Underachievers (BUMP documentary)

[BUMP]

Trading Howard for Butler, Stephenson, and Haywood along with getting Marion in the offseason for the talent they alredy had and not getting out of the 1st round is pretty embarassing.

This team is not far off, Is a major overhaul necessary? It all starts with the superstar. A true superstar will not only rally to the occasion but make his teammates better in the process. Its like he squeezes a victory out of his team. Does Dirk do that?

You only have to look at the Lakers to realize that. Kobe. The perfect superstar. Look at how they played in game 5. They didn't play scared or nervous because it was 2-2 they put the foot on their throats and made OKC know who the better team was.

Kobe wanted Westbrook and then made Durant work on the defensive end thus taking them BOTH out of the game. He just refuses to lose. You could also say the same thing about Tim Duncan in his prime years. He did the exact same thing Kobe does now.

The tenacity (on offense and defense), the fearless attitude, and refusing to lose is what the Mavs have been missing for all these years......and it starts with their superstar

[Giuseppe]

You only have to look at the Lakers to realize that. Kobe. The perfect superstar. Look at how they played in game 5. They didn't play scared or nervous because it was 2-2

I was scared & nervous enough for everybody.

Luva though, he never batted an eyelash. Cool as a cucumber. Just like shaved pussy.

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BUMP, you & Cuban need to start over. It's over, kid.

[Giuseppe]

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[Giuseppe]

the fearless attitude

Grand point. And who legitimately has it aside from Bryant? Manu, Duncan, Daddy, some people in Boston.

That's it.

[in2deep]

you mavs were doing allright and did the right moves. You just faced the wrong team at the wrong time. The Spurs would have beaten anyone in this 1st round. ANYONE.

Spurs are the most dangerous team in the league right now.

[BUMP]

Grand point. And who legitimately has it aside from Bryant? Manu, Duncan, Daddy, some people in Boston.

That's it.

I would say Lebron as well.

And to add to my point. A true superstar wants to control both ends of the floor. When the Mavs were getting killed on PnRs all series did Dirk ever step up and say "I want Duncan?" Did anybody say "I want Ginobli?" This is what they're missing. IDK how many times over the past few years ive seen 6 ft2 Parker drive right at 7ft Nowitzki for an uncontested layup with no attempt to block the shot. That's pathetic.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

you mavs were doing allright and did the right moves. You just faced the wrong team at the wrong time. The Spurs would have beaten anyone in this 1st round. ANYONE.

Spurs are the most dangerous team in the league right now.


Wow you're retarded. Do Dangerous teams generally blow 22 point leads?

[djohn2oo8]

Wow you're retarded. Do Dangerous teams generally blow 22 point leads?

:lmao

[in2deep]

Wow you're retarded. Do Dangerous teams generally blow 22 point leads?

nice. calling names. how old are you?

They are a dangerous team in a playoff series, they will "steal" games. By steal I mean, even if they play crappy, don't shoot well, they will make it ugly and come up with the win.

You will see soon enough sunfan.

[Giuseppe]

Spurs are the most dangerous team in the league right now.

Right next to the Celtics.

[Giuseppe]

nice. calling names. how old are you?

He's 20 and gives great blow jobs.

[djohn2oo8]

quick question: If the Spurs are the most dangerous team in the league, then they could beat Cleveland or Orlando in a 7 game series?

[Giuseppe]

quick question: If the Spurs are the most dangerous team in the league, then they could beat Cleveland or Orlando in a 7 game series?

They won't be there. Boston will, and the Spurs could beat Boston.

[DPG21920]

*meow*

[nkdlunch]

quick question: If the Spurs are the most dangerous team in the league, then they could beat Cleveland or Orlando in a 7 game series?

could they? sure they could.

[lefty]

Kitty Kitty

[j.dizzle]

LOL you know whats funny, I think PHX played better defense then Dallas in the 1st round hahaha. Dirk is a great player but I think he only played defense on Duncan a couple times plus Dampier & Haywood are average players that are offensively challenged...Like I said before, Dallas isnt built correctly..They need another player that can get easy baskets..Terry or Butler will never be good enough to be second options.

[DAF86]

I agree, Dirk is a monster shooting the ball and his choker label is highly undeserved, but his playing style hurts his team some times. He's below average defensively and on offense he negates second chance oportunities by taking a big man presence out of the paint. And as good as he is shooting the ball, he is just as awful passing it, he is not the kind of star player that makes his teammates better.

[badfish22]

How is he awful passing it? He had 4 assist and 1 TO last night. Plus, while his is just an average defender, his D looked pretty good last night. Kidd, on the other hand.......

[DPG21920]

Hating on Dirk is silly. He is not the problem.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

nice. calling names. how old are you?

They are a dangerous team in a playoff series, they will "steal" games. By steal I mean, even if they play crappy, don't shoot well, they will make it ugly and come up with the win.

You will see soon enough sunfan.


Sorry to burst your bubble but I'd rather play the Spurs than the Cavs. They're peaking at the right time, but they're not "the most dangerous" team right now.

[dbestpro]

LOL you know whats funny, I think PHX played better defense then Dallas in the 1st round hahaha. Dirk is a great player but I think he only played defense on Duncan a couple times plus Dampier & Haywood are average players that are offensively challenged...Like I said before, Dallas isnt built correctly..They need another player that can get easy baskets..Terry or Butler will never be good enough to be second options.

Imagine if Nash had stayed in Dallas all these years. I wonder how different things would be?

[antgomez2009]

Wow you're retarded. Do Dangerous teams generally blow 22 point leads?


well, lets see, when your playing the best road team in the NBA, and they are facing elimination, and have a guy named dirk that can score on anybody! Then a 22 point lead doesnt mean nothing unless you win by 22!

You have to respect your opponent to actually be better prepared to win! the spurs knew the Mavs were going to make a run, and Roddy "the fearless maverick" is going off, it'll happen!

If your a basketball person, which most of you here are not, then you know that the West is competitive, and the Lakers (defending champs) is the team to go through to have a chance in the finals! whether they make it to the WCF or not, thats their problem, but they are the defending champs and until they are knocked out, then they have the upper hand!

i do believe the winner out of Suns/Spurs can take on the winner of Utah/Denver Lakers/Thunder!
The laker team is not getting younger, and Kobe needs to play at a high level with a arthritic finger! so that makes them vunerable already! but each team has questions that need to be answered by playing games!



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[Muser]

That Marion contract is gonna hurt.

[pad300]

quick question: If the Spurs are the most dangerous team in the league, then they could beat Cleveland or Orlando in a 7 game series?

Could?

Yeah.


I won't say will, but could, yeah. Call it at least 30% shot vs Orlando, and 25% vs Cavs (the match ups seem a little worse vs the cavs, and they get a little extra loving from the refs...).

[ChumpDumper]

quick question: If the Spurs are the most dangerous team in the league, then they could beat Cleveland or Orlando in a 7 game series?Could?

Yes.

That was an easy question.

[badfish22]

That Marion contract is gonna hurt.

He gave him that hoping that it would make Marion focus on D and sacrifice his offense for the good of the team. Unfortunately, Shawn "Me>Melo" Marion still chunked up a few too many shots. How he missed that many layups is beyond me.

But yeah that contract was gonna hurt regardless. How bad will he be in 3 years? :wow

[Ghazi]

Dumb thread trying to pin this on Dirk due to some intangible factors you can't prove exist.

Story of this series is the Mavs backcourt was severely outplayed by the Spurs. Barea/JET/Kidd <<< Hill/Parker/Ginobili.

[TFloss32]

Wow you're retarded. Do Dangerous teams generally blow 22 point leads?

DoK, the Spurs are notorious for blowing big leads and have been for the past decade. That's nothing new.

I think the Spurs lack of performance in the Dallas series speaks volumes about their team. They played ONE game as a cohesive unit (Game 2) and they wiped the floor with the Mavs that night. Other than that, they didn't play all that well. At the beginning of this series, if you had told me that the Spurs win Game 3 without hitting a three-pointer and win Game 4 with Ginobili/Parker/Duncan going 9-34...I would've said you're crazy.

The role players (i.e. Hill, McDyess, Blair) picking up the slack is what has this team glaring with potential and has some calling them "dangerous." Doesn't mean they're going anywhere, though.

[Bartleby]

I think the Spurs lack of performance in the Dallas series speaks volumes about their team. They played ONE game as a cohesive unit (Game 2) and they wiped the floor with the Mavs that night. Other than that, they didn't play all that well. At the beginning of this series, if you had told me that the Spurs win Game 3 without hitting a three-pointer and win Game 4 with Ginobili/Parker/Duncan going 9-34...I would've said you're crazy.

The role players (i.e. Hill, McDyess, Blair) picking up the slack is what has this team glaring with potential and has some calling them "dangerous."

Right. We haven't seen the Spurs play their 'A' game in the playoffs yet.

They've had some strong quarters and closed out games well, but they still haven't had one of those games where everything is clicking. If the role players can step it up, I think they can take it to another level.

[badfish22]

Dirk,Caron,Roddy- 74 points, 29-52
the rest- 13 points, 6-28

[badfish22]

They've had some strong quarters and closed out games well, but they still haven't had one of those games where everything is clicking. If the role players can step it up, I think they can take it to another level.

1. Game two?
2. George Hill has definitely stepped up. When the big three kinda got worn out a bit, Hill killed us. Although thats partly due to the worst trio of perimeter defenders maybe in the league, that doesn't take away from the shots he was making. Seems like a tough kid.