Argentina vs. Mexico

[Spurologist]

give them as many reffs as they want and make it a lumberjack match!!!

:lol

They'd still miss calls

[IronMexican]

45 minutes late for him, though.

[MannyIsGod]

you're right, but the real thing here is not necesarily mental toughness (pro players should be used to this) but tactics imbalance, that is what really fucks a team up as in exposing yourself.

Well not in Mexico's case but I couldn't agree more about Englands game this morning. A lot harder to get those 2 counters if England is sitting at 2-2 instead of 2-1.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

It's simple, do you think it happens if the goal doesn't count?

To say that the goal wasn't a game changer is being ignorant.
Sadly, yes Mexico should still be concentrated on the game, but Mexico has had some chances to score too. After the goal the team has been fouling more, passes have worse, and the defense has gotten worse as well.

I'm telling you this team needs confidence to win, how is that goal not a punch in their confidence's gut?

I don't. We're not talking about a dissallowed goal or anything Mexico did on merit and didn't get. That goal was offsides on Tevez' touch, but the ball got there because of Mexico's defensive fuck up. Osorio's fuck up was a result of the crap defense you've been playing for sometime now, not an uncalled offside.

so to answer your question, yes, I think it was a punch to their confidence, any goal is but its NOT the reason for the second goal.

Either way, Mexico is playing well again and is still quite in this.

[Spurologist]

People will look at the final scores and they will never tell the story of how much a bad call can impact a game. They see 2-0 and think "Oh a messed up single goal doesn't matter then" but thats the most foolish shit ever because obviously its a lot easier to lose focus when you're in a 1-0 situation due to a bad call then if you're at nil nil and out playing the other team. You can knock a team for mental toughness but teams shoudln't have to play in these holes they don't deserve. Its an artificial hurdle to have to cross and honestly it is really putting some serious tarnish on this WC.

I hope Mexico can show some heart and get some goals in the 2nd half but they've seemed to have lost all focus.

so the second goal was caused by that artificial hurdle? Really?

I do agree with some of what you're saying....can't excuse that defensive fuckup though

[boston.balla]

Did you see the cold blood running through his vains as he went through past Perez?

did you see that WIIIIDE open header he missed. Or the misses in the group
stage.

Do you think drogba would of missed that?
Do you think drogba wouldn't have scored on osorio mistake?

I'm not saying he is not good, he is, but not great/world class. It's not abouta moment of brilliance, a world class striker has a world class feel for the goal ... RAUL is an awesome example... can you compare higuain's finishing skills with a young raul's? :-))

Plus higuain play out of position alot.

[boston.balla]

what the game really needs is a goal from mexico :)

[Muser]

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[boston.balla]

tevez with a huge goal

[Kriz-Maxima]

wow

[Spurologist]

OH SHIT! What a goal

[Muser]

What a fucking goal.

[ffadicted]

1 - 0 argentina, nice strike by tevez

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Now THAT's a goal

[Sense]

That's conejo for you

Great goal though.

[boston.balla]

keeper had not chance in hell to get to that.

[Whisky Dog]

Wow that was a freaking goal. Tevez for the win.

[sefant77]

Argentina-Germany should be at least a semifinal...damn bracket

[timvp]

lol midget mexican goaltender

[IronMexican]

Conejo playing his worst at the worst point to play your worst.

[IronMexican]

lol midget mexican goaltender

How is the dominican republic doing at the WC, brah?

[boston.balla]

i would really LOVE to see argentina portugal in semis ... two very talented disorganized teams =))

[ffadicted]

Argentina-Germany should be at least a semifinal...damn bracket

lol Spain > > > > Argentina, the only place where the brackets fuck up is Brasil x Netherlands in the quarters

[Spurologist]

Conejo playing his worst at the worst point to play your worst.

Schmeichel couldn't stop that

[IronMexican]

What was that? Juarez almost gave him another gol

[Sense]

Schmeichel couldn't stop that

You're kidding right?

There was only one gap , that's where it was shot... Conejo had a chance to block it if he was taller....

Not taking anything away from the goal, but it's not an impossible save at all.

[IronMexican]

Schmeichel couldn't stop that

True. Just venting.


I'm already over this, though.

[ffadicted]

ok this game is over, can you please fucking score now messi? for gods sake man you've been dead weight for 4 rounds now

[Whisky Dog]

Argentina was fortunate early with Mexico hitting the pipe and having 2 more just miss wide then get the fortunate non call, but they've finished like assassins on their chances. Excellent display of finishing ability.

[IronMexican]

You're kidding right?

There was only one gap , that's where it was shot... Conejo had a chance to block it if he was taller....

I don't think so.

[Whisky Dog]

How is the dominican republic doing at the WC, brah?

They broke their toes trying to figure out how to kick a baseball.

[IronMexican]

They broke their toes trying to figure out how to kick a baseball.

:lmao

[Spurologist]

Oh shit Barrera....DAMN

[boston.balla]

You're kidding right?

There was only one gap , that's where it was shot... Conejo had a chance to block it if he was taller....

son he was positioned right, but for the situation before the ball bounced, he can't reposition in one second ... being short did make it impossible to reach the ball BUT the distance was like 0.8-1 m so even a considerably taller keeper would have problems to save that from the initial (normal) positioning,

[IronMexican]

Barrera should have started.

[Sense]

I just hope we get a competent coach that will start the right players from the get-go.

I can't wait to see Aguirre leave the team, with the talent we have now you can't fuck up the lineups by putting the washed up fuckers in the field.

That's all I look forward to, Mexico's future looks promising, but if you don't put it on the field we won't get better anytime soon.

They need a great coach that will develop the young guns as a team.

[MannyIsGod]

Well, looks like Mexican fans can join US fans in waiting for the ultra awesome GOLD CUP.

:(

[boston.balla]

tough night for mexico, everything going against them.

[IronMexican]

Salcido, Gio and Barrera have all been good the whole WC.

[Sense]

Salcido, Guardado and Barrera have all been good the whole WC.

fify..


Gio has been kind of disappointing, he hasn't created as much as he has in the past.

[IronMexican]

Well, looks like Mexican fans can join US fans in waiting for the ultra awesome GOLD CUP.

:(

The last one was pretty boring. 2007 was exciting throughout though. 8 championships, holmes.

[Spurologist]

Barrera should have started.

:tu

dude needs to be picked up by a bigger club......he has made good use of every minute he's been on the pitch

[boston.balla]

lol heinze.

[IronMexican]

fify..


Gio has been kind of disappointing, he hasn't created as much as he has in the past.

Sans today, I think Gio has been good. Salcido has definitely been the best though. Shame he's probably gonna be too old for the next WC.

[Sense]

:tu

dude needs to be picked up by a bigger club......he has made good use of every minute he's been on the pitch

He's extremely quick with the ball and can create opportunities, but needs to work on his shot.

He should be picked up...

[boston.balla]

no disrespect but the argentina coaching staff look more like latino singers then coaches.

[IronMexican]

Chucho time.

[IronMexican]

Salcido is awesome

[MaNuMaNiAc]

:lol Germany is going to murder this defense.

[Sense]

Chucho time.

He might be a better fit, having coached Vela and Dos Santos he might do wonders for Barrera and Chicharito

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Nice goal Mexico! :tu

[boston.balla]

awesome goal.

[IronMexican]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Sense]

:lol I can't believe he started Bofo

[Spurologist]

Hernandez!

[Whisky Dog]

Aguirre should just put Blanco in for a curtain call.

[ffadicted]

fuck man this game should be tied by now

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Our D is non existant

[boston.balla]

another quick mexico goal and this should really heat up

[IronMexican]

Really, man. Chicharito, Vela, Barrera, Gio, Guardado are all in their early 20's.


I know 4 years is a long time from now, but the future looks good.


and I almost forgot Ochoa is like 25-26.

[IronMexican]

Really, man. Chicharito, Vela, Barrera, Gio, Guardado are all in their early 20's.


I know 4 years is a long time from now, but the future looks good.


and I almost forgot Ochoa is like 25-26.

[ffadicted]

Messi is fucking useless :madrun
Best player in the world my ass

[boston.balla]

Messi is fucking useless :madrun
Best player in the world my ass

i'd trade robinho for him with my eyes closed

[ffadicted]

i'd trade robinho for him with my eyes closed

lol robinho is a punk.
I would not trade Kaka for Messi

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Mexico is outrunning every single ball out there

[Dinamita]

Chucho time.

Chucho is as bad as Aguirre he plays old ass players too.

[boston.balla]

mex keeper has just 1.71 WTF!

[IronMexican]

Chucho is as bad as Aguirre he plays old ass players too.

He has an awesome last name though.

[boston.balla]

lol robinho is a punk.
I would not trade Kaka for Messi

i agree since kaka is much more suited for our style of play.

[Spurologist]

Messi has been shut down.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Jesus, the flopping going on is ridiculous

[boston.balla]

heinze is hilarious

[Spurologist]

:tu

Heinze....saving 2 goals

[ffadicted]

Messi has been shut down.

Man, it's not even hard to shut down messi... all he does is try to push and shove people around. If you don't let him do it and muscle with him like Mexico has been doing, he can't do shit and gets frustrated, and is pretty ineffective

[Spurologist]

Man, it's not even hard to shut down messi... all he does is try to push and shove people around. If you don't let him do it and muscle with him like Mexico has been doing, he can't do shit and gets frustrated, and is pretty ineffective

who do you think the best player in the world is?

[Spurologist]

heinze is hilarious

:lmao

[ffadicted]

who do you think the best player in the world is?

I don't think there's a clear cut one right now, but imo I'd take ronaldo over messi

[ffadicted]

ugh every fucking game this shit happens, get the fuck up

[Spurologist]

I love Ian Darke.....he calls out all this bullshit flopping/fake injuries :rollin

[IronMexican]

I hate Heinze. Internet went out. Gotta use phone. Props to Mexico for not giving up.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Yellow card that BULLSHIT FLOP!!!!

[boston.balla]

I don't think there's a clear cut one right now, but imo I'd take ronaldo over messi

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? are you craaazy?

ronaldo does not pass, he never passes, all teams built around him (not him as a finisher) underachieve, not to mention the flopping and the media whoredom.

Messi beats him by a fuckin mile.

[ffadicted]

I don't see anybody with a Magnum .45 in the crowd, do you??

lmao

[TheProfessor]

:lol "I don't see anyone in the crowd with a Colt 45, do you?"

EDIT - Bah, beat me to it.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

That shit by Ottamendi was fucking disgraceful

[ffadicted]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? are you craaazy?

ronaldo does not pass, he never passes, all teams built around him (not him as a finisher) underachieve, not to mention the flopping and the media whoredom.

Messi beats him by a fuckin mile.

.... How did Man U underachieve when Ronaldo was there

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[Spurologist]

I don't think there's a clear cut one right now, but imo I'd take ronaldo over messi

Ronaldo has closed the gap a little in the tournament but I think it's clearly Messi

[boston.balla]

furthermore he misses so much it's unreal, he goes for idiotic tricks when it's not the case, he 3 primadonnas in one.

I'll not go in who plays for the team and other stuff like that. Ronaldo is a huge huge fail. Oooh and ZERO mental strength.

[Spurologist]

:lol "I don't see anyone in the crowd with a Colt 45, do you?"

EDIT - Bah, beat me to it.

another Ian Darke classic :lmao

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Mexico played better, just couldn't finish. Germany is going to kill us. I mean de.ci.mate us!

[boston.balla]

.... How did Man U underachieve when Ronaldo was there

look at all his goals back then : penalties, tap ins, actions created by giggs or midfielders.. there are videos that prove this on youtube.

[resistanze]

Damn I want Argentina to beat Germany, but they'll have to step their game up.

[DAF86]

Missleading score, it was exactly the game I imagined, a tough game where the possesion of the ball was going to be divided, we just got a break with the lineman and Mexico mistakes. I'm not happy.

[Dinamita]

It's bad enough that we lost but fuck Messi hasn't done shit for my fantasy team.
:lol

[DAF86]

It's bad enough that we lost but fuck Messi hasn't done shit for my fantasy team.
:lol

An assist.

[boston.balla]

furthermore, ronaldo does not understand the game, the boy plays for himself. He don't know shit about pacing the game, about one-two or tactical advantage. He just puts it on the pitch and runs.

Any team with ronaldo was bullied in champs league by a team, even when ronaldo's team was much much better (real lyon)

[Spurologist]

look at all his goals back then : penalties, tap ins, actions created by giggs or midfielders.. there are videos that prove this on youtube.

bullshit points

clearly another Ronaldo hater......just say you are

[Typhoon]

Good stuff from Argentina, defense did great and had the flow of the game... now bring on the Germans.

[boston.balla]

~except by chelsea.

[Spurologist]

furthermore, ronaldo does not understand the game, the boy plays for himself. He don't know shit about pacing the game, about one-two or tactical advantage. He just puts it on the pitch and runs.

Any team with ronaldo was bullied in champs league by a team, even when ronaldo's team was much much better (real lyon)

Ronaldo shit on Michael Essien in the Champions League. He scored and ManU won

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Damn I want Argentina to beat Germany, but they'll have to step their game up.

I don't think we have a game to step up to. This is us right now. Disorganized, practically defenseless, relying on our excellent offensive players to score more than the other team does. Mexico would have won this had they had finishers IMO. That seems to always be Mexico's problem. Otherwise we got completely outplayed today.

Against teams like Germany, Holland or Brazil we're going to get stepped on.

[ffadicted]

look at all his goals back then : penalties, tap ins, actions created by giggs or midfielders.. there are videos that prove this on youtube.

I followed Man U through his entire tenure there, I can tell you that's so much BS lol

[ffadicted]

It's bad enough that we lost but fuck Messi hasn't done shit for my fantasy team.
:lol

Dude, he hasn't been bad, he's consistently good for 5 - 8 points... but when guys like Podolski, Villa and Fabiano give you 11 - 14, it pisses me off too :lol

[Dinamita]

An assist.

I mean in terms of scoring. He has yet to break the 9 point mark. This game he only got an 8.

[Sense]

Good game?

lol

I wonder if tomorrow will bring more controversial calls

[ElNono]

Argentina win 3-1

:downspin:

[Typhoon]

I don't think we have a game to step up to. This is us right now. Disorganized, practically defenseless, relying on our excellent offensive players to score more than the other team does. Mexico would have won this had they had finishers IMO. That seems to always be Mexico's problem. Otherwise we got completely outplayed today.

Against teams like Germany, Holland or Brazil we're going to get stepped on.

What game did you watch? when it needed to attack Argentina scored, and when it needed to defend it did great.

Argentina is the real deal, great chemistry and the best offense in the world, stop bitching so much and enjoy the win...

Mexico is a shitty team that didn't have any attack whatsoever and terrible defense, they suck, they may be relevant in a distant future, but c mon dude.

[resistanze]

I don't think we have a game to step up to. This is us right now. Disorganized, practically defenseless, relying on our excellent offensive players to score more than the other team does. Mexico would have won this had they had finishers IMO. That seems to always be Mexico's problem. Otherwise we got completely outplayed today.

Against teams like Germany, Holland or Brazil we're going to get stepped on.

Yeah, all the magic from Messi won't mean much if the back four doesn't sure up. Maybe Samuel is ready for Germany - he better be.

[resistanze]

BTW, 15 goals in 4 knockout stage matches.

[Sense]

What game did you watch? when it needed to attack Argentina scored, and when it needed to defend it did great.

Argentina is the real deal, great chemistry and the best offense in the world, stop bitching so much and enjoy the win...

Mexico is a shitty team that didn't have any attack whatsoever and terrible defense, they suck, they may be relevant in a distant future, but c mon dude.

:lmao

[Typhoon]

lol si se puede

[FkLA]

Aguirre should just put Blanco in for a curtain call.

Aguirre couldnt even get this right by giving a Mexican legend a proper send-off, shaking my fucking head.

Marcelo Bielsa please. He needs to be our next coach. Look what he's done with Chile and the style they play. He's our guy.

[ffadicted]

What game did you watch? when it needed to attack Argentina scored, and when it needed to defend it did great.

Argentina is the real deal, great chemistry and the best offense in the world, stop bitching so much and enjoy the win...

Mexico is a shitty team that didn't have any attack whatsoever and terrible defense, they suck, they may be relevant in a distant future, but c mon dude.

:lmao

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[DAF86]

What game did you watch? when it needed to attack Argentina scored, and when it needed to defend it did great.

Argentina is the real deal, great chemistry and the best offense in the world, stop bitching so much and enjoy the win...

Mexico is a shitty team that didn't have any attack whatsoever and terrible defense, they suck, they may be relevant in a distant future, but c mon dude.

We played like crap, don't be such a homer. Our best atribute today was effectiveness.

[ElNono]

I'll take every win... still riding the wave... :lol

LOL Osorio
LOL Conejo
LOL Vasco
LOL Mexico our sons

[boston.balla]

bullshit points

clearly another Ronaldo hater......just say you are

son, there is a video that states it in clear
kcJO0-HKW-4

the goals were a) dead balls at which he is so so and headers at which he is very good.
b) free kicks (of which he misses so many that what goes in is purely statisitical.. look @ juninho for skill)
c) finishing team actions that very probably he did not start.


Messi plays for the team, ronaldo does not, any fool can notice that.
I'm no hater, he does not have what it takes to be an all time great, he has the stats but not the game, not the understanding, not the ability to lead a team, not the ability to not need a gazzillion shots to score, not the ability to be a dead ball specialist missing tons of fk.

This is no hate, these are just facts.
/discussion.

[Typhoon]

Dude bunch of lame fans from Argentina, support your team fagots, we are winning, have a legit chance and all you do is bitch.

[ElNono]

LOL Brazilian haters are gonna hate...

Bitching about a goal in offside while LB pulls a double-hand and celebrate anyways...

[boston.balla]

Ronaldo shit on Michael Essien in the Champions League. He scored and ManU won

he scored on a header and missed alot of posessions which the team provided, not that he won by hustle like teves. When you play striker for a great team you get alot of posessions.

Oh and he did not shit on essien, chelsea was more dominant in the game if you rewatch the match, especially in midfield. They just could not finish, and lost at pens.

[Typhoon]

LOL Brazil has no game, they are gonna get their asses handed to a shorthanded Chile.

[Sense]

Dude bunch of lame fans from Argentina, support your team fagots, we are winning, have a legit chance and all you do is bitch.

They support their team, but they're also not delusional.

Mexico outplayed Argentina, and got help from the ref and Osorio...

Besides the amazing goal, I don't think they should be too happy. Mexico had some great chances, and Chicharito's goal was kind of good? lol


The truth is, Germany has looked amazing, and Mexico outplayed Argentina even though they lost.

Sure Argentina won 3-1,but I don't think you watched the game.

Anyways, I wish the best for Argentina, they're somewhat classy (Heinze lol cameraman) but Germany looks like the better team

[ElNono]

They support their team, but they're also not delusional.

Mexico outplayed Argentina, and got help from the Osorio...

Besides the amazing goal, I don't think they should be too happy. Mexico had some great chances, and Chicharito's goal was kind of good? lol


The truth is, Germany has looked amazing, and Mexico outplayed Argentina even though they lost.

Sure Argentina won 3-1, surely you were the one that didn't watch the game.

Anyways, I wish the best for Argentina, they're somewhat classy (Heinze lol cameraman) but Germany looks like the better team

Bring Germany on... I don't think Mexico outplayed us at all. We simply got a few gifts, made them, and then we defended the lead (which we're not good at doing). This game could have easily ended 6-4 for argentina, but I didn't think the result was in doubt throughout the second half.

[Typhoon]

I disagree clogging the midfield then having no form of attack whatsoever, that is not control of the game, also fouling like crazy.

[DAF86]

Dude bunch of lame fans from Argentina, support your team fagots, we are winning, have a legit chance and all you do is bitch.

When Argentina plays well I say the play well, when they don't I don't. Don't be a "resultadista", analize the way we played. Or don't, just be happy for the win but don't try to convince us that we've played a good game.

[ffadicted]

LOL Brazil has no game, they are gonna get their asses handed to a shorthanded Chile.

lol dude, gtfo srsly, leave the posting to the Argentine that actually know shit

[FkLA]

by the way what happened in the scuffle after the 1st half, how did it start?

[ElNono]

At this point, all teams are pretty even. I don't know how we're gonna do against Germany, but I'll enjoy this win until next saturday...

[Sense]

Bring Germany on... I don't think Mexico outplayed us at all. We simply got a few gifts, made them, and then we defended the lead (which we're not good at doing). This game could have easily ended 6-4 for argentina, but I didn't think the result was in doubt throughout the second half.

:lol

Ok guys

[ElNono]

by the way what happened in the scuffle after the 1st half, how did it start?

Probably somebody talking shit...

[Typhoon]

lol dude, gtfo srsly, leave the posting to the argentine that actually know shit

LOL RIP joga bonito hahahahaha, Brazil sucks.

[ElNono]

:cry

You got beat by a better team. Nothing to be crying about.
Just pack your shit and GTFO...


:lol

[Typhoon]

You got beat by a better team. Nothing to be crying about.
Just pack your shit and GTFO...


:lol

This dude knows whats up! props to you modafucka :toast:toast

[ElNono]

Germany just added a few million more green fans... :lol

[ElNono]

This dude knows whats up! props to you modafucka :toast:toast

LOL, when Germany rolls right over us, everyone here is going to be a German fan and trolling like shit, so let me have fun now... :lol

[ffadicted]

lol Typhoon is a terrible troll

[DAF86]

Typhoon and ElNono sound like Lakers fans.

[Typhoon]

Manu to the Lakers, make it happen!

[ElNono]

Typhoon and ElNono sound like Lakers fans.

The fuck?... Are you gonna apologize and cry because we won 3-1?

You only have until next saturday to have fun...

[Spurologist]

Messi plays for the team, ronaldo does not, any fool can notice that.
I'm no hater, he does not have what it takes to be an all time great, he has the stats but not the game, not the understanding, not the ability to lead a team, not the ability to not need a gazzillion shots to score, not the ability to be a dead ball specialist missing tons of fk.

This is no hate, these are just facts.
/discussion.

:lmao :lmao

What does Ronaldo need to do to prove to you he's a team player? Whether you like it or not, he will be an all time great. You try and show a video with great goals of which you said there were tap ins etc etc....did you even see the video? You mention to check out Juninho like he makes all his freekicks. :rollin

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* Premier League Player of the Month: November 2006, December 2006, January 2008, March 2008
* Premier League Golden Boot: 2007–08
* Barclays Merit Award: 2007–08
* European Golden Shoe: 2007–08
* UEFA Club Forward of the Year: 2007–08
* UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2007–08
* FIFPro World Player of the Year: 2007–08
* Ballon d'Or: 2008
* FIFA World Player of the Year: 2008
* FIFA Ferenc Puskás Award: 2009
* Onze d'Or: 2008
* Bravo Award: 2004
* World Soccer Player of the Year: 2008

Orders

* Officer of the Order of Infante Dom Henrique
* Medal of Merit, Order of the Immaculate Conception of Vila Viçosa (House of Braganza)[95]

/discussion

[Spurologist]

What game did you watch? when it needed to attack Argentina scored, and when it needed to defend it did great.

Argentina is the real deal, great chemistry and the best offense in the world, stop bitching so much and enjoy the win...

Mexico is a shitty team that didn't have any attack whatsoever and terrible defense, they suck, they may be relevant in a distant future, but c mon dude.

i think you have competition with boston balla

[DAF86]

The fuck?... Are you gonna apologize and cry because we won 3-1?

You only have until next saturday to have fun...

No, but I'm not going to pretend like we didn't play like crap either.

[ffadicted]

:lmao :lmao
blah blah blah very good points


Man, don't bother, Ronaldo is easy to hate, this is nothing new.

I just find it's funny when people bring up the argument of saying that someone's not a good goal scorer because "the ball just always ends up on a good position for him to score". These people obv know nothing about playing football, because as a forward/goal scorer, 99% of your game is positioning on the field. Just look at guys in this WC like Klose, Higuain, Villa and Fabiano, and even legends like Ronaldo, how they play, and why they're such successful goal scorers.

[Phenomanul]

With the US and Mexico out... GO Brazil!!!!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Dude bunch of lame fans from Argentina, support your team fagots, we are winning, have a legit chance and all you do is bitch.

In other words, close your eyes and pretend everything is peachy...

[ElNono]

Club

Manchester United

* Premier League (3): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
* FA Cup (1): 2003–04
* League Cup (2): 2005–06, 2008–09
* FA Community Shield (1): 2007
* UEFA Champions League (1): 2007–08
* FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Individual

* UEFA Euro 2004 Team of the Tournament
* FIFPro Special Young Player of the Year: 2004–05, 2005–06
* Portuguese Footballer of the Year: 2006–07
* UEFA Team of the Year: 2003–2004, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
* FIFPro World XI: 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
* PFA Young Player of the Year: 2006–07
* PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08
* PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08
* PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
* FWA Footballer of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08
* Premier League Player of the Season: 2006–07, 2007–08
* Premier League Player of the Month: November 2006, December 2006, January 2008, March 2008
* Premier League Golden Boot: 2007–08
* Barclays Merit Award: 2007–08
* European Golden Shoe: 2007–08
* UEFA Club Forward of the Year: 2007–08
* UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2007–08
* FIFPro World Player of the Year: 2007–08
* Ballon d'Or: 2008
* FIFA World Player of the Year: 2008
* FIFA Ferenc Puskás Award: 2009
* Onze d'Or: 2008
* Bravo Award: 2004
* World Soccer Player of the Year: 2008

Orders

* Officer of the Order of Infante Dom Henrique
* Medal of Merit, Order of the Immaculate Conception of Vila Viçosa (House of Braganza)[95]

/discussion

So basically he hasn't done or won shit with his national team... :tu
Please take this weak shit to the Portugal thread. We just beat our sons and we don't care.

[ElNono]

Man, don't bother, Ronaldo is easy to hate, this is nothing new.

I just find it's funny when people bring up the argument of saying that someone's not a good goal scorer because "the ball just always ends up on a good position for him to score". These people obv know nothing about playing football, because as a forward/goal scorer, 99% of your game is positioning on the field. Just look at guys in this WC like Klose, Higuain, Villa and Fabiano, and even legends like Ronaldo, how they play, and why they're such successful goal scorers.

Are you talking about el fenomeno? That guy was the real deal...

[ElNono]

In other words, close your eyes and pretend everything is peachy...

Haven't we been doing that since Diego was named coach?

Just enjoy the fucking ride while it lasts... who cares if you play pretty and lose? World Cup is all about winning...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Haven't we been doing that since Diego was named coach?

Just enjoy the fucking ride while it lasts... who cares if you play pretty and lose? World Cup is all about winning...

I agree, which is why I'm saying we either fix the problems we have now, or a better team is going to exploit the shit out of them.

[ElNono]

Messi is fucking useless :madrun
Best player in the world my ass

Did you put it in your fantasy team again? :lol

Stop doing that and he'll find the net... :lmao

[ElNono]

I agree, which is why I'm saying we either fix the problems we have now, or a better team is going to exploit the shit out of them.

We're beyond fixing anything. Every win makes Diego think he's only more right. Enjoy the win, and hope we get lucky... :lol

[Spurologist]

So basically he hasn't done or won shit with his national team... :tu
Please take this weak shit to the Portugal thread. We just beat our sons and we don't care.

so when did it become about ElNono thoughts? It's good to know Messi has won the world cup with Argetina. If you hate him for antics then OK but Ronaldo is class even if he hasn't performed for Portugal. Sorry if it's hard to take but awards don't lie. Just relax and enjoy his class :tu

[ElNono]

Typhoon and ElNono sound like Lakers fans.

Kobe Bryant: "As a kid I dreamed to be like Maradona" (http://www.canchallena.com/1279289-kobe-bryant-de-chico-sonaba-ser-como-maradona) (Spanish)

LMAO

[ffadicted]

Did you put it in your fantasy team again? :lol

Stop doing that and he'll find the net... :lmao

Man, fuck that, I'm too deep down the rabbit hole now. As soon as I take him out, he'll score 2, and I fucking know it

[MB20]

I'll take the win.
Didn't like the team packed on defense, but oh well...
Diego shouldn't have taken Tevez out. He should have taken Messi instead.
We have a chance against Germany if we score 4 goals.:p:

[ElNono]

so when did it become about ElNono thoughts? It's good to know Messi has won the world cup with Argetina. If you hate him for antics then OK but Ronaldo is class even if he hasn't performed for Portugal. Sorry if it's hard to take but awards don't lie. Just relax and enjoy his class :tu

Messi has won plenty with the national team. U20 World Cup and Olympic gold medal. He's only 22 and this is his first actual World Cup where he gets to play, and despite today, he's been singled out as our best player, even without scoring.

I think Ronaldo is a superb talent, but he looks first for himself then for his teammates, and that's really not arguable. It would do Portugal a lot of good if it would be the other way around.

You can keep trumping his ManU career, but this is the World Cup and nobody gives a shit.

[ElNono]

Man, fuck that, I'm too deep down the rabbit hole now. As soon as I take him out, he'll score 2, and I fucking know it

You're holding him hostage! :lmao

[resistanze]

JiOh0e0Fits

Heinze :lol

[ElNono]

That was hilarious... he also took plenty of dives, but he saved at least a goal at the line...

[Spurologist]

Messi has won plenty with the national team. U20 World Cup and Olympic gold medal. He's only 22 and this is his first actual World Cup where he gets to play, and despite today, he's been singled out as our best player, even without scoring.

I think Ronaldo is a superb talent, but he looks first for himself then for his teammates, and that's really not arguable. It would do Portugal a lot of good if it would be the other way around.

You can keep trumping his ManU career, but this is the World Cup and nobody gives a shit.

brought it up to argue against bullshit points and against haters. I hate his antics but not his ability. Did you even see his assists in the cup so far. Messi has been running into a maze so far and asked to be played even when the group stage was wrapped up. Isn't that up to the coach? but whatever....it is what it is. I have Argentina winning it all so we'll see what happens

[Spurologist]

JiOh0e0Fits

Heinze :lol

:lmao

[ElNono]

brought it up to argue against bullshit points and against haters. I hate his antics but not his ability. Did you even see his assists in the cup so far. Messi has been running into a maze so far and asked to be played even when the group stage was wrapped up. Isn't that up to the coach? but whatever....it is what it is. I have Argentina winning it all so we'll see what happens

He only played well against North Korea. Against Brazil he was taking 50 yard shots with his teammates bitching at him. I think he's a superb talent, no question about it. On the other hand, Messi has been handing goals to everybody out there. Heck, he even gave the pass to Tevez for the first goal today (offside or not). They both can change the game at any time, and that's what makes them great. They also are going to be marked by at least two guys. I don't understand the hate either, I don't particularly 'hate' Ronaldo. I just don't think he's doing his side justice at all.

[ElNono]

And BTW, Argentina hasn't won a Round of 16 game in regular time since 1990, when Caniggia scored to beat Brazil 1-0. It's been 20 years. Time to celebrate and worry about other stuff another day.

[ElNono]

Another tidbit: Argentina has not lost a World Cup game when leading at halftime since the 1930 final game against Uruguay...

[Dinamita]

Everyone at the MANU forums are whacking off to Chicharito.
Hope he doesn't dissapoint. :toast

[ElNono]

Everyone at the MANU forums are whacking off to Chicharito.
Hope he doesn't dissapoint. :toast

I like him. He should have played instead of Franco.
On the other hand, the guy in your sig was MIA pretty much the whole game.

[LakerHater]

:lmao

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ptcy01.jpg

[urunobili]

Chicharito is for real :tu

[ElNono]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ptcy01.jpg

:rollin

[chungoman]

And BTW, Argentina hasn't won a Round of 16 game in regular time since 1990, when Caniggia scored to beat Brazil 1-0. It's been 20 years. Time to celebrate and worry about other stuff another day.

True man. Some argentines here sound like they expect the team to win every game by 5 and anything less is a reason for nonstop bitching.

This is the fucking world cup man. No game will be easy, Mexico was tough, Germany will be tougher. Yeah we played like crap today. Of course it's better if you play nice football, but when you can't, you still gotta win no matter what. And that's what the team did.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

True man. Some argentines here sound like they expect the team to win every game by 5 and anything less is a reason for nonstop bitching.

This is the fucking world cup man. No game will be easy, Mexico was tough, Germany will be tougher. Yeah we played like crap today. Of course it's better if you play nice football, but when you can't, you still gotta win no matter what. And that's what the team did.

yeah, and some Argentines like to pretend this team is on par with Germany or Brazil just because it managed to beat Nigeria, South Korea, Greece and barely beat Mexico...

That's fine, play pretend all you want. This team isn't getting past Germany.

[ElNono]

yeah, and some Argentines like to pretend this team is on par with Germany or Brazil just because it managed to beat Nigeria, South Korea, Greece and barely beat Mexico...

Who said this team is on par with anybody? :rolleyes

When are you going to be happy? When this team finally loses and you can say 'I told you so'?

[ElNono]

BTW, the shit at halftime started with el Cuau and Heinze getting face to face after Cuau was already talking shit to Heinze from the bench during the game.

[chungoman]

yeah, and some Argentines like to pretend this team is on par with Germany or Brazil just because it managed to beat Nigeria, South Korea, Greece and barely beat Mexico...

That's fine, play pretend all you want. This team isn't getting past Germany.

Yeah you would definitely love that.

I've never said we're better than Brazil or Germany, or that we played great today or whatever. I agree we played our worst game so far today. But dude, you take bitching to another level. Asking for yellow cards on your own country's players? LOL man, fucking embarrasing..

[Spurologist]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ptcy01.jpg

another reason I love football. Characters. :rollin

Heinze is prolly the big baby Davis of WC

[IronMexican]

I'm afraid Chicharito wont get the playing time he needs and wont grow as much. Like Gio did on Barca.

[Libri]

The next Mexican coach could be Marcelo Bielsa or Manuel de la Torre.

[Spurologist]

I'm afraid Chicharito wont get the playing time he needs and wont grow as much. Like Gio did on Barca.

As much as I hate Sir Alex, he knows how to use and develop young talent. He's done well with Rooney, Anderson, Nani and Ronaldo. All of them have been there for many years. What I know is he will get playing time and get a chance to prove himself. Heck even Danny Welbeck was getting good minutes at forward. If he doesn't perform, he might get loaned out.

[Dinamita]

I'm afraid Chicharito wont get the playing time he needs and wont grow as much. Like Gio did on Barca.

From what i've been reading he will get playing time.

[ElNono]

As much as I hate Sir Alex, he knows how to use and develop young talent. He's done well with Rooney, Anderson, Nani and Ronaldo. All of them have been there for many years. What I know is he will get playing time and get a chance to prove himself. Heck even Danny Welbeck was getting good minutes at forward. If he doesn't perform, he might get loaned out.

On the other hand, he took a Forlan and did nothing with him. It's yet to be seen if it's just a thing with South American players or America in general.

[ElNono]

http://i45.tinypic.com/2z86xy1.jpg

LOL Blanco

[IronMexican]

Argentina has to play a lot better if they want to beat Germany.

[TDMVPDPOY]

another reason I love football. Characters. :rollin

Heinze is prolly the big baby Davis of WC

his probably the biggest douche of them all, when u look at the arguments, his always there having his little chit chat with teh refs and shit when its clearly the ref wants to play on...

[Spurologist]

On the other hand, he took a Forlan and did nothing with him. It's yet to be seen if it's just a thing with South American players or America in general.

to add....most of my african friends hate him because he doesn't seem to like african players either. He doesn't seem to have one on the roster and I can't remember the last time he had one.

[DAF86]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ptcy01.jpg

lol, you can see the anger slowly building on Heinze's face.

[DAF86]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs062.snc4/34458_135173276501349_107749215910422_296448_65723 76_n.jpg

Proof that Tevez was onside.

[resistanze]

lol, you can see the anger slowly building on Heinze's face.

You mean rapidly building. It took all but 1 second for his frown to turn into a bitchslap. :lol

[IronMexican]

I just realized there wasn't even 1 guy back :lol


I still think the England call was wosse, cause the ref could have thought that Messi hit that in.

[Phenomanul]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs062.snc4/34458_135173276501349_107749215910422_296448_65723 76_n.jpg

Proof that Tevez was onside.

Is that Chavo del Ocho and Quico?

:lol

[DAF86]

Is that Chavo del Ocho and Quico?

:lol

Yep, the idols of my childhood.

[IronMexican]

I thought Chavo Del ocho was only big on Mexico.


Don Ramon for president.

[DAF86]

I thought Chavo Del ocho was only big on Mexico.


Don Ramon for president.

:tu That's by far my favorite character

And no, it's not only big in Mexico, "El Chavo" and "The Simpsons" are huge here, they're everywhere at everytime.

[Dinamita]

I just realized there wasn't even 1 guy back :lol


I still think the England call was wosse, cause the ref could have thought that Messi hit that in.

WHAT? Are you blind?

http://i48.tinypic.com/24qpg1w.jpg

[mystargtr34]

WHAT? Are you blind?

http://i48.tinypic.com/24qpg1w.jpg

:lol

[ElNono]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs062.snc4/34458_135173276501349_107749215910422_296448_65723 76_n.jpg

Proof that Tevez was onside.

:lol

[ElNono]

Argentina has to play a lot better if they want to beat Germany.

I concur. That said, Germany has to defend better than they did today also. England almost tied the game from 2 down in like a 5 minute span.
Also, Germans have not faced an offense like this so far either.

It's going to be a good test for both teams.

[rascal]

Yeah you would definitely love that.

I've never said we're better than Brazil or Germany, or that we played great today or whatever. I agree we played our worst game so far today. But dude, you take bitching to another level. Asking for yellow cards on your own country's players? LOL man, fucking embarrasing..

No, thats not what he wants but he sees flaws with the team that will take them down. He doesn't expect them to win but is still pulling for them to win.

[rascal]

Argentina flops as bad as Italy.

[rascal]

I concur. That said, Germany has to defend better than they did today also. England almost tied the game from 2 down in like a 5 minute span.
Also, Germans have not faced an offense like this so far either.

It's going to be a good test for both teams.

Germany has the better goalie.

[IronMexican]

BTW, 15 goals in 4 knockout stage matches.

Just read this. Wasn't there only like 32 gols through 24 games at some point in the WC?

[resistanze]

Just read this. Wasn't there only like 32 gols through 24 games at some point in the WC?

Yup something like that, it was the lowest scoring WC in history for a while (~1.6 goals a game at one point). People were blaming the ball, I guess we ca throw that excuse out. It's back to 2.23 goals per match, not far from last WC.

[DAF86]

Yup something like that, it was the lowest scoring WC in history for a while (~1.6 goals a game at one point). People were blaming the ball, I guess we ca throw that excuse out. It's back to 2.23 goals per match, not far from last WC.

Or we can think that players are getting used to it.

[NRHector]

WHAT? Are you blind?

http://i48.tinypic.com/24qpg1w.jpgeste wey :lol

[ElNono]

Germany has the better goalie.

How? Both goalies received just two goal in four games... That's if you don't count Lampard's...

I would definitely love to have Samuel back for the next game, but Romero has played pretty well so far, IMHO.

[ElNono]

The whole goal count is something that was bound to happen. Some of the 'better' teams (France, Italy, Portugal, England, Spain) just didn't start the cup well. But once it's win or go home and teams start taking risks, you're bound to see more scoring...

[DAF86]

Demichellis needs to sit, the only two goals we've received so far are his fault and he shows insecurity on every play he's involved defensively. With Otamendi, Burdisso, Samuel and Heinze we would have a more than solid defensive line.

[ElNono]

demichellis needs to sit, the only two goals we've received so far are his fault and he shows insecurity on every play he's involved defensively. With otamendi, burdisso, samuel and heinze we would have a more than solid defensive line.

+1000000

[ElNono]

Oh, and before this thread dies down...

LOL Bofo... :lmao

[MannyIsGod]

Man, rascal is the worst poster in this forum and that includes that dude that acts like Buddle's girlfriend.

[IronMexican]

Man, rascal is the worst poster in this forum and that includes that dude that acts like Buddle's girlfriend.

I don't know, man. Thinking you can pick up 2 yellows and be subbed out is about as dumb as anything I've ever read in my entire life ever.

[hater]

damn Mexico got mouth-raped

[resistanze]

Or we can think that players are getting used to it.

Then there was no real problem, was there? I don't think San Marino is gonna beat Brazil because of the Jabulani.