Why does anyone still try to pretend 360 > PS3?

[Leetonidas]

It's pretty fucking obvious that the Playstation 3 shits all over the 360 in every possible way. Yet still there's all kinds of 360 fanboys running around.

Every single person, EVERY SINGLE PERSON, that I have ever known personally that has had a 360 has had it red ring or break, including myself. After finally getting a PS3 I have to say it owns the shit out of 360. I used to love Xbox and kinda bought into that hype that 360 was better and had better games but overall it's just garbage. All it really has going for that PS3 doesn't is Halo 3, which ain't saying much.

[balli]

ps3 has two, count it two game franchises that 360 doesn't (that are worth it). Uncharted and Demon's Souls. And even though they're supposedly awesome those shits don't even begin to compare to Mass Effect and everything Valve has and ever will make. And Halo Reach is going to be better as well.

And I like having a dashboard and online experience, that are y'know, a billion times better.

And the 360 controller curbstomps the ps3's into hundreds of little pieces.

[Shaolin-Style]

I find ps3 doesn't have as many exclusives that the 360 has, nor does it get dlc as quickly. Seems like some platform-wide ports often run better on the 360 also.

On the otherhand, the online for ps3 is free, and that winds up being a pretty big deal. It doesn't seem as efficient though. Live seems to just flow better than the psn.

The controllers for the ps3 are tons better imo, and I like that the ps3 let's me actually use a usb headset I can easily switch to my pc and back to it to talk, even though I had to buy it sold seperately. The ps3 controller I got came with a charger, whereas the 360 just said find some batteries.

As for the breakage, yes my 360 red ringed on me, but I got a replacement from microsoft within one week, no shipping cost either. Reliable or not, they do seem good about replacing it. Gonna cringe when that deal is up though.

As for ps3 issues, mine is having difficulty reading discs off and on. DVDs are also randomly freezing to the point where I have to watch a dvd on my regular dvd player. Crap like that may be less frequent for the ps3, but it still happens, and they don't go out of their way like microsoft has to remedy the situation I've found.

Not knocking either system, I own both and enjoy both, but frankly when it comes down to being given the choice which system to buy a cross-platform game for I'll take the 360 version of it nearly everytime if they're the same price.

[balli]

Not to mention XBLA and the marketplace. There are a lot of examples, but hands down, two of the best games in recent years were Shadow Complex and Braid. As good as any game that costs $60 off the shelf. Good job ps3 on getting Braid a year and a half later. I don't believe you're ever getting Shadow Complex.

And before anyone brings up God of War... I already played that shit when it was a lot more challenging and called Ninja Gaiden.

[BlackSwordsMan]

I love my broken box

[BlackSwordsMan]

Not to mention XBLA and the marketplace. There are a lot of examples, but hands down, two of the best games in recent years were Shadow Complex and Braid. As good as any game that costs $60 off the shelf. Good job ps3 on getting Braid a year and a half later. I don't believe you're ever getting Shadow Complex.

And before anyone brings up God of War... I already played that shit when it was a lot more challenging and called Ninja Gaiden.

PS3 gets sigma 1 and 2 though. :depressed

[Cry Havoc]

ps3 has two, count it two game franchises that 360 doesn't (that are worth it). Uncharted and Demon's Souls.

Metal Gear Solid?

Killzone?

Resistance?

God of War? (The same game as Ninja Gaiden ROFL)

Infamous?

Little Big Planet?

Rachet and Clank?

Heavy Rain?

Gran Turismo? (Forthcoming obviously, but it's still a reason to own a Ps3)

MAG?

And coming in November is Final Fantasy XIV, which could be stellar, or could suck.

When's the last time the 360 released an exclusive, must have game? Mass Effect 2 doesn't count, as it's also out for PC and therefore not necessarily a reason that you "must" buy a 360.

[balli]

Metal Gear Solid?
I used to want to play mgs4. Now all I hear in hindsight is people making fun of how lame and overly serious and boring it was.


Killzone?

Resistance?lol zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Infamous?
WTF is Infamous?

Little Big Planet?bah. I don't need to design my own platformer. I pay professionals to do that for me. And better than I could.


Rachet and Clank?lame


Heavy Rain?Alan Wake. Will be better.


Gran Turismo? (Forthcoming obviously, but it's still a reason to own a Ps3)
I'm not in to racing games. Even less into car porn.


When's the last time the 360 released an exclusive, must have game? Mass Effect 2 doesn't count
Well, that's just like, your opinion man.

[Cry Havoc]

lol zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Yeahhhh, I mean Killzone only got higher ratings than any other FPS in some cases.


WTF is Infamous?

Something that any actual gamer would know.


bah. I don't need to design my own platformer. I pay professionals to do that for me. And better than I could.

Right. LBP doesn't have a single level designed in-game. Brilliant.


lame

Kind of like your opinion,



Well, that's just like, your opinion man.

Is a game that's released for two platforms exclusive or not? If a cell phone is released for T-Mobile and AT&T, is it exclusive to T-Mobile? Just wondering.

LOL Alan Wake. The game that started in 2005 and was originally due out in 2008? Or was it 2007?

This just in, your opinions about games that have consistently been some of the highest rated games over the past year. Your one line criticisms outweigh the thousands of gaming critics and players that have actually, you know, played the games you're talking about in ignorance (as from what your response is, it seems you haven't played many or any of them).

You not liking racing games... how does that make the Ps3 less appealing to the average gamer, who most definitely DOES like racing titles?

The 360 didn't have a single exclusive last year nominated for Game of the Year. The Ps3 had anywhere from 2 to 4 games up for the nomination. I guess if you're still into playing Gears of War and Halo 3, the 360's lineup is still better. 3 year old games FTW.

[Leetonidas]

lol fuck you balli, I don't know if you've ever played Resistance or Resistance 2, but that game is fucking epic and rivals Halo.

[Shaolin-Style]

Isn't there an MGS coming out for the 360? I wasn't sure if it was gonna do the MGS4 stuff with little additions or what I haven't looked much into it.

I know of infamous but never really saw any gameplay of it only heard good things.

Don't knock alan wake! That games gonna be epic. The fact they didn't rush it out only says good things about it.

[z0sa]

At $299, the PS3 is just a better deal because of its Blu-ray capabilities. I'm glad I have both.

I have not played Killzone but I can vouch for Demon's Souls - it's a must have.

[Fpoonsie]

Yeah, Resistance (both) is (are) AWEsome. R&C is FAR from "lame". Infamous was pretty great, though, I still preferred Prototype.

And, ya know, Blu-Ray continues to rock my face off.

[ynh]

It's pretty fucking obvious that the Playstation 3 shits all over the 360 in every possible way. Yet still there's all kinds of 360 fanboys running around.

Every single person, EVERY SINGLE PERSON, that I have ever known personally that has had a 360 has had it red ring or break, including myself. After finally getting a PS3 I have to say it owns the shit out of 360. I used to love Xbox and kinda bought into that hype that 360 was better and had better games but overall it's just garbage. All it really has going for that PS3 doesn't is Halo 3, which ain't saying much.

The Ps3 has it's own problems.. My first Ps3 had an error on it that caused the drive to completely crap out and not read blu-rays. Off hand I can't recall what they called it but a lot of other owners had this same issue.

I own both.. I would say the vast majority of people that feel 360>Ps3 are saying so because (and these are my reasons) the dashboards is much easier to move through, online is much easier to move through/ find your friends/ start games with them, most of their friends are playing live and not on a Ps3, the conroller for the Ps I personaly have never liked and I don't think it is a better FPS controller then the xbox.

When it comes down to it.. I own both.. I will buy exlusives that are good that the Ps3 offers.. otherwise any multi game I am getting on 360 because live is 100 times better than the psn and because I perfer the 360 controller..

To me.. other then the 3 times a month I might actually play a game on the Ps3.. it makes a good blu-ray player.. and that's it.

So no people are pretending.. I would say (as sales show) that people actually perfer the 360 over the ps3.. and hell I'd say most of those sales on the ps3 is because its has a blu-ray player in it.

[ynh]

Mag is terrible.. I can't believe that was mentioned trying to show that PS has good exclusives.

[ynh]

When's the last time the 360 released an exclusive, must have game? Mass Effect 2 doesn't count, as it's also out for PC and therefore not necessarily a reason that you "must" buy a 360.

The majority of console gamers are not running around with a gaming PC.. I can not stand when that excuse is used... if we are debating which is better.. the PS3 or 360 why exactly can someone not use a game that is on the 360 and not on the PS3 because it's also on the PC.. whatever the hell is on a PC has no reason to be mentioned in the subject.. unless you want me to say you can't use LBP because it's also on the PSP.



Oh and to answer your question how about next week when the splinter cell game comes out.

[ynh]

Fuck it.... you can't use little big planet.. metal gear solid.. killzone.. Rachet and Clank... Resistance.. and God of War because I can go out and buy a PSP and play those games in some form.

[Shaolin-Style]

Mag is terrible.. I can't believe that was mentioned trying to show that PS has good exclusives.

I didn't think it was so bad when I was sniping but then I played the Badcompany 2 demo it made it look really weak so despite my hate for gamestop I traded it in for 36 bucks which was a good deal imo.

[ynh]

That's pretty damn good.. I've stopped trading in games there after they offered me 15 bucks for A.Creed 2 after it was out for a month.. this 15 bucks was including a promotion they had going that added something like 20 percent and my card which added 10.

[Shaolin-Style]

I caught them at a good trade in sale period where they actually gave you a somewhat fair deal, it only lasted til march 17th.

They gave 50% more on trade ins as long as you were taking it as a card to spend at their store.

[MiamiHeat]

the 360 IS better than the ps3.

Live >>>> PSN

getting all of the DLC's first >>>> PS3

better exclusives

[MiamiHeat]

oh, and actually paying for service means you get better service.

APRIL 6, 2010

NEW XBOX 360 CONSOLE UPDATE

Right on schedule, Microsoft has introduced support for USB memory devices on its Xbox 360 console.

The added feature, available now via a mandatory system update, allows users to attach a USB-based storage device for easy memory expansion.

The storage can be used to store gamer profiles, saved games, demos and a variety of content from Xbox Live Marketplace, and will come as a welcome solution to users who have struggled to justify the costs associated with Microsoft's proprietary Xbox 360 hard drives.


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lol ps3. free = not as much support

[resistanze]

oh, and actually paying for service means you get better service.

APRIL 6, 2010

NEW XBOX 360 CONSOLE UPDATE

Right on schedule, Microsoft has introduced support for USB memory devices on its Xbox 360 console.

The added feature, available now via a mandatory system update, allows users to attach a USB-based storage device for easy memory expansion.

The storage can be used to store gamer profiles, saved games, demos and a variety of content from Xbox Live Marketplace, and will come as a welcome solution to users who have struggled to justify the costs associated with Microsoft's proprietary Xbox 360 hard drives.


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lol ps3. free = not as much support
:lol I wouldn't use an update for a feature that should've bee introduced in 2006 as an example though.

But back to the subject, I own both. Both are great. Uncharted, Ratchet, MGS, GT5 are great. ME series, Forza, Halo, XBL are awesome. They both serve me well. Fuck fanboyism.

[MiamiHeat]

i love how ps3 fanboys always mention Gran Tourismo as if the XBOX doesn't have Forza :)

[LnGrrrR]

I'm a fan of 360 moreso than PS3, because nearly all my friends have Xboxes, and only my rich friends had PS3's. Sure, the PS3 is cheaper now, but I only have so much dough to spread around. I'm not spending 300 on a console for the few exclusive games it has that I want to play (LittleBig, Heavy Rain, God of War). I'll just go to my rich friend's house and play them.

[ElNono]

Quite a few people run Verbatims on their 360, and that has a lot of appeal to them.

[ATRAIN]

Metal Gear Solid?

Killzone?

Resistance?

God of War? (The same game as Ninja Gaiden ROFL)

Infamous?

Little Big Planet?

Rachet and Clank?

Heavy Rain?

Gran Turismo? (Forthcoming obviously, but it's still a reason to own a Ps3)

MAG?

And coming in November is Final Fantasy XIV, which could be stellar, or could suck.

When's the last time the 360 released an exclusive, must have game? Mass Effect 2 doesn't count, as it's also out for PC and therefore not necessarily a reason that you "must" buy a 360.


Out of all of these listed the only one worth note is God Of War, the rest all suck balls.

[balli]

Mass Effect was a damn Microsoft Game Studios game.

And also, ps3 owners didn't develop an inferiority complex because they're superior. That's not how it works.

[ATRAIN]

Ill admit the PS3 as a system is better built and the blu ray makes it better. Exclusive games on PS3 (other than god of war) suck. Controler sucks. The live system sucks.


Xbox live is what I bought my Xbox and 360 for. The Halo series and Gears of war series are bad ass and on live is fun as hell. I haven't played Mass Effect 1 or 2 but they are on my list.

[ATRAIN]

Also Crackdown is a pretty fun game and is better than some of the games Havoc listed.

[DarkReign]

Some of you are almost 30 years old.

Act like it. At this stage in your life, you should be able to afford both (if you so choose). It doesnt matter which one is better when you own both.

I play both, but I seem to be playing PS3 a helluva lot more lately (FF13, GoW3, UC2) while every game that has come out for Xbox lately is something I can get on PC, which curbstomps any console.

[Cry Havoc]

The majority of console gamers are not running around with a gaming PC..

You're right, no one has a gaming PC these days. That's why World of Warcraft (a pay per month game!) has over 11,000,000 subscribers. A lot of hardcore gamers DO have multiple systems, and a PC is very bit as viable as having two consoles, and probably nearly as common, especially considering extremely powerful GPUs are in fact less than $150 to buy now.



I can not stand when that excuse is used...

What you can stand or not is not really relevant in a debate.


unless you want me to say you can't use LBP because it's also on the PSP.

I think you have comprehension problems. I shouldn't have to explain this to you, a PSP version of any game is going to be a stripped down mobile version of the game. ANY game released for PC is going to be equal to or completely superior in every way to a console, aside from sports/fighting games.


And also, ps3 owners didn't develop an inferiority complex because they're superior. That's not how it works.

No, it happened because every drunken fratboy on the planet bought a 360 and started wanking to Halo and talking about how hardcore of a gamer he is because he learned how to play one FPS game. Just like you, balli, claiming how badly Ps3 games suck when you clearly haven't even touched them, and may not even have watch them demoed.

I have repeatedly commented on the merits of the 360, and the quality of games they have produced during the first year's of the console's existence. I think it's a very good system, and produces some spectacular games. It's true that I feel the Ps3 is better, but who has an inferiority complex here? Me, or the guy saying "HA HA EVERYTHING PS3 SUX I KNO BEKUZ IT SEZ SONY XBOX 4 LIFE LULZ"


Out of all of these listed the only one worth note is God Of War, the rest all suck balls.

Gotta love attempting to be rational with M$ fanboys.

[ATRAIN]

Some of you are almost 30 years old.

Act like it. At this stage in your life, you should be able to afford both (if you so choose). It doesnt matter which one is better when you own both.

I play both, but I seem to be playing PS3 a helluva lot more lately (FF13, GoW3, UC2) while every game that has come out for Xbox lately is something I can get on PC, which curbstomps any console.

Yeah thats a good point, it really doesnt matter which is better. I have really been considering get a PS3 just for the God Of War series. I played a bit of UC2 at the Sony store and it seemed pretty cool. You are also right about PC beaing better than any console. I need to upgrade computers when Star Craft 2 comes out.

[phyzik]

I have 2 360's in my house. one is mine and the other is my room mates. Neither of us have had the RROD and I bought mine like a week after the 360 was released.

I guess Im the exception to the norm.

[Wild Cobra]

I was never a of of the X-Box because it's made by Microsoft. Then there is the HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray.

Anyone remember those threads? I gave the reasons Blu-Ray was better, but there were so many people convinced HD-DVD would win out.

[ATRAIN]

I was never a of of the X-Box because it's made by Microsoft. Then there is the HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray.

Anyone remember those threads? I gave the reasons Blu-Ray was better, but there were so many people convinced HD-DVD would win out.

I never bought the HD drive for the Xbox but I used to argue with my friend that blu ray was gonna win the war and he used to say no Hd will win cause of the xbox. I had a blu ray player and he had his HD drive. LOL it was funny when HD folded cause he said it was gonna come back. A year later blu ray is still going strong.

[ElNono]

I have 2 360's in my house. one is mine and the other is my room mates. Neither of us have had the RROD and I bought mine like a week after the 360 was released.

I guess Im the exception to the norm.

No you're not. I bought mine about 6 months after it came out and never had a RROD either.

[ElNono]

I have no use for a Blu Ray player, so that was never really a plus for me. And I was tempted to get a PS3, but up until recently it was way too expensive compared to the 360.

[Cry Havoc]

No you're not. I bought mine about 6 months after it came out and never had a RROD either.

It goes both ways. I have a friend who's on his 7th 360.

Thankfully, the latest generation of 360s seem to be much more dependable.

[resistanze]

This discussion is irrelevant.

Wii > all.

[symple19]

this discussion is irrelevant.

Pc > all.

fify

[IronMexican]

GOW and MGS are the only two reasons I regret selling my ps3.


Not to mention PSN charges Tax and, thats just shitty.

[cool cat]

The Ps3 has it's own problems.. My first Ps3 had an error on it that caused the drive to completely crap out and not read blu-rays. Off hand I can't recall what they called it but a lot of other owners had this same issue.

I own both.. I would say the vast majority of people that feel 360>Ps3 are saying so because (and these are my reasons) the dashboards is much easier to move through, online is much easier to move through/ find your friends/ start games with them, most of their friends are playing live and not on a Ps3, the conroller for the Ps I personaly have never liked and I don't think it is a better FPS controller then the xbox.

When it comes down to it.. I own both.. I will buy exlusives that are good that the Ps3 offers.. otherwise any multi game I am getting on 360 because live is 100 times better than the psn and because I perfer the 360 controller..

To me.. other then the 3 times a month I might actually play a game on the Ps3.. it makes a good blu-ray player.. and that's it.

So no people are pretending.. I would say (as sales show) that people actually perfer the 360 over the ps3.. and hell I'd say most of those sales on the ps3 is because its has a blu-ray player in it.

+1


I was all set on being a Ps3 fanboy 5 years ago. Well 5 years is a long time and it's not even close anymore 360>PS3.

There are a few thing I like about the PS3.

1. Playstation Home is great. Way better then the Mii360 avatars. To me it's truly brilliant and the potential is amazing. I would like to see Microsoft come up with something like this and use the Natal to be able to import your true image into a social network.

2. Few good exclusives. 360 has more but PS3 has it's share of great games. Metal Gear Solid to me is the most overrated series of all time and I have thought that even back on the PS2. The next one is coming for the 360 so it's no longer exclusive. Heavy Rain blew my mind. It's not a game for everyone but it looked incredible. I played FF13 right after Heavy Rain and it made FF13 graphics look like it was from an older generation console.

3. It is the best Blu-ray player. Not much else to say about that, it stands on its own.

4. More functions then the 360. The Ps3 is closer to an PC then an other gaming console before it. So you can plug in most devices that you put on a computer in a PS3. I haven't seen this stuff used that much but it is there.

But there are several things that are just bad and annoying on the PS3 and I will get into them in another post.

[TheSullyMonster]

You're right, no one has a gaming PC these days. That's why World of Warcraft (a pay per month game!) has over 11,000,000 subscribers.


WoW can practically run on a graphing calculator.:lol


i love how ps3 fanboys always mention Gran Tourismo as if the XBOX doesn't have Forza :)

Or, you know. Like GT is out.:lmao


Out of all of these listed the only one worth note is God Of War, the rest all suck balls.

Not gonna lie. I'll be buying a PS3 once GT is actually out.:ihit

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The BR player is the reason I bought the PS3. My 360 doesn't get much use these days.

And I like that the PS3 doesn't sound like a twin-engine Cessna when first turned on.

[FalleNxWiZarDx]

Xbox 360 >>> PS3 ALL DAY ANY DAY NIKKA

[Cry Havoc]

WoW can practically run on a graphing calculator.:lol

And a very solid video card is cheaper than a graphing calculator.


Or, you know. Like GT is out.:lmao

I see 360 fanbois bragging about how epic Alan Wake will be. Remind me, when that was out?


Not gonna lie. I'll be buying a PS3 once GT is actually out.:ihit

I think it's amusing that 360 fans in this thread are basically saying, "Ps3 sux neener neener" with no factual backing. Keep up the completely irrelevant posts and opinions that have no basis in reality, guys.

[balli]

I see 360 fanbois bragging about how epic Alan Wake will be. Remind me, when that was out?
Personally, I don't think it looks great, just not my kind of game. But MS Game Studios doesn't publish shitty games. They just don't. Never have. Probably never will.

Plus, I'm of the opinion that delays are a good thing. I'd rather they get it right, than release a substandard product. Sometimes ambition costs more time than a developer thinks it will. And that's okay.



I think it's amusing that 360 fans in this thread are basically saying, "Ps3 sux neener neener" with no factual backing. Keep up the completely irrelevant posts and opinions that have no basis in reality, guys.
See. This is what pisses me off so much. I have never started a thread disparaging the ps3. I don't think anybody has. If so, very fucking rarely. I don't ever make comments that go out of the way to mock the ps3. I don't really care. I really don't.

So when somebody starts a thread like YOU did once with a big ass picture of an RROD, or a thread titled Why does anyone still try to pretend 360 > PS3, it raises my hackles a bit when I or anyone else is drunk enough to take the bait and respond, leading you to come in here with all your made up leet speak quotes about what huge fanboys we all are.

People are allowed to like the 360 more. Objectively, most people do. If you can't deal with that opinion, I'd suggest you and the rest of the ps3 crowd STFU with the goddamn litany of threads and endlessly disparaging comments that almost exclusively start these debates in the first place. It's a fucking lame attitude and approach. Really lame.

[z0sa]

:sleep

systems have been competing since consoles first became mainstream in the late 1970's. Just be like me (and darkreign) and buy both.

[ynh]

You're right, no one has a gaming PC these days. That's why World of Warcraft (a pay per month game!) has over 11,000,000 subscribers. A lot of hardcore gamers DO have multiple systems, and a PC is very bit as viable as having two consoles, and probably nearly as common, especially considering extremely powerful GPUs are in fact less than $150 to buy now.




What you can stand or not is not really relevant in a debate.



I think you have comprehension problems. I shouldn't have to explain this to you, a PSP version of any game is going to be a stripped down mobile version of the game. ANY game released for PC is going to be equal to or completely superior in every way to a console, aside from sports/fighting games.



No, it happened because every drunken fratboy on the planet bought a 360 and started wanking to Halo and talking about how hardcore of a gamer he is because he learned how to play one FPS game. Just like you, balli, claiming how badly Ps3 games suck when you clearly haven't even touched them, and may not even have watch them demoed.

I have repeatedly commented on the merits of the 360, and the quality of games they have produced during the first year's of the console's existence. I think it's a very good system, and produces some spectacular games. It's true that I feel the Ps3 is better, but who has an inferiority complex here? Me, or the guy saying "HA HA EVERYTHING PS3 SUX I KNO BEKUZ IT SEZ SONY XBOX 4 LIFE LULZ"



Gotta love attempting to be rational with M$ fanboys.



First off I said the majority.. no need to use the typical come back and exagerate what I said into me saying no one has a gaming PC..

Your second statement.. well lets just say it's about as relevant as what games I can buy on a pc when we are having a debate on the ps3 and xbox.

I said "in some form" and used that wording for a reason.. because I knew you would come back saying that.. perhaps you should work on your comprehension problems or actually take the time to carefully read what I write if you are going to respond.

[ynh]

BTW just to clarify again I have both.. but the original topic is so fan boy I had to respond.. Don't really care which is better.. though numbers tell you that the public perfer the 360.

I like my ps3.. it makes a good blu-ray player... unfortunatly that's all I use it for because other than one or two exclusives a year (pretty much The Show and some other game each year) I never touch it other than to put a movie in because every multiplatform game I can buy for xbox and get a better online experience.

[ynh]

See you can debate all you want about exclusives and which system has the better ones.. which all comes down to taste.

But the one thing sony fan boys never try and debate.. and the one thing that truely seperates the 360 from the ps3 is the online experience.

When it comes down to it that is why people tend to perfer the 360.

[Cry Havoc]

BTW just to clarify again I have both.. but the original topic is so fan boy I had to respond.. Don't really care which is better.. though numbers tell you that the public perfer the 360.

Actually the numbers indicate that the public massively prefers the Wii over the 360 or Ps3. And since the Wii is nearly worthless as a real gaming console, it invalidates your point here. The public en masse made Britney Spears one of the most successful musicians of all time. Using them as a backing point for having a superior anything is an extremely shaky line of reasoning.

The 360 launched a full year earlier than the Ps3, at roughly 2/3rds the price, with a very good launch lineup. Those reasons, largely moot now, are really the only reason for the disparity in sales of consoles.


So when somebody starts a thread like YOU did once with a big ass picture of an RROD

Sorry, I didn't know The Geek Zone was SRS BZNSS. If you're that offended by me posting a RRoD, doesn't that tell you something? It. Was. A. Joke. How many threads have been started by 360 fanboys to bash the Ps3 on this forum? Are you telling them to STFU too?

Talking shit about games you've never played is just ridiculous. That's why your comments are absolutely irrelevant. Saying a game that's received stellar reviews sucks when you've never played it is the absolute core of fanboyism. You hate it because it's Ps3.

I don't hate the 360. I think it's a great system. That's the disparity here. You're bagging on everything Ps3, and I'm stating that both consoles have their merits. So keep coming with the "ZOMG DIS ALL SUX." It makes you look like the 13 year old talking shit in Halo.


If you can't deal with that opinion

Kind of like you obviously couldn't handle a RRoD being posted in jest?


I'd suggest you and the rest of the ps3 crowd STFU with the goddamn litany of threads and endlessly disparaging comments that almost exclusively start these debates in the first place.

Man, you're right. It's ALWAYS the Ps3 owner's fault. The 360 gamers here have never, ever, ever posted an inflammatory thing on this forum. My god, do you have your head THAT far in the sand?

DarkReign said it best. Act like a fucking adult already.

[balli]

Fuck off dude. Quit making threads about how much the 360 sucks and before uising your gay ass little leet speak fabrications to call the 360 owners fanboys when they respond. Fucking in jest? Oh yeah. Just a big ass picture of a red ring and nothing else is sooooooooooo funny. They teach that one at Second City. Fodder for a hilarious and great thread. I obviously missed the rapier wit involved there.

Grow the fuck up yourself havoc.

[Cry Havoc]

Fuck off dude.

You aren't required to respond to me. I am, however, free to post in this thread how I please. Learn some class.


Quit making threads about how much the 360 sucks

I didn't make this thread.


and before uising your gay ass little leet speak fabrications to call the 360 owners fanboys when they respond.

Still stuck in angry 13 year old playing Halo mode, I see. "Gay ass little leet speak fabrications"? Really?


Fucking in jest? Oh yeah. Just a big ass picture of a red ring and nothing else is sooooooooooo funny.

I can see your memory needs work. It wasn't just a picture of a RRoD. It was a picture of a burnt out 360 next to an original Nintendo (circa 1986, mind you), with the caption, "Still works!" next to the NES. You know, a joke, especially since NES's themselves had a habit of dying and needing the infamous "blow & clean" method to get games to play.


Fodder for a hilarious and great thread. I obviously missed the rapier wit involved there.

Not a surprise.


Grow the fuck up yourself havoc.

Working on it, thanks. In the meantime, care to respond to my comments about how I think the 360 is a very, very good gaming console?

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

fuck the 360 controller, thing is a piece of shit

the only thing that it has going for it is the build quality

and the only remote reason I would want an xbox would be for halo 3

mass effect is fetid and dank nukka

[ynh]

True.. I guess basing which is better on numbers isn't the right way to go.. I agree the Wii isn't much of gaming platform and more of a fade.. in that same way though I'm sure many of us that had the cash largly bought the ps3 when if first came out because it was at or near the price of a stand-alone blu-ray player.

Anyways.. to each his own.. this is always a lose lose debate.. I guess the solution to these debates is simple.

Get both of them

[Mixability]

All 3 consoles do their own thing very well, that's why I have all 3. I need my Mario, my Bluray and my Halo, so it wasn't an option for me. If you have to choose one, I'd go with the PS3, but thats just because of the bluray.

[MannyIsGod]

You guys are weird. Do you argue about who has the better TV too?

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

You guys are weird. Do you argue about who has the better TV too?

Balli and Havoc PM'ed pics to Spurswoman to determine who really had the bigger screen.

[Cry Havoc]

You guys are weird. Do you argue about who has the better TV too?

Fucking ANNULAR hurricane, dammit!

[balli]

Balli and Havoc PM'ed pics to Spurswoman to determine who really had the bigger screen.

She said Hovoc's was bigger, but I knew how to use mine.

[phyzik]

You guys are weird. Do you argue about who has the better TV too?

Got a Sony Bravia 52" that has a USB port that lets me play downloaded movies off of a thumb drive. It also has internet access that I can do netflix and youtube and all kinds of other bullshit.

What you think about that shit?!?!?!?!

:lol

[LnGrrrR]

Got a Sony Bravia 52" that has a USB port that lets me play downloaded movies off of a thumb drive. It also has internet access that I can do netflix and youtube and all kinds of other bullshit.

What you think about that shit?!?!?!?!

:lol

I've got a 60 inch Pioneer Kuro.

phyzik <----- pwnt

:D

[Xevious]

My Master System kicks the shit out of your NES.

Oh wait...

[DarkReign]

My Master System kicks the shit out of your NES.

Oh wait...

:lmao

[Cry Havoc]

In other words, stop playing fucking video games all day?

I bench ~40 pounds more than I weigh, I'm training for a marathon (currently running 7:55 pace over 10 miles), and I totally schooled a 6'8" prep student in basketball yesterday (I'm 5'10"). Got three dates setting up nicely next week, and I'm quite happy with my life. Videogames are just a part of that, but they also provide very adequate stress relief and enjoyment factor.

I'm sorry, what were you saying? I love the perspective that gamers are nerds who don't do anything else other than game. That was never true, and especially not now.

[DarkReign]

In other words, stop playing fucking video games all day?

Hell no, I rock games nearly everyday and I am not nearly as personally motivated as CH in my physical fitness.

I dont give a flying fuck what that makes me. I work nearly 70 hours a week running a small business that barely kept its doors open in 2009. What I do with my free time, is my free time, because I dont have very much of it.

I work harder in a day than most of the people you know work in a week.

I kind of think you werent directing the comment at me, but if you were, I dont give a shit. I sleep 7 hours a night and work ~13 hours a day. What I do with the remaining ~4 hours of this daily life is my God damned business.

[leemajors]

See, CH can bench 190.

[Cry Havoc]

See, CH can bench 190.

Nice guess, but fail. Weighing 150 pressing 190 probably puts a person ahead of about 98% of Americans as far as physical fitness goes, though.

[leemajors]

Nice guess, but fail. Weighing 150 pressing 190 probably puts a person ahead of about 98% of Americans as far as physical fitness goes, though.

It was a joke. :lol

[baseline bum]

You guys are weird. Do you argue about who has the better TV too?

:lol

[xellos88330]

I have always been a Playstation guy after my switch from Nintendo. I love my PS3 and my Xbox but would prefer to play my PS3 more. It usually depends on what type of gaming mood I am in.

For FPS I prefer the 360 due to the controller.

For everything else I prefer the PS3.

[MannyIsGod]

Fucking ANNULAR hurricane, dammit!

Touche. Touche.

[MannyIsGod]

Got a Sony Bravia 52" that has a USB port that lets me play downloaded movies off of a thumb drive. It also has internet access that I can do netflix and youtube and all kinds of other bullshit.

What you think about that shit?!?!?!?!

:lol

I think thats some pimp ass shit as long as your shitty LCD screen can reproduce blacks at an off angle.

[lefty]

Xbox360 is so shitty is not even funny

[ynh]

In other words, stop playing fucking video games all day?

In all fairness I spend half my day playing video games and the other half masterbaiting to youporn.

And I'm about 180 and can maybe bench 50 pounds.

[Xevious]

Seriously though... who gives a shit? Nerds have been having this same argument about consoles, video cards, etc for decades now. It's unlikely that Microsoft or Sony are going anywhere anytime soon, so enjoy whichever you pick and leave everybody else alone with their decision.

[resistanze]

In all fairness I spend half my day playing video games and the other half masterbaiting to youporn.

And I'm about 180 and can maybe bench 50 pounds.

:lmao

[Cry Havoc]

Seriously though... who gives a shit? Nerds have been having this same argument about consoles, video cards, etc for decades now. It's unlikely that Microsoft or Sony are going anywhere anytime soon, so enjoy whichever you pick and leave everybody else alone with their decision.

Be...cause I enjoy gaming, it's a hobby I would even go so far as to say I have a passion for, and it's enjoyable to talk and even argue about?

Why did you join Spurstalk? People have been having the same argument about who's better in sports for decades now. It's unlikely that the NBA is going anywhere soon, so pick a team and just stay away from forums that have debates about basketball.

[I_Speak_4_Dallas_Fan]

In all fairness I spend half my day playing video games and the other half masterbaiting to youporn.

And I'm about 180 and can maybe bench 50 pounds.:lmao

[Xevious]

Be...cause I enjoy gaming, it's a hobby I would even go so far as to say I have a passion for, and it's enjoyable to talk and even argue about?

Why did you join Spurstalk? People have been having the same argument about who's better in sports for decades now. It's unlikely that the NBA is going anywhere soon, so pick a team and just stay away from forums that have debates about basketball.
That isn't the same thing at all. Sports are competitive and by nature create rivalry. Sony and Microsoft are two monopolistic (is that a word?) companies who produce a similar product in this case. Neither are on the verge of going out of business like Sega, so how does it effect you at all to advocate one over the other? Except for a few examples, most games are available on both systems. This is not like the old days of NES and Sega where most games were exclusives.

But anyway, if people enjoy the argument just because... carry on then.

Just to add my two cents to the conversation though... I dislike Sony as a company and give them as little of my money as I possibly can. That's hard to do now that they've locked up the HD DVD market. And as for the PS3 itself, I've disliked the controller since the PSX days, and they've done almost nothing to change/improve on it. All of that said, I'd probably still buy a PS3 if there were any exclusives that interested me enough.

[ATRAIN]

I played MW2 on PS3 (PSN online or whatever its called) and I have to say the competition on XBL is waaaaay more advanced. I was straight up owning everyone on there. I own on XBL but what I was doing to the PS3 noobs was just sad.

[z0sa]

The level of competition may be higher, but you'll undoubtedly find 10x more newbs on XBL.

[Cry Havoc]

That isn't the same thing at all. Sports are competitive and by nature create rivalry.

And gaming isn't competitive, and two or three competing companies don't by nature create a rivalry?


Sony and Microsoft are two monopolistic (is that a word?) companies who produce a similar product in this case.

Are two basketball teams that dissimilar from each other?


Neither are on the verge of going out of business like Sega, so how does it effect you at all to advocate one over the other?

This is still perfectly in line with my sports analogy, in my opinion. The Spurs aren't about to go out of business, so why support them over another team?


Except for a few examples, most games are available on both systems. This is not like the old days of NES and Sega where most games were exclusives.

Which is what I've been saying all along, that the 360 and the Ps3 are extremely close in terms of overall quality. It doesn't stop 360 fanboys from going, "HUR HUR PS3 SUX", though.


But anyway, if people enjoy the argument just because... carry on then.

I enjoy civil discourse if there is any to be had. I also like pointing out the stupidity of certain kinds of statements, like the above.


Just to add my two cents to the conversation though... I dislike Sony as a company and give them as little of my money as I possibly can.

So.... you dislike Sony, but you like Microsoft? One of the most nefarious businesses in the history of the US? Really?


That's hard to do now that they've locked up the HD DVD market.

Misconception. Sony wasn't/isn't the only company that was heavily invested in Blu-Ray.


And as for the PS3 itself, I've disliked the controller since the PSX days, and they've done almost nothing to change/improve on it.

I agree with that. The Ps3 controller is very good still, but it's in need of an overhaul.

[Muser]

I only have a 360, gonna get a PS3 soon though. I remember playing Ratchet and Clank on the PS2 and it was awesome.

[ATRAIN]

The level of competition may be higher, but you'll undoubtedly find 10x more newbs on XBL.

I dont know man. There are more XBL users I would assume so you are prob right but thats all I came accross on PSN.

[DisAsTerBot]

cryhavoc : biggest fanboy on spurstalk

[Cry Havoc]

cryhavoc : biggest fanboy on spurstalk

Yep. I'm a huge fan of gaming, sports, and a slew of other activities. Thanks for pointing that out. :blah

[ManuTP9]

Too many system fanboys. Can't we all just like games? I'm hoping Halo Reach will be the best of the Halo series, but part of me is afraid it'll be overhyped crap, like Halo 2. Sorry, I liked the game, but it was WAY overhyped. I guess we'll see.

[Muser]

Will the new Halo have a decent final boss? I don't want to fight a small fliying orb again.

[ATRAIN]

Too many system fanboys. Can't we all just like games? I'm hoping Halo Reach will be the best of the Halo series, but part of me is afraid it'll be overhyped crap, like Halo 2. Sorry, I liked the game, but it was WAY overhyped. I guess we'll see.

HALO 2 was not overhyped!! Take that back!!!!

[phyzik]

The entire Halo franchise is overhyped.

[Xevious]

And gaming isn't competitive, and two or three competing companies don't by nature create a rivalry?

This is still perfectly in line with my sports analogy, in my opinion. The Spurs aren't about to go out of business, so why support them over another team?
I don't see the comparison. There is a winner and loser in sports. Determining which video game system is "better" is a matter of opinion. Or I guess you could look up number of units sold or something like that, which I have no idea about or interest in.



Which is what I've been saying all along, that the 360 and the Ps3 are extremely close in terms of overall quality. It doesn't stop 360 fanboys from going, "HUR HUR PS3 SUX", though.Plenty of blame to go around on that one. As I said before, nerds have been arguing about this crap for decades (yes, I consider myself one too).



So.... you dislike Sony, but you like Microsoft? One of the most nefarious businesses in the history of the US? Really?Really. And yes, I understand the irony. But I have my reasons.



Misconception. Sony wasn't/isn't the only company that was heavily invested in Blu-Ray.But they are heavily invested.



I agree with that. The Ps3 controller is very good still, but it's in need of an overhaul.:toast

[Xevious]

The entire Halo franchise is overhyped.
+1000000000000000

Completely average FPS IMO. The only thing about it I really liked, talking about the original here, was the fact that it was coop during a time when coop games were hard to come by.

[ecksrobecks]

i have all the game consoles but my ps3 gets the most use. 360 hardly has any exclusives i can't play on my pc

[eyeh8u]

And as for the PS3 itself, I've disliked the controller since the PSX days, and they've done almost nothing to change/improve on it. All of that said, I'd probably still buy a PS3 if there were any exclusives that interested me enough.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/01/how-to-make-a-ps360-controller/

[redzero]

Why do people still bitch about which console is better like it really matters?

I have both and I couldn't care less about which is better.

[Udokafan05]

I got PS3 yesterday since my 360 died. The picture is a lot better on the PS3.

[Fpoonsie]

3D Movie Playback for the PS3 in September Share24 Posted July 9, 2010 05:19 AM by Juan Calonge


As previously reported, the PlayStation 3 is receiving 3D support in several stages: game support came first, thanks to firmware version 3.30 (released in April), while 3D Blu-ray movie playback was scheduled later in the year. Now a more specific timeframe has been revealed: this update will be ready in September.

Yet another future firmware update will enable 3D photo compatibility, to display the pictures taken with the two new Sony Cyber-shot cameras that take panoramic 3D pictures.

link (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4852)

:stirpot:

[z0sa]

I think, in terms of everything except XBL (which you pay for), PS3 > 360. Most of my friends' 360's turn off and overheat (or are at risk to any moment) after 4-5 hours of gameplay, for example; I sometimes watch movies and play games on PS3 for literally 12-14 hours at a time (it's left on).

The resolution is noticeably better, and it plays Blu-Rays.

The online, while semi-shitty and lacking in "buyables", is also free.

The biggest issue I have is actually the controller. On FPS, the xbox layout is much better. That said, we all know console fps is several levels below PC gaming anyway.

Let's not forget the considerably better price tag since even the cheapest models come standard with blu-ray/120 gig HDD.

Overall, PS3 truly is > the 360.

[z0sa]

I think, in terms of everything except XBL (which you pay for), PS3 > 360. Most of my friends' 360's turn off and overheat (or are at risk to any moment) after 4-5 hours of gameplay, for example; I sometimes watch movies and play games on PS3 for literally 12-14 hours at a time (it's left on).

The resolution is noticeably better, and it plays Blu-Rays.

The online, while semi-shitty and lacking in "buyables", is also free.

The biggest issue I have is actually the controller. On FPS, the xbox layout is much better. That said, we all know console fps is several levels below PC gaming anyway.

Let's not forget the considerably better price tag since even the cheapest models come standard with blu-ray/120 gig HDD.

Overall, PS3 truly is > the 360.

[resistanze]

Neat. Although I'll probably never utilize this feature as I don't ever plan to buy a 3D HDTV unless it becomes a standard in the industry (i.e: no premium costs). And really, I'd only use it for games or for some movies.

[Fpoonsie]

Neat. Although I'll probably never utilize this feature as I don't ever plan to buy a 3D HDTV unless it becomes a standard in the industry (i.e: no premium costs). And really, I'd only use it for games or for some movies.

Oh, no doubt. I have absolutely NO need for a 3D upgrade as I just recently switched out all my DVDs for BluRays and I'll be GODDAMNED if I'm doing it again for atleast another decade.

Just thought it was cool for those that might be able to take advantage.

[balli]

Fuck Blu-Ray. Fuck 3d.

Blu-ray is a crappier format than HD-DVD that happened to win out because it had a cooler name. Sony's lucky for the time being that they have a semi-monopoly over the shit, but really, who cares. It's already dated, shitty and has always been overpriced technology. The concepts of overpriced hardware and overpriced physical discs are going or have already gone by the wayside. The future is in streaming. Physical media is dying.

I'm not interested in 3d in general. I'm not wearing goggles, ever, when sitting around watching TV or playing games. And who cares if PS3 supports it, before the time that insufferable shit becomes mainstream, 360 will support it too.

[BlairForceDejuan]

Yeah, I do not have one iota of interest whatsoever in 3d tech for personal entertainment setup.

[scott]

I have both which makes it tough to decide which console I want to buy games on. Recently I've been buying on PS3 because that's where a lot of my friends play. For NCAA and Madden 11 I may have to go with the 360 though.

I like that PS3 has a built in BluRay, but it's a pretty subpar BD player in terms of picture and sound quality. So I have a stand alone BluRay also.

[eyeh8u]

Fuck Blu-Ray. Fuck 3d.

Blu-ray is a crappier format than HD-DVD that happened to win out because it had a cooler name. Sony's lucky for the time being that they have a semi-monopoly over the shit, but really, who cares. It's already dated, shitty and has always been overpriced technology. The concepts of overpriced hardware and overpriced physical discs are going or have already gone by the wayside. The future is in streaming. Physical media is dying.

I'm not interested in 3d in general. I'm not wearing goggles, ever, when sitting around watching TV or playing games. And who cares if PS3 supports it, before the time that insufferable shit becomes mainstream, 360 will support it too.



are you lips on Microsoft's ass or cock?

[z0sa]

Fuck Blu-Ray. Fuck 3d.

Blu-ray is a crappier format than HD-DVD that happened to win out because it had a cooler name. Sony's lucky for the time being that they have a semi-monopoly over the shit, but really, who cares. It's already dated, shitty and has always been overpriced technology. The concepts of overpriced hardware and overpriced physical discs are going or have already gone by the wayside. The future is in streaming. Physical media is dying.

I'm not interested in 3d in general. I'm not wearing goggles, ever, when sitting around watching TV or playing games. And who cares if PS3 supports it, before the time that insufferable shit becomes mainstream, 360 will support it too.


What a stupid cunt.

[balli]

What a stupid cunt.

You sniveling little bitch. Cry some more about video games, butthurt little faggot.

[z0sa]

Fuck Blu-Ray. Fuck 3d.

Blu-ray is a crappier format than HD-DVD that happened to win out because it had a cooler name. Sony's lucky for the time being that they have a semi-monopoly over the shit, but really, who cares. It's already dated, shitty and has always been overpriced technology. The concepts of overpriced hardware and overpriced physical discs are going or have already gone by the wayside. The future is in streaming. Physical media is dying.

I'm not interested in 3d in general. I'm not wearing goggles, ever, when sitting around watching TV or playing games. And who cares if PS3 supports it, before the time that insufferable shit becomes mainstream, 360 will support it too.


You sniveling little bitch. Cry some more about video games, butthurt little faggot.


What a stupid cunt.


Who sounds more like they're sobbing uncontrollably? :lol

[balli]

Who sounds more like they're sobbing uncontrollably? :lol

The loser who called me a cunt because I think physical media and 3D aren't worth my money.

(but really called me a cunt because he's a butthurt crying little faggot who can't get over the fact that I own his bitch ass on the regular.)

[z0sa]

The loser who called me a cunt because I think physical media and 3D aren't worth my money.

No. I called you a stupid cunt because you

1) are stupid

2) gladly get fucked by a myriad dispersal of different people's opinions and products

[z0sa]

btw, nice job ignoring eye8u while getting all butthurt over my comment :lol

[balli]

No. I called you a stupid cunt because you

1) are stupid

2) gladly get fucked by a myriad dispersal of different people's opinions and products
Yep. alright. Well, just so you know, your hilarious levels of faggy butthurtedness don't go unnoticed...


Judging by the way you get bukkaked in every other argument, you should probably slow down with the whole "My opinion is right" stance. After all, it's not every day someone gets rolled on by Ballijuana.


zosa got splooooooooadddateed!!!!!!!!

And for the record. I don't 'roll on' anybody but you and crookshanks. And the two quoted above fucking loathe me, absolutely hate me, therfore they're objective as it gets. So anyway, reflect on those two facts and reflect on the fact people notice how much you cry like a bitchmade little girl. Cry some more, cry yourself to sleep. Keep crying. Sweet dreams, little bitch.

[Cry Havoc]

The loser who called me a cunt because I think physical media and 3D aren't worth my money.

Since when is the Xbox 360 free of physical media? You're saying "Fuck the Ps3" because it uses physical media, while touting the 360 as a superior system?

An odd bit of logic, to say the least.

[z0sa]

lol saving quotes about me

lol using Greg Oden and igotnokock as evidence for anything

lol not noticing Greg Oden pwned you in that sentence :lol

[z0sa]

An odd bit of logic, to say the least.

What else would you expect from a stupid cunt?

[balli]

you're saying Fuck the Ps3" because it uses physical media, while touting the 360 as a superior system
I didn't tout or say 'fuck' anything. I said 'who cares'? I barely mentioned 360, in relation to 3D.

If you like blu-ray, fine, enjoy. I prefer streaming 1080p over Netflix, in the coming years I anticipate streaming anything and everything. Enjoy driving down to Best Buy to drop $35 bucks on discs.

[z0sa]

I didn't tout or say 'fuck' anything.


Fuck Blu-Ray. Fuck 3d.

:lol what a stupid cunt.

[balli]

Did I say 'fuck the ps3' you ass retarded piece of shit?

[z0sa]

What don't you understand about the contradictory nature of those two quotes, stupid cunt?

[Fpoonsie]

I didn't tout or say 'fuck' anything. I said 'who cares'? I barely mentioned 360, in relation to 3D.

If you like blu-ray, fine, enjoy. I prefer streaming 1080p over Netflix, in the coming years I anticipate streaming anything and everything. Enjoy driving down to Best Buy to drop $35 bucks on discs.

Outta curiosity, where do you stream 1080p from? I use the Netflix PS3 streaming and it works well enough. Kinda wondered what I might be missing out on...

For the record, I've bought prolly 75% of my BluRays from Movie Trading Co for half the price after trading in numerous DVDs.

[Wild Cobra]

Fuck Blu-Ray. Fuck 3d.

Blu-ray is a crappier format than HD-DVD that happened to win out because it had a cooler name.


What a stupid cunt.
Yes, he is.

Blue ray has a higher data rate and 25 gigabytes per layer vs. 15 gigabytes per layer for HD-DVD.

That's why it's better. There is no denying the measurable facts. the standard hoes up to four layers, or 100 gigabytes. I may be wrong, but I think the limit for HD-DVD is 3 layers, or 45 gigabytes.

[Nathan Explosion]

Outta curiosity, where do you stream 1080p from? I use the Netflix PS3 streaming and it works well enough. Kinda wondered what I might be missing out on...

Netflix on the 360 streams a lot of movies in HD. Netflix has a tab on the website where you can look up movies that are in HD and using an HDMI cable with the 360 gets you 1080p. If your computer and monitor is capable, you can watch HD movies on your computer as well.

When you watch a movie in HD just check your setting using the display. Mine always says 1080p.

[Wild Cobra]

Netflix on the 360 streams a lot of movies in HD. Netflix has a tab on the website where you can look up movies that are in HD and using an HDMI cable with the 360 gets you 1080p. If your computer and monitor is capable, you can watch HD movies on your computer as well.

When you watch a movie in HD just check your setting using the display. Mine always says 1080p.
Yes, anything it converted to 1080P, so are my DVD's from my bluray player. My question is, what is the signal sent in? It could be 1080i in the data stream, but it will get unconverted. Then there is the distortion from compression if it's packed too tight.

I wonder if it would be worth it for me to keep my Samsung Bluray player connected to the internet, and pay for Netfix. It's built in for easy access.

Is it as clear as a Bluray disk?

[Cry Havoc]

Netflix on the 360 streams a lot of movies in HD. Netflix has a tab on the website where you can look up movies that are in HD and using an HDMI cable with the 360 gets you 1080p. If your computer and monitor is capable, you can watch HD movies on your computer as well.

When you watch a movie in HD just check your setting using the display. Mine always says 1080p.

You're probably streaming an upconverted version. A true 1080p version of a movie will run over 20 gigs. I doubt Netflix is going to push that kind of data, and either way, I seriously doubt you're going to match the audio fidelity when you stream. Blu-Ray plays lossless audio, which is the best format short of a high quality vinyl record (and actually I haven't looked at the sampling rate of a Blu-Ray disc so this is a guess).

[Wild Cobra]

You're probably streaming an upconverted version.
that's where the quality degrades, as it gets compressed.

A true 1080p version of a movie will run over 20 gigs.
Exactly. Bluray... one layer... HD-DVD... two layers...

Cheaper to make a one layer BluRay than a two layer HD-DVD.

I doubt Netflix is going to push that kind of data, and either way, I seriously doubt you're going to match the audio fidelity when you stream.
It's hard to say, and why I'm asking. If they compress it less than cable companies do, it might be a decent picture. I still doubt it comes close to a real 1080P signal though.

[z0sa]

Yes, he is.

Blue ray has a higher data rate and 25 gigabytes per layer vs. 15 gigabytes per layer for HD-DVD.

That's why it's better. There is no denying the measurable facts. the standard hoes up to four layers, or 100 gigabytes. I may be wrong, but I think the limit for HD-DVD is 3 layers, or 45 gigabytes.

Logic doesn't work on balli. He's as emotion-based as a preggo.

[DarkReign]

From what I have read, BluRay won mostly because of the video game market. Much like how VHS won out over BETA because of the porn industry, BluRay beat HDDVD because Sony included a BluRay player on their system while Microsoft took forever just to sell a HDDVD player as a separate and expensive add-on.

Honestly, I never cared. But my wife did. She bought me a HDDVD player about a month before the official announcement that BluRay had won. She brought it home, all excited and giddy...I opened it and said as nicely as possible "Honey, HDDVD lost the format war. They wont even be making DVDs for this in a couple months." She was crushed.

[resistanze]

Honestly, I never cared. But my wife did. She bought me a HDDVD player about a month before the official announcement that BluRay had won. She brought it home, all excited and giddy...I opened it and said as nicely as possible "Honey, HDDVD lost the format war. They wont even be making DVDs for this in a couple months." She was crushed.

:lol

[koriwhat]

damn there's a ton of experts in here not making a dime on their rainman type knowledge.