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DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 06:07 PM
Texas turns down pac10 and A&M turns down SEC.

Big 12 will remain intact with just 10 teams. They are not looking to add to the puzzle.

UT/A&M/OU will all get payed around $20 mil annually which is more than double than what OU and A&M were making before. UT will also have their own network which is estimated to bring them an extra 3-5 mil annually. The remaining 7 teams in the big 12 will also see pay increases and are estimated to make around $12 mil annually. For example Baylor made around $6-7 mil last year and this new deal will also double their revenue.

Since it will just be 10 teams left in the conference, the championship game has also been ruled out.

All this speculation for nothing. At least its over

manufan10
06-14-2010, 06:20 PM
Here's the link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5286672

Pistons < Spurs
06-14-2010, 06:23 PM
Thank goodness!

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 06:23 PM
billyliucci-twitter

1. Per A&M sources, A&M to remain in Big 12. Just to clarify for those wondering. 16 minutes ago via web




# As far as new B12 TV contracts go...A&M, Texas and OU will all get over $20-million per 5 minutes ago via web


http://twitter.com/billyliucci

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 06:24 PM
Thank goodness!

you can now breathe a sigh of relief KU fan! :lol

Obstructed_View
06-14-2010, 06:24 PM
I think I've said this already, but I love that the Pac-10 leaves this whole thing with Colorado. They deserve this the same way USC deserves Rick Neuheisel. :lol

Pistons < Spurs
06-14-2010, 06:30 PM
Now how do we get back to 12 teams?

Whisky Dog
06-14-2010, 06:30 PM
LOL, I guess Chip was right. Awesome UT going to have their own network and now aggie can stop borrowing money from their academic funds. I gotta think not having a title game will hurt, but then again OSU got in twice in a row with no title game.

So now we're basically the big 10 and the big 10 is the big 12 with a title game and Nebraska's whiny ass.

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 06:31 PM
Looks like Fox Sports brought the new TV deal for the big 12 not ESPN. Also will be equal sharing among A&M/UT/OU


billyliucci-TWITTER

1. Couple of other notes: Fox Sports apparently doing the TV deal...equal revenue sharing between A&M, Texas, OU less than 10 seconds ago via web

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 06:33 PM
Now how do we get back to 12 teams?

not going to it looks like. They're going to keep just the 10 teams. Mainly for $ reasons. They don't want to split up the revenue anymore than they have to. UT/A&M/OU just received a major pay day.

Obstructed_View
06-14-2010, 06:36 PM
not going to it looks like. They're going to keep just the 10 teams. Mainly for $ reasons. They don't want to split up the revenue anymore than they have to. UT/A&M/OU just received a major pay day.

Everyone just received a major payday. The best case scenario for some of those teams was Conference USA if things had continued.

<- For instance. :lol

Whisky Dog
06-14-2010, 06:37 PM
I like how ESPN spins their completely off, false reports from earlier today by implying they were right but Powers changed his mind. Rofl, Chip scooped ESPN what else is new.

Pistons < Spurs
06-14-2010, 06:39 PM
not going to it looks like. They're going to keep just the 10 teams. Mainly for $ reasons. They don't want to split up the revenue anymore than they have to. UT/A&M/OU just received a major pay day.

I can't believe the long term plans are to remain at 10 teams. For the time being it will work, but I fully expect them to be looking for a couple of schools to improve the quality of the conference.

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 06:39 PM
I like how ESPN spins their completely off, false reports from earlier today by implying they were right but Powers changed his mind. Rofl, Chip scooped ESPN what else is new.

After this past week, I am not sure what passes as a "source" anymore. ESPN is a joke.

Whisky Dog
06-14-2010, 06:40 PM
Everyone just received a major payday. The best case scenario for some of those teams was Conference USA if things had continued.

<- For instance. :lol

Yep, UT, aggie and okie were going to get paid regardless. It's the Baylor, KSU, and KUs that got their asses pulled out of the fire and got a big raise. So does this mean no more north and south and everyone will just play each other?

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 06:41 PM
I can't believe the long term plans are to remain at 10 teams. For the time being it will work, but I fully expect them to be looking for a couple of schools to improve the quality of the conference.

If big money making programs came calling I'm sure the B12 would look at expanding but no way they take on the likes of TCU/Houston/Memphis or any schools like that. Also, If they do end up expanding, It will most likely be schools outside of the state of Texas.

Obstructed_View
06-14-2010, 06:41 PM
I can't believe the long term plans are to remain at 10 teams. For the time being it will work, but I fully expect them to be looking for a couple of schools to improve the quality of the conference.

Probably, but there's no reason to hurry. If they do it right, they can attract whoever they want down the road. I've suggested TCU and Houston, but there's just no need to do that at this point.

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 06:42 PM
Everyone just received a major payday. The best case scenario for some of those teams was Conference USA if things had continued.

<- For instance. :lol

:lol very true. Baylor is ecstatic right now. That's for sure.

Obstructed_View
06-14-2010, 06:43 PM
Yep, UT, aggie and okie were going to get paid regardless. It's the Baylor, KSU, and KUs that got their asses pulled out of the fire and got a big raise. So does this mean no more north and south and everyone will just play each other?

It's like the old southwest conference. This could be entertaining. Time to invite the northerners into the rivalry.

Obstructed_View
06-14-2010, 06:43 PM
:lol very true. Baylor is ecstatic right now. That's for sure.

Especially after reports surfaced that TCU was going to submarine them. :lol

Amarelooms
06-14-2010, 06:44 PM
Time to add some teams.....get stronger

:elephant

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 07:03 PM
It's like the old southwest conference. This could be entertaining. Time to invite the northerners into the rivalry.

Definitely going to be weird. I just hate the fact that their is no championship game. Oh well. Teams are going to need and start scheduling a tougher non-conference schedule.

SpursNextRomanEmpire
06-14-2010, 07:04 PM
If they dont add any new teams what will they call this new conference?

Obstructed_View
06-14-2010, 07:07 PM
Definitely going to be weird. I just hate the fact that their is no championship game. Oh well. Teams are going to need and start scheduling a tougher non-conference schedule.

That's exactly why I love the idea of no championship game, which sacrificed football for an extra chance to generate revenue.

Marklar MM
06-14-2010, 07:08 PM
Well it looks like the rest of the big12 puckered and gave Texas what they wanted.

Obstructed_View
06-14-2010, 07:08 PM
If they dont add any new teams what will they call this new conference?

The Big 10 now has 12 teams. Time for an over/under on the number of years before the conference picks up corporate naming rights? I'm personally hoping for "The Tostitos Conference."

Obstructed_View
06-14-2010, 07:09 PM
Well it looks like the rest of the big12 puckered and gave Texas what they wanted.

It's possible this was always just UT leveraging the Big 12 to get what they wanted. As it currently sits, this situation couldn't have worked out better for anyone.

brettn
06-14-2010, 07:09 PM
This is glorious news!

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 07:12 PM
That's exactly why I love the idea of no championship game, which sacrificed football for an extra chance to generate revenue.

A&M has already taken some sort of initiative. It was always Texas who loved playing the cream puffs OOC besides that 2 game Ohio St. series. A&M already scheduled Arkansas for the next 10 years and have Oregon and USC both on the schedule in the coming years but yes, it will be exciting seeing better competition coming in out of conference.

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 07:14 PM
The Big 10 now has 12 teams. Time for an over/under on the number of years before the conference picks up corporate naming rights? I'm personally hoping for "The Tostitos Conference."

Just bring back the old SWC name. :lol

MajorMike
06-14-2010, 07:15 PM
Isn't funny how Osbourne and Neb constantly bitched about the B12 champ game, now they go to a conf that didn't have one but will now and the B12 won't. lol

DesignatedT
06-14-2010, 07:15 PM
It's possible this was always just UT leveraging the Big 12 to get what they wanted. As it currently sits, this situation couldn't have worked out better for anyone.

I think it was FSN who finally realized what they needed to do. The big12 had nothing to offer without getting a new TV deal.

NFO
06-14-2010, 09:01 PM
Now how do we get back to 12 teams?

You invite 2 more teams.

scott
06-14-2010, 09:47 PM
The Super-Conferences was our best hope to get to a playoff system. Now the old guard will remain. Lame.

Blake
06-14-2010, 09:53 PM
The Super-Conferences was our best hope to get to a playoff system. Now the old guard will remain. Lame.

from that aspect I tend to agree somewhat in the short term.......inevitably though I think a playoff system has to happen

Blake
06-14-2010, 09:57 PM
The remaining 7 teams in the big 12 will also see pay increases and are estimated to make around $12 mil annually. For example Baylor made around $6-7 mil last year and this new deal will also double their revenue.




The other seven schools in the Big 12 would make between $14 million and $17 million, doubling what they currently receive in TV revenue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5286672

Dr. Gonzo
06-14-2010, 09:59 PM
Now how do we get back to 12 teams?

4 letters answer that question....

U
T
S
A

lebomb
06-14-2010, 10:01 PM
4 letters answer that question....

U
T
S
A

Sure wont be the Islanders..........you faggots dont HAVE a football team, or even one in anyones wetdreams ........... :hat

Dr. Gonzo
06-14-2010, 10:02 PM
How many games have the ChodeRunners played?

lebomb
06-14-2010, 10:04 PM
How many games have the ChodeRunners played?

Put it this way, by the end of 2011........ a WHOLE lot more than yall. :lol

Dr. Gonzo
06-14-2010, 10:05 PM
Put it this way, by the end of 2011........ a WHOLE lot more than yall. :lol

45 years and finally a football team. That's really something to be proud of.

lebomb
06-14-2010, 10:09 PM
45 years and finally a football team. That's really something to be proud of.

You stupid shit.......TAMCC was founded in 1947 and there is still no football team. Have a good night sleep. :lmao

samikeyp
06-14-2010, 10:10 PM
Just bring back the old SWC name. :lol

:tu

Ignignokt
06-15-2010, 02:02 AM
It's official.

Gtownspur e-spooged Chip Brown in da mouf and Chip Brown snowballed the remainder of it to DMX7.


gtownspur >>>>>>>>>> Chip Brown.

lebomb
06-15-2010, 06:40 AM
Personally, I think the Big 12 will be worse no matter what now. They basically lost Nebraska and Colorado. Who will the Big 12 pick up now that would be better? This was a classic FAIL if you ask me.

Kermit
06-15-2010, 07:42 AM
This whole episode fucking sucks.

lol Texas being pussies and remaining status quo.
lol Rice as their best OOC game.
lol Chip Brown.
lol Geoff Ketchum
lol anyone who pays for their shit
lol utsa football.
lol A&M trying to have balls and then pussying out as well

I would say Nebraska won but they're fucked as well. Have to pay buy out. Won't get equal share of Big 10 money for years. Are going to get ass-raped in Big 10 football.

Dr. Gonzo
06-15-2010, 08:17 AM
You stupid shit.......TAMCC was founded in 1947 and there is still no football team. Have a good night sleep. :lmao

If you knew shit you would know that it was a Graduate school until around 1994 then it turned into a 4 year school. So it has only been around for 16 years. Plus they focus on academics and give 2 shits about a glorified division 2 school.

jb4g
06-15-2010, 08:58 AM
I got the impression TX and OU were in no hurry to get back to 12 teams, the coaches hate the championship game

I dont think this agreement ensures the long time health of the Big 12. There is still a huge disparity in revenue between the top and bottom half of the conference, which is what started this shit to begin with. I expect we will revisist this issue in the next 5 years.

Lol @ Mizzou, talking all that shit then crawling back to daddy TX with its tail between its legs.

lebomb
06-15-2010, 09:00 AM
If you knew shit you would know that it was a Graduate school until around 1994 then it turned into a 4 year school. So it has only been around for 16 years. Plus they focus on academics and give 2 shits about a glorified division 2 school.

LMAO acting like TAMCC is some sort of Ivy league school. Plus, ya have no football, so STFU and root for UT like everyone else. :wakeup

rjv
06-15-2010, 09:25 AM
jerry jones is now wooing the pac 10 to fill the void of the big XII title game!

great news though. it is nice to see some of the traditions of the old SWC survive and for what the big XII had started to continue forward.

see ya buff and huskers !

Marklar MM
06-15-2010, 10:30 AM
This whole episode fucking sucks.

lol Texas being pussies and remaining status quo.
lol Rice as their best OOC game.
lol Chip Brown.
lol Geoff Ketchum
lol anyone who pays for their shit
lol utsa football.
lol A&M trying to have balls and then pussying out as well

I would say Nebraska won but they're fucked as well. Have to pay buy out. Won't get equal share of Big 10 money for years. Are going to get ass-raped in Big 10 football.

2 winners...Nebraska and Texas.

Nebraska joins a stable conference, increases revenue, will be an equal partner, and don't have to deal with Texas.

Texas gets what they have wanted for years (own network), no CCG, they lose the only program that would stick up to them (Nebraska), and once again get a lions share of conference revenue.

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 11:52 AM
:lmao at saying A&M pussied out. Considering how we've performed in relation to OU and the sips since 2000, the fact that this new deal is getting us equal $(20 mil annually) which almost triples are revenue from last year shows who really held the cards (having another option to bolt for SEC)

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 11:54 AM
Texas Tech is actually the only team that hasn't officially agreed yet. Their BOR are meeting today to make an official decision. If they somehow still have a Pac10 offer they could stir this up :lol

TFloss32
06-15-2010, 11:57 AM
I'll believe this whole thing when the ink is dry. Dan Beebe is bascially spouting off projections and assumptions at this point as no official contracts are even in place. He and DeLoss Dodds have two completely different objectives at this point. One is trying to save his job/ass and the other is trying to cement his legacy. Texas is just positioning themselves favorably until they can get the Longhorn Network up and running and then realignment will be discussed. Texas has no intentions of going anywhere until that's settled because they can't pursue that avenue if they jump ship right now. IMO, I don't see this conference surviving long-term with a 10-team format and no conference championship.

tlongII
06-15-2010, 12:02 PM
I think this decision is short-sighted on the part of Texas. They actually tried to bully the Pac-10 into giving them their own TV network and an unequal share of the conference revenues, but the Pac-10 wouldn't budge and that's what killed the deal. I don't see how the Big XII in its current configuration can pay the kind of money they are talking about now.

rjv
06-15-2010, 12:21 PM
I'll believe this whole thing when the ink is dry. Dan Beebe is bascially spouting off projections and assumptions at this point as no official contracts are even in place. He and DeLoss Dodds have two completely different objectives at this point. One is trying to save his job/ass and the other is trying to cement his legacy. Texas is just positioning themselves favorably until they can get the Longhorn Network up and running and then realignment will be discussed. Texas has no intentions of going anywhere until that's settled because they can't pursue that avenue if they jump ship right now. IMO, I don't see this conference surviving long-term with a 10-team format and no conference championship.

the deal will involve binding agreements from the schools indicating that they will not leave to another conference.

in the end it is TV revenue that generates the most $$ and if they secure this deal with FOX then it is all that the schools need to know.

Marklar MM
06-15-2010, 12:45 PM
LMAO. Tech is holding out because of what started the Big12 firestorm in the first place...revenue sharing. :lmao:lmao:lmao

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 12:48 PM
This conference is a fucking joke. Why is everyone agreeing to keep this unstable mound of shit.

Marklar MM
06-15-2010, 12:51 PM
This conference is a fucking joke. Why is everyone agreeing to keep this unstable mound of shit.

This is a bandage on a bulletwound. Conference won't last 5 years.

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 12:54 PM
This is a bandage on a bulletwound. Conference won't last 5 years.

I hope Tech and Ok.State blow it up right now. They're pissed about the disparity in $. Bolt to the Pac10!!!

I'm going to be so pissed having a home schedule of

Louisiana Tech
IowaState
Baylor
Kansas State
Texas

Marklar MM
06-15-2010, 12:57 PM
I hope Tech and Ok.State blow it up right now. They're pissed about the disparity in $. Bolt to the Pac10!!!

I'm going to be so pissed having a home schedule of

Louisiana Tech
IowaState
Baylor
Kansas State
Texas

I am sure you have read the numbers. The 5 "leftovers" (big12 north) get jack shit. They signed over their measly 2 million share each for Nebraska/Colorado leaving to Texas/OK/A&M (now get ~5.5 each).

Texas/OK/A&M get 20 million a year.
Tech/Ok State get 17 or so.
leftovers around 12-13.

Conference is a joke now.

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 01:02 PM
I am sure you have read the numbers. The 5 "leftovers" (big12 north) get jack shit. They signed over their measly 2 million share each for Nebraska/Colorado leaving to Texas/OK/A&M (now get ~5.5 each).

Texas/OK/A&M get 20 million a year.
Tech/Ok State get 17 or so.
leftovers around 12-13.

Conference is a joke now.

Oh yeah I know. Pretty disappointed in A&M for not making the move. Texas obviously got what they wanted but it was no secret A&M was holding the cards.

From Chip Brown:

ChipBrownOB

1. L.Scott says he had deal w/ TX. Sources say TX backed out of deal with P10 by saying because A&M wasn't on board w/ P10 the deal was off.

The Fact that A&M got matched money that UT and OU are going to pull in just proves this. A&M almost tripling its amount of money that they were making last year despite how we have been performing against OU and UT since 2000.

A&M should have went SEC and Texas should have went Pac10.

Marklar MM
06-15-2010, 01:04 PM
Texas/Oklahoma are going to need one hell of an out of conference schedule.

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 01:05 PM
Texas/Oklahoma are going to need one hell of an out of conference schedule.

That's one thing to look forward to.

Kermit
06-15-2010, 01:43 PM
:lmao at saying A&M pussied out. Considering how we've performed in relation to OU and the sips since 2000, the fact that this new deal is getting us equal $(20 mil annually) which almost triples are revenue from last year shows who really held the cards (having another option to bolt for SEC)

Once Texas pulled out, the SEC option was gone. You know that right? I'll give you that A&M called Texas' bluff though. Those pussies just couldn't do it.

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 01:46 PM
Once Texas pulled out, the SEC option was gone. You know that right? I'll give you that A&M called Texas' bluff though. Those pussies just couldn't do it.


Billy liucci-twit

@lengis yes, the offer from SEC was unconditional and they guaranteed they would take A&M even if they were only the 13th member about 14 hours ago via web in reply to lengis

Option was always there.

TFloss32
06-15-2010, 01:52 PM
the deal will involve binding agreements from the schools indicating that they will not leave to another conference.

Those kind of agreements don't mean anything, rjv. Even if this deal does go down, there will be a provision in the contract (like the current Big XII has) that says the conference can be dissolved in certain situations. Even if that doesn't happen, do you think there's any financial penalty that Texas couldn't afford to take if they decide to walk in a couple of years? They're the ones who hold the cards in this whole deal anyway. Make no mistake about it...this is happening because Texas said so.


in the end it is TV revenue that generates the most $$ and if they secure this deal with FOX then it is all that the schools need to know.

Again, y'all are making an assumption about this deal with FOX or whoever. This whole television contract and financial figures that Beebe is talking about doesn't mean much of anything at this point in time. Bill Powers and DeLoss Dodds didn't really have it together at the press conference today and it showed in their body language. There are no concrete terms, nothing has been seen in writing and even Dodds mentioned that Texas has not committed to a long-term Big XII. He even stated afterwards that nothing in these sort of deals will keep Texas (or another team) from walking in the future if they want to. There's a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that simply isn't being talked about. Texas appears to have its own agenda.

TFloss32
06-15-2010, 01:53 PM
Once Texas pulled out, the SEC option was gone. You know that right? I'll give you that A&M called Texas' bluff though. Those pussies just couldn't do it.

The Aggies definitely pissed in the punch, but where big brother goes...little brother goes.

Kermit
06-15-2010, 01:55 PM
Option was always there.

I don't buy that for a second. The SEC wants to be responsible for creating the PAC 16? I'm sure they're floating that through their mouthpiece but in reality, A&M doesn't have the invite unless Texas is westward bound. I wish it were true and I wish that A&M would be the one in this scenario to have the balls to make these mega conferences begin. The SEC/ESPN wins by not having the PAC 16.

Kermit
06-15-2010, 02:02 PM
Did Beebe really admit that they don't have a new deal but are fucking hopeful? Fuck everyone involved with this abortion. Especially that douche.

Kermit
06-15-2010, 02:03 PM
Come on Aggie. Blow this thing up. Leave. Please. I'm begging you. If you really have an unconditional offer to the SEC, take it. Run. Don't look back.

TFloss32
06-15-2010, 02:05 PM
Option was always there.

I wouldn't take to heart much of what you read on TexAgs or from Liucci. That site has some of the most delusional folks around. I once saw a conversation on there that went like this:

"Do you guys think we can still make a national title run even though we lost to Arkansas State?"

"Oh yeah, we can always climb up the standings with an early season loss."

"Yeah, we can run the table and still get in. Look at LSU...they got into the BCS Championship with two losses."

TFloss32
06-15-2010, 02:06 PM
Did Beebe really admit that they don't have a new deal but are fucking hopeful? Fuck everyone involved with this abortion. Especially that douche.

This was DeLoss Dodds and Bill Powers at the press conference today. It was extremely bizarre and just uncomfortable.

Kermit
06-15-2010, 02:10 PM
This was DeLoss Dodds and Bill Powers at the press conference today. It was extremely bizzarre.

When it comes from the guy who is supposed to have the numbers and used those numbers to convince Deloss and Powers to stay, then it gets scary. All they kept saying with regard to tv revenue projections was "ask Beebe." But Beebe doesn't know shit and is going based on what "consultants" have advised him. They don't have a fucking deal. They have assurances. We're fucked. I hate this fucking league.

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 02:20 PM
Well we know where that money is going now...

Andy_Staples

The three (Texas, A&M, OU) will get all the Nebraska and Colorado buyout money. At least now we know the pecking order.

ChrisLevel

Beebe is confirming that MU, KU, KSU, BU and ISU all gave in and will give the buyout fee money to UT, OU and A&M.
5 minutes ago via web

:lmao at Tech and OkState. They're prob like wtf?

TFloss32
06-15-2010, 02:20 PM
When it comes from the guy who is supposed to have the numbers and used those numbers to convince Deloss and Powers to stay, then it gets scary. All they kept saying with regard to tv revenue projections was "ask Beebe." But Beebe doesn't know shit and is going based on what "consultants" have advised him. They don't have a fucking deal. They have assurances. We're fucked. I hate this fucking league.

Dan Beebe is a weasel and only concerned for himself. On top of that, not a single school has agreed to stay in the Big XII beyond 2016...at the latest. That gives you five seasons at the most before this very same situation comes up again. This is short-term fix as realignment was moving too fast for most.

Kermit
06-15-2010, 02:32 PM
Well we know where that money is going now...

Andy_Staples

The three (Texas, A&M, OU) will get all the Nebraska and Colorado buyout money. At least now we know the pecking order.

ChrisLevel

Beebe is confirming that MU, KU, KSU, BU and ISU all gave in and will give the buyout fee money to UT, OU and A&M.
5 minutes ago via web

:lmao at Tech and OkState. They're prob like wtf?

Wow. Is this a rumor? If I'm Tech, I'm saying fuck that.

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 02:34 PM
Wow. Is this a rumor? If I'm Tech, I'm saying fuck that.

nope. http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/docs-office/2010/06/15/big-12-members-agree-to-cede-exit-money-to-texas-oklahoma-am

Tech's BOR are meeting as we speak to make their final decision. I'm sure they are pretty pissed about being left out of the money both in the buyout and annual earnings. Not like they have much leverage but well see what they do.

Kermit
06-15-2010, 02:46 PM
nope. http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/docs-office/2010/06/15/big-12-members-agree-to-cede-exit-money-to-texas-oklahoma-am

Tech's BOR are meeting as we speak to make their final decision. I'm sure they are pretty pissed about being left out of the money both in the buyout and annual earnings. Not like they have much leverage but well see what they do.

That would be fucking awesome if they could blow this up.

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 02:49 PM
That would be fucking awesome if they could blow this up.

I wish lol.

lebomb
06-15-2010, 02:52 PM
Wow..............If I were Tech, hell............If I were any of those schools Id say fuck off. I cant be bought. Go to another conference. You may not make as much, but you will be respected. Texas, OU and A&M are crooks. And they could give two shits about any of the other schools in the Big 12. That is why Colorado and Nebraska bolted.

DesignatedT
06-15-2010, 02:58 PM
Wow..............If I were Tech, hell............If I were any of those schools Id say fuck off. I cant be bought. Go to another conference. You may not make as much, but you will be respected. Texas, OU and A&M are crooks. And they could give two shits about any of the other schools in the Big 12. That is why Colorado and Nebraska bolted.

but Baylor, Ksate, KU, IowaSt, Missouri don't have a pac-10 or big10 to bolt to. no way they risk having to join the sunbelt conference.

Tech and Oklahoma State are a different story.. assuming they still have an offer to join the Pac10... and that's a pretty big assumption.

lebomb
06-15-2010, 03:05 PM
but Baylor, Ksate, KU, IowaSt, Missouri don't have a pac-10 or big10 to bolt to. no way they risk having to join the sunbelt conference.

Tech and Oklahoma State are a different story.. assuming they still have an offer to join the Pac10... and that's a pretty big assumption.


True, but couldnt the left overs create a new conference with TCU and Houston involved??? Just sayin

Blake
06-15-2010, 07:32 PM
i got the impression tx and ou were in no hurry to get back to 12 teams, the coaches hate the championship game

i dont think this agreement ensures the long time health of the big 12. There is still a huge disparity in revenue between the top and bottom half of the conference, which is what started this shit to begin with. I expect we will revisist this issue in the next 5 years.



+1

samikeyp
06-15-2010, 07:39 PM
that would be fucking awesome if they could blow this up.

+1

Blake
06-16-2010, 10:26 AM
tech has delusions of grandeur

I guess it's better than delusions of suck

Obstructed_View
06-16-2010, 12:23 PM
Wow. Is this a rumor? If I'm Tech, I'm saying fuck that.

Not likely. Tech knows they aren't any of those other teams, even if their fans don't.

Blake
06-16-2010, 04:08 PM
Not likely. Tech knows they aren't any of those other teams, even if their fans don't.

yeah, I still think Tech could have held out a bit. What was the rush to say yes right now?

I guess in the end the regents realized there was no getting out of getting bent over, so just say wtf and take the $17 mill that they are leaving on the nightstand.

DMX7
06-16-2010, 04:32 PM
yeah, I still think Tech could have held out a bit. What was the rush to say yes right now?

I guess in the end the regents realized there was no getting out of getting bent over, so just say wtf and take the $17 mill that they are leaving on the nightstand.

Held out? Where were they going to go? I haven't heard anything about Tech having an invite to another major conference that wasn't contingent on Texas coming with them.

Ignignokt
06-16-2010, 04:56 PM
Held out? Where were they going to go? I haven't heard anything about Tech having an invite to another major conference that wasn't contingent on Texas coming with them.

hold out till mizzou gets an invite from the big 10 if it can't land ND. Then the situation would be more dire and TT would have more leverage than just bending over and accepting more inequality in competition.

But you wouldn't know that with Chip Brown and Orangebloods jizz firmly caked in your throat.

DMX7
06-16-2010, 05:13 PM
hold out till mizzou gets an invite from the big 10 if it can't land ND. Then the situation would be more dire and TT would have more leverage than just bending over and accepting more inequality in competition.


Mizzou clearly doesn't see an invite from the Big Ten coming any time soon or it wouldn't have run back to the Big XII on its knees.

Blake
06-16-2010, 06:32 PM
Held out? Where were they going to go? I haven't heard anything about Tech having an invite to another major conference that wasn't contingent on Texas coming with them.

I didn't allude to them threatening to leave.

I just think they didn't have to sign on the dotted line so quickly.

What would have happened if Tech said "maybe" and the regents just sat on their asses on through this upcoming season?

even though the cornholing was inevitable, at least Tech could have gotten a bit more pub out of it. I enjoyed the 3 minutes of pub that they got for holding out until this past Tuesday

Fdawg07
06-16-2010, 09:26 PM
Hey, Someone sent me this article and it had to do with all this realignment.

Lemme know what yall think of it...

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/06/16/meet-the-texas-longhorns-the-biggest-coward-program-in-college/

Blake
06-16-2010, 09:46 PM
Hey, Someone sent me this article and it had to do with all this realignment.

Lemme know what yall think of it...

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/06/16/meet-the-texas-longhorns-the-biggest-coward-program-in-college/

lame blog that failed in the opening paragraph

NFO
06-17-2010, 09:00 AM
hold out till mizzou gets an invite from the big 10 if it can't land ND.

The only way Missouri gets an invite to the Big Ten is if it is the 14th or 16th team and either Notre Dame or Texas joins, otherwise Missouri over played their hand badly and now has to watch Texas become an even bigger cash cow.

Obstructed_View
06-17-2010, 11:56 AM
I didn't allude to them threatening to leave.

I just think they didn't have to sign on the dotted line so quickly.

What would have happened if Tech said "maybe" and the regents just sat on their asses on through this upcoming season?

even though the cornholing was inevitable, at least Tech could have gotten a bit more pub out of it. I enjoyed the 3 minutes of pub that they got for holding out until this past Tuesday

I think Tech made the smart play, because the rivalries with UT and A&M are the only thing that makes them a national draw. Trying to keep everything up in the air a little longer just for a little extra money could have toppled the whole thing and put them looking for a spot in the Mountain West. Again, all twelve teams from the conference made out from this deal. There's not a realistic scenario for anyone that would have been more beneficial.

Blake
06-17-2010, 02:09 PM
I think Tech made the smart play, because the rivalries with UT and A&M are the only thing that makes them a national draw. Trying to keep everything up in the air a little longer just for a little extra money could have toppled the whole thing and put them looking for a spot in the Mountain West. Again, all twelve teams from the conference made out from this deal. There's not a realistic scenario for anyone that would have been more beneficial.

I think Tech made the only play they could make.

Even if the Pac10 still offered, it would make no sense for Tech to move on it's own for any number of reasons.

I just wanted to see Tech pout a little longer about this blatant unfairness....