootaround. “I just have to make sure I’m not in a situation where we’re rushing and taking a couple of steps back.” … Popovich said G Michael Finley (ankle) is “within a week or a week and a half” of returning. … Mason swished a three-quarter court shot to end the third quarter, but it came after the buzzer.
alchemist
01-15-2010, 09:56 PM
nothing is wrong with them, the problem tonight was lineup choices, such as playing the whole third quarter with a tiny lineup (during which time bobcats 'coincidently' pounded the paint and boards and built a 15 point lead). if we had played a true big or 2 the whole third it would have been a much closer game.
play the right matchups and we have no problem with this team.
No. The Cats closed off lanes and the Spurs didn't have their jumpers going today. This was going to be a tough win no matter who you put out with those circumstances.
objective
01-15-2010, 09:56 PM
Wallace has pretty much always been good when he's healthy and given opportunities, but his concussion concerns aren't a small matter.
Budkin
01-15-2010, 09:56 PM
Now your really going overboard.
It was so good to see them get the fire back the last two games that it was painful to see them play so poorly tonight, especially against a mediocre team.
alchemist
01-15-2010, 09:57 PM
+1
Problem ain't the players, its the coach
that Pop jumper was awful tonight :rolleyes
Budkin
01-15-2010, 09:57 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
Much deserved tonight. Where's stretch with our "LOL" Spurs thread?
TJastal
01-15-2010, 09:58 PM
On another note how about that Gereld wallace? I was never on his band wagon when he entered the league but he has turned out to be a very fine player. The man can ball.
Having nobody to protect the rim for half the game made him look a lot better than he is.
When Ian was in there he got his lunch money taken and beat down like a girl.
EricB
01-15-2010, 09:58 PM
It was so good to see them get the fire back the last two games that it was painful to see them play so poorly tonight, especially against a mediocre team.
Let down game.
Think about it. You get up for the Thunder and Lakers cause you have motivation to get way the hell up for both.
Bobcats? Meh.
And it totally showed. Human nature, no matter how much your getting paid.
EricB
01-15-2010, 09:59 PM
Having nobody to protect the rim for half the game made him look a lot better than he is.
When Ian was in there he got his lunch money taken and beat down like a girl.
Oh for christ sakes, the guys a freaking all star....
TJastal
01-15-2010, 09:59 PM
that Pop jumper was awful tonight :rolleyes
The points in the paint was again a factor, because of the small ball. Playing small ball last time I checked was up to the coach not the players.
Ice009
01-15-2010, 10:00 PM
Most experience.
Watch the games he would take over too, the team would play like dog crap.
I can remember one exactly in 06-07 when they played an undermanned Hornets team and they had a big lead going Pop gets tossed, then they damn near lose and PJ looked flustered the whole time.
Looks are decieving.
What was the score of that game. I thought we won it by a lot in a blowout?
I don't recall him being flustered at all. I am still pretty sure he was the lead assistant. I thought I read when here was here he was the lead assistant. maybe the articles I read were wrong?
The reason I would like PJ back is because the offense, I thought was good with him. The Spurs have way more weapons now so I think PJ could do some good stuff with them.
EricB
01-15-2010, 10:00 PM
Wallace has pretty much always been good when he's healthy and given opportunities, but his concussion concerns aren't a small matter.
Yeah and he's pretty reckless going to the lane so any little head to the knee, elbow to the head, head to the floor is gonna make the team cringe.
Yeah the Bobcats should have their first all star this year IMO.
TJastal
01-15-2010, 10:01 PM
Oh for christ sakes, the guys a freaking all star....
Yah, that's why Ian sent his shit packing huh?
Ice009
01-15-2010, 10:01 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
The guy whos team is owned by the Bobcats comes in to talk shit and own himself.
EricB
01-15-2010, 10:02 PM
What was the score of that game. I thought we won it by a lot? I recall that game you just mentioned as one of the games he took over.
I don't recall him being flustered at all. I am still pretty sure he was the lead assistant. I thought I read when here was here he was the lead assistant. maybe the articles I read were wrong?
The reason I would like PJ back is because the offense, I thought was good with him. The Spurs have way more weapons now so I think PJ could do some good stuff with them.
I sat behind the bench that night, Pop getting tossed was hilarious.
I was there. barely won and the team management was horrible.
Not as bad as Coach Bud's the other night against Dallas, but baddddd.
EricB
01-15-2010, 10:02 PM
Yah, that's why Ian sent his shit packing huh?
Seriously....
Chomag
01-15-2010, 10:03 PM
No. The Cats closed off lanes and the Spurs didn't have their jumpers going today. This was going to be a tough win no matter who you put out with those circumstances.
Pretty much of what the playoffs are all about. Hopefully the guys will and I'm sure they will learn from this, and be able to use what they have learned when that times comes.
Ice009
01-15-2010, 10:03 PM
P.J. Carlesimo returned to the NBA head-coaching ranks when he was named head coach of the Seattle SuperSonics on July 5, 2007. The 15th coach in Sonics franchise history, Carlesimo brings 34 years of coaching experience to the Sonics, including 25 years as head coach.
For the past five seasons (2002-07), Carlesimo served as Gregg Popovich’s lead assistant with the San Antonio Spurs, winners of three of the last five NBA titles.
http://www.nba.com/coachfile/pj_carlesimo/index.html
Thanks Ploto. I was sure PJ was the lead assistant.
EricB
01-15-2010, 10:03 PM
The points in the paint was again a factor, because of the small ball. Playing small ball last time I checked was up to the coach not the players.
No the factor was the team being lethargic as hell, and the Bobcats points came alot in transition and on threes (boris diaw, miss him on the telecast?)
Ian Mahimi wasn't gonna bag threes to open up the floor on the offensive end.
EricB
01-15-2010, 10:04 PM
Thanks Ploto. I was sure PJ was the lead assistant.
IN NAME ONLY
:bang:bang:bang:bang
Ice009
01-15-2010, 10:04 PM
I sat behind the bench that night, Pop getting tossed was hilarious.
I was there. barely won and the team management was horrible.
Not as bad as Coach Bud's the other night against Dallas, but baddddd.
lol what was the score of the game? Unless I am thinking of another Hornets game I thought we won that one big.
Ice009
01-15-2010, 10:05 PM
IN NAME ONLY
:bang:bang:bang:bang
What do you mean in name only.
Do you want to elaborate or keep repeating the same thing. You can elaborate here, unless you don't know what you are talking about.
alchemist
01-15-2010, 10:05 PM
Pretty much of what the playoffs are all about. Hopefully the guys will and I'm sure they will learn from this, and be able to use what they have learned when that times comes.
hopefully they'll learn
The points in the paint was again a factor, because of the small ball. Playing small ball last time I checked was up to the coach not the players.
this
EricB
01-15-2010, 10:07 PM
What do you mean in name only.
Do you want to elaborate or keep repeating the same thing. You can elaborate here, unless you don't know what you are talking about.
Whats in name only mean?
He was the lead in name only. He had the duties to take over for pop but other than that, he didn't influence anything other than run a practice or two.
He wasn't the O coordinator or ANYTHING!.
alchemist
01-15-2010, 10:10 PM
The points in the paint was again a factor, because of the small ball. Playing small ball last time I checked was up to the coach not the players.
You can't score inside if they're not worried about your 15+ footer, they'll just continue to pack it inside. Everything was contested as well, they played great defense. Another way to counter this is to get a ton of fast break points.
SpursRulez4eVeR
01-15-2010, 10:12 PM
the griz is about to double the amount of points we have scored tonight they must be having fun
Ice009
01-15-2010, 10:14 PM
Whats in name only mean?
He was the lead in name only. He had the duties to take over for pop but other than that, he didn't influence anything other than run a practice or two.
He wasn't the O coordinator or ANYTHING!.
Yeah, I know what name only means, but you didn't elaborate like you just did now. That was what I wanted to know.
Now why was he the lead assistant in name only? Why not give it to Budenholzer?
hsxvvd
01-15-2010, 10:14 PM
WTf, Pop is a defensive coach.
You guys are overthinking this.
This is true, and it always has been, but we've generally had another defensive brain to provide support. We need a Tom Thibodeau, Don Chaney type coach to provide Pop some support.
murpjf88
01-15-2010, 10:18 PM
nothing is wrong with them, the problem tonight was lineup choices, such as playing the whole third quarter with a tiny lineup (during which time bobcats 'coincidently' pounded the paint and boards and built a 15 point lead). if we had played a true big or 2 the whole third it would have been a much closer game.
play the right matchups and we have no problem with this team.
+1
Problem ain't the players, its the coach
After 4 rings, its the coach. Did pop forget how to coach all of a sudden? If the players knocked down some shots, and took care of the basketball, they would have been it too. This was an UGLY game all around. The Spurs didn't deserve to win this game.
alchemist
01-15-2010, 10:23 PM
After 4 rings, its the coach. Did pop forget how to coach all of a sudden? If the players knocked down some shots, and took care of the basketball, they would have been it too. This was an UGLY game all around.
:toast all those unforced turnovers they committed kicked them in the ass.
duncan228
01-15-2010, 11:09 PM
Updated with quotes.
Diaw scores 26 as Bobcats shut down Spurs 92-76 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2010011530&prov=ap)
By Mike Cranston
Moments after Boris Diaw’ dominating performance, Stephen Jackson pulled the Bobcats’ power forward aside for a quick chat. Across the locker room, Charlotte point guard Raymond Felton was showering Diaw with superlatives.
The Bobcats had just beaten the San Antonio Spurs 92-76 on Friday night for their franchise record sixth-straight home win. But all they could think about was how good they could be if Diaw permanently ended his season-long funk and played like he did against the Spurs—26 points and 11 rebounds—every night.
“I told him after the game that we’re going to be hard to beat if he’s aggressive,” Jackson said. “There are not too many 4-men in this league that can handle the ball, shoot, pass at that size. I think he frees up a lot of stuff on the offensive end for me and Gerald (Wallace) when he can pick and pop or make plays for us.”
Wallace added 21 points and collected five acrobatic blocks and four steals as the Bobcats took control with a dominant defensive stand that bridged the third and fourth quarters. The Spurs went more than 9 minutes without a field goal, and the Bobcats’ 19-2 run put them ahead 70-57 and secured their sixth win in seven games.
And now even Diaw is playing well. It was less than a month ago that Jackson and Wallace criticized Diaw for his passive offense and lack of rebounding. With Diaw seemingly finding his groove after Jackson’s acquisition, the Bobcats are full of confidence.
“The way he played tonight, if we can get that the rest of the season, we’re going to be all right, man,” Felton said.
The combination was too much for the Spurs, who saw their three-game winning streak snapped with Tim Duncan struggling in his return after the veteran was given a game off to rest. Duncan hit just 4 of 12 shots and had 10 points and nine rebounds.
“They were quick,” Duncan said. “They were very aggressive defensively, and they kept the pressure on us.”
DeJuan Blair added 11 points and 16 rebounds, one game after he had 28 points and 21 rebounds in a win over Oklahoma City. It wasn’t enough for the Spurs, who had been 10-1 all-time against the Bobcats, including 5-0 on the road
In his second season in Charlotte, coach Larry Brown has the Bobcats finding ways to win. Coming in giving up a league-low 92.9 points a game, the Bobcats overcame a sluggish offense early by holding the Spurs to 39 percent shooting, including 5 of 25 from 3-point range.
“It’s a typical Larry Brown team,” said Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, a former assistant under Brown in San Antonio. “Just tenacious, physical, pressure defense. Creating turnovers, creating offense out of turnovers. You knew it coming in. But we reacted poorly to it.”
With Wallace rejecting Duncan and others, San Antonio missed 14 consecutive shots in Charlotte’s game-clinching spurt.
Meanwhile, Diaw was cleaning up at the other end. Entering the game averaging only 9.8 points and 4.3 rebounds after averaging 15 points and six rebounds with Charlotte last season, he hit 10 of 14 shots, including all four 3-point attempts. Jackson added 16 points and reserve Flip Murray 11.
“We’ve just got to play consistent and the same way against everybody,” Diaw said.
San Antonio dropped to 15-5 in its last 20 games while getting little from Duncan. Instead of looking fresh after sitting out Wednesday’s win over Oklahoma City, Duncan looked a step slow in the second game on San Antonio’s four-game trip.
Still, the Spurs took the lead early in the second quarter and held a slim edge until their long drought started after Tony Parker’s three-point play gave them a 55-51 lead with 6:17 left in the third quarter.
But the Bobcats dominated from there, breaking the previous longest home winning streak of five set early in their inaugural season of 2004-05. They can reach .500 with another home win Saturday against Phoenix—Diaw’s former team.
“When (Diaw) shoots the ball well, it spreads the floor a lot more,” Duncan said. “He’s a 4 that can really dribble and drive the ball. When he can spread the floor and hit the 3s like he did tonight, it makes them that much better.”
NOTES: Bobcats C Tyson Chandler missed his 10th straight game with a stress reaction in his left foot. He’s out of a protective boot, but still hasn’t practiced. “It’s not exactly painful, it’s just a little uncomfortable,” Chandler said after shootaround. … Popovich said G Michael Finley (ankle) is “within a week or a week and a half” of returning. … Mason swished a three-quarter court shot to end the third quarter, but it came after the buzzer.
SpurNation
01-15-2010, 11:21 PM
Didn't get to see the Spurs game. Looks like I didn't miss much.
WOW...only 76 points by the Spurs. I just got back from my kid's game. She scored 24 enroute to their victory. Woo-Hoo.
Ice009
01-15-2010, 11:25 PM
Didn't get to see the Spurs game. Looks like I didn't miss much.
WOW...only 76 points by the Spurs. I just got back from my kid's game. She scored 24 enroute to their victory. Woo-Hoo.
At least your kid can hit a shot. Shocking how poorly some of the Spurs players shoot. Some of those shots were wide open and were not even close by guys like Bogans, Manu, Mason Jr.
ducks
01-15-2010, 11:30 PM
atleast all spurs were cold
they were all tired
law of averages will catch up and they should shot lights out tomorrow
Spurs Brazil
01-15-2010, 11:33 PM
Did McDyess get hurt in the first half? I saw him holding his shoulder . . .
It was just after that play Manu tried to pass to Dice and it was a TO
TJastal
01-15-2010, 11:49 PM
It was just after that play Manu tried to pass to Dice and it was a TO
This is the price the rest of the team is paying for Poop's decision to sit Duncan out.
Sean Cagney
01-16-2010, 12:14 AM
atleast all spurs were cold
they were all tired
law of averages will catch up and they should shot lights out tomorrow
If they are all tired after a night off how will they not be more tired tomorrow night? Just asking.
EricB
01-16-2010, 12:18 AM
This is the price the rest of the team is paying for Poop's decision to sit Duncan out.
so he should've ran Duncan out there a night after he played 40 minutes?
Awesome..
DUKEitOUT
01-16-2010, 02:56 AM
Im for the LINE UPthey put in at the end= Theo Rattliff,Ian Maimnie,Blair,Hasslip...what a front court
TJastal
01-16-2010, 03:01 AM
so he should've ran Duncan out there a night after he played 40 minutes?
Awesome..
He's not a pansy, and he's only going to be 34 years old and can handle a couple B2B's a year playing normal minutes.
He's averaging a measly 32 minutes a game, you think a handful of games out of the year playing 40 is really gonna kill him?
This idea of holding Duncan out of games is just fucking stupid to do, unless you are playing one of the absolute dregs of the league where victory is practically gauranteed.
Thanks to this moronic strategy, we've fucked up not just one, but TWO winning streaks now in the past month and totally screwed over our chemistry and momentum each time.
DUKEitOUT
01-16-2010, 03:02 AM
Putting that LINE UP in at the begining of the 3rd ...The Spurs always strugle in the 3rd because the oposeing team "ajusts" to there game..."Going big" for a good run would toast there energy and defense plan and ware them out...enough to go bac to plan A MEAT TENDERIZER LINE UP
DUKEitOUT
01-16-2010, 03:06 AM
You can't score inside if they're not worried about your 15+ footer, they'll just continue to pack it inside. Everything was contested as well, they played great defense. Another way to counter this is to get a ton of fast break points.
Going with a big line up for a quarter would salve alot of problems
DUKEitOUT
01-16-2010, 03:07 AM
You can't score inside if they're not worried about your 15+ footer, they'll just continue to pack it inside. Everything was contested as well, they played great defense. Another way to counter this is to get a ton of fast break points.
Your right,going big for a quarter would salve alot
Rapper
01-16-2010, 06:03 AM
Hey guys
Can you guys take advantage of this show to encourge people to vote for Timmy?
Today is the last day
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