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Nbadan
04-01-2010, 01:15 AM
Rachael Maddow takes a look



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Among the wing-nut organizations that Koch Industries support financially..


1) Cato Institute $8,450,000
2) Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $6,025,375
3) George Mason University $2,311,149
4) George Mason University Foundation, Inc. $2,074,893
6) Heritage Foundation, The $1,004,000
7) Institute for Justice $1,000,000
8) Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment $810,000
9) Reason Foundation, The $642,000
10) Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies, The $504,000
12) Institute for Humane Studies $455,000
13) Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy $385,000
14) Washington Legal Foundation $350,000
15) Capital Research Center $340,000
16) Competitive Enterprise Institute $254,460
20) Ethics and Public Policy Center, Inc. $190,000
22) National Center for Policy Analysis $175,000
23) Citizens for Congressional Reform Foundation $175,000
24) Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, Inc. $125,000
25) American Legislative Exchange Council $120,000
26) Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty $115,000
28) Political Economy Research Center, Inc. $80,000
29) Media Institute $60,000
30) National Foundation for Teaching Entrepreneurship $60,000
31) University of Chicago $59,000
32) Defenders of Property Rights $55,000
33) University of Kansas Endowment Assocation $50,000
36) Texas Public Policy Foundation $44,500
37) Center for Individual Rights, The $40,000
38) Heartland Institute $40,000
39) Texas Justice Foundation $40,000
40) Institute for Policy Innovation $35,000
42) Center of the American Experiment $31,500
43) Atlas Economic Research Foundation $28,500
44) Young America's Foundation $25,000
45) Henry Hazlitt Foundation $25,000
47) Atlantic Legal Foundation $20,000
48) National Taxpayers Union Foundation $20,000
49) Families Against Mandatory Minimums $20,000
50) Philanthropy Roundtable $19,200
51) Free Enterprise Institute $15,000
52) John Locke Foundation $15,000
53) Hudson Institute, Inc. $12,650
54) Alexis de Tocqueville Institution $12,500
55) National Environmental Policy Institute $12,500
56) Washington University $11,500
57) Pacific Legal Foundation $10,000
58) American Council for Capital Formation $10,000
60) Institute for Political Economy $8,000
62) State Policy Network $6,500
64) Fraser Institute, The $5,000
65) Mackinac Center, The $5,000
66) Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation $5,000
68) Institute for Objectivist Studies $5,000

Link (http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipientsoffunder.php?funderID=9)

SnakeBoy
04-01-2010, 01:24 AM
It's not even summer yet. Wait your turn!

Winehole23
04-01-2010, 03:22 AM
I wasn't aware the TPPF was a climate change denier. They focus on criminal justice.

How many of the other "wingnut" orgs focus specifically on climate change, Dan? That's a rather long list you posted. I hope you have examples for all the wingnuts you posted.

Or are we just supposed to take your word for it? :lol

boutons_deux
04-01-2010, 03:41 AM
"How many of the other "wingnut" orgs focus specifically on climate change"

loaded, leading question. The list of supporters doesn't mean the supporter "focuses specifically on climate change", just that VRWC player/oil-industries Koch gave the org money.

Many orgs are desperate for money, esp now that the Banksters' Great Depression has severely crimped donations. The hurting orgs will whore for it. Just another way how the VRWC operates.

Winehole23
04-01-2010, 03:44 AM
Vrwc?

Winehole23
04-01-2010, 04:26 AM
OIC. Vast right wing conspiracy.

admiralsnackbar
04-01-2010, 07:06 AM
Many orgs are desperate for money, esp now that the Banksters' Great Depression has severely crimped donations. The hurting orgs will whore for it. Just another way how the VRWC operates.

While I think you make a credible argument, it doesn't seem as though there's been an escalation in GW denial since the crash(es). Rather than refuting your point, the lesson may be that plenty of non-profits are happy to whore themselves out in good as much as bad times, regardless of political affiliation.

coyotes_geek
04-01-2010, 07:32 AM
Nothing to see here. There's plenty of money being thrown around on both sides of the issue.

DarrinS
04-01-2010, 07:47 AM
It's weird how all that money changed the temperature trend of the last decade.

TeyshaBlue
04-01-2010, 08:58 AM
OIC. Vast right wing conspiracy.

Tin-foil hat required.

boutons_deux
04-01-2010, 09:08 AM
Tin-foil hat?

nah, the players are very well known, very public, even if, eg, Koch tries to be invisible.

I didn't believe with Hillary said VRWC back in the 90s, but Meillon Scaife, etc were already attacking the Clintons and she knew it.

The entire philosophy of the Repugs for 35+ Movement Conservative years is to destroy any Dem presidency, no matter how badly that fucks up the country, so the Repugs can their filthy hands back on the levers of the federal money machine.

DarrinS
04-01-2010, 09:25 AM
Did any of these hired gun deniers conspire to hide data and violate freedom of information laws?


Meh, I won't attack the character of global warmists. It's much easier to attack their weak-sauce "science". I'll leave the character assassination to the left.


Carry on with your thread-sharting, boutons.

TeyshaBlue
04-01-2010, 09:29 AM
Tin-foil hat?

nah, the players are very well known, very public, even if, eg, Koch tries to be invisible.

I didn't believe with Hillary said VRWC back in the 90s, but Meillon Scaife, etc were already attacking the Clintons and she knew it.

The entire philosophy of the Repugs for 35+ Movement Conservative years is to destroy any Dem presidency, no matter how badly that fucks up the country, so the Repugs can their filthy hands back on the levers of the federal money machine.

You're right. Nix the tin foil hat.

Straw hat is more appropriate.

DarrinS
04-01-2010, 09:30 AM
Actually, nobody denies climate change. The issue is whether climate change of the last 100 years or so is unusual or unprecedented.


Hey, lookie what I found in one of those East Anglia emails:





I know there is pressure to present a nice tidy story as regards 'apparent unprecedented warming in a thousand years or more in the proxy data' but in reality the situation is not quite so simple. We don't have a lot of proxies that come right up to date and those that do (at least a significant number of tree proxies ) some unexpected changes in response that do not match the recent warming. I do not think it wise that this issue be ignored in the chapter.

Wild Cobra
04-01-2010, 10:18 AM
Hey propaganda Dan...

First of all, you expect me to believe the Mad Cow, then you give a link that does not go to the money you listed.

Way to Go Dan...

baseline bum
04-01-2010, 12:11 PM
Great video, dan. :tu

LMAO @ AFP being a "grassroots" organization.

EmptyMan
04-01-2010, 12:14 PM
lol Climate Change "deniers"

RandomGuy
04-01-2010, 05:19 PM
As was recently summarized in the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the risks to society and ecosystems from increasing greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions are significant. Meeting the enormous energy demand growth and managing the risk of GHG emissions are the twin challenges of our time.

We all must engage in the search for solutions if we are to succeed at mitigating these risks.

http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/energy_climate_views.aspx

When companies like Exxon start saying that the risks must be mitigated, one has to start paying attention.

boutons_deux
04-01-2010, 07:51 PM
"search for solutions if we are to succeed at mitigating these risks"

PR bullshit, spin, disinformation, Orwellian. It's like BP saying how green they were, until they failed to maintain their Alaska pipeline and very un-greenly failed.

Wild Cobra
04-01-2010, 11:02 PM
http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/energy_climate_views.aspx

When companies like Exxon start saying that the risks must be mitigated, one has to start paying attention.
Are you maybe reading into something you want rather than what they may mean?

What if they simply recognize they are at risk of attack if they don't appear to do something?

I wouldn't take that as a statement they actually agree with the effect that CO2 has. What if they believe like me, that CO2 is insignificant to increasing radiative forcing, but are simply putting on a good public face?

word
04-02-2010, 10:56 AM
India and China are not on board with GW and co2 limits.

/game over, pointless discussion

Wild Cobra
04-02-2010, 11:07 AM
India and China are not on board with GW and co2 limits.

/game over, pointless discussion
Agreed. We could go to zero emissions, and they will still be pumping it out.