Game Blog: Spurs vs. Jazz - Jan. 20

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Hmmmm, so Boozer has destroyed us as usual, and kirilenko has scored morethan he has in a decade. Not good.

[pawe]

TD: coach pop = senile

[slick'81]

one word tim your ruining the game lol

[siraulo23]

swept by jazz...

[ffadicted]

Well this sucks :(

[Shastafarian]

Hmmmm, so Boozer has destroyed us as usual, and kirilenko has scored morethan he has in a decade. Not good.

Answer = More small ball

[dbestpro]

Too many reasons the Spurs are not good enough. The two reasons that is the most painful to watch is the lack of effort and focus.

[redzero]

Are you watching the fucking game?

Yep, it's nice to see the Spurs not get 38 free throws.

[Johnny RIngo]

Look at those Utah cocksuckers thinking that Parker fouled him.

LOL clean blocks are fouls on the Spurs and hacking is a non call for Utah.

What a joke.

I knew the game was bullshit when I saw Duncan get called for the offensive on a light elbow while Kirilenko gets FTs doing the same shit.

[dirk4mvp]

Funny you say that, because a certain poster told me otherwise. In fact, I heard you are in crew limbo.


Det would be JT who is trying to be in the Mavs klan and the mookie crew at the same time. he just kent dew tings leik det.

[ffadicted]

TP is -26 tonight boys :(

[Budkin]

Just like the good old days... owned by the Jazz!

[txallstar]

why can't the spurs ever just foul the shit out of some one going to the lane, just one time let t hem know it isn't easy, floor some one, always refuse to do that

[007nites]

Timmy has like 10 offensive rebounds.

[slick'81]

1 away lets go timmy

[Tp9gospursgo]

refs dont want duncan to get 20k points tonight. he has 5 fouls all in the second half..

[Spurologist]

Need some fucking stops

[Budkin]

Without a major trade this team will not get out of the first round... if they can even get there.

[TampaDude]

1 point to go for Timmy...

[Johnny RIngo]

Refs probably going to try to even out the calls now that the game is out of out reach.

[duncan228]

1 point...maybe we see it tonight.

[HarlemHeat37]

I hope Duncan doesn't get to 20K in a losing effort..I'd rather he get it next game if that's the case..

Hill chokes..

[slick'81]

brick

[hitmanyr2k]

Hill HAS to make that

[pawe]

Look at how that fucking pussy dick jefferson play. What a fucking coward.

[TampaDude]

Damn, Hill...we needed that...

[slick'81]

booooozer

[jag]

I'll give it to Sloan, his teams have always thrived on physicality. They play tough as hell.

[redzero]

Boozer tapping that ass!

[Ice009]

That was putrid.

Why did manu not get a touch?????????

[iggypop123]

boozer goes left. and in related news the sky is blue

[Spurologist]

DAMN 5 points turnaround...that just about wraps it up

:pctoss

[slick'81]

99-92

[Chieflion]

It is over, Boozer kills again.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Wow thanks Hill.

Fuck

[007nites]

timmy 1 mo

[BanditHiro]

fucking boozer just get traded already

[Duncan21kid]

are you kidding me georgie ?

[Ice009]

Manu should have had a touch that last offensive possession.

[murpjf88]

spurs can't score unless utah scores

[symple19]

Dammmmmmit

[dbestpro]

The body is willing but the mind and spirit is weak.

[TampaDude]

Bowen would've nailed that corner 3.

[DPG21920]

Det would be JT who is trying to be in the Mavs klan and the mookie crew at the same time. he just kent dew tings leik det.

It was most definitely not JT. But evidently you have more problems on your hands than even I could have imagined. Bloadedddddddd.

[dirk4mvp]

lol Boozer is killing the Spurs like he plays for the Mavs.

[hitmanyr2k]

Is Theo Ratliff hurt? In the doghouse? On another planet? What the fuck did the Spurs get him for anyway? Why not stick him on Boozer and try to intimidate some of those shots in the paint?

[Ice009]

Rj is horrible. I thought he was going to turn it over with that high dribble of his. Giving rj the ball wasted about 10 full seconds on that possession.

[Amarelooms]

Spurs and Mavs need to do a trade to help eachother...maybe Manu for JHO :elephant

[ffadicted]

Spurs miss a wide open 3 pointer...
.... Boozer gets a wide open jay

That's game fellas

[timtonymanu]

Weak. Weak. Weak.

That is not the Spurs out there. This is some pussy ass team.

[dirk4mvp]

It was most definitely not JT. But evidently you have more problems on your hands than even I could have imagined. Bloadedddddddd.

I know not what you speak of i said.

[Ice009]

Not giving manu the ball may have just wasted this game.

[dbestpro]

Yep, it's nice to see the Spurs not get 38 free throws.

........ and the reason is our lack of aggression.

[TampaDude]

Utah can go 4-0 against the Spurs in the regular season...we all know who owns who in the playoffs.

[HankChinaski]

You realize Hill has played a huge chunk of the 2nd half. Pretty hard I might add.

RJ going away from taking to the hole was the bad call on the play.

[Allanon]

Oh yeah, this is a whole lot better.

Let's bring in 6'7 Jefferson to play Power Forward.

Sit Tim, no 20,000 points in getting swept by the Jazz.

[slick'81]

down to 5 defense

[Johnny RIngo]

Why do even put Jefferson in? He has all the mannerisms of a loser.

[sanman53]

Duncan needed some help on Defense in the 4th Q. 5 fouls as the only big man, the way the refs were calling the game, he needed help.

[HarlemHeat37]

fucking RJ, why doesn't he do that shit earlier?..

[Chieflion]

Who is the pussy now?

[redzero]

lol Boozer is killing the Spurs like he plays for the Mavs.

Maybe the Mavs should look into getting him.

[slick'81]

tp to the line

[Spurologist]

we need these tp

[td4mvp21]

Mason was wide fucking open!!!

[TampaDude]

Must...make...both...of...these...

[balli]

Maybe the Mavs should look into getting him.

:tu

[VBM]

Mason was wide open tony...knock the freebies down...

[slick'81]

99-96 defense!!!! defense!!!! defense!!!

[TampaDude]

3-point game!

[LakerHater]

Man Bozzer, & I thought KoMe whinned alot!

[slick'81]

bail out

[Shastafarian]

lol thanks refs :tu

[slick'81]

duncan done

[txallstar]

spurs need some serious help on the boards duncan is still the only rebounder on the team despite signing mcdyess and the what was the point of signing ratliff? does he ever play besides garbage time

[hitmanyr2k]

Boozer has been killing you all fuckin game. How do you lose him in the paint AGAIN?!? What the fuck man?

[redzero]

NO 20,000 TONIGHT, TIMMY!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

gg

[Chieflion]

That was a foul?

[Libri]

Tim fouls out.

[Spurologist]

unFUCKINGbelievable

[Amarelooms]

lol Duncan 1pt away and fouls out....so sad...how the mighty have fallen :elephant

[TampaDude]

Good...TD fouled out...don't get 20K in a loss.

[slick'81]

lol pussy call

[Tp9gospursgo]

Bullshit call on timmy...

[pawe]

Wow what a call.

[duncan228]

Duncan fouls out. This just wasn't his night.

[Supergirl]

Did the refs just foul Duncan out?

[dbestpro]

Funny stuff.

[Ice009]

Man what crap defense from tim. He came too late on his rotation.

[ffadicted]

TD fouled out are you serious

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

at least it won't come in a losing effort thumb up

[DPG21920]

I know not what you speak of i said.

Brah, do I need to break this down for you with a Nickleback ballad playing in the back ground?

Peoples are talking that you have no wolf pack to run with. It is not who you think it is, which means not only are people wrecking you face to face, but there are snakes in the grass. Tread lightly.

[Supergirl]

Why do the refs love Boozer so much? Dude gets away with more than anyone since...Kenyon Martin.

[hitmanyr2k]

spurs need some serious help on the boards duncan is still the only rebounder on the team despite signing mcdyess and the what was the point of signing ratliff? does he ever play besides garbage time

I asked the same question a couple of pages ago lol. What was the point of signing Ratliff if you never use him for games like this? Popovich is fuckin ridiculous.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Wow. The Jazz own us.

[slick'81]

game.

[mexicanjunior]

Good...TD fouled out...don't get 20K in a loss.

The Rockets are no gimme...

[Allanon]

I'm glad Tim saved his 20,000 for the Rockets.

[Shastafarian]

How is that not a foul on Boozer? What was a well officiated game turned to shit real quick.

[dbestpro]

Hill had no clutch.

[BanditHiro]

Wow. The Jazz own us.

Utah Refs owned us

[alchemist]

Wow. The refs own us.
:ihit

[HarlemHeat37]

LOL what a fitting way to end this game..

The Spurs are actually a perfect example of the incompetence of NBA officiating..the NBA calls games strictly by bias and reputation..the Spurs have declined as a team and it's not a coincidence that we no longer get any "reputation" calls in our favor..

[Josh810]

lol Duncan 1pt away and fouls out....so sad...how the mighty have fallen :elephant
lol? this applies to nothing, you're retarded.

[Spurtacus]

why are we playing 5 on 8 in games recently?

I hate NBA refs.

[Libri]

Did the refs just foul Duncan out?

When was the last time that happened.

[Supergirl]

ok, that's twice Hill has missed 3 pters he shouldn't have been taking in the first place. Hope he gets an earful from Pop later and that he learns quickly this year.

[slick'81]

sweep?!?! ugh

[td4mvp21]

Wish I could say that this would wake the team up. But nothing ever does. We hear the same bullshit after every fucking loss and nothing ever changes.

[DPG21920]

Wow, that is a pretty amazing "stat" they just mentioned.

[redzero]

The refs called that shit on Okafor on Monday, so it's only fitting that Timmy gets no love either.

[slick'81]

LOL what a fitting way to end this game..

The Spurs are actually a perfect example of this incompetence of NBA officiating..the NBA calls games strictly by bias and reputation..the Spurs have declined as a team and it's not a coincidence that we no longer get any "reputation" calls in our favor..

agreed

[TampaDude]

I knew TD would foul out after the crap calls all night.

[007nites]

Go to the duncan 20,000 thread and read my last post

[Ice009]

Why are the these losers playing hard now.

What a shit team the spurs are.

We need to trade away all the soft ass players on the team.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

Great now the Jazz believe they can win on our floor great job Spurs.

[Creation88]

what the fuck is up with the calls down the stretch. absolutely shitty.

[dirk4mvp]

Brah, do I need to break this down for you with a Nickleback ballad playing in the back ground?

Peoples are talking that you have no wolf pack to run with. It is not who you think it is, which means not only are people wrecking you face to face, but there are snakes in the grass. Tread lightly.

Your thoughts are sincere, but your words are false and bear no real meaning. I suggest you listen to photograph, turn the lights to dim, and enjoy your tv dinner.

[mexicanjunior]

Wish I could say that this would wake the team up. But nothing ever does. We hear the same bullshit after every fucking loss and nothing ever changes.

People have been saying that for months now...but people were too busy responding with "It's only ____" to listen...

[timtonymanu]

Wish I could say that this would wake the team up. But nothing ever does. We hear the same bullshit after every fucking loss and nothing ever changes.

Spurs lose to Roy-less Blazers (turning point - X)
Spurs allow Mavs to score 42 in the 4th (turning point - X)
Timmy fouls out (turning point - ? Doubt it)

[Budkin]

Really shitty fucking loss. This team just can't keep any kind of momentum.

[Ice009]

agreed

eXACTLY LIKE SHAQ. HE DOESN'T GET THE CALLS HE USED TO.

[Spurologist]

Props to the Jazz though.....they brought it tonight.....AK47 always seems to be the decider in these matches.

[TampaDude]

That's okay...we'll win 4 against the Jazz come playoff time. ;)

[Dex]

*puts on ear muffs, helmet, and tinfoil hat*

[Johnny RIngo]

Why do the refs love Boozer so much? Dude gets away with more than anyone since...Kenyon Martin.

TD"s been getting jobbed by the officials ever since the Crawford incident.

[Spurtacus]

Why are the these losers playing hard now.

What a shit team the spurs are.

We need to trade away all the soft ass players on the team.

Who are the soft players?

[TIMMYD!]

Refs suck, Stern must want the Jazz to win badly...

[boutons_deux]

Spurs aren't gonna win shit shooting 39% vs 47%.

[DPG21920]

I am listening to Metallica with the symphony and enjoying a beer.

[leemajors]

ok, that's twice Hill has missed 3 pters he shouldn't have been taking in the first place. Hope he gets an earful from Pop later and that he learns quickly this year.

Whatever. Earful of Pop is doing nothing for anyone on this team. How can a team with this talent keep coming out unmotivated night after night against teams over .500?

[murpjf88]

That's okay...we'll win 4 against the Jazz come playoff time. ;)

who says were going to the playoffs. Have you seen the upcoming schedule.

[symple19]

Goddamn frustrating loss

[balli]

Well, sucks for you guys. Refs aside, if you had asked me about what the Jazz would do this season, winning twice in SA would have been at about the bottom of my list.

[Ice009]

Spurs lose to Roy-less Blazers (turning point - X)
Spurs allow Mavs to score 42 in the 4th (turning point - X)
Timmy fouls out (turning point - ? Doubt it)

THE Spurs are doing a 360 here. They will soon be back to where they started. They haven't improved at all.

I am saying it the Spurs are getting worse as a team. We could come back from the road trip with a shitload of losses. Manu is getting better, but the rest of the guys like Bogans, RJ, McDyess are getting worse.

If the Spurs let Manu go they will completely suck. They are totally retarded if they don't resign Manu.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

expecting some kind of jazz pawned spurs title on nba front page

[Crookshanks]

I really hate the Jazz. They play so physical - they beat up our guys every game, but it seems THEY get all the calls.

[StoneBuddha]

REFS sucked it tonite

[mexicanjunior]

That's okay...we'll win 4 against the Jazz come playoff time. ;)

Playoffs?

http://msp73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/aykis16/playoffs.jpg

[leemajors]

I really hate the Jazz. They play so physical - they beat up our guys every game, but it seems THEY get all the calls.

we shot 39%, they shot 47%.

[poop]

the spurs did not play that bad...its just that Utah played like the dream team (as usual) hitting every shot, perfect passes, zero turnovers. that and the refs RUINED us and screwed tim over big time.

[TampaDude]

Playoffs?

http://msp73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/aykis16/playoffs.jpg

:lol

Seriously, though...we're not gonna miss the playoffs...c'mon...

[Chomag]

Our guys need to learn that the game of basketball is 48 minutes long and not 12.

[Ice009]

I think I know why Manu is pissed now.

They are paying guys like TP and RJ and McDyess all that cash and they suck ass. Yet Manu has done so much for them at a discounted rate they won't even offer him a fair contract.

You can see that in the biggest games Manu is the one that truly steps up and has the balls to do it, while everyone else just fucking disappears.

[leemajors]

I think I know why Manu is pissed now.

They are paying guys like TP and RJ and McDyess all that cash and they suck ass. Yet Manu has done so much for them at a discounted rate they won't even offer him a fair contract.

before tonight Manu was shooting 25% on the road trip.

[txallstar]

I really hate the Jazz. They play so physical - they beat up our guys every game, but it seems THEY get all the calls.

the spurs should play like that too bad they don't pop doesn't like that

[alchemist]

This game was pathetic on so many levels.

-Tim/Tony not showing up.
-RJ showing up only in the 1st quarter.
-Ginobili showing up in the 1st half, some of the 2nd.
-Reffing would've been okay had they been consistent.
-Dice. All that needs to be said about this man is that he should be bought out. Spurs need to cut their losses, this man can no longer play basketball.

-Tim deserved to get his 20k on National TV, this is so fucking pathetic :bang

[Ice009]

before tonight Manu was shooting 25% on the road trip.

And he is still one of the top 3 players on the team. He'll get into form and soon. I can't say that about the other guys. I don't expect much from anyone else at this point.

[mexicanjunior]

:lol

Seriously, though...we're not gonna miss the playoffs...c'mon...

If we squeak in, it will only be for a 1 and done...schedule is too hard going forward to expect any better than a 6-8 seed out of this team as currently constructed.

[txallstar]

rj is not working out at all, if he can't score he's pointless, plus he is playing with zero confidence, he looks like that little kid out there who can't get it right so ill just play lazy out there on the court and give up

[txallstar]

tp's jump shot has not shown up this season

[Johnny RIngo]

Spurs lose to Roy-less Blazers (turning point - X)
Spurs allow Mavs to score 42 in the 4th (turning point - X)
Timmy fouls out (turning point - ? Doubt it)

I blame Jefferson for infecting this team with his soft, apathetic attitude. Spurs would have been better off not trading for this cancer.

[ElNono]

Weak to bring out the refs now... It's simply not what lost this game. Boozer said it best in the postgame interview: We played solid defense and that kept us in the game. How could you have a 25-0 run and lose a game? You get lazy. You stop playing D.

I wrote about it in the preview thread. And please, no excuses with TP being hurt. DWill have had his wrist hurt for weeks now. They all simply played harder than we did and beat us fair and square. There's gotta be a lot of soulsearching on the Spurs right now. You can't pretend you can simply turn it on in April. Not gonna happen.

[TampaDude]

Get a big lead...blow that lead...lose the game...Same Old Spurs...

[txallstar]

i agree rj's attitude is infecting this team, trade him for a couple of back ups preferably a 7 footer whose only job is to board and foul, can't be any worse now

[balli]

I blame Jefferson for infecting this team with his soft, apathetic attitude. Spurs would have been better off not trading for this cancer..

Honestly I was shocked by what a lazy fuck he was when came in near the start of the first quarter. There's a reason AK went off tonight and it's because RJ was such a pussy guarding him that yes, even AK-47 was able to get his confidence going.

[leemajors]

Honestly I was shocked by what a lazy fuck he was when came in near the start of the first quarter. There's a reason AK went off tonight and it's because RJ was such a pussy guarding him that yes, even AK-47 was able to get his confidence going for him.

he didn't even try and chase him down to get a hand in his face, it was disgusting. total lack of effort.

[Johnny RIngo]

I still think it's ridiculous that there are people that think RJ is a better player than SJax.

[Pauleta14]

TP is -26 tonight boys :(


This stat is almost always irrelevent... (the start of the game was weird and Pop put him early on the bench, he is not to blame alone for the bad start!)

The blame can't be put on one sepcific player tonight, it was really a collective loss, lack of focus and defensive intensity!
And they still can't play with the same required level of intensity for 48 min !!!!!!!

That's what scares me the most!!!

Is it a physical/health problem? a "focus" problem? a chemistry one?....

[relic]

you can tell that the spurs were discourage by all the bad calls by the refs. It takes all your aggressiveness away.

[it's me]

This stat is almost always irrelevent... (the start of the game was weird and Pop put him early on the bench, he is not to blame alone for the bad start!)

The blame can't be put on one sepcific player tonight, it was really a collective loss, lack of focus and defensive intensity!
And they still can't play with the same required level of intensity for 48 min !!!!!!!

That's what scares me the most!!!

Is it a physical/health problem? a "focus" problem? a chemistry one?....

I agree that's irrelevant..... bottom line.... your boys sucks major ass lately, as the rest of the team.

[duncan228]

Updated.

Boozer, Jazz get 4th win over Spurs this season (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2010012024&prov=ap)
By Paul J. Weber

Sure, the Utah Jazz would rather sweep the San Antonio Spurs in the playoffs. But they’ll take this one.

Lopsided as this series has often been? You bet.

Carlos Boozer scored 31 points and 13 rebounds, and Andrei Kirilenko added 26 points as the Jazz beat the Spurs for a fourth and final time this regular season, 105-98 on Wednesday night.

“We’re proud of ourselves,” Boozer said. “They’re a championship team. We’ve never done that in the history, since I’ve been here. It’s been a long time since we swept them. Hopefully we can build on this.”

Few coaches have been around longer than Jerry Sloan and Gregg Popovich. But even Popovich wasn’t yet the head coach in San Antonio the last time Utah was this dominant against the Spurs.

The Jazz swept the season series for the first time since 1993-94, when Utah beat San Antonio five times during the regular season. The Jazz also went on to eliminate the Spurs 3-1 in the playoffs that same year.

More recently, the Jazz had been downright stumped against the Spurs. They entered the season having not won in San Antonio in a decade, but can now claim two wins at the AT&T Center in the same season.

Last decade, there was a period when Sloan endured the futility of Utah losing 18 straight to San Antonio. That said, Sloan quickly put these four wins in a somewhat muted perspective.

“When you look at the whole picture you see that you beat San Antonio four times this year, and you’re in ninth place,” Sloan said. “There’s not a whole lot of consolation when you look at the whole picture.”

Manu Ginobili scored 22 points for the Spurs, who had a 25-0 run but couldn’t prevail in a game of wild swings. The Jazz split a two-game road swing after losing to Denver on Sunday. Utah has won five of six.

The Jazz also deprived Tim Duncan from joining the 20,000-point club, holding the perennial All-Star to 14 points—leaving him at 19,999.

Duncan shot 5 of 15 and made just one shot in the fourth quarter. Boozer drew a sixth foul on Duncan with 30.1 seconds left and the Spurs trailing 99-96, and Boozer sank both free throws to seal the victory.

“It’s tough just seeing the team lose for the fourth time against the Jazz,” Ginobili said. “That’s hard to swallow.”

Three points was the closest San Antonio got after trailing by as many as 12 in the quarter. Tony Parker scored 10 of his 20 points in the fourth, but Boozer had eight down the stretch to keep the Spurs at bay.

“We beat them a lot over the years,” Parker said. “I think, you know, this year they had our number.”

Boozer picked up his 25th double-double of the season. Deron Williams also had a double-double, getting 18 points and 10 assists. Williams also didn’t turn the ball over.

George Hill had 16 points and Richard Jefferson had 12 for the Spurs.

San Antonio had crawled back into the game after a horrid start, missing its first eight shots. A 25-0 run over 5 minutes in the first half brought the Spurs back and then some, but the Jazz held off a final Spurs push.

The loss was a dulling start to a six-game homestand for the Spurs. The home games are the last for San Antonio before embarking on their annual “Rodeo Road Trip,” which will keep the Spurs away for virtually all of February while cowboys and cattle take over the AT&T Center for a month.

NOTES: Duncan will go for 20,000 points on Friday against Houston. Dallas’ Dirk Nowitzki and Boston’s Ray Allen have already hit the milestone this season.

[leemajors]

sweet this is probably a 3 loss streak

[Sean Cagney]

Get a big lead...blow that lead...lose the game...Same Old Spurs...

Same NEW SPURS, they used to blow leads but used to pull out more than half of those games and STEP UP ON D late :( This new Spurs team is what you desribed, the old one won more games and won titles :bang:bang

[SouthTexasRancher]

There are more problems on this team than meets the eye. I honestly think the core of Spurs who were here last season see RJ as a lazy, grab the money type of guy and he has become a cancer on this squad. There is resentment over the salary he makes that is second only to Tim and more than guys who have put in lots of blood, sweat and tears like Manu, Tony, Finley, Mason, and Bonner as well as Tim. These guys see RJ, Dice and Bogens who play over half of the time with their heads firmly planted up their ass as losers even though they would not admit it publicly. I feel bad for Tim & Holt. Both deserve a hell of a lot better than these 3 guys have given us. They have had more than ample time to show us at least a smidgen of trying to fit in. Pop and RC need to admit that they made a big mistake and try to rectify it any way they can. This team is not going to get better and will most likely get worse as so many teams are clicking now. Work some kind of trade magic before the deadline (yeah, good f'ing luck) to get us a big (long, tall and athletic) and another multi use player who can fill in at 2-3 positions. Frankly, do anything it takes to get a guy like Bosh. RJ, Dice and Bogans have been on talented teams with nada to show for it. They are not going to help turn this team into a championship team no matter how much some wish they would. It ain't gonna happen.......PERIOD!!!

Been a long night at the AT&T. Real sorry to see Tim foul out and not get his 20,000 points tonight. Pop, you owe it to Tim to get this sinking ship righted and soon or we won't even be in the playoffs. And even if we were to somehow make it we'd have to play Utah and beat them in the playoffs or a championship would definitely be tainted because no way could we claim to be the best. So get on the phone Pop & RC and salvage this season! :ihit

[Amuseddaysleeper]

There are more problems on this team than meets the eye. I honestly think the core of Spurs who were here last season see RJ as a lazy, grab the money type of guy and he has become a cancer on this squad. There is resentment over the salary he makes that is second only to Tim and more than guys who have put in lots of blood, sweat and tears like Manu, Tony, Finley, Mason, and Bonner as well as Tim. These guys see RJ, Dice and Bogens who play over half of the time with their heads firmly planted up their ass as losers even though they would not admit it publicly. I feel bad for Tim & Holt. Both deserve a hell of a lot better than these 3 guys have given us. They have had more than ample time to show us at least a smidgen of trying to fit in. Pop and RC need to admit that they made a big mistake and try to rectify it any way they can. This team is not going to get better and will most likely get worse as so many teams are clicking now. Work some kind of trade magic before the deadline (yeah, good f'ing luck) to get us a big (long, tall and athletic) and another multi use player who can fill in at 2-3 positions. Frankly, do anything it takes to get a guy like Bosh. RJ, Dice and Bogans have been on talented teams with nada to show for it. They are not going to help turn this team into a championship team no matter how much some wish they would. It ain't gonna happen.......PERIOD!!!

Been a long night at the AT&T. Real sorry to see Tim foul out and not get his 20,000 points tonight. Pop, you owe it to Tim to get this sinking ship righted and soon or we won't even be in the playoffs. And even if we were to somehow make it we'd have to play Utah and beat them in the playoffs or a championship would definitely be tainted because no way could we claim to be the best. So get on the phone Pop & RC and salvage this season! :ihit


In regards to RJ, the Spurs didn't sign him to that contract. They're paying him now, but there is no way in hell the Spurs would offer RJ more than Manu or Tony. The Spurs needed to improve and hardly gave up much for RJ.

Having said that, RJ and Dice need to go asap

[timtonymanu]

There are more problems on this team than meets the eye. I honestly think the core of Spurs who were here last season see RJ as a lazy, grab the money type of guy and he has become a cancer on this squad. There is resentment over the salary he makes that is second only to Tim and more than guys who have put in lots of blood, sweat and tears like Manu, Tony, Finley, Mason, and Bonner as well as Tim. These guys see RJ, Dice and Bogens who play over half of the time with their heads firmly planted up their ass as losers even though they would not admit it publicly. I feel bad for Tim & Holt. Both deserve a hell of a lot better than these 3 guys have given us. They have had more than ample time to show us at least a smidgen of trying to fit in. Pop and RC need to admit that they made a big mistake and try to rectify it any way they can. This team is not going to get better and will most likely get worse as so many teams are clicking now. Work some kind of trade magic before the deadline (yeah, good f'ing luck) to get us a big (long, tall and athletic) and another multi use player who can fill in at 2-3 positions. Frankly, do anything it takes to get a guy like Bosh. RJ, Dice and Bogans have been on talented teams with nada to show for it. They are not going to help turn this team into a championship team no matter how much some wish they would. It ain't gonna happen.......PERIOD!!!

Been a long night at the AT&T. Real sorry to see Tim foul out and not get his 20,000 points tonight. Pop, you owe it to Tim to get this sinking ship righted and soon or we won't even be in the playoffs. And even if we were to somehow make it we'd have to play Utah and beat them in the playoffs or a championship would definitely be tainted because no way could we claim to be the best. So get on the phone Pop & RC and salvage this season! :ihit


i dont think bogans is a problem. he's only getting paid less than a million and he has done better than what people's expectations of him were. he actually does have good stretch of games too where he gives alot of effort. i think people are just expecting him to be exactly like bowen which is why some people are disappointed with him.

RJ and Dice on the other hand need to get their heads out of their asses. RJ looks so unmotivated out there. I think he'll just be happy to make the playoffs at this point. I think he lost that killer mentality after missing the playoffs the last two years. Everyone is counting on him to lead us to title 5. Holt, RC, Pop, Tim. Everyone and so far he's been shitting bricks.

Dice looks like he has an overrated reputation about being a winner. Ive heard Pistons fans chant him for really wanting to win but all ive seen is laziness and lack of focus. How many passes has he fucked up from Kurt Thomas because he was just as hungry as Dice is and he did all he could but was traded away. If Dice doesnt step the fuck up now, he could be gone like KT is. And right now, i dont give a fuck about McDyess.

[Johnny RIngo]

Dice was fool's gold. I thought he'd be great with the Spurs too so I can't fault the FO for bringing him in.

RJ was a bad idea though. He's a loser from top to bottom. I think it's hilarious that many of the posters here were championing this trade because of his nice-guy/vanilla attitude(to fit in with the team). And it's too bad the FO and fans dismissed truly talented players like SJax due to emotional baggage(hypocritical since RJ canceled his wedding prior to coming to SA).

[spurs50_]

Does Blair have small hands? He blew multiple dunks against the Jazz and its not the first game I've seen him do that. I don't want to believe the beast has baby hands.

[SouthTexasRancher]

In regards to RJ, the Spurs didn't sign him to that contract. They're paying him now, but there is no way in hell the Spurs would offer RJ more than Manu or Tony. The Spurs needed to improve and hardly gave up much for RJ.

Having said that, RJ and Dice need to go asap


Uhhhh, Amuseddaysleeper, wake up...lol

Where did I say the Spurs signed him to that contract? The Spurs had to take on the contract the bum RJ had already signed with either the Nets or Bucks (not sure when/where it originated from). Not sure you actually read my whole post. Bottom line is it is NOT helping team chemistry when the guys who've been through the fire and gave their blood, sweat and tears for their ring cannot be happy when someone comes in expecting to hopefully get a ring but, is not willing to lay it all on the line. And especially so when the lazy guy makes more than everyone else except Tim.

When RJ gives an interview he sounds like it is no big deal the way the Spurs are playing. He has No sense of urgency in him....No burning desire...No fire in the belly....No desire to win at all cost...No lay it all on the line type mentality. To win a Championship it takes that attitude from everyone on the team from the owner, coaches, players and everyone else in the organization. If RJ and Dice were working for me and this was all I was getting out of them, they'd both be looking for a new job.

Anyway, hope this clears it up a bit. :toast

[SouthTexasRancher]

i dont think bogans is a problem. he's only getting paid less than a million and he has done better than what people's expectations of him were. he actually does have good stretch of games too where he gives alot of effort. i think people are just expecting him to be exactly like bowen which is why some people are disappointed with him.

RJ and Dice on the other hand need to get their heads out of their asses. RJ looks so unmotivated out there. I think he'll just be happy to make the playoffs at this point. I think he lost that killer mentality after missing the playoffs the last two years. Everyone is counting on him to lead us to title 5. Holt, RC, Pop, Tim. Everyone and so far he's been shitting bricks.

Dice looks like he has an overrated reputation about being a winner. Ive heard Pistons fans chant him for really wanting to win but all ive seen is laziness and lack of focus. How many passes has he fucked up from Kurt Thomas because he was just as hungry as Dice is and he did all he could but was traded away. If Dice doesnt step the fuck up now, he could be gone like KT is. And right now, i dont give a fuck about McDyess.


I really don't have much of a problem with Bogans, especially since he is not making much by NBA standards. Some nights he shows signs of a Bruce Bowen and on other nights he seems to be on a different planet...or at least in another arena. I'd still rather have Bruce at this point if it were an either/or proposition.

But, I've just about had it with RJ and Dice. I think many of us got our hopes up too high. Then again it may be because of the cost of our season tickets. Ouch! lol

[SouthTexasRancher]

Dice was fool's gold. I thought he'd be great with the Spurs too so I can't fault the FO for bringing him in.

RJ was a bad idea though. He's a loser from top to bottom. I think it's hilarious that many of the posters here were championing this trade because of his nice-guy/vanilla attitude(to fit in with the team). And it's too bad the FO and fans dismissed truly talented players like SJax due to emotional baggage(hypocritical since RJ canceled his wedding prior to coming to SA).


At least Peter Holt doesn't have to fork over $14+ million dollars for Dice. I'm sure Pop has felt bad about what has happened. Since there is no way we can dump RJ's salary without throwing in a Tony or Manu, let's hope Pop and the coaching staff can figure something out and right the ship.

[Bruno]

This is the kind of loss that shows the true face of some ST posters. And it's isn't pretty at all. :td