Spurs and Pop pretty much done.

[Manu_Ginobili]

After the trading deadline passed /the only thing we did in the trading department to improve the roster now was..."NOTHING"/, it was/is obvious the Spurs were not able to pull any trades to bring some players, who could upgrade our current roster. Therefore, with those guys we have right now, I believe, it will be impossible to pass the 1st round in the Playoffs; there is no way the Spurs would win our Division either - Dallas secured that 1st spot already by bringing Butler and Haywood - last night they held Orlando to 85 pts, pretty impressive!!! So, I bet f. Cuban is happy...

The Spurs will probably finish between the 5th and the 7th spot in the final Playoff standings, which will send them either to Denver, Utah or Dallas in the 1st round; Taking into account Utah beat us 4:0 this year, it will be very difficult to pass through them, Denver also defeated us 2 times at the ATT center, needless the say Dallas has "our number" as well, so fasten your seat-belts Spurs fans, and prepare for (1) an early Playoff exit, (2) an entire NEW roster next year, and (3) HOPEFULLY, a NEW COACH next year - Avery Johnson. Pop is simply done as well - time to retire, Pop!!! Thanks for all you have done, but you have to go, buddy!!!

:bang:downspin::bang:downspin::ihit:greedy

[TJastal]

The way it looks right now the spurs will be lucky to snag the 8th seed which will mean a 1st round playoff matchup with LA

Houston may save us the embarrasment of a 1st round shellacking though by moving past the spurs for the 8th seed.

[Big P]

aj can suck it...he will not be coach..he wore out his welcome already..

[TJastal]

I could totally see Manu heading off to CHA to play under Larry Brown, they defenitely could use some depth behind Jackson at SG

That would be a scary, scary team w/ Ginobili's passing and all those finishers

[8FOR!3]

Hey I liked Avery Johnson as a player and all, but in 2006 he had a team with 15 losses at the end of the season and he couldn't figure out how to win a championship with that team. If Pop isn't our coach next year, we won't make the playoffs. That's a guarantee.

[trypldubl]

I don't think Tim would like to hear Avery yapping in his ear all the time. Avery is a good coach, but he is that Scott Skiles type of coach.

[poop]

Pop needs to be replaced, but he wont be. ever.

[dbestpro]

As they always say in sports, its easier to replace the coach than the players. This is the next logical step. Pop has lost the players. When that happens you are done.

[Mr. Body]

Lawrence Frank. Hell, I don't know.

[Manudo Flopo]

Desperate bitches...

Just Die Already!

[Manudona]

Wasn't this pretty much the same reaction from the fans in '07 when Pop did not make any changes in the roster and we all know how bad of a move it turn out to be, with the Spurs only wining the championship?

[dbestpro]

I've been a fan since the 70s. I knew there was a time when Stan Albeck had to go. He was to offense the way Pop is to defense. There came a time when he lost the team and he had to go. Same thing happened with Larry Brown. Pop is not so much a better coach than any of these guys than he was fortunate. Now, when the team needs him to be his most brilliant he instead has become a mad scientist to the detriment of the team. There is no shame in this. Its just his time to go. If he truly cares about Timmy and the players he will get out of the way. Of course, I'd rather have the old Pop back, but he's not here. I don't know that he will ever be found.

[intothechaos]

so bobcats beat cleveland..... Ratliff played 18 min, scored 5 pts and had 2 blocks. Before any dumbasses say he's old and it's just 2 blocks, But how many shots did he alter and intimidate? That's what the big picture should be about. So Pop go fuck yourself cause you aint worth a shit anymore.

[ChumpDumper]

Before any dumbasses say he's old and it's just 2 blocks, But how many shots did he alter and intimidate?I didn't watch. How many?

[eyeh8u]

dont worry bosh is coming next year

[it's me]

.... I finally got to understand what Pop is doing...........Dude wants to play the Fakers in the first round....... he isn't showing all his tricks until the POs .... that's the only explanation for his "I wanna lose" lineups.....

[intothechaos]

dont worry bosh is coming next year

that just made my day.......

[jjktkk]

IMO I don't see a coach doing much better with this group. This team needs a talent infusion. The Spurs look old and slow.

[ChumpDumper]

IMO I don't see a coach doing much better with this group. This team needs a talent infusion. The Spurs look old and slow.Well, there could be less small ball and more production from Jefferson, but yeah -- he's not going to make Tim and Manu less old or Tony less injured.

[lotr1trekkie]

As a starter Tim has needed another big since Manu got hurt. Dallas buried us with the Butler/ Haywood deal. That should of been us! At this point I'd rest Parker until he feels 100%. Time to rebuild. Don't wear out Manu and Timmy trying to get to second round. This season is done.

[Obstructed_View]

The Spurs have had centers sitting on their bench all year and haven't been played. I don't know why anyone thinks someone with that philosophy is going to trade for another center.

[spurs10]

The Spurs have had centers sitting on their bench all year and haven't been played. I don't know why anyone thinks someone with that philosophy is going to trade for another center.
Sad, but true.

[dbestpro]

Remember, if Pop goes, it is not the Pop who won four champuonships. It is the Pop who along with small ball ran the team into the dirt. We all would love to have the old Pop back, but that is very unlikely.

[intothechaos]

As a starter Tim has needed another big since Manu got hurt. Dallas buried us with the Butler/ Haywood deal. That should of been us! At this point I'd rest Parker until he feels 100%. Time to rebuild. Don't wear out Manu and Timmy trying to get to second round. This season is done.

you my friend are right,the season is done. It doesn't matter how many times we bitch about the fuckhead coach that we got,he never browses the forum. It just the way it's gonna be. What I don't like is that Popshole knows we can't make it through the whole playoffs and endure what we face. He thinks the big 3 aren't gonna get tire carrying the sorry excuse for role players we have. That's what angers me. He can say lets compete to the best of our abilities but he is not seeing what lies ahead. The Celts,lakers,mavs,nuggets etc. In a 7 game series the Spurs simply cannot overcome these road blocks.

[jjktkk]

Well, there could be less small ball and more production from Jefferson, but yeah -- he's not going to make Tim and Manu less old or Tony less injured.

Good point. But with the lack of a true starting caliber 4, or 5, to put alongside Duncan, IMO they would struggle with a traditional lineup as well. McDyess, Bonner, and Blair, are quality role players, but not starting material. I think thats whats really wrong with this team, besides the overall lack of size/athleticism. A true Center 6'10" or better, starting caliber, would really help the overall defense IMO. Pop definitely gets the share of blame for helping assemble this roster, but with this current Spurs roster, Pop really can't get moch more out of this group.

[dbestpro]

I think Spur fans would be more graceful with the Spurs failure this year if we went down swinging. To fade away due to small and inferior rotations has been hard to bare.

[GhosTown]

They should fire Pop immediately. This guy is going to cost San Antonio the playoffs this year. The Spurs are one TD injury away from making the playoffs. If TD catches the flu for 7 days. They will go from 6th place to 10th by the time he comes back.

Only a new kinda fool starts his weakest players, gets behind by double digits, then tries to make a come back with old banged up players.

Visualizing that last statement just made me fall out of my chair laughing. But hey that's what Pop does.

You know it is bad, when a player like Mason, who has absolutely no trade value, virtually begs to be traded.

Do the Spurs even practice anymore? They should just save their energy. Even if you have a good practice you will still start the game on the bench.

[dbestpro]

News flash. The Spurs are not going to make the playoffs with or without TD.

[rascal]

Lawrence Frank. Hell, I don't know.

Jeff Van Gundy wants to get back to coaching.

[objective]

Pop should stay.

This team doesn't have the talent to win a title in today's NBA, not with how lazy Jefferson has been and how finished McDyess has looked. Even adding Splitter, the rest of the league is too good to win.

Even if Pop had his best coaching year, I think they'd be better, I think they'd win a playoff series or two . . . but Pop at his best can only win so much. He wasn't coaching underdog teams to series wins too often before. Even Phil Jackson couldn't get a title from the current squad with their health issues. Much better than Pop, but no title.

Besides, firing him would cost too much money, and we all know that Holt can't afford to be paying two coaches full salaries like other teams do.

The only way a coaching change will happen is when Pop gets tired of grinding away with a borderline playoff team and steps down to go play with wine festivals.

[Obstructed_View]

Remember, if Pop goes, it is not the Pop who won four champuonships. It is the Pop who along with small ball ran the team into the dirt. We all would love to have the old Pop back, but that is very unlikely.

The Pop who won at least three of the four championships had players that weren't afraid to tell him how things needed to be done.

[Capt Bringdown]

A great coach can duplicate his success. It remains to be seen if Pop can be a successful coach in other situations.

Until Pop can duplicate his success here in SA in another NBA franchise or other basketball setting, I think he's comparable to a guy like Rudy T.

Nice guy, nice coach, but by no means "great."

[Rogue]

After the trading deadline passed /the only thing we did in the trading department to improve the roster now was..."NOTHING"/, it was/is obvious the Spurs were not able to pull any trades to bring some players, who could upgrade our current roster. Therefore, with those guys we have right now, I believe, it will be impossible to pass the 1st round in the Playoffs; there is no way the Spurs would win our Division either - Dallas secured that 1st spot already by bringing Butler and Haywood - last night they held Orlando to 85 pts, pretty impressive!!! So, I bet f. Cuban is happy...

The Spurs will probably finish between the 5th and the 7th spot in the final Playoff standings, which will send them either to Denver, Utah or Dallas in the 1st round; Taking into account Utah beat us 4:0 this year, it will be very difficult to pass through them, Denver also defeated us 2 times at the ATT center, needless the say Dallas has "our number" as well, so fasten your seat-belts Spurs fans, and prepare for (1) an early Playoff exit, (2) an entire NEW roster next year, and (3) HOPEFULLY, a NEW COACH next year - Avery Johnson. Pop is simply done as well - time to retire, Pop!!! Thanks for all you have done, but you have to go, buddy!!!

:bang:downspin::bang:downspin::ihit:greedy
you're done before anyone else, you bald cream.

[mystargtr34]

I cant believe i miss Nazr Mohammad and Rasho Nesterovic.

[Manu_Ginobili]

They should fire Pop immediately. This guy is going to cost San Antonio the playoffs this year. The Spurs are one TD injury away from making the playoffs. If TD catches the flu for 7 days. They will go from 6th place to 10th by the time he comes back.

Only a new kinda fool starts his weakest players, gets behind by double digits, then tries to make a come back with old banged up players.

Visualizing that last statement just made me fall out of my chair laughing. But hey that's what Pop does.

You know it is bad, when a player like Mason, who has absolutely no trade value, virtually begs to be traded.

Do the Spurs even practice anymore? They should just save their energy. Even if you have a good practice you will still start the game on the bench.

I could not agree more, unFortunately, lots of posters here cannot/could not take their "Pop's glasses" OFF and see the reality - and the reality is WE HAVE NO TEAM right now to win a title, PERIOD, we (even) have NO team to pass the 1st round in the Playoffs, as you say, if Timmy gets injured, we WILL NOT even make the Playoffs; And after spending so much money [the 1st time in Spurs history!!!], someone has to take the responsibility [as Pop said himself!!!]mfor mismanaging the team, playing time, plays, etc., eveything, and this one is the Coach...HE SIMPLY LOST IT! NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!! Time to go, Pop!, Time to go, buddy...

[Manu_Ginobili]

you're done before anyone else, you bald cream.

Typically, when someone does not have anything to say, he uses non-sense language - take OFF your "Pop's Glasses" and see the reality, this is what I have to say to you...

[Manu_Ginobili]

so bobcats beat cleveland..... Ratliff played 18 min, scored 5 pts and had 2 blocks. Before any dumbasses say he's old and it's just 2 blocks, But how many shots did he alter and intimidate? That's what the big picture should be about. So Pop go fuck yourself cause you aint worth a shit anymore.

Agree 100%! I did not understand WHY Pop did not play Ratliff - he is NOT used up - Now, Pop has NO shot blocker besides Timmy - pretty f dumb, if you ask me...

[Manu_Ginobili]

Wasn't this pretty much the same reaction from the fans in '07 when Pop did not make any changes in the roster and we all know how bad of a move it turn out to be, with the Spurs only wining the championship?

you've gotta be dreaming this time around...

[Manu_Ginobili]

Pop needs to be replaced, but he wont be. ever.

let see, I am NOT sure about that...

[Manu_Ginobili]

we should start calling him poop instead of pop....

hahahaha, agree

[Manu_Ginobili]

Remember, if Pop goes, it is not the Pop who won four champuonships. It is the Pop who along with small ball ran the team into the dirt. We all would love to have the old Pop back, but that is very unlikely.

AGREE 1000%...POP LOST IT, he even admitted it himself - he said "he is trying hard with that group, BUT IT IS NOT HAPPENING..."

[The Truth #6]

At this point I just want pop to rest the big 3 within reason and play the young players. And see what happens.

[elbamba]

The starting lineup today makes me think that Pop is giving spurs fans the finger. There is no one, noone that could believe that this is the best linup (defensive/offensive) that the Spurs could put out there.

Maybe Pop is just sick of his job. I really cannot understand what he is doing. I had the same problem last year. Pop's problem, which has always been his problem is pride.

[skinsfan1]

I hate the way the season has gone. it's pretty much over

[Manu_Ginobili]

I hate the way the season has gone. it's pretty much over

agree

[FeZZy]

:lmao cool

[Obstructed_View]

Season's not over yet. If the insanity continues much longer, it will be.

[Spurgio]

Anyone know why Blair only played 13 minutes ? I was looking at the box score and the pistons killed us on the boards.


And according to pop, he won't be here next year. He said it himself " If we don't win it all, I should be fired ". I'm still waiting for someone to call him out on it.

[Sean Cagney]

Desperate bitches...

Just Die Already!

LOL like your team is going to win it this year hahahah, okay. Your old too and done pretty much, no more titles with that team there.

[hsxvvd]

we should start calling him poop instead of pop....

And I was going to contribute to this thread.

[Sean Cagney]

Anyone know why Blair only played 13 minutes ? I was looking at the box score and the pistons killed us on the boards.


And according to pop, he won't be here next year. He said it himself " If we don't win it all, I should be fired ". I'm still waiting for someone to call him out on it.

Goodbye man, get out of here please then.... He didn't even win a top 5 spot with this talent, I know it's not over yet but it's clear Dallas won the division and we are not a top 5 team in the West even! PERIOD.

[admiralsnackbar]

The Pop who won at least three of the four championships had players that weren't afraid to tell him how things needed to be done.

Spoken as if you had any more insight than the rest of us.

[Manu_Ginobili]

Spoken as if you had any more insight than the rest of us.

he doesn't, but he is frustrated with Pop and the team...

[Obstructed_View]

Spoken as if you had any more insight than the rest of us.

Nope, just more common sense than some of you.

[admiralsnackbar]

Nope, just more common sense than some of you.

I say this with respect, but c'mon, dude -- pulling an assertion out of thin air and presenting it as fact has nothing to do with common sense.

We're sucking and I'm as pissed about it as you are, but let's at least remain in the sphere of the verifiable, or at least the plausible.

[Obstructed_View]

I say this with respect, but c'mon, dude -- pulling an assertion out of thin air and presenting it as fact has nothing to do with common sense.

We're sucking and I'm as pissed about it as you are, but let's at least remain in the sphere of the verifiable, or at least the plausible.

It's much more plausible that Pop's descent into madness has coincided with the loss of veteran players with leadership qualities and the loss of assistant coaches with the ability to challenge the head coach on his philosophies and game plans than the fact that he's literally gone insane or that he's suddenly become frightfully stupid. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely and nothing happens all at once.

There are a number of common sense assertions one can make about why this continues to go on, and all they have to do is look at the players and coaches that have come through the organization and the results.

[hater]

well they still got a shot at WC Finals if North Korea takes out California and Colorado

[DaBears]

Wasn't this pretty much the same reaction from the fans in '07 when Pop did not make any changes in the roster and we all know how bad of a move it turn out to be, with the Spurs only wining the championship?


If you think this roster of babies is anyhow shape or form, in comparrison to that squad of '07, you are in for a hugh, i mean montumental let down come playoff's when the Spurs i either get bounced out in the first round or even make it that far.. Judging by thier current status they should fall out of the playoff race in the next 10-15 games.....

That roster in 07 had something called "HEART"... And just flat out wanted it.... This team has had a hard enough time beatting the scrubs of the NBA let alone the big boys......This roster of smalls will not get it done, trust me.....