Mason Wants Out?

[objective]

I just put this in the speculation thread but will crosspost it here:

Ford had this in his chat today about OKC (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/30864):


Take Nick Collison off their hands for an expiring contract and get one of their first round picks.

Mason + Bonner for Nick Collison + 1st.

Mason & Bonner are both out of town then plus a first. Plus Collison is just the kind of stiff that would be a mistake that Pop, the FO, and a lot of Spurs fans are in love with, plus his contract only runs one more year. Plus this deal gets the Spurs slightly cheaper luxury tax obligations.

[spurs10]

I don't know about losing RMJ. He seems to have shot us out of alot of jams and would leave us lacking at the 3 point line.

[CGD]

I just put this in the speculation thread but will crosspost it here:

Ford had this in his chat today about OKC (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/30864):



Mason + Bonner for Nick Collison + 1st.

Mason & Bonner are both out of town then plus a first. Plus Collison is just the kind of stiff that would be a mistake that Pop, the FO, and a lot of Spurs fans are in love with, plus his contract only runs one more year. Plus this deal gets the Spurs slightly cheaper luxury tax obligations.

Not to be a cynic, but the Spurs may actually want to keep their 1st Rounders this year. We'll mostly likely be picking higher this year than in recent years.

[Mel_13]

Not to be a cynic, but the Spurs may actually want to keep their 1st Rounders this year. We'll mostly likely be picking higher this year than in recent years.

That trade suggests a first rounder coming to the Spurs from OKC as the price for taking on Collison's contract and freeing up cap space for the Thunder.

[Ditty]

Not to be a cynic, but the Spurs may actually want to keep their 1st Rounders this year. We'll mostly likely be picking higher this year than in recent years.

the spurs would have 2 first round picks this year

[objective]

That trade suggests a first rounder coming to the Spurs from OKC as the price for taking on Collison's contract and freeing up cap space for the Thunder.

true.

That would free up RC to burn a first on whichever terribly undersized 25 year old 2-guard that RC swears is the best shooter in America and worthy of drafting even higher!

[jesterbobman]

Put another way, (If this could happen)

If the Ty Thomas trade would take giving up a pick, and this trade would get a pick, effectively

Ty Thomas(EC and the better player, Would be possible to resign) or Collison(1 year left) + 2 picks(20, 22).

What do you do?

[CGD]

the spurs would have 2 first round picks this year

Gotcha, I misread the first time.

[Mel_13]

true.

That would free up RC to burn a first on whichever terribly undersized 25 year old 2-guard that RC swears is the best shooter in America and worthy of drafting even higher!

:lol

Now, now. You know they burned a 2nd rounder on the best shooter in America.

[objective]

:lol

Now, now. You know they burned a 2nd rounder on the best shooter in America.

sorry man, it's just funny. Not so much that RC is declaring they would have taken McClinton if Blair wasn't there, but the whole "He's the best shooter in the draft" stuff when Stephen Curry is in the very same draft. That was giggle time.

[jjktkk]

Just for speculation purposes, if Mason is traded, would the Spurs want a similar player in return, or would the Spurs let Hairston get a shot at filling Mason's role, along with Hill, Finley, etc...?

[jimo2305]

well losin' mason won't make us better over night.. if we get something stupid in return.. im gonna be really pissed.. i seriously wouldn't trade mason at this point

[jimo2305]

I think this thread is about Mason...
Mason never struck me as an unintelligent player, in fact he seems like a very smart guy.
When he arrived...everyone here loved him...tried to find him a nickname,praised his character,etc...

I always thought he was ---Spur material---

this latest development got me to thinking....

what IS going on behind closed doors...what happened with Bowen last season?...

what exactly is going on with team chemistry...

where DOES pop stand with his team---as far as RESPECT?

are the players losing faith?...

if I worked my ass off and Finley started over me to start the season...how would I feel?

Maybe Mason saw the writing on the wall and decided---what's the point? Pop is in control of this ship and pop would rather have the whole ship sink than actually give up control.

Maybe Pop would rather see the whole franchise go down the drain before admitting that maybe HE is the problem.

I once thought Pop was the BEST coach in the league...but he has really sucked this season---and last season.

Maybe Mason knows firsthand just how bad things have become.

thank you!

[Allanon]

Realistically speaking, 20 minutes a night is great for a 30 year old slow, unathletic player who can't defend and who is supposed to be a shooter when he's actually shooting 43%.

I'm not sure what more Roger wants but I think this is his first step out of the NBA.

[angelbelow]

Realistically speaking, 20 minutes a night is great for a 30 year old slow, unathletic player who can't defend and who is supposed to be a shooter when he's actually shooting 43%.

I'm not sure what more Roger wants but I think this is his first step out of the NBA.

Agreed, hes a average to below average playmaker, can sometimes create his own shot and although he plays hard on D, he just isnt very good. But if he believes in himself and believes that he'll get a better opportunity somewhere else then so be it.. i just hope we get something of value back for him.

[JustinJDW]

If this is true then I honestly have to laugh. Exactly how much minutes does Roger expect to get when he doesn't play any defense?

[Spursmania]

Come on guys. Mason didn't ask to be traded. He knew he would be trade bait and saw the writing on the wall. I think he just tried to preempt it. I mean only a few days ago he stated he wanted to stay in SA for his career and try to win a Championship.

Anyone who thinks Mason orchestrated all these trade talks on his own is delusional.

[Obstructed_View]

Come on guys. Mason didn't ask to be traded. He knew he would be trade bait and saw the writing on the wall. I think he just tried to preempt it. I mean only a few days ago he stated he wanted to stay in SA for his career and try to win a Championship.

Anyone who thinks Mason orchestrated all these trade talks on his own is delusional.

I think the win a championship quote was rather old.

[Mhak]

POSTED: Feb. 17 -- 4:39 p.m. ET

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Marc Stein: The Miami Heat (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mia) have indeed expressed interest in San Antonio's Roger Mason (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1721), but the Miami deal that interested the Spurs most is no longer possible.
The Spurs were hoping to tempt Miami into absorbing Mason's $3.8 million expiring contract into a $4.3 million trade exception that would have enabled the teams to complete a deal without San Antonio needing to take back another player. A future second-round pick from the Heat would have completed the transaction.
But the Heat, dealing with their own luxury-tax issues like San Antonio and reluctant to add to their payroll, ultimately declined.
And the trade exception in question -- created through the departure of Marcus Banks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2165) in Miami's Shawn Marion (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=510) trade with Toronto on Feb. 15, 2009 -- expired Monday at midnight.
The Spurs and Mason's agent, Mark Bartelstein, have mutually agreed to pursue trades before Thursday's 3 p.m. trading deadline, but it'll take a new trade construction to get Mason to Miami now if the Heat want to try again.
San Antonio is more than $10 million over the luxury-tax threshold, so the deal proposed Monday to Miami would have cut their tax bill by nearly 40 percent. Miami is roughly $2.8 million over the tax threshold.


-Just got this not sure if its posted.

[slick'81]

te huh no way miami would go for that

[Bruno]

So Spurs just need a Delorean to trade Mason to Miami?

[DAF86]

So does this Mason trade talk mean that the Spurs have officially thrown in the towel?

[CGD]

So does this Mason trade talk mean that the Spurs have officially thrown in the towel?

No. He's the 10th/11th guy of the bench...

[objective]

It just means that the bank is foreclosing on the doghouse. All currant tenants have to be evicted.

Mason, Ian, those guys are out of here.

[DAF86]

No. He's the 10th/11th guy of the bench...

Well, he shouldn't be. Besides his contract could be used to bring another useful player (for ex. T. Thomas).

I think that this trade proposal (Mason for cap space) and the fact that the Spurs are shopping practically everybody makes me think that they're giving up on this season.

[StoneBuddha]

Well, he shouldn't be. Besides his contract could be used to bring another useful player (for ex. T. Thomas).

I think that this trade proposal (Mason for cap space) and the fact that the Spurs are shopping practically everybody makes me think that they're giving up on this season.

Agreed. What a depressing thought.

[DAF86]

Agreed. What a depressing thought.

Very Pop like, to give up on something that isn't lost yet.

[objective]

I think that this trade proposal (Mason for cap space) and the fact that the Spurs are shopping practically everybody makes me think that they're giving up on this season.

If they were really giving up on the season, they'd be playing Hairston and Mahinmi.

[DAF86]

If they were really giving up on the season, they'd be playing Hairston and Mahinmi.

Maybe they will start doing it from now on.

[DesignatedT]

Maybe they will start doing it from now on.

the way we looked against denver, there might be a slight possibility that the FO is going to take its chances with this team. and how inconsistent we have been all season, i dont see this team getting worse as they play more together.

[objective]

Maybe they will start doing it from now on.

*fingers crossed*

[mexicanjunior]

i dont see this team getting worse as they play more together.

I disagree...I think the wear and tear on Duncan having to carry the load for most of the season is going to start the eventual decline in his play. Once he slows down, the team's chances of getting better will follow suit.

[Mel_13]

So Spurs just need a Delorean to trade Mason to Miami?

If they had a DeLorean, they'd go back to June 23rd and stop that call to Milwaukee.

[angelbelow]

Sounds like Mase is gonna get traded for cash.

[LakerHater]

Trade'em for Marc Gasol!

[DesignatedT]

Sounds like Mase is gonna get traded for cash.

unfortunately, this.

[Bandit2981]

The Miami Heat have indeed expressed interest in San Antonio’s Roger Mason, but the Miami deal that interested the Spurs most is no longer possible.

The Spurs were hoping to tempt Miami into absorbing Mason’s $3.8 million expiring contract into a $4.3 million trade exception that would have enabled the teams to complete a deal without San Antonio needing to take back another player. A future second-round pick from the Heat would have completed the transaction.

But the Heat, dealing with their own luxury-tax issues like San Antonio and reluctant to add to their payroll, ultimately declined.

And the trade exception in question -- created through the departure of Marcus Banks in Miami’s Shawn Marion trade with Toronto on Feb. 15, 2009 -- expired Monday at midnight.

The Spurs and Mason’s agent, Mark Bartelstein, have mutually agreed to pursue trades before Thursday’s 3 p.m. trading deadline, but it’ll take a new trade construction to get Mason to Miami now if the Heat want to try again.

San Antonio is more than $10 million over the luxury-tax threshold, so the deal proposed Monday to Miami would have cut its tax bill by nearly 40 percent. Miami is roughly $2.8 million over the tax threshold.



http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/category/_/name/truehoop-trade-reports

[TheSpursFNRule]

Why do NBA Trade rumors say that the grizzlies are in the mix?

[DesignatedT]

yes we know. check the trade threads.

[Baseline]

Gee, there's a move that inspires confidence in the fan base.

[Josepatches_]

If they were really giving up on the season, they'd be playing Hairston and Mahinmi.

Not necessary.Mahinmi or Hairston arent important in the future of our team.

[PDXSpursFan]

Can we ship Bonner & Finley together with Mason? :D

[LakerHater]

Either Gasol or Conley or both!!

[timvp]

According to one source, the Sixers have inquired about San Antonio Spurs guard Roger Mason, as well as Golden State Warriors swingman Anthony Morrow. Neither player was available for the Sixers. In one case, the team wasn't willing to part with the player. In the other, the Sixers couldn't offer enough in return.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Sixers-unlikely-to-deal-as-trade-deadline-nears-63825884

Not sure if that was posted anywhere already.

[Chieflion]

Looks like Jason Kapono was a fail for the Sixers.

[lurker23]

According to one source, the Sixers have inquired about San Antonio Spurs guard Roger Mason, as well as Golden State Warriors swingman Anthony Morrow. Neither player was available for the Sixers. In one case, the team wasn't willing to part with the player. In the other, the Sixers couldn't offer enough in return.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Sixers-unlikely-to-deal-as-trade-deadline-nears-63825884

Not sure if that was posted anywhere already.

Interesting. My guess is that Morrow wasn't available and they couldn't give up enough for Mason. As much as the Spurs were willing to give away Mason for nothing, I think they'd rather keep him than get any old expiring contract.

[Bartleby]

According to one source, the Sixers have inquired about San Antonio Spurs guard Roger Mason, as well as Golden State Warriors swingman Anthony Morrow. Neither player was available for the Sixers. In one case, the team wasn't willing to part with the player. In the other, the Sixers couldn't offer enough in return.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Sixers-unlikely-to-deal-as-trade-deadline-nears-63825884

Not sure if that was posted anywhere already.

When I first read this I assumed it was the Warriors who weren't willing to part with the player, but I'm hoping that it was the Spurs and that they are still trying to use Mason to work a trade that will help them (wishful thinking, I know, but maybe . . .).

[Dex]

According to one source, the Sixers have inquired about San Antonio Spurs guard Roger Mason, as well as Golden State Warriors swingman Anthony Morrow. Neither player was available for the Sixers. In one case, the team wasn't willing to part with the player. In the other, the Sixers couldn't offer enough in return.


I have two coins totaling thirty cents, and one of them is not a nickel. What are they?

[Bartleby]

I have two coins totaling thirty cents, and one of them is not a nickel. What are they?

:lol

[murpjf88]

I have two coins totaling thirty cents, and one of them is not a nickel. What are they?

a quarter and a nickel. One of them is not a nickel, but the other is.

[JR3]

a quarter and a nickel. One of them is not a nickel, but the other is.

Good Job! you must have had a good GMAT score.

[timvp]

The Memphis Grizzlies have about $3.2 million in cap room and are taking with several clubs seeking luxury tax relief. The main targets of the Grizzlies could be the Heat for Dorell Wright or the Jazz for Ronnie Brewer.

According to The Commercial-Appeal, "It is likely that the Grizzlies will pull off a trade at the 11th hour, according to sources with knowledge of the team's dealings. There is, however, confusion within the organization and an element of desperation coming from owner Michael Heisley. The Griz are seriously considering four or five scenarios, according to the sources."

As we noted yesterday, the Grizzlies have shown interest in Roger Mason.

[benefactor]

Still trying according to Wojo.

[ace3g]

Still trying according to Wojo.

WojYahooNBA

Spurs still trying to trade Roger Mason but nothing imminent, source says. As for Richard Jefferson, forget it. They tried. No shot.

[intothechaos]

larry ramirez said sources say that Bonner and Mason are headed to chicago. Just sources but I will be so happy to get Bonner the hell outa here

[Fpoonsie]

larry ramirez said sources say that Bonner and Mason are headed to chicago. Just sources but I will be so happy to get Bonner the hell outa here

...who's Larry Ramirez?

[Spurstro]

I heard something like that on KSAT too, but didn't hear Chicago...I thought I heard Milwaukee though. I just changed the channel to it and missed the first part.

[intothechaos]

KSAT 12 sportscaster. News at noon..

[intothechaos]

he mentioned milwaukee at 1255 and chicago at 1225

[Fpoonsie]

KSAT 12 sportscaster. News at noon..

Ah, thanks.

Sorry, I'm not a local guy.

[Spursmania]

Come on, pull the trigger RC.

[ace3g]

who are they going to get from Chicago now if that is true, they already traded away the pieces the Spurs wanted

[ace3g]

I heard something like that on KSAT too, but didn't hear Chicago...I thought I heard Milwaukee though. I just changed the channel to it and missed the first part.

I wonder if they are trying my idea, can't get Salmons from the Bulls , get him from the Bucks, but I doubt it

[intothechaos]

He didn't mention for who...which was weird. But I'm assuming maybe thomas.... IDK..

[ElNono]

The sad reality is that they're probably shopping him for picks and cash... I don't think they're taking anybody else in...

[stealthjbravo]

George Gomez confirms that Bonner and Mason are headed to Chicago for picks

[RiverwalkParade]

I heard something like that on KSAT too, but didn't hear Chicago...I thought I heard Milwaukee though. I just changed the channel to it and missed the first part.

Bonner/Mason could return Warrick/Pargo/Brown

Not a bad grab. Emergency ball handler, a 3/4, and the homecoming of DB. I'd be for it.

[Duncan2177]

Mason for a washing machine?

[ace3g]

any more news

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

It's like last year all over again. In a couple of weeks we well get the story about how the Spurs were close to getting Camby or Salmons/TT. :(

[intothechaos]

[QUOTE=ace3g;4094321]any more news[/QUOT we'll see if something happens before the Predators counter hits zero..... That's awesome man...

[ace3g]

[QUOTE=ace3g;4094321]any more news[/QUOT we'll see if something happens before the Predators counter hits zero..... That's awesome man...

thanks, I finally decided to add a sig, and right now I went with that since the Predator movie is coming out this summer

[ace3g]

17 minutes

[Kuestmaster]

4,8,15,16

[intothechaos]

according to projectspurs.com they are saying all the potential trades have fell involving the spurs. Say we had a shot at salmons.... Idk

[ace3g]

7 minutes, Spurs better be filing paper work if they have something in the works

[RiverwalkParade]

I am depressed for the rest of the day

[benefactor]

I wonder when Mason will call the E-N to schedule his next whining session?

[stealthjbravo]

yea Gomez fuked that one lol

[ace3g]

yea Gomez fuked that one lol

I wonder if he read the article that the Spurs were trying to trade them to the bulls for Salmons but didn't read any further that the trade didn't go through and Salmons ended up going to the Bucks

[Spurtacus]

Mason not get what he wanted then?

[crc21209]

And so the whiner stays.....

[objective]

he'll get all the time he wants when he has to guard Pau in the first round

[bigdog]

Great. We kept the crybaby.

[Obstructed_View]

Where did this idea come from that Mason whined? If Pop's track record is anything to go by, I can pretty much guarantee that the Spurs would have gotten rid of him at just about any cost if he'd done anything approaching whining.

[panic giraffe]

so will he start playing for a contract now or just phone it in like he has been all season so far?

[The Truth #6]

Mason is a little sensitive perhaps, but he's worked hard, played out of position, tried to improve his game...and got stuck behind Finley and Bogans. He's in a contract year. This is his last "big" contract. A lockout is looming. The smart move is to get traded to where he has a better chance to play. Seems pretty logical. This team isn't doing shit this year and the Spurs clearly don't want him.

[SenorSpur]

Mason is a little sensitive perhaps, but he's worked hard, played out of position, tried to improve his game...and got stuck behind Finley and Bogans. He's in a contract year. This is his last "big" contract. A lockout is looming. The smart move is to get traded to where he has a better chance to play. Seems pretty logical. This team isn't doing shit this year and the Spurs clearly don't want him.

As usual, you speak the truth. :tu

[Spurs Brazil]

Why we didn't trade this SOB

Fuck Mason :flipoff

[timtonymanu]

Mason, go sign with Washington in the offseason and take Bogans with you. Play in your hometown.

[Capt Bringdown]

The big picture about Mason is that he's a wilting flower, incapable of taking advantage of the opportunities that are presented to him.

I can't wait to see him gone.