View Full Version : Knicks should set sights on Ginobili by Peter Vecsey
MaNu4Tres
04-04-2010, 06:25 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/the_perfect_manu_l9qW31U0BRq9RYJLquzbpL
Muser
04-04-2010, 06:29 AM
He's not going to NY for shit.
MaNu4Tres
04-04-2010, 06:33 AM
He's not going to NY for shit.
I concur.
raspsa
04-04-2010, 07:44 AM
Until SA gets him to sign an extension, he's fair game. Desperate teams can do crazy things and offer crazy money and NY qualifies. I'm sure Mike D'Antoni would just love to have Manu as his no. 2 superstar next to LBJ. Teams who have cleared cap space and who miss out on James, Wade and Bosh may find manu a very tempting alternative.
TDMVPDPOY
04-04-2010, 07:49 AM
knicks might offer him all the money in the world, but they arent winnin shit anyway
stéphane
04-04-2010, 07:55 AM
Won't happen. The knicks will still be terrible because they won't get Lebron and their frontcourt is too thin for them to be a contender with whatever max player they think they'll get.
emanueldavidginobili
04-04-2010, 08:00 AM
hes going to a contender hes not going to the knicks at the end of his career, who wants to end out their career on a bad team, hes only going to teams like lakers celtics magic cavs all the top tier teams.
raspsa
04-04-2010, 08:07 AM
Its not just the Knicks though.. the sooner SA gets him to sign an extension the better.
Spursfanfromafar
04-04-2010, 08:12 AM
If the Knicks get Bosh on a near-max to NYC, get a bunch of veteran role players as well (say Camby?, Jason Williams) to round off their roster; they can indeed lure Ginobili with a contract that exceeds what the Spurs would manage to offer. It would be sad to see Manu leave to a perennial loser like the Knicks; but the possibilities are very much there.
wildbill2u
04-04-2010, 08:40 AM
Manu has to be on the list of top five free agents since he's proved he's back. And while he can get a very good contract, at his age he will be offered a lot less than James Wade and Bosh. It would be a very good shot for a team to get a top player who can put butts in the seats because of his exciting play.
I'm praying we can keep him--but he'll have some tempting offers.
bigfan
04-04-2010, 09:07 AM
Good article. Manu will be an expensive resign but I think he deserves to retire a Spur, as did David and Sean (and Timmy some day). I only wish the Iceman could have done the same.
alchemist
04-04-2010, 09:39 AM
I have a gut feeling that he ends up in Houston to finish his career with his buddy Scola.
San Antonio would be in epic meltdown mode. :lol
If Manu were to leave, the Knicks might be the best possible scenario. Eastern Conference team, and no immediate threat to the Spurs. They will have HUGE cap room, so maybe swing a sign-and-trade that sends Richard Jefferson's salary too? RJ would fit in better in the Knicks system, so it would be a win/win for everyone. Not as good as keeping Manu, but if he has to go...
Chico
04-04-2010, 09:52 AM
This guy was pretty generous with the compliments..
emanueldavidginobili
04-04-2010, 10:11 AM
manu and scola would be niceee, the pick and roll would be beast they have alotttt of chemistry
alchemist
04-04-2010, 10:13 AM
This guy was pretty generous with the compliments..
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/ginobili_makes_habit_of_dazzling_uw3EHpEdZFQOdX27Y WBwKK
I remember he wrote this piece after Manu had that incredible game saving play against the Thunder.
Rick Von Braun
04-04-2010, 10:37 AM
What people really don't grasp is that if Manu leaves in the FA, then the Spurs most probably will be in full rebuilding mode. They will be over the cap, with only the MLE/LLE to spend and paper thin at too many positions
There is NO WAY the Spurs can field a contender team w/o Manu, and they will not find a Manu Ginobili for the MLE. Even if they hypothetically do, they won't be able to address any of their needs, and the team will remain as weak as it is now in the absolutely miraculously best case scenario (quite improbably actually). The future of Duncan is tightly related to Manu.
urunobili
04-04-2010, 11:11 AM
CROFL Raising kids in NYC :rolleyes
DPG21920
04-04-2010, 11:15 AM
Yes, the Knicks should use their cap space on a talented, but much older Ginobili instead of other younger, just as talented players.
Killakobe81
04-04-2010, 01:02 PM
More realistic than Lebron ...
Bosh, Manu and resign David Lee
Let Manu run the offense alongside Wilson Chandler develop Toney Douglass as teh back up PG ...
You run as starters Lee, Bosh Chandler Manu and Gallinari ...
Not a title team (or close)yet, but winning one against LBJ would be tough anyway ...
When Curry's contract is ready to expire you trade his contract for the best available big man ...
or you could sign and trade Lee this year for something good and still sign a couple of good players ...I agree Manu and D'antoni would be a great fit.
Some of Manu's best games have come against D'antoni
crc21209
04-04-2010, 01:32 PM
Fuck the Knicks! :lol
tdunk21
04-04-2010, 01:46 PM
manu is a spur....knicks can kiss pop's ass
ducks
04-04-2010, 03:12 PM
the knicks would be one team that could offer him crazy money when all max players turn him down
spurs would be stupid to match max money that knicks might throw at him
Darthkiller
04-04-2010, 04:16 PM
ginobili = italian
dantoni= italian
gallinari= italian
so it all works out
Harry Callahan
04-04-2010, 04:33 PM
The Knicks stink and James is not going to start over with lesser players for less guaranteed money in NY. Not gonna happen, and Gino is not going there is there if no chance to win.
dbreiden83080
04-04-2010, 04:40 PM
Vecsey is a tool..
in2deep
04-04-2010, 05:07 PM
Manu has 2, tops 3 years at this level.
he is gonna get a TON of money no matter where he goes
Martin R
04-04-2010, 05:16 PM
I know Manu is on the list of LA.
SenorSpur
04-04-2010, 05:30 PM
What people really don't grasp is that if Manu leaves in the FA, then the Spurs most probably will be in full rebuilding mode. They will be over the cap, with only the MLE/LLE to spend and paper thin at too many positions
There is NO WAY the Spurs can field a contender team w/o Manu, and they will not find a Manu Ginobili for the MLE. Even if they hypothetically do, they won't be able to address any of their needs, and the team will remain as weak as it is now in the absolutely miraculously best case scenario (quite improbably actually). The future of Duncan is tightly related to Manu.
There is no "probably" about it. If Manu departs, the Spurs WILL be in rebuilding mode - whether they choose to admit it or not.
BackHome
04-04-2010, 06:10 PM
That is so funny Manu signing for a team that sucks and moving his wife and two new born kids to the big city. Never going to happen........All Manu wants is for the Spurs to show respect and to show they have faith in him as a player. If they show that and give him a fair contract he will retire a Spur!
Martin R
04-04-2010, 06:17 PM
...then San Antonio will have to put a LOT of MONEY on table, and I mean A LOT.
MaNu4Tres
04-04-2010, 06:35 PM
If I'm the Spurs I offer Ginobili a front-ended deal starting at around 10-11 million for 3-4 years.
YoMamaIsCallin
04-04-2010, 06:54 PM
Manu is selfless. He is driven to help his team win. He works hard on every possession. He thinks defense is at least as important as offense. He doesn't care about individual awards or stats. He certainly doesn't care about starting or minutes or "whose team is this?". And, most important, he is a winner.
Therefore, he's completely disqualified from being a New York Knick. They'd have to give the entire organization a brain transplant if they wanted him to play there.
Darthkiller
04-04-2010, 06:58 PM
Manu is selfless. He is driven to help his team win. He works hard on every possession. He thinks defense is at least as important as offense. He doesn't care about individual awards or stats. He certainly doesn't care about starting or minutes or "whose team is this?". And, most important, he is a winner.
Therefore, he's completely disqualified from being a New York Knick. They'd have to give the entire organization a brain transplant if they wanted him to play there.
actually the knicks have always been known for their tough defense and blue collar hard working mentality. just not the current group of knicks(most of them will be gone anyways).
i am sure manu wouldnt mind playing in the best arena in the largest city in the world and try restore that team back to what it once was . it would greatly improve his legacy imo.
YoMamaIsCallin
04-04-2010, 07:04 PM
I am fully aware of the Knicks history, I was a Knicks fan back in the 60s/early 70s when they won their championships. They were a beautiful team with an amazing organization then. Don't get me started, I would go on for pages.
The Knicks organization today has absolutely zero in common with that of 40 years ago. From the owner on down, it stinks. One player is not going to change that. The history of this league is full of outstanding players on bad, losing teams. They are still bad and they still lose.
If there is going to be a rebirth of the old Knicks, they'd have to start by getting a new owner and basically getting rid of the entire management structure and starting over again. D'Antoni isn't a bad coach but he is never going to build a winning team, he's like the current day version of Paul Westphal.
BackHome
04-04-2010, 08:30 PM
actually the knicks have always been known for their tough defense and blue collar hard working mentality. just not the current group of knicks(most of them will be gone anyways).
i am sure manu wouldnt mind playing in the best arena in the largest city in the world and try restore that team back to what it once was . it would greatly improve his legacy imo.
You do know who is coaching the knicks?
lennyalderette
04-04-2010, 10:18 PM
like i said hes my moms friends next door neighbor (manu ginobili) and hes not going anywhere!!! bet on it
Budkin
04-04-2010, 10:27 PM
LOL Fuck that shit.
Slydragon
04-04-2010, 10:42 PM
like i said hes my moms friends next door neighbor (manu ginobili) and hes not going anywhere!!! bet on it
That puts my mind to rest. :tu
ElNono
04-04-2010, 10:48 PM
The son of my uncle's cousin grooms his (manu ginobili) barber's dog and he said Manu is not going anywhere...
kuato
04-05-2010, 05:32 AM
i am sure manu wouldnt mind playing in the best arena in the largest city in the world and try restore that team back to what it once was . it would greatly improve his legacy imo.
Largest city in the world ? , what ? nope.
KenziE
04-05-2010, 07:21 AM
he is manu ginobili ....
Manu-of-steel
04-05-2010, 07:47 AM
It would be tough for the spurs to sign Manu, but i believe, Manu's heart is to be a spur for life.
Manu-of-steel
04-05-2010, 07:53 AM
The post gave intoxicating praises of Manu, maybe enough for Donnie Walsh to offer Manu 20 million/year, lol!
waly.mg
04-05-2010, 09:17 AM
I don´t think that. Probably no one can spend more than 15 millions.
Because NY want another Star
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