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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Rachael Maddow takes a look



    Among the wing-nut organizations that Koch Industries support financially..

    1) Cato Ins ute $8,450,000
    2) Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $6,025,375
    3) George Mason University $2,311,149
    4) George Mason University Foundation, Inc. $2,074,893
    6) Heritage Foundation, The $1,004,000
    7) Ins ute for Justice $1,000,000
    8) Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment $810,000
    9) Reason Foundation, The $642,000
    10) Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies, The $504,000
    12) Ins ute for Humane Studies $455,000
    13) Pacific Research Ins ute for Public Policy $385,000
    14) Washington Legal Foundation $350,000
    15) Capital Research Center $340,000
    16) Compe ive Enterprise Ins ute $254,460
    20) Ethics and Public Policy Center, Inc. $190,000
    22) National Center for Policy Analysis $175,000
    23) Citizens for Congressional Reform Foundation $175,000
    24) Manhattan Ins ute for Policy Research, Inc. $125,000
    25) American Legislative Exchange Council $120,000
    26) Acton Ins ute for the Study of Religion and Liberty $115,000
    28) Political Economy Research Center, Inc. $80,000
    29) Media Ins ute $60,000
    30) National Foundation for Teaching Entrepreneurship $60,000
    31) University of Chicago $59,000
    32) Defenders of Property Rights $55,000
    33) University of Kansas Endowment Assocation $50,000
    36) Texas Public Policy Foundation $44,500
    37) Center for Individual Rights, The $40,000
    38) Heartland Ins ute $40,000
    39) Texas Justice Foundation $40,000
    40) Ins ute for Policy Innovation $35,000
    42) Center of the American Experiment $31,500
    43) Atlas Economic Research Foundation $28,500
    44) Young America's Foundation $25,000
    45) Henry Hazlitt Foundation $25,000
    47) Atlantic Legal Foundation $20,000
    48) National Taxpayers Union Foundation $20,000
    49) Families Against Mandatory Minimums $20,000
    50) Philanthropy Roundtable $19,200
    51) Free Enterprise Ins ute $15,000
    52) John Locke Foundation $15,000
    53) Hudson Ins ute, Inc. $12,650
    54) Alexis de Tocqueville Ins ution $12,500
    55) National Environmental Policy Ins ute $12,500
    56) Washington University $11,500
    57) Pacific Legal Foundation $10,000
    58) American Council for Capital Formation $10,000
    60) Ins ute for Political Economy $8,000
    62) State Policy Network $6,500
    64) Fraser Ins ute, The $5,000
    65) Mackinac Center, The $5,000
    66) Ins ute for Research on the Economics of Taxation $5,000
    68) Ins ute for Objectivist Studies $5,000
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    It's not even summer yet. Wait your turn!

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    I wasn't aware the TPPF was a climate change denier. They focus on criminal justice.

    How many of the other "wingnut" orgs focus specifically on climate change, Dan? That's a rather long list you posted. I hope you have examples for all the wingnuts you posted.

    Or are we just supposed to take your word for it?

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    "How many of the other "wingnut" orgs focus specifically on climate change"

    loaded, leading question. The list of supporters doesn't mean the supporter "focuses specifically on climate change", just that VRWC player/oil-industries Koch gave the org money.

    Many orgs are desperate for money, esp now that the Banksters' Great Depression has severely crimped donations. The hurting orgs will for it. Just another way how the VRWC operates.

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    Vrwc?

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    OIC. Vast right wing conspiracy.

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    Many orgs are desperate for money, esp now that the Banksters' Great Depression has severely crimped donations. The hurting orgs will for it. Just another way how the VRWC operates.
    While I think you make a credible argument, it doesn't seem as though there's been an escalation in GW denial since the crash(es). Rather than refuting your point, the lesson may be that plenty of non-profits are happy to themselves out in good as much as bad times, regardless of political affiliation.

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    Nothing to see here. There's plenty of money being thrown around on both sides of the issue.

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    It's weird how all that money changed the temperature trend of the last decade.

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    OIC. Vast right wing conspiracy.
    Tin-foil hat required.

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    Tin-foil hat?

    nah, the players are very well known, very public, even if, eg, Koch tries to be invisible.

    I didn't believe with Hillary said VRWC back in the 90s, but Meillon Scaife, etc were already attacking the Clintons and she knew it.

    The entire philosophy of the Repugs for 35+ Movement Conservative years is to destroy any Dem presidency, no matter how badly that s up the country, so the Repugs can their filthy hands back on the levers of the federal money machine.

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    Did any of these hired gun deniers conspire to hide data and violate freedom of information laws?


    Meh, I won't attack the character of global warmists. It's much easier to attack their weak-sauce "science". I'll leave the character assassination to the left.


    Carry on with your thread-sharting, boutons.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    Tin-foil hat?

    nah, the players are very well known, very public, even if, eg, Koch tries to be invisible.

    I didn't believe with Hillary said VRWC back in the 90s, but Meillon Scaife, etc were already attacking the Clintons and she knew it.

    The entire philosophy of the Repugs for 35+ Movement Conservative years is to destroy any Dem presidency, no matter how badly that s up the country, so the Repugs can their filthy hands back on the levers of the federal money machine.
    You're right. Nix the tin foil hat.

    Straw hat is more appropriate.

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    Actually, nobody denies climate change. The issue is whether climate change of the last 100 years or so is unusual or unprecedented.


    Hey, lookie what I found in one of those East Anglia emails:



    I know there is pressure to present a nice tidy story as regards 'apparent unprecedented warming in a thousand years or more in the proxy data' but in reality the situation is not quite so simple. We don't have a lot of proxies that come right up to date and those that do (at least a significant number of tree proxies ) some unexpected changes in response that do not match the recent warming. I do not think it wise that this issue be ignored in the chapter.

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    Hey propaganda Dan...

    First of all, you expect me to believe the Mad Cow, then you give a link that does not go to the money you listed.

    Way to Go Dan...

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    Great video, dan.

    LMAO @ AFP being a "grassroots" organization.

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    lol Climate Change "deniers"

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    As was recently summarized in the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the risks to society and ecosystems from increasing greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions are significant. Meeting the enormous energy demand growth and managing the risk of GHG emissions are the twin challenges of our time.

    We all must engage in the search for solutions if we are to succeed at mitigating these risks.
    http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/...ate_views.aspx

    When companies like Exxon start saying that the risks must be mitigated, one has to start paying attention.

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    "search for solutions if we are to succeed at mitigating these risks"

    PR bull , spin, disinformation, Orwellian. It's like BP saying how green they were, until they failed to maintain their Alaska pipeline and very un-greenly failed.

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    http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/...ate_views.aspx

    When companies like Exxon start saying that the risks must be mitigated, one has to start paying attention.
    Are you maybe reading into something you want rather than what they may mean?

    What if they simply recognize they are at risk of attack if they don't appear to do something?

    I wouldn't take that as a statement they actually agree with the effect that CO2 has. What if they believe like me, that CO2 is insignificant to increasing radiative forcing, but are simply putting on a good public face?

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    India and China are not on board with GW and co2 limits.

    /game over, pointless discussion

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    India and China are not on board with GW and co2 limits.

    /game over, pointless discussion
    Agreed. We could go to zero emissions, and they will still be pumping it out.

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