QF: Germany vs Argentina

[sefant77]

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3443/de8w.jpg


VS

http://images3.photomania.com/361838/1/rad7D8D0.gif

[sefant77]

Lets kick the asses of these sore losers again :toast:hat

[ElNono]

Lets kick the asses of these sore losers again :toast:hat

Who are you talking about? :lol

[scott]

Rematch of 2006 QF! Who is the Argentinian I had a sig bet with and then was a sore loser and posted a demeaning pic of the German flag in his sig after he lost?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Lets kick the asses of these sore losers again :toast:hat

aaah, I'm going to enjoy this game

Nothing quite like some German humble pie with a side order of crow :lol

[LakerHater]

I'll take:

http://www.films3d.com/world-cup/football-logos/pl_images/argentina.gif

4-2

[scott]

aaah, I'm going to enjoy this game

Nothing quite like some German humble pie with a side order of crow :lol

LOL! It was you! I still remember how much of a weak sore loser you were in 2006!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

LOL! It was you! I still remember how much of a weak sore loser you were in 2006!

The only sig bet I've made in this forum wasn't against you and it wasn't about football, so guess again.

[scott]

the bet said to fly a german flag, it said nothing of what else I could fly with it http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1075738#post1075738

[MaNuMaNiAc]

oh shit, I remember that now :lmao

but come man, be fair. In that same thread

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1075748&postcount=2853

Cheer up bro, Germany won fair and square, I was just making a joke. If it means that much to ya, I'll put a german flag as an avatar for the next week, how about that?

and I remember putting the avatar on

[scott]

It's all good :)

On a semi-related note... I can't believe I've been on this site since Day 1 and I only have 5000 posts!

[Sense]

I'm thinking 2-1

Germany

[MaNuMaNiAc]

It's all good :)

On a semi-related note... I can't believe I've been on this site since Day 1 and I only have 5000 posts!

I don't know, I'd say that's a good thing

Hey scott, how about another bet, this time sig bet, not avatar. If Germany wins I'll fly the german flag for a month, if Argentina wins you put a big, giant picture of Maradona in yours :lol

Sound fair?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

and no fuck u references this time, I promise :lol

[scott]

Sounds good - but this time winner picks the picture for the other guy to put in the sig.

Deal?

[ElNono]

I'll take Argentina 3-0, Alex.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Sounds good - but this time winner picks the picture for the other guy to put in the sig.

Deal?

yeah, why not. Deal

[MaNuMaNiAc]

By the way scott, are you German/American?

[ElNono]

I see a game much like the Germany-England or Chile-Brazil game, where the first team that scores is going to force the other team out, and then they'll finish it off on the counter. I'm just hoping Argentina will score first...

[ffadicted]

7 - 0 germany

[scott]

By the way scott, are you German/American?

I'm American of Mexican and German descent.

[ElNono]

I was listening today in the radio some mexican guy that was explaining that if there was a soccer game between Argentina and Aliens, and in play was the freedom of the planet Earth, 80% of the human population would still cheer for the Aliens... :lol

[ffadicted]

I was listening today in the radio some mexican guy that was explaining that if there was a soccer game between Argentina and Aliens, and in play was the freedom of the planet Earth, 80% of the human population would still cheer for the Aliens... :lol

Haters gon' hate I guess lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I was listening today in the radio some mexican guy that was explaining that if there was a soccer game between Argentina and Aliens, and in play was the freedom of the planet Earth, 80% of the human population would still cheer for the Aliens... :lol

:lol

[ElNono]

7 - 0 germany

http://9gag.com/photo/17942_540.jpg

[Brazil]

Cannot wait to see this classic again even if it's quite a shame to have this game so early

I'll go with germany, I think Argentina will have the ball possession and Germany will do what they did to England.

[ffadicted]

Cannot wait to see this classic again even if it's quite a shame to have this game so early

I'll go with germany, I think Argentina will have the ball possession and Germany will do what they did to England.

For a game to be dubbed a classic, it requires both teams to have a chance of winning tbh

[ElNono]

For a game to be dubbed a classic, it requires both teams to have a chance of winning tbh

Give Germany a chance. They might have a shot at this. :lol

[Brazil]

Give Germany a chance. They might have a shot at this. :lol

:rollin

[ffadicted]

Give Germany a chance. They might have a shot at this. :lol

touche :lol

[MB20]

I'll say it again. Argentina has a chance if they score 4 goals.
Germany will score 2 or more. Arg defense is not reliable.
We'll have to outscore them.

[urunobili]

Argentina 4-1

[Michi_Germany]

Germany 2-1

[MB20]

Will Samuel be back by saturday?
He is a key piece in our defense.

[ffadicted]

our defense.

:rolleyes

[ElNono]

Will Samuel be back by saturday?
He is a key piece in our defense.

I read he practiced normally with everybody else today. Keep your fingers crossed.

[ElNono]

:rolleyes

says the guy whose team received a goal by North Korea... :rolleyes

[ffadicted]

says the guy whose team received a goal by North Korea... :rolleyes

We didn't want to get on Kim Jong Il's bad side yo'

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIwNDgwMTY5NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNzg0OTM3._V1._ SX485_SY323_.jpg

[ElNono]

We didn't want to get on Kim Jong Il's bad side yo'

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIwNDgwMTY5NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNzg0OTM3._V1._ SX485_SY323_.jpg

lol I bet the NK news agency claimed he scored the goal himself :lol

[Spurologist]

Argentina 3-2

Messi
Klose
Messi
Podolski
Higuain

[MannyIsGod]

I don't know who to root for so I'm rooting for an amazing game.

[DAF86]

I remember the game we played some months ago in Germany and I can't bealive that that German team is practically the same to the one playing in this WC. They looked worst that North Korea that time and now they look like, well, Germany (but with more talent and flair than ever).

[DAF86]

http://momento24.com/en/2010/06/28/controversy-in-the-world-cup-ozil-would-have-adulterated-his-passport/

LOL

[DAF86]

Now, I'm hearing people say that Hiddink said it as a joke but the news is everywhere, can a German explain the situation?

[DAF86]

http://momento24.com/en/2010/06/28/the-photo-of-pamela-david-semi-naked-for-the-argentina/

Just for this, Argentina deserves a win. :D

[Sense]

http://momento24.com/en/2010/06/28/controversy-in-the-world-cup-ozil-would-have-adulterated-his-passport/

LOL

If this is true, God wants Argentina to win.

[ElNono]

I remember the game we played some months ago in Germany and I can't bealive that that German team is practically the same to the one playing in this WC. They looked worst that North Korea that time and now they look like, well, Germany (but with more talent and flair than ever).

Actually, the German team we beat in Germany also had Ballack and the goal keeper that's injured now. But this is the World Cup. Klose somehow manages to show up for these tournaments after sucking it up in club play all season long.

That said, they already lost a game. They can definitely be beat. Hope Argentina pulls it off.

[Dinamita]

Man of the Match

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/24/article-0-0A2C5E5B000005DC-666_468x548.jpg

[IronMexican]

Ozzil is getting too much hype. I think he might suck vs Arg.

[DAF86]

Ozzil is getting too much hype. I think he might suck vs Arg.

He's really good. Better than Ballack or any other German player, imho.

[Sense]

Ozzil is getting too much hype. I think he might suck vs Arg.


You'd lose if you were to bet on that.

Ozil has been great for the Germans

[boston.balla]

7 - 0 germany

not a bad prediction :lol

[boston.balla]

lol I bet the NK news agency claimed he scored the goal himself :lol

lol i even made a thread about that one :lol

[boston.balla]

sons argies is gonna get bullied .. i'm sorry you guys not makin the finals coz you'd be the best side for 3-0 traditional finals drubbing... you know what i'm sayin.

[DAF86]

Ozil isn't Turkish nor German, he's Argentinian.

Proof:


Ozil

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00048/ozil_200x300_48476a.jpg


Ozil's father: Nestor Kirchner

http://acalzonquitao.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/nestor-kirchner.jpg

[DesignatedT]

This game is goin to penalties.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

sons argies is gonna get bullied .. i'm sorry you guys not makin the finals coz you'd be the best side for 3-0 traditional finals drubbing... you know what i'm sayin.

well... Brazil would know about that, wouldn't they?

[Bukefal]

This is gonna be a good game :clap

[boston.balla]

well... Brazil would know about that, wouldn't they?

son there's no shame in being bullied by one of the greatest teams in nations football, but being favorites as argies so many times and still being bullied by brazil B/C team .. damn:lol

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Germany 3-2

Group D is going to go all the way to the final with Germany vs Ghana :smokin

[Streakyshooter08]

I think Argentinia is the favourite to win this game but Germany should have a decent chance if they manage to score the first goal. That said, I think the winner of this game has good chance to win it all.

I hope for a 2:1 for Germany!

May the better team win...

[sonic21]

Finally 2 favourites will play against each other. :tu

Should be a great game.

[ffadicted]

Finally 2 favourites will play against each other. :tu

Should be a great game.

:dizzy

[ElNono]

lol Brazil fans changing teams every week. As soon as they took off the Mexican shirt, they put on the German one.

[I'm dusting off my Holland shirt...:lol]

[ElNono]

Argentina is no favorite, according to Diego... :hat

[sonic21]

Lahm should exploit the duel against Heinze, i can't believe he's a starter. He didn't have a good year with Marseille.

[Dinamita]

http://s.glbimg.com/jo/g1/f/original/2010/06/29/polvo1.jpg

You're doomed argentina! The squid is never wrong!

[ffadicted]

lol Brazil fans changing teams every week. As soon as they took off the Mexican shirt, they put on the German one.

[I'm dusting off my Holland shirt...:lol]

lol I actually officially changed my citizenship to Mexican by eating a bunch of tacos before the game saturday.

[diego]

another reason south american teams > european ones- how many WC have euro teams won with nationalized players, how many nationalized players have played for south american teams?

this game will be very close, I also feel the team to score first will win. Germany will score at the very least 1, we really need to make at least 40% of our chances.

[mudyez]

our coach gets ready for argentina!!!

:rollin:rollin:rollin

d4MwKFz3Ip4

[ElNono]

http://s.glbimg.com/jo/g1/f/original/2010/06/29/polvo1.jpg

You're doomed argentina! The squid is never wrong!

lol this is what I'm going to do with the squid:

http://biggerthanyourhead.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/squid2.jpg

And eat it while I watch the game...

[mudyez]

another reason south american teams > european ones- how many WC have euro teams won with nationalized players, how many nationalized players have played for south american teams?

this game will be very close, I also feel the team to score first will win. Germany will score at the very least 1, we really need to make at least 40% of our chances.

Gabriel Heinze was born to a German father and an Italian mother.

[DAF86]

son there's no shame in being bullied by one of the greatest teams in nations football, but being favorites as argies so many times and still being bullied by brazil B/C team .. damn:lol

lol Brazilians still pulling the "B team" card, I already said this but I'll say it again, look at that Brazilian squad and look at the one in this WC, they're the same team with the exception of Kaka, that truth be told isn't making much of a difference in this WC, besides Julio Baptista (Kaka's replecement) was the guy that opened the score in that final.

[ElNono]

Fact: Brazil wants no part on a final with Argentina. Last time they met each other in a World Cup, it was Brazil fans :cry:cry:cry after the game.

http://www.vivadiego.com/mcani90.gif

[nkdlunch]

Let's take our homer glasses for a second. And we will see Germany although are very dangerous, has YET to play a competitive team.

Anybody who says Argentina is not the clear favorite is smoking hard crack. Argentina should easily win this one in regulation.

that being said if Argentina defense is shaky in any way, the Germans will make them pay. their forwards are extremely dangerous.

I don't see this Argentina team with Tevez + Messi losing to these young german guns. It would definitely be a huge upset. But.... not gonna happen.

[DAF86]

Let's take our homer glasses for a second. And we will see Germany although are very dangerous, has YET to play a competitive team.

Anybody who says Argentina is not the clear favorite is smoking hard crack. Argentina should easily win this one in regulation.

that being said if Argentina defense is shaky in any way, the Germans will make them pay. their forwards are extremely dangerous.

I don't see this Argentina team with Tevez + Messi losing to these young german guns. It would definitely be a huge upset. But.... not gonna happen.

lol, this isn't going to be easy for anybody.

[Bukefal]

our coach gets ready for argentina!!!

:rollin:rollin:rollin

d4MwKFz3Ip4

:lol

[nkdlunch]

lol, this isn't going to be easy for anybody.

so far it's definitely looked easy for Brazil + Argentina. Vs. Germany will be a little tougher, but not much more.

[ElNono]

Agree with DAF... at this stage in the competition, every game is hard as shit.
That said, the expectation going in was that this Argentina team would suck a whole lot and might not even get out of the group stage, so everything past that right now is pure gravy.

[nkdlunch]

goddam that video is disgusting. nasty germans

[sonic21]

Argentina's D is weaker, Germany is playing a better football but Argentina has Messi, Tevez and Higuain. 50/50.

[mudyez]

Let's take our homer glasses for a second. And we will see Germany although are very dangerous, has YET to play a competitive team.

Anybody who says Argentina is not the clear favorite is smoking hard crack. Argentina should easily win this one in regulation.

that being said if Argentina defense is shaky in any way, the Germans will make them pay. their forwards are extremely dangerous.

I don't see this Argentina team with Tevez + Messi losing to these young german guns. It would definitely be a huge upset. But.... not gonna happen.

germany can live with the underdog role!
its a little bit like the spurs where several years ago: dont like to be the favs too much, but work well as a team to be stronger than people think (the usual "bla bla bla...equals more than the sum of its parts" thing). if I had to bet on a team, I'd take argentina, but not by much. argentina's defense is shaky (demichelis plays for the german national champion and is kind of the laughing stock there) and if germany can hit them early via good, fast attacks (like they did in previous games), they have a nice chance to win it.

when seeing a team, people tend to only see the offense...and that is argentinas weakness (germany didn't look that good in this regard as well)...I'm pretty sure, we will see a lot of goals in this one (over/under is at 2.5 and you are insane, if you take the under!)

and if germany is out, you can bet I'm for the maradona squad!

[lefty]

Germany FTW

[ElNono]

Argentina's D is weaker, Germany is playing a better football but Argentina has Messi, Tevez and Higuain. 50/50.

I'm not sold our defense is weaker at all when we're playing 4 guys at the back.
I think that thought has been overly exaggerated. Demichelis so far has been basically the only liability, and adding Samuel should make the defense even more solid. What is really thin for Argentina is the midfield, but after watching all 5 games, I'm starting to get convinced that it's by design, so we move quickly from defense to attack, seeing that we've very quick guys upfront.

[ElNono]

Demichelis should sit down and let Samuel play now that he recovered. Also, whoever scores first is going to have a huge advantage.

[mudyez]

goddam that video is disgusting. nasty germans

I have more for you :downspin:

CfMDNLh7AU0

[NRHector]

I have more for you :downspin:

CfMDNLh7AU0:lol

[DAF86]

If Maradona puts Otamendi, Burdisso, Samuel and Heinze on the back I'll be more than comfortable with our defensive line.

[sonic21]

I'm not sold our defense is weaker at all when we're playing 4 guys at the back.
I think that thought has been overly exaggerated. Demichelis so far has been basically the only liability, and adding Samuel should make the defense even more solid. What is really thin for Argentina is the midfield, but after watching all 5 games, I'm starting to get convinced that it's by design, so we move quickly from defense to attack, seeing that we've very quick guys upfront.

well, i saw Heinze play this year in France and he's a liability against speedy player. Ozil, Lahm... will give him trouble.

[DAF86]

well, i saw Heinze play this year in France and he's a liability against speedy player. Ozil, Lahm... will give him trouble.

I'm a big time Heinze hater but I gotta admit he has been playing really well during this WC.

[mudyez]

well, i saw Heinze play this year in France and he's a liability against speedy player. Ozil, Lahm... will give him trouble.

argentinas right side defense is pretty weak, but we don't have dribblers for that side (Lahm, Müller are on the right attack side and özil is in the center...most of the time tending to be a little further right as well)...on our left side podolsky can light up the scoreboard but nothing more.

the whole strategie of the german team (aside from counter attacks) is to load the right attack side and have poldy "spacing the other side"...problem is: most opposing teams have the better defenders on that exact same side!

[DAF86]

argentinas right side defense is pretty weak, but we don't have dribblers for that side (Lahm, Müller are on the right attack side and özil is in the center...most of the time tending to be a little further right as well)...on our left side podolsky can light up the scoreboard but nothing more.

the whole strategie of the german team (aside from counter attacks) is to load the right attack side and have poldy "spacing the other side"...problem is: most opposing teams have the better defenders on that exact same side!

That was true when Gutierrez was playing as a right back, now with Otamendi is another thing, he has been our best player in the last two games we've played (the only two he has played).

My only concern in the back is Demichellis, I hope Maradona realizes this and subs him.

[mudyez]

That was true when Gutierrez was playing as a right back, now with Otamendi is another thing, he has been our best player in the last two games we've played (the only two he has played).

My only concern in the back is Demichellis, I hope Maradona realizes this and subs him.

as I said: the right defensive side wont be challenged at all...in germany everybody loves Podolski but we also know, that he has only one skill: shooting...and even there he didnt look that good vs. Serbia.

good thing if Demichelis plays: Lahm, Müller, Klose, Schweinsteiger, Podolski know him from Bayern Munich (of course vice versa too)...so basically oll of our attack knows where the weakness is.

[ElNono]

It's going to be very interesting indeed... Podolski played almost as a full back against England, and he shouldn't need to stay that far back against Argentina. On the other hand, Lahm is going to have to be careful going up with Di Maria playing on his back.

[quentin_compson]

Well, if I were Argentine, I would cringe at Demichelis possibly playing. But the Germans have had their shaky moments on the defensive end as well. And the left back will probably be a weakness, no matter who Löw is going to trot out.

Well, should be an interesting game. But I see Argentina taking it.

[mudyez]

It's going to be very interesting indeed... Podolski played almost as a full back against England, and he shouldn't need to stay that far back against Argentina. On the other hand, Lahm is going to have to be careful going up with Di Maria playing on his back.

Germanys defense is pretty weak on its left side (behind Podolski) Badstuber didnt look good and Boateng also isnt that great (we basically dont have a left back aside from Jnsen, which hasnt played a game for 3-4 months now)...after out first few games, everybody told Poldi to help there and that makes sense for me, as he will be on his prefered offensive position (hanging a little behind on the left sid) in time.

Another problem might be Mertesacker...He probably is our best full back, but dindt look well the least few games. Schweinsteiger will have to help a lot.

[Spur_Fanatic]

I have friends on both sides, so I'll just hope for a good game, and may the best team win.

[Muser]

Germany 3-2

lol italy.

[ffadicted]

with the exception of Kaka, that truth be told isn't making much of a difference in this WC

Dude, what, c'mon lol

[diego]

Gabriel Heinze was born to a German father and an Italian mother.

in argentina.

for germany:
klose- born in poland, polish parents
podolski- born in poland, polish parents
cacau- born in brazil, brazilian parents

sure, they chose to nationalize. I'm not saying germany forced them. but I'll be very impressed if you find me a single player not born in brazil/argentina to have played for them. Italy, Germany, holland, france have more than a few.

[DAF86]

in argentina.

for germany:
klose- born in poland, polish parents
podolski- born in poland, polish parents
cacau- born in brazil, brazilian parents

sure, they chose to nationalize. I'm not saying germany forced them. but I'll be very impressed if you find me a single player not born in brazil/argentina to have played for them. Italy, Germany, holland, france have more than a few.

Change born to raised, 'cause they will shit all over you with Higuain.

[lefty]

Germany 3-2

lol italy.
:lol

[mudyez]

thats the fun thing with germany:

klose (poland)
podolski (poland)
özil (turkey)
khedira (tunesia)
aogo (nigeria)
boateng (ghana)
tasci (turkey)
trochowski (poland)
cacau (brazil)
gomez (spain)

nice lineup isnt it?

I love our team!

thats some of their parents:
gBzJWF8-E74

[lefty]

thats the fun thing with germany:

klose (poland)
podolski (poland)
özil (turkey)
khedira (tunesia)
aogo (nigeria)
boateng (ghana)
tasci (turkey)
trochowski (poland)
cacau (brazil)
gomez (spain)

nice lineup isnt it?

I love our team!

thats some of their parents:
gBzJWF8-E74

Reminds me of France 98

[Michi_Germany]

in argentina.

for germany:
klose- born in poland, polish parents
podolski- born in poland, polish parents
cacau- born in brazil, brazilian parents

sure, they chose to nationalize. I'm not saying germany forced them. but I'll be very impressed if you find me a single player not born in brazil/argentina to have played for them. Italy, Germany, holland, france have more than a few.

Kloses father is german, his mother is polish. And he was born in a former german territory.
Podolskis parents are both polish, he was also born in a former german territory, his parents emigrated to Germany when he was 2 years old. So it's no surprise that he sees germany as it's homecountry.

With Cacau you're right and even I don't understand why he plays for the german team. He didn't grow up in germany, has no german origin, but he got the german citizenship in 2009.

[mudyez]

Kloses father is german, his mother is polish. And he was born in a former german territory.
Podolskis parents are both polish, he was also born in a former german territory, his parents emigrated to Germany when he was 2 years old. So it's no surprise that he sees germany as it's homecountry.

With Cacau you're right and even I don't understand why he plays for the german team. He didn't grow up in germany, has no german origin, but he got the german citizenship in 2009.

there is a lot of "former german territory" :rolleyes

[Michi_Germany]

thats the fun thing with germany:

klose (poland)
podolski (poland)
özil (turkey)
khedira (tunesia)
aogo (nigeria)
boateng (ghana)
tasci (turkey)
trochowski (poland)
cacau (brazil)
gomez (spain)

nice lineup isnt it?

I love our team!

thats some of their parents:
gBzJWF8-E74

All of them, except Cacau, were born in Germany or grew up here. it's just a refelction of our society - Germany is a country of Immigration.

[mudyez]

All of them, except Cacau, were born in Germany or grew up here. it's just a refelction of our society - Germany is a country of Immigration.

it wasnt ment to be offensive!

I'm from germany too (just cant find the option to put the flag in...so if someone can tell me, your appreciated!!!)!

I love how our team looks like...Wouldnt trade them for "Schmits" and "Maiers"!

[Michi_Germany]

there is a lot of "former german territory" :rolleyes

I'm not talking about occupation. The territory I'm talking about was german from 1500-1945...

[mudyez]

I'm not talking about occupation. The territory I'm talking about was german from 1500-1945...

I know...just couldn't withstand! :)

[Michi_Germany]

it wasnt ment to be offensive!

I'm from germany too (just cant find the option to put the flag in...so if someone can tell me, your appreciated!!!)!

I love how our team looks like...Wouldnt trade them for "Schmits" and "Maiers"!

Just send Timvp a message and ask for your flag. There's no other option to activate it.

[easy7]

ARRIBA ESPANA CABRONES!!! :hat :lmao

[DAF86]

Let the good guys win :D


http://www.deportesadictos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/manu-ginobili.jpg

VS.

http://nachodonut.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dirk_nowitzki1.jpg

[Michi_Germany]

Let the good guys win :D


http://www.deportesadictos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/manu-ginobili.jpg

VS.

http://nachodonut.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dirk_nowitzki1.jpg

That's unfair! :nope When this is the choice I'd always pick #20!

[mudyez]

Just send Timvp a message and ask for your flag. There's no other option to activate it.

thanks!

[diego]

i didnt mean to single out germany with my comment, but its clear that more european teams nationalize players than south american teams. We can get all technical with motives, borders, mixed parents etc etc but bottom line you'll be lucky to find 10 examples, of whichever composition, in all south american teams' history, vs several examples of whichever composition in EACH WC for european teams.

[ElNono]

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[Michi_Germany]

i didnt mean to single out germany with my comment, but its clear that more european teams nationalize players than south american teams. We can get all technical with motives, borders, mixed parents etc etc but bottom line you'll be lucky to find 10 examples, of whichever composition, in all south american teams' history, vs several examples of whichever composition in EACH WC for european teams.
Perhaps your right and the european nationalteams are more "international" than the south american teams. But as I pointed out in most cases it has nothing to do with searching for good players and give them a german passport. Most of the players are born in Germany. So they are germans although their parents are turkish, spanish or whatever.
And players with mixed parents have to make their decision for one country. Some take the country they live in and grew up, like Özil for Germany, Montolivio for Italy and so on. Some players take the homecountry of their fathers, like Kevin Boateng and Ghana or Nuri Sahin and Turkey, - or Lucas Barrios for Paraguay.
For other countries like England or France you have to keep in mind the historical background with all their former colonies.

[Sportstudi]

Kloses father is german, his mother is polish. And he was born in a former german territory.
Podolskis parents are both polish, he was also born in a former german territory, his parents emigrated to Germany when he was 2 years old. So it's no surprise that he sees germany as it's homecountry.

With Cacau you're right and even I don't understand why he plays for the german team. He didn't grow up in germany, has no german origin, but he got the german citizenship in 2009.

It's not only the fact of being born in Upper Silesia (Gliwice for Podolski and Opole for Klose), but also in both cases the parents belonged to the German minority within that particular area. That's why the parents got the status as so called resettlers ("Aussiedler") after their emigration to Germany.

[ElNono]

I have massive respect for Germany (overall... the country, citizens, culture, team, everything). Their team always plays hard, they don't foul much, and is always very well organized. I'm sure they're going to give Argentina a tough match.

[diego]

Perhaps your right and the european nationalteams are more "international" than the south american teams. But as I pointed out in most cases it has nothing to do with searching for good players and give them a german passport. Most of the players are born in Germany. So they are germans although their parents are turkish, spanish or whatever.
And players with mixed parents have to make their decision for one country. Some take the country they live in and grew up, like Özil for Germany, Montolivio for Italy and so on. Some players take the homecountry of their fathers, like Kevin Boateng and Ghana or Nuri Sahin and Turkey, - or Lucas Barrios for Paraguay.
For other countries like England or France you have to keep in mind the historical background with all their former colonies.

yes, and many times they choose the nationality of the team where they have the better chance to play, and sometimes where they have the better chance to win. if i'm not mistaken podolski and klose's parents were athletes that represented poland internationally, which is why I assumed they are both 100% polish. I already said its the players/agents that are behind this, not the federations.

in any case my point stands- european teams are strengthened by nationalized players, otherwise they wouldn't be called up.

also, I will echo elnono, i have tons of respect for the german NT. it seems like they always make at least semis, many times without well known players- that speaks volumes about their depth, understanding of the game, toughness and commitment. also, a lot of respect for brehme for admitting the foul didnt exist in the 90 wc

we're in for a great game, may the best team win

[LakerHater]

Ozzil is getting too much hype. I think he might suck vs Arg.

http://i50.tinypic.com/6rmx5l.jpg

[Michi_Germany]

also, a lot of respect for brehme for admitting the foul didnt exist in the 90 wc

we're in for a great game, may the best team win

Everybody saw that it wasn't a penalty. But to be fair - there was a situation before where the ref should have given a penalty. But it's 20 years ago and i think the better team won that time.

BTW - my prediction for champion before the WC started: Argentina ;-)

[sefant77]

How many players with indian roots playing for Argentina? :D

I say 60:40 chances for Argentina. Their defense (Demi) is always good to fuck it up (watched too many Bayern games last year), same with the german.

Argentinas offense has the bigger names but everything can happen (just remember spain-switzerland) and germany has the quality to punish every small mistake.

First goal wins the game...

[sefant77]

The better team won 1986, the better team won 1990.

The foul on Augenthaler should have been the real penalty. I remember whole Argentina talking about how the ref "stole" their cup. Germany was better in this game, i hope finally 20 years later most of the ppl in argentina realized it too ;)

[velik_m]

Based on their games in this tournament, this will be finals before the finals.

Should be an awesome game.

[ffadicted]

Based on their games in this tournament, this will be finals before the finals.

Should be an awesome game.

:rolleyes

:vomit:

[boston.balla]

:rolleyes

:vomit:

that's right son, gased on their games it should be germany ass whoopin mexico:lol

[ffadicted]

that's right son, gased on their games it should be germany ass whoopin mexico:lol

Damn right my man, I'm already practicing my german for saturday

Herzlichen Glückwunsch Deutschland!

:danceclub

[Sportstudi]

if i'm not mistaken podolski and klose's parents were athletes that represented poland internationally, which is why I assumed they are both 100% polish.

as I wrote before, both parents belonged to the german minority in upper silesia. they represented poland internationally, true, but nevertheless, they had german roots.



also, I will echo elnono, i have tons of respect for the german NT. it seems like they always make at least semis, many times without well known players- that speaks volumes about their depth, understanding of the game, toughness and commitment. also, a lot of respect for brehme for admitting the foul didnt exist in the 90 wc

yes, it wasn't a penalty. however, as sefant wrote, it was a kind of a compensation for the not given penalty after augenthaler was clearly fouled in the box (around 65th minute I guess). I recall reading a comment in a book back in 1990. the author wrote that the refs' decision to call the decisive penatly "was not fair, but equitable". I still can't understand why so many argentineans still believe they were robbed. germany was clearly the better team throughout the entire final and they deserved the win.


we're in for a great game, may the best team win

cosigned.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I have a feeling all of Brazil is going to be chanting "so what? 5 championships! you can't fuck with that" by Friday...

[MB20]

germany was clearly the better team throughout the entire final and they deserved the win.


Germany was the better team throughout that WC, but we left out Brazil (luckiest game ever for us) and Italy (playing at home).
So we were a good team too.
Anyway, you deserved to win. Penalty or not.


This time, Germany has looked better so far, but never count us out.

[Sportstudi]

Germany was the better team throughout that WC, but we left out Brazil (luckiest game ever for us) and Italy (playing at home).
So we were a good team too.
Anyway, you deserved to win. Penalty or not.

Of course Argentina was a good team in 1990, too. To beat Brazil and Italy (at home) was quite impressive. Yeah, against Brazil you had some luck (I recall several times the Brazilians hitting the bar and the post), but luck is part of the game.

I just watched those two red cards (Monzon, Dezotti) against you on youtube. Can't believe that still many people on youtube (probably Argentineans, sorry to say) are still bitching about them. Monzon jumped into Klinsmann with outstretched legs and without a chance to hit the ball. Dezotti choked Kohler. Both scences are clearly visible. If these two are not a red card, I don't what is.



This time, Germany has looked better so far, but never count us out.

If someone calls you out, he/she must be on crack.

[MB20]

I just watched those two red cards (Monzon, Dezotti) against you on youtube. Can't believe that still many people on youtube (probably Argentineans, sorry to say) are still bitching about them. Monzon jumped into Klinsmann with outstretched legs and without a chance to hit the ball. Dezotti choked Kohler. Both scences are clearly visible. If these two are not a red card, I don't what is.


That foul by Monzon was ridiculous. The red card was well deserved.
First player EVER to receive a red card in a final game of a WC. :downspin:

I don´t remember Dezzoti´s ejection. ( Why did Dezzoti play that game? lol Was it because Caniggia was suspended?)

[Michi_Germany]

Germany was the better team throughout that WC, but we left out Brazil (luckiest game ever for us) and Italy (playing at home).
So we were a good team too.
Anyway, you deserved to win. Penalty or not.


This time, Germany has looked better so far, but never count us out.

I don't agree that Germany looked better so far. They had two impressive games - against Australia (a team you have to beat!) and England. But you have to keep in mind that England was clearly not a contender. England is always named as a frontrunner before World Cups but they never showed up. One semifinal the last 40 years is not very impressive.
England played poorly in all group stages games so it was no surprise that they lost the game against Germany.

I expect a very close game. Either team can beat the other one. Perhaps Argentina is the slightly favorite in this match.

[Sportstudi]

That foul by Monzon was ridiculous. The red card was well deserved.
First player EVER to receive a red card in a final game of a WC. :downspin:

I don´t remember Dezzoti´s ejection. ( Why did Dezzoti play that game? lol Was it because Caniggia was suspended?)

Yeah, you could be right. Caniggia was suspended due to a yellow card in the semis. Concerning the fouls:

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IMO, both suspensions were well deserved.

[nkdlunch]

I have a feeling all of Brazil is going to be chanting "so what? 5 championships! you can't fuck with that" by Friday...

5 rings puto?

[DAF86]

In 1990 Argentina didn't deserve to be in the final based on the play they displayed during that tournament but in the final Codesal screwed us over, there's no other way around it, not only for the invented penalty but also for a penalty that didn't call in favour of Argentina prior to the goal.

And I don't know what non-called penalty in favour of Germany you're talking about but if it's the play around the 2:10 mark on this video, let me say that I don't see a penalty there. The play that I'm talking about is around the 3:00 mark, look how that German player sweeps Calderon's leg inside the box.


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Like I said, Argentina didn't deserve to get that far in that WC but you can't say that Codesal didn't favour Germany on that final.

[Sportstudi]

In 1990 Argentina didn't deserve to be in the final based on the play they displayed during that tournament but in the final Codesal screwed us over, there's no other way around it, not only for the invented penalty but also for a penalty that didn't call in favour of Argentina prior to the goal.

And I don't know what non-called penalty in favour of Germany you're talking about but if it's the play around the 2:10 mark on this video, let me say that I don't see a penalty there. The play that I'm talking about is around the 3:00 mark, look how that German player sweeps Calderon's leg inside the box.

Like I said, Argentina didn't deserve to get that far in that WC but you can't say that Codesal didn't favour Germany on that final.

Pleasen DAF. Normally, I remembered you here as a fair member of this board, but now you can' be serious.

If you really think that the play at 3:00 is worth a penalty and the one at 2:10 is not, you are, sorry to say, a clear homer. Either you say both are not worthy to be awarded a penalty or both are. And the two red cards for Argentina were well deserved. Look at the videos above and if you think both Monzon and Dezotti shouldn't be suspended I don't know what to say...

Edit: I have to say that I have seen a couple of videos so far from different angles about this incident during the last 20 years. Probably not on this video you posted, but on other ones it was clearly visible that Goycochea jammed Augenthaler's leg between his own ones. If you haven't seen other videos of this incident yet, I apologize. But please do so and you will know what I mean.

[DAF86]

Pleasen DAF. Normally, I remembered you here as a fair member of this board, but now you can' be serious.

If you really think that the play at 3:00 is worth a penalty and the one at 2:10 is not, you are, sorry to say, a clear homer. Either you say both are not worthy to be awarded a penalty or both are. And the two red cards for Argentina were well deserved. Look at the videos above and if you think both Monzon and Dezotti shouldn't be suspended I don't know what to say...

Edit: I have to say that I have seen a couple of videos so far from different angles about this incident during the last 20 years. Probably not on this video you posted, but on other ones it was clearly visible that Goycochea jammed Augenthaler's leg between his own ones. If you haven't seen other videos of this incident yet, I apologize. But please do so and you will know what I mean.

I didn't say anything about Monzon or Dezotti, they were both well "red carded". I'm talking about those penalties. That Calderon one looks like he clearly got his leg swept, maybe others can give their opinion. And about the Augenthaler one, no I haven't seen other angles from that play (if you can, please provide them 'cause I can't find them) but in this video it looks like a big time flop to me, again maybe others can give their opinion.

[Sportstudi]

I didn't say anything about Monzon or Dezotti, they were both well "red carded". I'm talking about those penalties. That Calderon one looks like he clearly got his leg swept, maybe others can give their opinion. And about the Augenthaler one, no I haven't seen other angles from that play (if you can, please provide them 'cause I can't find them) but in this video it looks like a big time flop to me, again maybe others can give their opinion.

If I find any video showing other angles of that incident on youtube, I will post it here. :)

There were some concerning that incident on youtube a few years earlier, but probably they have been deleted by now. I have to add that I saw a couple of years ago some of those videos showing other angles just on normal television and not on youtube. Thus, it would be a bit difficult to post them here. But again, if I find one or more, I will add them here.

[diego]

yes Im aware of the other play that should have been a penalty, but two wrongs dont make a right. its very different to get a penalty against you at the 65th minute, then for it to happen at the 90th. thats why 20 years later that final hurts so bad- not because argentina deserved to win or was the best of the tournament... but because we were very close to pulling it out against all odds and had it yanked at the last second by the ref.

ref errors are a part of all sports, but they always hurt more in the last minutes because you dont have a chance to overcome them.

[Sportstudi]

yes Im aware of the other play that should have been a penalty, but two wrongs dont make a right. its very different to get a penalty against you at the 65th minute, then for it to happen at the 90th. thats why 20 years later that final hurts so bad- not because argentina deserved to win or was the best of the tournament... but because we were very close to pulling it out against all odds and had it yanked at the last second by the ref.

ref errors are a part of all sports, but they always hurt more in the last minutes because you dont have a chance to overcome them.

That penalty was awarded in minute 84. Sure, it was close to the end, but not impossible to score the equalizer.

[boston.balla]

sons i predict germany goes on a huge offensive jizz.

7-0 you saw it here first!

[ElNono]

sons i predict germany goes on a huge offensive jizz.

7-0 you saw it here first!

lol son, Germany already jizzed prematurely all over the brits. Time to send them back home...

[LakerHater]

sons i predict germany goes on a huge offensive jizz.

NO WAY! :lol

http://i45.tinypic.com/16q8f6.jpg

[ElNono]

NO WAY! :lol

http://i45.tinypic.com/16q8f6.jpg

:lmao

[boston.balla]

NO WAY! :lol

http://i45.tinypic.com/16q8f6.jpg


son i don't understand what argies love so much about men with long hair all looking like wedding singers... but hey, it's maradona's team he should know best!

[boston.balla]

I have a feeling all of Brazil is going to be chanting "so what? 5 championships! you can't fuck with that" by Friday...

son we got alot of these :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:in brasil. Tho i really hope we win cause we'd be the first country to repeat since the tournament is serious (after ww2) ... oh damn .. we already did that....and nobody else of course :lol

[symple19]

son we got alot of these :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:in brasil. Tho i really hope we win cause we'd be the first country to repeat since the tournament is serious (after ww2) ... oh damn .. we already did that....and nobody else of course :lol

lol @ bitches who use american vernacular to explain their country's greatness

Balla? tho'? really? You're trying soooooooooooooooooo hard to be american. It's cute

[symple19]

son i don't understand what argies love so much about men with long hair all looking like wedding singers... but hey, it's maradona's team he should know best!

and hopefully the Argentines will stuff your boots right back in your mouth, where they belong.

Please, post some more nonsense on my profile page, bitch

[symple19]

lol, boston balla... or is it, "brasilia balla?" Do you enjoy fronting on american boards?

None of the Argentines pull that shit, possibly because they aren't questioning their manhood.

Do you enjoy acting like a black american on this board?

[symple19]

regardless of my throwdown with maniac, I'm pulling for the Argentines, all the way.

[boston.balla]

regardless of my throwdown with maniac, I'm pulling for the Argentines, all the way.

son I have citizinship even if I've lived there when i was 0-5 years and I root for the country I always have rooted through natural rights. So stfu lil college girl.

[boston.balla]

lol @ bitches who use american vernacular to explain their country's greatness

Balla? tho'? really? You're trying soooooooooooooooooo hard to be american. It's cute

son have you ever talked to anybody not american. You'd be surprised. So get out the ranch, leave the cows there and visit a town or two. You're full of blind hate. I'll have none of that.:nope

[ElNono]

son I have citizinship even if I've lived there when i was 0-5 years and I root for the country I always have rooted through natural rights. So stfu lil college girl.

lol, are you talking about the US or Brazil? :lmao

[boston.balla]

lol, boston balla... or is it, "brasilia balla?" Do you enjoy fronting on american boards?

None of the Argentines pull that shit, possibly because they aren't questioning their manhood.

Do you enjoy acting like a black american on this board?

son my father is black and my mother is white. I was born in boston. I live in europe. I play football and basketball since I was 10. I enjoy a little smack talk with the argies but i like their team and hope to met them in the finals and I like the argie posters... world cup is one at 4 years it's not your yearly superbowl.

I'm talking this on an all-sport forum that is hosted in motherfucking slovenia as far as I know.

I understand a faggot like you lacks a cock to suck in this economic depression but you're a sad little college cunt even by the aforementioned standard. god bless your lost soul.

[boston.balla]

lol, are you talking about the US or Brazil? :lmao

us .. i was in brasil some time ago but only for business purposes but that was it. Too used to europe to live on any other continent, though i come to us quite frequently.

[ElNono]

us .. i was in brasil some time ago but only for business purposes but that was it. Too used to europe to live on any other continent, though i come to us quite frequently.

son, I was in Paris a while back and it's a beautiful city, despite domenech and anelka. I still have family in Italy that I gotta go visit at some point.

You're not going to get an argument from me about europe, except for their trash football...

lol France
lol Italy

[resistanze]

Germans: Argentina shows no respect
Associated Press

ERASMIA, South Africa -- Germany midfielder Bastian Schweinsteiger accuses World Cup quarterfinals rival Argentina of showing no respect for opponents and referees, and urges his teammates not to be provoked.

Germany eliminated Argentina on penalty kicks four years ago at the same stage and there were chaotic scenes after the shootout, with both sides exchanging punches and kicks in a fracas that included team officials from both benches.

Soccer Fracas 2006 World Cup
The fracas at the end of Germany's 2006 World Cup win over Argentina has not been forgotten, German players said Wednesday.

"The shootout is still in our memory, but what really weighs heavily on our minds is what happened after that match," Schweinsteiger said Wednesday. "We have to remain calm and not get provoked and I hope the referee will be very alert.

"You could see their behavior at halftime of the game against Mexico. When you look at their body language and gesticulations, the way they try to influence the referees, they have no respect. It's their mentality and character and we'll have to adjust."

Mexico and Argentina players had to be separated as they headed for the tunnel at halftime of the teams' second-round game, with the Mexicans furious over Argentina's first goal that came when scorer Carlos Tevez clearly was offside.

Argentina won 3-1.

Schweinsteiger also accused Argentine fans of taking the places of others in the stadiums and refusing to move. It was not clear where he got his evidence from.

But the midfielder praised Argentina as a team, saying the squad coached by Diego Maradona was better in "every sector" than the team Germany beat four years ago.

Germany's team page
For more about Germany and its chances in South Africa this summer, click here.

Schweinsteiger singled out veteran Juan Sebastian Veron.

"He has played very strongly here. I have been impressed," Schweinsteiger said.

Schweinsteiger repeated that stopping Argentina star Lionel Messi will need a strong "collective effort."

"Other teams also have done it. He hasn't scored yet and we want to keep it that way," said Schweinsteiger, who has played 78 games for Germany although he is still just 25.

"We'll find the right game plan to hurt Argentina, although we know how strong Argentina is. At this level, you can't make mistakes, it's the details that decide the match."

Thomas Mueller, who scored twice against England, could be the deciding factor in the match, which might be embarrassing to Maradona.

By now, he should have heard of Mueller. The last time Argentina played Germany in a friendly in March, Maradona felt so slighted when Mueller sat on the podium with him at the postmatch news conference that he stormed off and refused to return until Mueller left the stage to the coach alone.

Mueller had just made his debut for Germany then. Now, he leads his team at the World Cup with three goals.

Argentina's team page
For more about Argentina and its chances in South Africa this summer, click here.

Coach Joachim Loew said forward Cacau is unlikely to recover from a right thigh injury in time for the match.

Argentina beat Germany 1-0 with relative ease in that March friendly in Munich. Schweinsteiger said that result meant little.

"One, it was a friendly. Two, they did not create many chances either. Three, we have gained a lot of confidence by beating England and the good tactics we used in that game," Schweinsteiger said.

Germany advanced to the quarterfinal with a 4-1 win.

Schweinsteiger said he expected the upcoming match to be a tactical affair, "just as it was in 2006."

Argentina has only one win over Germany at the World Cup, in the 1986 final when Maradona was still playing. Overall in the World Cup, they have met five times and twice in the final.

Maradona led Argentina to that 3-2 win in Mexico, while in Italy in 1990, Germany won 1-0 on a penalty kick. Those were also the last times either team won the World Cup.

Germany won a group match 3-1 in 1958 and the two teams drew 0-0 in another group match in 1966.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5342296/ce/us/germany-bastian-schweinsteiger-says-argentina-shows-no-respect?cc=5901&ver=us

[resistanze]

:ihit

[ElNono]

lol u mad Schweinsteiger?

[ElNono]

Damnit, Messi is sick, has a nasal congestion and had a fever which made him miss today's practice... :bang

Get well for saturday!

[Streakyshooter08]

To be fair. The quotes from Schweinsteiger are not very well translated. He did not say that the Argentina doesn't show respect in general.

He said it more in the context that in his opinion "trying to influence the refs" does not belong to the game and is respectless. The media alwasy goes for those things. It was not really a big deal.

I hope Messi will be healthy. I want both teams at full strengh (even though Cacau will probably not play) and the better team to win without mistakes by the refs...

[ffadicted]

balla does have a point, dudes from argentina do seem to have long hair a lot of the time lol

[ElNono]

balla does have a point, dudes from argentina do seem to have long hair a lot of the time lol

What are you, the fashion police now? :lol

[ElNono]

To be fair. The quotes from Schweinsteiger are not very well translated. He did not say that the Argentina doesn't show respect in general.

He said it more in the context that in his opinion "trying to influence the refs" does not belong to the game and is respectless. The media alwasy goes for those things. It was not really a big deal.

I hope Messi will be healthy. I want both teams at full strengh (even though Cacau will probably not play) and the better team to win without mistakes by the refs...

I figured as much. They do the same thing the other way around.

[hater]

LOL long hair smack.

haven't heard that since 5th grade

[DAF86]

lol bitching about "trying to influence the refs" while trying to influence the refs.

[sefant77]

Maybe he is a Lakers fan :D

[DAF86]

Lahm: "... I want to see how they behave on saturday after they lose to us"

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wcarticleshow/6115644.cms

lol WTF? What have these German players been smoking? Are they trying to play mind games? I didn't know there were so many classless little bitches in the German squad.

[DAF86]

The only thing these guys are gaining with this, it's another finish with incidents and I'm sure they will end up playing the inocent card when actually they're the ones starting fire. Hypocrisy at its finest.

[sefant77]

What? Its still a big thing what happened. And you should be the last guy naming other players "little bitches". And context dude. I saw the press conference and if you know Lahm you know he had a big smile on his face.

Starting fire? Sure if you have the small emotional little brain of a donkey like Heinze. Or maybe remembering about fairness and sportsmanship and being a fair loser. Did you see all the players after england-germany? Really long staying in the middle, talking, hugging etc. Thats how a game should end. Or how a series ends between Mavs and Spurs. No matter who wins, after the last game you see everywhere fair losers and winners.

What the argentinian players did after the loss was one of the most idiotic embarassing behaviour the past years in football. Right after turkey - switzerland. No excuses of the heat of the game or being dissappointed. The argentina players were talking trash to the germans in the midfield after every penalty. After the 4:2 Borowski told them to finally shut up. And Cufre kicking Mertesacker because he thought he was Borowski.

So my question: Why they have to talk trash between the penalties? AND then blacking out if you get an answer to your trash talk...

And of course what happened after it, Blatters payback asshole move to suspend Frings (since we blocked his personal wish of southafrica 2006 etc). Schweinsteiger was Frings replacement and he let Pirlo free for the goal.

Last thing what the argentinian players should so now is bitch about this comments, specially some players like Heinze.

Heinze, the other guy jumping and boxing into the crowd, another one kicking Mertesacker...

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http://www.morgenpost.de/multimedia/archive/00289/cufretritt_DW_Sport_289857b.jpg


The game was full of such crap from your side

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[DAF86]

What? Its still a big thing what happened. And you should be the last guy naming other players "little bitches". And context dude. I saw the press conference and if you know Lahm you know he had a big smile on his face.

Why? I didn't see any Argie player bitching. And I saw Lahm's press conference, he had no smile, he just said it.


Starting fire? Sure if you have the small emotional little brain of a donkey like Heinze. Or maybe remembering about fairness and sportsmanship and being a fair loser. Did you see all the players after england-germany? Really long staying in the middle, talking, hugging etc. Thats how a game should end. Or how a series ends between Mavs and Spurs. No matter who wins, after the last game you see everywhere fair losers and winners.

What the argentinian players did after the loss was one of the most idiotic embarassing behaviour the past years in football. Right after turkey - switzerland. No excuses of the heat of the game or being dissappointed. Do you see such crap after any germany-england game or after italy beat us in the last minute?

And of course what happened after it, Blatters payback asshole move to suspend Frings (since we blocked his personal wish of southafrica 2006 etc).

Last thing what the argentinian players should so now is bitch about this comments, specially some players like Heinze.

Who was the asshole jumping and boxing into the crowd at 1:35?

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The game was full of such crap from your side

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Tell me of another time where Argentina's player had that kind of incident after losing in a WC, it didn't happen in 2002, nor 98, nor 94, not even in 1990 when we lost in the final in the last minutes with an invented penalty, it never happened other than in 2006, something strange must have happened there.

All the Argie players said that the incidents happened 'cause the German players were taunting them (pointing out specially at Frings), including guys that I respect a lot like Cambiasso and Ayala. And seeing now that Frings got suspended and this "uncalled for" comments, I'm starting to think that it may be a little of truth behind it. Look how the Argie players go after a particular group of guys not all of the Germans, if they were angry just for the loss they wouldn't care about looking for a particular guy, they would just hit the first guy that crosses his path.

[DAF86]

And regardless of what happened 4 years ago, there's no reason to do what the German players are doing, these aren't the same Argie and German squads (in Argentina there're just 4 or 5 players from the '06 roster) so I don't see the point of saying things like that, other than trying to mess with the Argentinians' heads.

[sefant77]

All the Argie players said that the incidents happened 'cause the German players were taunting them (pointing out specially at Frings), including guys that I respect a lot like Cambiasso and Ayala. And seeing now that Frings got suspended and this "uncalled for" comments, I'm starting to think that it may be a little of truth behind it. Look how the Argie players go after a particular group of guys not all of the Germans, if they were angry just for the loss they wouldn't care about looking for a particular guy, they would just hit the first guy that crosses his path.
The argentina players were talking trash to the germans in the midfield after every penalty. After the 4:2 Borowski told them to finally shut up. And Cufre kicking Mertesacker because he thought he was Borowski.Like i told. The "taunter" was Borowski and it was a straight result of Argentina talking trash to the germans DURING the penalties in the circle.
Do you think he would have done it without your players starting with trash? Do you ever read about german players talking trash during penalties or iniciating taunting after a win? Even if its against England, Netherlands etc?

So again, it was pretty classless and weak from the players to blame the "taunting" germans after you provocate it with trash talk that doesnt belong there. But of course no camera could catch that :rolleyes

2006 was 99% argentinas fault. 1% german, they should have just ignored that shit.

And yes, Argentina has a history of being classless on the field, sorry. Anf if you dont think that the two red cards 1990 was a sore loser ending of a game then we should stop this discussion. Thats why journalists asked that question to Schweinsteiger and Lahm and thats why they answered with such words.

Not because they try to talk trash before the game, because argentina worked sucessfully over a long time to earn such comments.

Sadly, because they have great players and play great football but they have an emotional and classless side that i always hated and what makes me lose a lot of respect for them.

[ManuLoco]

hahaha, Sefant, you are a moron! In that Riquelme clip you can clearly see that Klose was playing dirty first, waiting for Riquelme's reaction and then looking at the referee :lol

I have to admit that we dont have the best sportsmanship in the world but the germans are pure crap and don't have the right to badmouth any argentinian.

I say Arggentina wins by 3 goals, its either 4-1 or 5-2.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

man, I hope we beat Germany by 3 or 4 goals, just so that this sefant arrogant piece of crap can eat all the shit he's been spewing for the past three weeks. Germany and their fans are starting to become the most obnoxious pieces of crap in the whole tournament.

It used to be that I wanted Brazil to lose above all, but now if bny some chance Brazil and Germany end up meeting in the final, I'll be wearing the Brazil flag. Literally. That's how fucking arrogant and irritating these Germans have become.

[sefant77]

lol talking about class...whats wrong with you people and this complete resistence against criticism etc? Someone of you trying to blame Schweinsteiger and Lahm for trash talking and then someone explains WHY they said that and again you can just bitch....

what piece of crap i was spewing? Really curious...

Arrogant? Hmmm, yesterday i wrote argentina-germany 60:40 :rolleyes


hahaha, Sefant, you are a moron! In that Riquelme clip you can clearly see that Klose was playing dirty first, waiting for Riquelme's reaction and then looking at the referee :lolCome on, you are not that blind. Klose pulled slighty on his shirt so he turn his head because he wanted to tell him somehting. And it wasnt trash, Klose is one of the nicest classy guys the past 10 years in football...but i guess u dont know that...

[DAF86]

Like i told. The "taunter" was Borowski and it was a straight result of Argentina talking trash to the germans DURING the penalties in the circle.
Do you think he would have done it without your players starting with trash? Do you ever read about german players talking trash during penalties or iniciating taunting after a win? Even if its against England, Netherlands etc?

So again, it was pretty classless and weak from the players to blame the "taunting" germans after you provocate it with trash talk that doesnt belong there. But of course no camera could catch that :rolleyes

2006 was 99% argentinas fault. 1% german, they should have just ignored that shit.

And yes, Argentina has a history of being classless on the field, sorry. Anf if you dont think that the two red cards 1990 was a sore loser ending of a game then we should stop this discussion. Thats why journalists asked that question to Schweinsteiger and Lahm and thats why they answered with such words.

Not because they try to talk trash before the game, because argentina worked sucessfully over a long time to earn such comments.

Sadly, because they have great players and play great football but they have an emotional and classless side that i always hated and what makes me lose a lot of respect for them.

Maybe we should stop this discussion since you don't even seem to care to look for facts before making an argument, Monzon was sent off when the game was tied.

And let's assume that what you say about Argie players talking trash is true, (on a side note:"o noes! talking trash in sports game"), talking trash during the game isn't the same as talking trash after the game specially when you won, that's just asking for a brawl. And even with your BS reasoning you accept that the fault is shared, so to bitch about something you helped create (like some German players are doing now) it's just uncalled for and a bitch move. Besides they are doing exactly what they're complaining about: provoke. How do you think the Argentinian players are feeling right now after those comments?

And to end, I don't hate the German NT like you say you do with the Argentinian NT 'cause I don't feel better than anybody and I'm not stupid enough to generalize and make assumptions of a coutry or a team for the acts of a few people.

[ManuLoco]

haha Sefant! Do you read what you write before you post? Klose pulled Riquelme's shirt? Put your glasses on and you'll see he's clearly pinching him waiting for his reaction.

Seeing the things as you do, Sefant, I could say that in the pic you posted the german guy is trying to fuck cufre's foot. Nasty germans!!!

[sefant77]

Maybe we should stop this discussion since you don't even seem to care to look for facts before making an argument, Monzon was sent off when the game was tied.

Maybe because its getting too emotional. So i remembered one timing of a red card wrong, my bad.



And let's assume that what you say about Argie players talking trash is true, (on a side note:"o noes! talking trash in sports game"), talking trash during the game isn't the same as talking trash after the game specially when you won, that's just asking for a brawl. One important difference (from what i read in a lot of sources): the germans ignored the trash talking during the shootout and didnt talk back. It wasnt 2 teams talking trash to each other and the winner keep on talking trash after the win. It was the winner team not reacting during the game and telling the other team after the game to suck it up (the talk). Thats a huge difference. Player A is talking trash all the game to player B, player B is just ignoring it the whole game. he hits the buzzer in As face and tell him to suck up his trashtalk. So its all player Bs fault and A has the right to punch him? Just asking....




And even with your BS reasoning you accept that the fault is shared, so to bitch about something you helped create (like some German players are doing now) it's just uncalled for and a bitch move. Besides they are doing exactly what they're complaining about: provoke. How do you think the Argentinian players are feeling right now after those comments?I explained it up. I dont see any fault shared if the german players said nothing back during the shootout. Then (!)they could tell them to suck it up after the game, i dont see why not. If you talk trash and keep on talking rash even if the other player or team doesnt respond to it...dont blame anyone if you get a bad comment after you lost to him/them...



And to end, I don't hate the German NT like you say you do with the Argentinian NT 'cause I don't feel better than anybody and I'm not stupid enough to generalize and make assumptions of a coutry or a team for the acts of a few people.Dude, i dont hate the Arg NT or argentinian ppl. I said you have great players and NTs, i just dont like one specific side of a lot of argentinian players and thats the dirty side. And thats not just the opinion of an "arrogant german", its an fact all around the football world. Open a poll on the forum of ManU, Liverpool, Barca, Real, Ajax, PSV, Milan, Paris etc and ask there which country has the dirtiest players and you will have mostly 3 teams up there: Uruguay, Argentina, Italy. So if you want to call me arrogant, you should call the rest of the world arrogant too.

Well, lets forget 2006.

Lets try to trashtalk in the funny ironic way until saturday :toast

@Manu: Sry, you are not worthy to answer anymore. Bye.

[DAF86]

Maybe because its getting too emotional. So i remembered one timing of a red card wrong, my bad.

But see, that's the things with generalizations. You tend to make wrong assumptions about things just because of a pre-establized idea you have in your head.


One important difference (from what i read in a lot of sources): the germans ignored the trash talking during the shootout and didnt talk back. It wasnt 2 teams talking trash to each other and the winner keep on talking trash after the win. It was the winner team not reacting during the game and telling the other team after the game to suck it up (the talk). Thats a huge difference. Player A is talking trash all the game to player B, player B is just ignoring it the whole game. he hits the buzzer in As face and tell him to suck up his trashtalk. So its all player Bs fault and A has the right to punch him? Just asking....

You may like it or not, but talking trash during a game it's just part of sports, everybody does it, you can answer back or not, but the good thing about it, it's that when the final whistle blows, everything is forgotten and you shake hands with your oponent 'cause you know that what is said on the pitch stays on the pitch. Talking trash after the game is unacceptable, no matter if you got "trash talked" during the game or not.


I explained it up. I dont see any fault shared if the german players said nothing back during the shootout. Then (!)they could tell them to suck it up after the game, i dont see why not. If you talk trash and keep on talking rash even if the other player or team doesnt respond to it...dont blame anyone if you get a bad comment after you lost to him/them...

I already explained the "trash talking" part.

You said that IYO the Germans were 1% responsible for the brawl, so that's saying the fault is shared. Every time there're incidents like this one, both sides are on fault (and not just with a 1%). Blaming the other side and not accepting any responsability is classless and just wrong. Specially bringing it up after four years and just a couple of days before playing that other side.


Dude, i dont hate the Arg NT or argentinian ppl. I said you have great players and NTs, i just dont like one specific side of a lot of argentinian players and thats the dirty side. And thats not just the opinion of an "arrogant german", its an fact all around the football world. Open a poll on the forum of ManU, Liverpool, Barca, Real, Ajax, PSV, Milan, Paris etc and ask there which country has the dirtiest players and you will have mostly 3 teams up there: Uruguay, Argentina, Italy. So if you want to call me arrogant, you should call the rest of the world arrogant too.

Well, you did use the word "hate", but it doesn't matter, like I said I don't have a problem with German people either, in fact in this forum I criticized Alex Ferguson for generalizing and speaking bad about German people, for doing exactly what Lahm and Schweinsteiger are doing now with Argentina.

And I'm not negating the fact that generalizations exist I'm just saying that they're stupid and unfair.



Well, lets forget 2006.

Lets try to trashtalk in the funny ironic way until saturday :toast

@Manu: Sry, you are not worthy to answer anymore. Bye.

Bealive me, the last thing I want to do is keep remembering things about the 2006 elimination :lol

[sefant77]

Nice tactical preview:

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/07/01/argentina-germany-tactical-preview/

Will be interesting if Maradona gonna change his diamond midfield and add a 2nd CM. I think he is a little bit worried about the speed of Özil/Müller/Poldi.

For germany i think Ballacks injury will become now bigger. Khedira played a nice cup but these are now the games where a Ballack is just better to have because he draws also the attention of the other team.

Im fine if we lose, beating England and reaching the QF was important, now everything is additional sugar with this bloody young team. Im just glad to see this potential, the EC/WCs the next 10 years should be fun.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

@Manu: Sry, you are not worthy to answer anymore. Bye.man, I'm going to have trouble sleeping now... :rolleyes

Give me a fucking break! You sit there calling Argies dirty and we're supposed to what? just shut up and accept it? You make ascertions like they are fact, and so far you've spewed nothing but opinion. You accuse us of being dirty as if the German's are above reproach. You ARE an arrogant prick. We may or may not beat you, but that doesn't change the fact that in this WC its been the Germans who have been classless pieces of shit.

I really hope we beat Germany, but if we don't I'll be rooting for any team that plays against them including Brazil.

How's that for trash talking?

[sefant77]

i meant the other manu(loco), sorry plenty of manus here.


Give me a fucking break! You sit there calling Argies dirty and we're supposed to what? just shut up and accept it? You make ascertions like they are fact, and so far you've spewed nothing but opinion. You accuse us of being dirty as if the German's are above reproach. You ARE an arrogant prick.Sry, its not just my personal opinion or hate, unfortunately thats what most of soccer fans worldwide think about argentina. Great players, but too often dirty. Like i said, just go on a soccer board in england, spain, italy, france and do the poll and wait the answer.

Shouldnt you better think WHY is that instead of just calling me an arrogant prick? Thats a little bit easy. So why the argentinian football has this "dirty" trademark in his reputation? Specially in europe? And again: thats not me as a hater or anything, that reputation is a fact. So explain me please, too many pricks in europe? Millions?

Well, lets just forget that topic, ok? It wont lead to anything.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Sry, its not just my personal opinion or hate, unfortunately thats what most of soccer fans worldwide think about argentina. Great players, but too often dirty. Like i said, just go on a soccer board in england, spain, italy, france and do the poll and wait the answer.

Shouldnt you better think WHY is that instead of just calling me an arrogant prick? Thats a little bit easy.

It is your opinion. I've been in several football forums, from English to Spanish and somehow I've yet to see a poll that states what you are claiming as fact. No, sorry, its YOUR opinion.

Look, I'll be the first to tell you I was pretty damn embarrased to see what happened in 2006. I admit the actions of our players were stupid and hotheaded, but don't come here spewing holier than thou bullshit as if the Germans are somehow the epitome of fair play. Its not like the Germans never commited a hard foul or flopped like a fish out of water to get a call they didn't deserve (Klinsmann).

and now with this bullshit from the German players. Unprovoked bullshit I might add, that serves no purpose other than to influence the ref which is completely ironic since it is exactly what they accusing the Argies of doing.

No offense, but so far this time, the lack of class is all German.

[DAF86]

Maradona won't bench any of the three attackers so the diamond stays, I think Argentina's formation adapts well to Germany's one.

The two center backs get Klose, the side backs get Podolski and Muller, Mascherano with Ozil, and either Di maria or Rodriguez (or whoever plays in the side of the midfield) gets Lahm. I would also put Tevez or Messi on Lahm's side so he can't attack as much as he usually does, and if he does we take advantage of the spaces on the counter.

The change I would like to see is Maradona benching Demichellis but he already said that won't happen, and I think Veron should play on this game, like I said above Germany's wingers can be marked by the defensive side-backs so Veron doesn't need to stay on the wing to mark players he can stay close to Mascherano to defend either Bastian S. or Kedhira and when we have the ball his ball control and passing would be huge for us, he will also allow Messi to play more as a finisher than a playmaker. And last but not least his experience and football presence would be a plus against a very young and unexperienced German team.

The team I would like to see:


Romero

Otamendi Burdisso Samuel Heinze

Veron Mascherano Di maria

Messi

Higuain Tevez

[MaNuMaNiAc]

As much as I want the German's to lose, I'm finding it hard to believe our defense is going to shape up enough to stop the German offense. The way they dismantled England was outstanding, and I know England wasn't exactly the best team out there, but they played decently and our D isn't much better than theirs in all truthfulness.

No, this is going to be the hardest match we've played so far and I have my doubts we'll come out on top. I've grown to despise their arrogant bullshit, but as a team, Germany is pretty much on top in this WC.

[Spurologist]

As much as I want the German's to lose, I'm finding it hard to believe our defense is going to shape up enough to stop the German offense. The way they dismantled England was outstanding, and I know England wasn't exactly the best team out there, but they played decently and our D isn't much better than theirs in all truthfulness.

No, this is going to be the hardest match we've played so far and I have my doubts we'll come out on top. I've grown to despise their arrogant bullshit, but as a team, Germany is pretty much on top in this WC.

for some reason, your posts have got my even more amped up to watch this match as if I wasn't already excited.

Messi will have to find his scoring touch and that Argie D is gonna have to step up.

I picked Argentina to win it all but I really want Argentina to win because Maradona will be giving the greatest presser in the history of world football afterwards.

[DAF86]

An interesting piece on the tactical matchup and Schweinsteiger's hypocresy by SI.COM's Jonathan Wilson.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/world-cup-2010/writers/jonathan_wilson/07/01/germany.argentina/index.html

[ffadicted]

Fight fight fight :jack

[ALVAREZ6]

If Argentina plays like they did against Mexico, they have no shot.

[boston.balla]

sons each team has a shot. I think will be a balanced game. The germans are too organized and hustle alot while the argies too talented and creative.

Whoever goes will probably fall to spain, because both teams cannot control midfield as spain does, and both their defenses are not great when pressured by technical sides (germans deal well with physicality but great controllers of the ball give them headaches). My 2 cents.

Sincerely, let the best team win, i'd either argentina or germany to go to the finals than spain.

[Streakyshooter08]

Germany and their fans are starting to become the most obnoxious pieces of crap in the whole tournament.

That's how fucking arrogant and irritating these Germans have become.

I really don't understand how you can speak of "these Germans" in general. I talked to A LOT of fans over here and everybody has a great amount of respect for Argentina. Same thing goes for the majority of the german players. Most of them say that Argentina is a great team and hard to beat.

I really don't understand why some quotes (which are taken out of context) and maybe 1-2 opinions you read on the internet can make you "hate" somebody.

I am also sure that ALL players form Argentina also think that they will win as well. That is the mindest you need to have and nothing wrong with that.

[rascal]

Like i told. The "taunter" was Borowski and it was a straight result of Argentina talking trash to the germans DURING the penalties in the circle.
Do you think he would have done it without your players starting with trash? Do you ever read about german players talking trash during penalties or iniciating taunting after a win? Even if its against England, Netherlands etc?

So again, it was pretty classless and weak from the players to blame the "taunting" germans after you provocate it with trash talk that doesnt belong there. But of course no camera could catch that :rolleyes

2006 was 99% argentinas fault. 1% german, they should have just ignored that shit.

And yes, Argentina has a history of being classless on the field, sorry. Anf if you dont think that the two red cards 1990 was a sore loser ending of a game then we should stop this discussion. Thats why journalists asked that question to Schweinsteiger and Lahm and thats why they answered with such words.

Not because they try to talk trash before the game, because argentina worked sucessfully over a long time to earn such comments.

Sadly, because they have great players and play great football but they have an emotional and classless side that i always hated and what makes me lose a lot of respect for them.

How about Brazil? More class than Argentina and a better team. Argentina has a bit of jealousy of their rival Brazil in futbol.

[sefant77]

Well, for me Brasil is always the team to beat.

Their player and talent pool every single year is ridiculous. Dani Alves on the bench? In the past they often beat themselves but now with Dunga they are really scaring. I know everybody in Brasil hates him because of the style and for kicking out old washed up veterans but right now they remember me of Inter. Playing incredible controlled defense and then kill you with a few great individual moments.

My ranking for the rest of the tournament:
Brasil
Argentina
Germany and Spain
Netherlands

Spain had a weird worldcup. Pretty lucky several times (no red card Villa, offside goal etc) and they still have to proof that became a better tournament team.

I take Germany over the Netherlands because of the mental advantage.

[boston.balla]

Well, for me Brasil is always the team to beat.

Their player and talent pool every single year is ridiculous. Dani Alves on the bench? In the past they often beat themselves but now with Dunga they are really scaring. I know everybody in Brasil hates him because of the style and for kicking out old washed up veterans but right now they remember me of Inter. Playing incredible controlled defense and then kill you with a few great individual moments.

My ranking for the rest of the tournament:
Brasil
Argentina
Germany and Spain
Netherlands

Spain had a weird worldcup. Pretty lucky several times (no red card Villa, offside goal etc) and they still have to proof that became a better tournament team.

I take Germany over the Netherlands because of the mental advantage.

i think we have better builders in midfield than inter, and as we go out on offense the brasilian style of passing in midfield can't be confused. :)

[Muser]

Holy shit the match hasn't started and it's already 8 pages long.

[ElNono]

i think we have better builders in midfield than inter, and as we go out on offense the brasilian style of passing in midfield can't be confused. :)

lmao :rollin

[lefty]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2010/0702/soc_g_dmardona_576.jpg

[ElNono]

So, who else is starting to think that now that Brazil is gone, Argentina is going to relax and drop this game?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

So, who else is starting to think that now that Brazil is gone, Argentina is going to relax and drop this game?

Yeah like having to beat Germany then most likely Spain and then Holland wasn't enough to motivate them :lol

[DAF86]

So, who else is starting to think that now that Brazil is gone, Argentina is going to relax and drop this game?

Thinking just that, the same thing happened in '06, Argentina got eliminated and everybody in Brazil was celebrating and saying that they will win it all and then they lost to France, let's hope that doesn't happen to us now. tbh, there's no need to feel relaxed or confident, Germany and Argentina are at the same level, in fact Germany has a better team cohesion, we depend a lot on how our stars wake up that day, that's never a good thing 'cause it can backfire at any point.

[ElNono]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2010/0702/soc_g_dmardona_576.jpg

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/alemania/Joachim-Low-mocos-preocupado-Messi_OLEIMA20100702_0018_3.jpg

[ElNono]

Damn, I can't sleep :wakeup

[ElNono]

http://www.ole.com.ar/mundial/argentina/Ultima-gloria-escala-Ciudad-Cabo_OLEIMA20100702_0112_13.jpg

[ElNono]

For the argentinians/uruguayans out there:

97U3S57-a9k

:rollin

[Dinamita]

Man of the Match

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/24/article-0-0A2C5E5B000005DC-666_468x548.jpg

:wakeup

[NRHector]

For the argentinians/uruguayans out there:

97U3S57-a9k

:rollin :lol muy bueno"estamos al horno con papas"

[Bukefal]

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8214/albumlarge165474.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd39/raineryong/blogger/german_girl_04.jpg

[Bukefal]

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3779/albumlarge154091.jpghttp://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9421/280256.jpg

[Bukefal]

:clap

[sefant77]

Is there a hot argentina girl without plastic boobs? ;)

[Bukefal]

Is there a hot argentina girl without plastic boobs? ;)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6730/16agu.jpg

:)

[xellos88330]

I think I am going to have to go with Germany for this one.

I don't really care who wins though. I just hope it is an entertaining game.

Best of luck to both teams!

[Muser]

Can't wait for kickoff, gonna be good.

[Bukefal]

Should be a great game, can't wait either. Hopefully we see a very nice game.

:toast

[ElNono]

Argentina lineup:

Romero
Heinze - Burdisso - Demichelis - Otamendi
Maxi - Mascherano - Di Maria
Messi - Tevez - Higuain

same lineup that played against Mexico...

[Muser]

lmao brazil

[SAtown]

Hopefully these princesses don't act like they did post match 4 years ago when they were knocked out by Germany.

[sefant77]

http://www.freesoft-board.to/albenanhangmini/0/9ce99dc8483066abae0298a0b160eab1_159.jpg

[ElNono]

Hopefully these princesses don't act like they did post match 4 years ago when they were knocked out by Germany.

http://www.playcloths.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/haters-gonna-hate-32402-1270523864-286.jpg

[Bukefal]

:wow so early

[Bukefal]

Das ist doch schnell!!

[velik_m]

lol argentinian defense

[ElNono]

We have a test now... Can we come back?

[Spurologist]

Damn Deutschland is running riot

[Muser]

Damn that was shitty defending.

[Muser]

Looks like it's Messi vs Germany.

[MannyIsGod]

Argentina going for their best US impression?

[Spurologist]

should be 2-0 there

[Muser]

lol klose.

[Spurologist]

why is Leonardo Dicaprio wearing a WVU hat?

[resistanze]

lol Messi handled first.

[Spurologist]

fucking ref.......the Di Maria player did the same shit and he didn't card him

[resistanze]

lol Higuain, 4 offside. Cmon.

[Muser]

Lmao and Tevez still passed it :lmao

[MannyIsGod]

LOL I was wondering why the fuck he would ever pass it there and then after the replay it didn't even matter because he was already OS

[Muser]

Why are Germany blasting every shot into the stands.

[Spurologist]

:lmao

Heinze

[ffadicted]

lmao 3 minute defense

[velik_m]

Damn the Argies are nervous out there, overall i think the ref did a good job in the first half.

So... how long before we see the argentinians starting to fall in the penalty box? Or will they receive the intervention from god, er.. i mean messi.

[ElNono]

Germany > Argentina so far. We need a turnaround like the Dutch in the second half or we're heading home. BTW, fucking Heidis can't ever complain again about diving.

[ffadicted]

lmao MEssi

[ElNono]

lmao MEssi

lol vicariously living off other teams these days

[Muser]

Messi can do everything but he can't score to save his life in this WC.

[DAF86]

After the first 15 minutes I thought we were gonna lose by 10, luckily the team improved after that, too bad we couldn't weather the storm early in the game. Argentina is playing way too long (that means with a lot of distance between the defenders and attackers), that allows Germany to play way to comfortable on the middle, we need to fix that. And get Veron and Pastore in there for Di Maria and Maxi Rodriguez right now. Messi the only one showing something good for us so far.

[symple19]

Argentines need to attack the wings more.

Germany has definitely looked better overall.

Can't believe Klose missed that shot from in front of goal

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Germany > Argentina so far. We need a turnaround like the Dutch in the second half or we're heading home. BTW, fucking Heidis can't ever complain again about diving.

Germany >>> Argentina so far. The only reason we aren't 3-0 right now is because they can't finish for shit, but their attacks have been clear, organized and they have picked our defense appart. We on the other hand are hoping either DiMaria, Tevez or Messi manage to beat Germany on their own practically. Granted their defense isn't that pretty either, but we're expending enormous ammounts of energy trying to get a shot in while they get to ours in 4 or 5 passes. Its ridiculous.