View Full Version : Should Melo' be suspended a game?
SpursFanDan
05-01-2005, 03:58 AM
You know what play i'm talking about.. the left elbow was unecessary.
Ginofan
05-01-2005, 04:04 AM
Sure suspend him, Denver deserves it....what a classless piece of trash that team is!
timvp
05-01-2005, 04:04 AM
Just saw the replay. It was a cheap shot but he won't be suspended.
Kori Ellis
05-01-2005, 04:05 AM
I don't think he should be suspended.
shouldnt tim duncan be suspended for being so gad dammed boring
picnroll
05-01-2005, 04:07 AM
I think Buckner's shot was cheaper. He was clearly heading hunting on that foul.
picnroll
05-01-2005, 04:09 AM
A Magic fan? wtf.
SpursFanDan
05-01-2005, 04:12 AM
Every one is knocking Timmy, but with less than a minute to go, and up three, in the midst of the nuggets come back, tim hit a bank shot to go up five and we didnt look back. boring?....maybe alittle but early foul trouble prevents a player to get into any kind of rythym
j_epsilon
05-01-2005, 04:12 AM
Sure suspend him, Denver deserves it....what a classless piece of trash that team is!
HELL FUCKING YES!! finally someone sees the light... those guys are fucking cheap piece of shit...
i didnt say he wasnt a good player he is just so boring, i want to see him grow an afro :fro
SpursFanDan
05-01-2005, 04:21 AM
I'll take boring over self absorbed/cocky any day
Gerryatrics
05-01-2005, 04:21 AM
No, I don't think he should be suspended.
Ginofan
05-01-2005, 04:22 AM
HELL FUCKING YES!! finally someone sees the light... those guys are fucking cheap piece of shit...
lol i just got done watching my DVR so I was feeling the adrenaline a bit...he won't get suspended but it would be pretty damn funny if he was. All these damn Nugg fans are whinin' and cryin' about Manu...it's sooooo hillarious!
i like tim duncans attitude but he should play with more emotion on court :elephant and stop picking on me :depressed
GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
05-01-2005, 04:33 AM
I dont think he will be suspended, mainly because of manu's post game quotes. I think if manu woulda came out and said it was a dirty play, carmello might of been suspended.
nickbroken
05-01-2005, 04:37 AM
No I don't want him suspended I want him on the court crying when Bowen slaps him around some more and he sucks it up, he is such an overrated piece of shit and the biggest cry baby around the playoffs these days.
Go-spurs-Go
05-01-2005, 04:42 AM
That is a very cheap shot by Melo. Classless! I hope he will be suspended. But, I don't think he will. No matter what happens, the Spurs will take Game 4 anyway.
pooh0406
05-01-2005, 04:47 AM
nah... it's better if he won't be suspended... players love a challenge...
vincerodriguez23
05-01-2005, 04:51 AM
he'll be fined but not suspended
Obstructed_View
05-01-2005, 05:43 AM
I don't think he'll even get fined. Karl made it sound like his players were the victims and Ginobili was doing something wrong or dirty. If it were up to me Anthony would be fined and Buckner and Martin would be suspended. All three of them converged on him. Buckner already has a flagrant 1 and should have been given a technical for that elbow he threw.
The problem with bush league teams like the Nuggets and the Mavericks is they can't separate physical from dirty. They think cheap shots make you physical, but they just make you cheap.
Aggie Hoopsfan
05-01-2005, 11:54 AM
If you get a flagrant type 2 ejection, you've got a fine coming.
I'd suspend him. And it's not because i'm a Spurs fan. When you take 'Melo's play, and couple it with Karl's pussy ass comments, you've got to send a message to Denver that you're not going to tolerate that shit in game 4.
FromWayDowntown
05-01-2005, 12:03 PM
I think, whether Melo is suspended or not, the Nuggets are going to amp up their physical play on Monday night. They did that last year against Minnesota; when the T'Wolves countered with their mouths, Game 4 became a near brawl. I recall, in 1999, that the T'Wolves pulled a bunch of that crap either at the end of Game 3 or in Game 4. It's what you'd expect from a young team that is now fighting for its life.
As for Melo, I'd rather he not be suspended. I'm glad that Manu took the high road on this issue, though -- not that it would ever happen, but I got to wondering last night what the reaction would have been had the situation been reversed. I'm skeptical about the Spurs getting the same pass.
CosmicCowboy
05-01-2005, 12:07 PM
If a Spur player had thrown a stupid cheap ass flagrant 2 frustration foul in a game that was apparently already lost he wouldn't have to worry whether or not he was gonna get suspended...he would have been sitting on a pillow on the bench the next game recovering from Popovich's ass chewing...
T Park
05-01-2005, 12:10 PM
it was game 3, Joe Smith on David Robinson.
What was great David went right back at the puke.
Garnett tried to get in there to mouth off and Duncan shoved his ass out of it, enfuriating Garnett even more.
T Park
05-01-2005, 12:11 PM
Yes, shoving a player from behind going to the basket??
Should be suspended.
But he wont, the Nuggets and Anthony are NBA's darlings, so the fuckface will be there monday night.
LilMissSPURfect
05-01-2005, 12:16 PM
He should , along with buckner and kfart!
Obstructed_View
05-01-2005, 02:04 PM
it was game 3, Joe Smith on David Robinson.
What was great David went right back at the puke.
Garnett tried to get in there to mouth off and Duncan shoved his ass out of it, enfuriating Garnett even more.
Yeah, Flip Saunders never understood physical basketball, and the officials were allowing Smith to do that cheap shit to Robinson, and he finally lost his temper.
The officials have done a poor job of controlling basketball games this year, and you'd think they'd have learned something from the brawl in Detroit. They called that game last night like they were afraid of the crowd, and the crowd, the players, and the coaches just got more rabid. The blowout loss in Dallas was that way, too. The officials allowed the Mavs to commit dirty fouls while the crowd chanted for more blood.
CHAMPS AGAIN
05-01-2005, 02:12 PM
shouldnt tim duncan be suspended for being so gad dammed boring
no crying in basketball :idiot :idiot :idiot
tw05baller
05-01-2005, 08:44 PM
is the nba gonna suspend him or anything?
I know it's a mandatory fine at least, and it might be a suspension as well. I THINK it's on the point system, where you have to add up to a type III foul to get suspended. If he has a type I to go with this (type II), he should be watching from the bench next game. That's assuming that A) I'm correct, and B) the NBA doesn't suspend him anyway
Brodels
05-01-2005, 08:49 PM
I suspect that the suits will discuss when they get back in the office tomorrow.
I personally think he should, and I usually think of myself as somewhat fair and objective. I watched it over and over again today, and it was unacceptable for him to extend his arms to Manu's neck and throw him down. If the NBA allows that to go on unpunished, they are opening the door for some serious and unneccesary injuries to star players.
IceColdBrewski
05-01-2005, 08:55 PM
Basically sounds like it's up to the commissioner.
C. FOULS: FLAGRANT/UNSPORTSMANLIKE
To be unsportsmanlike is to act in a manner unbecoming to the image of professional basketball. It consists of acts of deceit, disrespect for officials and profanity. The penalty for such action is a technical foul. Repeated acts shall result in expulsion from the game and a minimum fine of $250. A flagrant foul penalty (1) is unnecessary contact committed by a player against an opponent. A flagrant foul penalty (2) is unnecessary and excessive contact committed by a player against an opponent. It is an unsportsmanlike act and the offender is ejected immediately. The offender will be subject to a fine not exceeding $20,000 and/or suspension by the Commissioner. See Rule 12B-Section IV-b (1) for interpretation and penalties.
Obstructed_View
05-01-2005, 09:06 PM
The league office also can reclassify a foul as flagrant after the fact. Don't be surprised to see them do nothing, but they could give Martin and Buckner a flagrant for that same play, and that adds to Buckner's points since he already has a flagrant earlier in the series. The league can also look at the elbow that Buckner threw. If they want to send a message they'll probably make a case and suspend Buckner so they can avoid having to suspend Anthony.
I doubt the outcry will be that great in support of the Spurs anyway, so the league will let it go.
Solid D
05-01-2005, 09:08 PM
Melo apparently isn't sorry he did it, based on his comments today.
ALVAREZ6
05-01-2005, 09:11 PM
Every Nugget on the team should be suspended for being complete whiny ass manginas besides Earl Boykins...
Obstructed_View
05-01-2005, 09:14 PM
Why would he be? He thinks he got jobbed by the officials. You've seen the Nuggettes fans on here crying about the calls in the game, and you heard the coach, who put him up to the foul in the first place. It's too much of a coincidence that three people would mug Ginobili when the game's out of reach. He's a loser playing with loser teammates for a loser coach in front of a bunch of loser fans. They deserve to be fishing by Wednesday.
Obstructed_View
05-01-2005, 09:17 PM
Every Nugget on the team should be suspended for being complete whiny ass manginas besides Earl Boykins...
Boykins argued every whistle against him last night, including when he tripped over his own feet and fell knocking the ball out of bounds.
ALVAREZ6
05-01-2005, 09:18 PM
He's a loser playing with loser teammates for a loser coach in front of a bunch of loser fans.
Very true :lol
ALVAREZ6
05-01-2005, 09:18 PM
Boykins argued every whistle against him last night, including when he tripped over his own feet and fell knocking the ball out of bounds.
Yeah but he isn't the same class bitch that K-fuck and melo are.
Plus, Earl is only 5'5" and weighs 130 pounds...he couldn't physically injure our players even if he tried.
Obstructed_View
05-01-2005, 09:23 PM
LOL. Very true on both points. :)
warri0r
05-01-2005, 11:34 PM
I think Buckner's shot was cheaper. He was clearly heading hunting on that foul.
What ? :lol if your talking about the time he swung his elbows.. he didn't even hit him, manu just flopped out of nowhere...
unless you were talking about the elbow from manu that knocked buckner to the ground in game 1, yes that was alot cheaper :lol
Aggie Hoopsfan
05-01-2005, 11:36 PM
No dumbass, he's talking about the last play (when 'Melo got tossed) when Buckner cracked Manu right on the nose.
You Nuggets fans are a stubborn lot.
T Park
05-01-2005, 11:40 PM
no were talking about the damn punch that Anthony threw last night.
Go away troll.
HB22inSA
05-01-2005, 11:43 PM
No.
Obstructed_View
05-01-2005, 11:44 PM
What ? :lol if your talking about the time he swung his elbows.. he didn't even hit him, manu just flopped out of nowhere...
unless you were talking about the elbow from manu that knocked buckner to the ground in game 1, yes that was alot cheaper :lol
First off, why are you on a Spurs message board? Are you trying to wash the loser off you?
So since you're here, let's try to educate you on history rather than fiction. Buckner threw an elbow into Ginobili so Ginobili crowded him. Buckner's elbow, even though it missed, should have been an automatic technical, but it was ruled no call because the ref knew that Ginobili baited Buckner into it by the fact that it didn't connect.
And if you honestly think that Ginobili was able to intentionally hit a guy that is behind him in the jaw with his elbow while running flat out then you are more delusional than the average Nuggette know nothing.
Buckner threw an elbow at another player's head - if it had landed it could easily have broken Manu's cheekbone or eye socket. The fact that Manu was quick enough to duck out of the way is immaterial. The league is supposed to have a zero tolerance policy, and Buckner should have drawn an automatic 1-game suspension. The official was irresponsible for failing to take control of the situation.
Carmello waited until Manu was in the air and defenseless, and hit him with a forearm to the back of the head. There was ONLY one purpose for that move, and it was to try to hurt another player. It went beyond a hard foul, it was an assault.
A couple of years ago, Kevin Willis hit another player with an elbow in a playoff game. He was suspended for a game - even in the playoffs. I like Willis, and I am a Spurs fan, but I agreed with the league on that suspension. This year, after the debacle between Indiana and Detroit, the league was supposed to have gotten the message that they need to take control when these things happen, so that they don't escalate. By failing to suspend either Buckner or Anthony, the league (Stern) is encouraging it to happen again.
If either Buckner or Anthony had been successful with their attacks, they could have taken an all-star player out of the game, and possibly out of the playoffs. No suspension could compensate the Spurs for the loss of a player of Ginobili's caliber. But the league is saying that they won't take this kind of behavior seriously until someone is seriously injured.
Stern would turn it into a gladiator sport, if he thought it would raise ratings and revenues from Nike. Come to think of it - he basically has. If there is one big reason why U.S. teams are losing their dominance in international competition, it is because basketball skills are being replaced by combat skills.
samikeyp
05-02-2005, 12:07 AM
Massenburg should be suspended....
for when he knocks Melo's ass into the front row Monday night. :)
texbumTHElife
05-02-2005, 12:08 AM
I had a lot of respect for Denver as a team and for most of the players before this series started and very much just had a "may the best team win" attitude. However, after watching Denver for three straight games I am disgusted by this team. This team epitomizes what the NBA is tryingt o steer its image away from. A team full of wannabe thugs who are more worried about intimidating and punishing than playing basketball.
Then when they cant win with their own brand of basketball they bitch and moan about the other team and players.
So, since about halfway through game two the only thing I have yelled while watching games is "fuck the Nuggets." If this series gopes to 7 games I will be there wearing a shirt that says just that.
dcole50
05-02-2005, 12:16 AM
i'd laugh my ass off if he was suspended, but he doesn't deserve it.
carolgino
05-02-2005, 12:19 AM
based on his and Carl's commets,i think he should be suspended.
but to be the NBA's darlings......
who knows?
i hate the guys who are always blaming the officials when they lost the games.
slayermin
05-02-2005, 12:27 AM
Barkley called the foul on Manu dirty.
picnroll
05-02-2005, 12:31 AM
Refs are going to be watching the Nuggets like a hawk after the hits on Manu. That's a good thing. No free cheap shots on Manu or Parker.
Obstructed_View
05-02-2005, 01:01 AM
i'd laugh my ass off if he was suspended, but he doesn't deserve it.
Kevin Willis got suspended for throwing an elbow. Seems like someone should be punished by the league in the year of "the brawl". Maybe Larry Brown was right and they really don't want to control it as long as it sells tickets and gets ratings.
mookie2001
05-02-2005, 01:23 AM
robinson did get suspended for cautiously stepping one foot onto the court when he thought a teamate could be hurt
suspend his ass
spurs_naby20
05-02-2005, 01:56 AM
i don't think so but he deserves to be ejected..
he almost damaged manu's nose
kenyon should be suspended... he's so boastful!
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