Shaq to the spurs??

[SpursTillTheEnd]

eric b who are we targeting ho i say you dont know and just making shit up, bonner>shaq right now, only reason i would shaq is cuz the spurs would finally not go to commercial when we draft

[Blackjack]

only reason i would shaq is cuz the spurs would finally not go to commercial when we draft

:lol

[xmas1997]

Shaq will only take the MLE so if he comes that means no Splitter. I don't like that at all.

[DesignatedT]

Shaq will only take the MLE so if he comes that means no Splitter. I don't like that at all.

has he said this? link?

[xmas1997]

has he said this? link?

What? You can't read or what? The link is at the beginning of this entire thread.

[xtremesteven33]

Im for the "Shaquisition".

Blair,Bonner and Mcdyess and maybe even Splitter provide enough flexibility to manage a 48 minute game. He wont cause any distractions for sure. If anything he would provide locker room cheer and leadership.

Shaq is a cool dude by the way. Its not like hes a headcase like Artest or a diva like Lebron. Hes got a ego but he hasnt let it get in the way of his team winning, from what I have seen.

[Budkin]

He'll prolly end up in Miami too for one last chance at a ring.

[johnnySpurs]

For the life of me I just can't fathom why people on this board are so afraid of having a deeper basketball team just because it might reduce the number of minutes their favorite young guys get to play. Is the point to have the best basketball team possible? Or is the point just to play young guys as many minutes as possible? No one should be afraid of challenging guys like Splitter and Blair to become better basketball players by making them compete for playing time against better teammates. That's a far better scenario than forcing yourself into giving them a bunch of playing time simply because there's no one better on the roster.

Besides, making Splitter compete against Shaq both in practice and for game minutes would be about the best development tool for him that there is.

More than anything, I think its that we've seen the scenario for many many many years where we bring in an aging superstar for a year or two to patch a few holes around the nucleus of Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobilli and Bruce Bowen in order to keep the ship from sinking. I think you basically have two camps of people. One group who says we should try to win a few more before whats remaining of that group retires at which point we'll go into rebuilding mode. We'll call this the anti-Mahinmi group While the other group feels that we should be taking this opportunity to supplement these players by up and coming talent in hopes that we don't have to fall to a sub 500 team when 'the big 3' begin to break up.... which appears to be maybe just a season away. This group will be the pro-Mahinmi group.

Make no mistake, I do not oppose Shaq coming over. I'm not even sure that I oppose him coming over. I think a starting lineup of talent like Duncan and Shaq with Blair, Splitter and Dice off the bench would be pretty tough for most teams to match up against. Like most, if not all, Spurs fans I am very anxious to see what Splitter will bring to the Spurs. I'm more optimistic about him long term than I would be for Shaq.

[cantthinkofanything]

The more I look at the potential landscape of the NBA, the more I start to think about just enjoying the games the Spurs have left and not wringing my hands about them winning another championship -- it's what I want for them more than anything but it's looking to be pretty much out of their control.

I'm 50-50 on this farewell tour.

On one hand, could a Spurs fan honestly feel good about what very well could be Tim's last year being overshadowed by a Shaqapalooza? After all of the years he's overshadowed him through the media and all of the wars Shaq's been on the opposition?

On the other hand, Tim would love that first scenario. He'd love to be able to get out without so much as anyone noticing or acknowledging the end to his career.

But on the other hand -- the third one that a particular gentleman wish he'd had in Total Recall -- Having a farewell tour for Shaq would probably drag Tim into the spotlight kicking and screaming and it would become a spectacle in itself with the league sending out the Wilt and Russell of this generation. There'd be interviews, shows, national media all over the place and an increased presence in San Antonio. The Spurs and its all-time great would be provided with a platform they've never really been afforded. Shaq could bring that.

So I still hold firm to the idea that this wouldn't work on the court to a tune of a championship and could even turn out ugly at times, but faced with the reality of the league and the Spurs' probable place in it ... I'm warming to the big fella' (for the LLE or minimum).

This.
And he's still as big, strong, and black as he was when I posted a couple of hours ago.

[Interrohater]

But on the other hand -- the third one that a particular gentleman wish he'd had in Total Recall -- Having a farewell tour
That was as obscure as it was awesome. That was obscure and awesome.

[Blackjack]

That was as obscure as it was awesome. That was obscure and awesome.

http://cdn.complex.com/assets/images/Entertainment/Features/042008/total-recall-alien-420x505.jpg

[Supergirl]

Shaq for vet min, yes. No brainer. Shaq for midlevel? HELL NO. Besides, isn't that money going to Tiago?

[tdominate21]

The dude put up 12pts/7rbs/1bs in 23mpg and still keeps opponents out of the paint. Spurs are crazy if they don't offer the LLE.



duncan and shaq together in their 'drive for 5'? Im in.
Shaq in black sounds good. :)

Shaq in Black... nice ring to it :tu

[bigfan]

Somehow I dont see Coach Pop tolerating any Shaq "farewell tour".

[timtonymanurich]

I'm sure the Spurs getting older and slower is not the goal of the Spurs FO right now, given how they were decimated by a team that outjumped, outran and stretched them.

I don't think Shaq is a good fit for this squad, no matter what the price.

PHX without Amare is a .500 team at best. Memphis will overtake PHX for the 8th spot and Spurs @ the #2 seed will not need to worry about PHX for years to come.

[DesignatedT]

Somehow I dont see Coach Pop tolerating any Shaq "farewell tour".

:lol true.

[JustinJDW]

I'll say one thing, a 3-Big Playoff Rotation with Duncan and Splitter starting and Shaq coming off the Bench would be pretty nice.

[JustinJDW]

As long as Splitter comes too.. then hell yeah!This.

Besides, it would be kind of cool for Timmy and Shaq to retire at the same time and on the same team. The two Co-Players of the Decade and best Big Man in like the last twenty years. Retiring together, and then handing the torch down to Tiago Splitter.

I kinda like the sound of that. :king

[tmtcsc]

Yeah, Shaq is 3rd on the list of our needs. If he fits salary wise, we'd have to consider bringing him in. Allows this team to have different looks.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

Hack a Shaq will finally be turned against us.

... and as an English teacher, I'd have a vivid new example of irony to use with my 8th graders. :lol

[Blackjack]

Don Harris claims he gave Shaq the idea. (http://www.woai.com/content/sports/spurs/story/Shaq-interested-in-joining-Spurs-before-retiring/agBaQ5Aza0mPsFS0XNePWg.cspx)

And he kinda did :lol

And he's gonna make sure everyone knows about it. :lol


DonHarris4WOAI

Shaq wants to come to the Spurs? Wonder where he got that idea?http://tinyurl.com/2924ep4
9 minutes ago via web

[DesignatedT]

hahaha thats great.

[silk]

Shaq tells MLE in order to negotiate, but he could be open for less.

We could very well end up with Matthews for the MLE and Shaq for the LLE. I mean, the guy is 38 and has banked in a lot. If not LLE, there should be a way to financially please him

[Darkwaters]

Shaq tells MLE in order to negotiate, but he could be open for less.

We could very well end up with Matthews for the MLE and Shaq for the LLE. I mean, the guy is 38 and has banked in a lot. If not LLE, there should be a way to financially please him


And what about Splitter?

[CosmicCowboy]

After this week I see Shaq to Miami for the vet minimum. He already lives there and has won one ring there. He might be looking at legacy and picking up 2 more rings before he retires.

[xmas1997]

Yeah, I think Shaq will go to Miami too.

[coyotes_geek]

Agreed. If the heat want shaq, they'll get shaq.

[Sobe_Kucks]

Agreed. If the heat want shaq, they'll get shaq.

They can have him! We don't need that kind of circus around here.

[Spurs Brazil]

GeryWoelfel
Shaq to Spurs rumor heating up. Would fit in nicely with their system.
http://twitter.com/gerywoelfel

[Spurs Brazil]

Maybe with LeBron in Miami, Shaq decides to take the LLE and help the Spurs get stronger :downspin:

[Muser]

For the LLE it is a good move.

[Spurs Brazil]

For the LLE it is a good move.

If Shaq agree the LLE, Spurs would need to trade Dice. I don't know if it would be easy.

[rayray2k8]

What? Why would the spurs want 6 Bigs??

[Muser]

Really? Well i'd rather keep Dice then.

[Spurs Brazil]

Really? Well i'd rather keep Dice then.

I think so. We'd have Tiago, TD, Shaq, Blair, Dice and Bonner (:()

I don't think Dice would be a 6th big man or Bonner with his new 4 year deal (:depressed)

[rayray2k8]

I think so. We'd have Tiago, TD, Shaq, Blair, Dice and Bonner (:()

I don't think Dice would be a 6th big man or Bonner with his new 4 year deal (:depressed)

OH my god.. Don't remind me....

[bobby4germany]

If it is true that the spurs are trying to get Shaq I just hope it doesn't come at Blair's expense.

[tuncaboylu]

What? Why would the spurs want 6 Bigs??

Because half of them are over 34 and they should rest during regular season.

[BobEX]

Would love to have Shaq on the Spurs. Getting another 7' guy in the rotation would mean less small ball and less wear-and-tear on Tim. Splitter 25mpg, Tim 25mpg, Shaq 15 mpg then split the rest amont Bonner/Dice/Blair. It would also would give the Spurs the option of trading one of those players for another SF.

[Darkwaters]

I would have loved to get Shaq, but now I'm not sure how he fits. As a 5th big he'd be perfect on an LLE contract. But with Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, Blair and Bonner already signed up I'm not sure where you put him.

If we traded McDyess for a savvy SF pickup I'd be more inclined. But I'd have to like the SF a lot to pass on McDyess first off.

All said, signing Shaq would need to be part of an elaborate set of moves otherwise it makes little sense.

[Spurs Brazil]

Shaq to Spurs: Don't count on it
July, 10, 2010 Jul 101:54PM ETEmail Print Comments2 By Marc Stein
Archive There is no debate about who ranks as the most provocative free-name still available on the open market: Shaquille O'Neal.

The notion that Shaq is going to wind up in San Antonio, though, continues to be overstated.

It would obviously be fascinating theatre to see Shaq backing up Tim Duncan, playing for Gregg Popovich and returning to the city where he dominated high school ball after all those years at the forefront of a rivalry that has often prompted Pop to liken the Lakers to the Soviet Union.

However ...

This isn't merely a long shot because the Spurs aren't exactly known for chemistry experiments. The reality is that San Antonio has devoted all its energies (and available free-agent cash) to finally bringing Tiago Splitter over from Europe and re-signing Matt Bonner.

And it's safe to say that Shaq isn't looking to sign anywhere on a low-dollar leftovers with a team short of minutes, too.

He's still getting interest from the Atlanta Hawks -- where he would likely be a ticket-seller in addition to a Dwight Howard foil -- and would naturally love to finally land in Dallas after maintaining a longtime friendship with Mavs owner Mark Cuban.

But the prospect of Shaq winding up in black and silver, tantalizing as that sounds as a sidebar to everything happening in Miami, realistically can't happen.

P.S.: I'm not buying Shaq as a Heat target, either. Not a likely chemistry experiment on Pat Riley's radar.

http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_/id/17963/shaq-to-spurs-dont-count-on-it

[EricB]

Yeah if they were to sign shaq it would mean they'd be trying to package Blair into trying to get a sf or other wing.

[Tp9gospursgo]

http://www.ksat.com/sports/24182905/detail.html

Shaq To Spurs?
Website Report: Shaquille O'Neal Says San Antonio Is First Choice In Free Agency
POSTED: Thursday, July 8, 2010
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CDT July 8, 2010
SAN ANTONIO -- Shaquille O'Neal could end his basketball career where it all began, in San Antonio.

Fanhouse.com reported Wednesday the 15-time NBA All-Star is being courted by many teams during the free agency period, but O'Neal said he wants to make a run at his fifth NBA championship with Tim Duncan in San Antonio.
O'Neal, 38, wants to play for at least two more seasons. The Atlanta Hawks are also at the top of his list.

Fanhouse.com reported Spurs general manager R.C. Buford declined comment, but a source who spoke to O'Neal said there is considerable interest on the Spurs' end.

The source also told Fanhouse.com O'Neal would play for the Spurs for the mid-level exception, which pays about $5.8 million, but said his preference if he joined the Hawks would be to get more money.
O'Neal starred for Cole High School in San Antonio, leading the Cougars to a state championship.

He then went on to play college ball at LSU, before winning three NBA titles with the Los Angeles Lakers in the early 2000s and another title with the Miami Heat in 2004.

O'Neal has also played for Phoenix and Cleveland.
"I would cheer for Shaq. Shaq's awesome. He's a great legend." said Spurs fan Jess Almanza.

Some fans are not so quick to accept the idea
.
"He has had so many negative opinions about the Spurs," said Leonard Lopez.
David Robinson, specifically, has been singled out by Shaq. During more than one interview, Shaq said he was San Antonio's original big man. He even called out Robinson in his 2001 book, calling David a "punk (expletive)" for winning a championship before Shaq.

His coach at Cole High School, where Shaq won a state title in 1989, Herb More, said he thinks Shaq would be good for the Spurs.
"I think it would be a good fit (because) Shaquille's always liked San Antonio," he said.

After getting a taste of championships four times, some Spurs fans will take all they help they can get to get that fifth ring.

"Whatever he (said), that's in the past," said Adrian Comacho. "Just bring your A game to San Antonio and lets win another championship."

[rayray2k8]

You couldn't have put this shit on the other shaq forums, or was that too difficult for you to do?

[rayray2k8]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158508

[admiralsnackbar]

If you're posting news that's 4 days old, can't you at least have the courtesy to see if somebody has beaten you to the punch? With the number of obsessives on ST, the odds are high they have.

[Tp9gospursgo]

I was honestly just trying to be helpful....didn't see anyone post this. No need to troll...I mean is it really necessary? All you could have done is not reply.

[rayray2k8]

lol search

[rayray2k8]

Here..
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158072

[Tp9gospursgo]

I apologize. Once again no need to be a douche about it.

[rayray2k8]

Here again..
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158180

[rayray2k8]

fucking here again..
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158447

[Tp9gospursgo]

STFU plz

[Fpoonsie]

The fact that the top 5 fucking threads on ST are 5 fucking threads contemplating "Shaq to the Spurs" makes me want to slaughter a newborn....

[rayray2k8]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158508


Search works fine for me!!

[Tp9gospursgo]

Dude, I'm sorry i have a life and don't stay on Spurstalk all fucking day. My apologies

[rayray2k8]

Shaq attack!
Now merge all the fucking shaq threads!

[O.J Mayo]

Shaq is still a serviceable big man who can clog the paint and finish easy shots. What do you Spurs fans think? I see no Shaq threads around here so I just had to post one.

[rayray2k8]

Dude, I'm sorry i have a life and don't stay on Spurstalk all fucking day. My apologies

Took me less than a minute to find these threads. Omfg! thats soo much time invested! :rolleyes

[tuncaboylu]

Hahaha.

You're great Mayo.

[Isai659]

Shaq attack!
Now merge all the fucking shaq threads!

Wow this dude is hating...haha
:lol

[angelbelow]

Would be pretty fucking awesome to have him here. Hopefully the numbers for RJ, Splitter and Bonner come out soon so we can see if LLE for Shaq puts us over the luxury.

[Gagnrath]

Stupid and blind, First there are 2 other Shaq threads on page 1. Second Shaq is no longer serviceable. He's a distraction that has the skills and playing time of the 4th or 5th big on the roster at this point, and wants at least the mid level exception to do it. Its just not worth it.

[rayray2k8]

:lol

[rayray2k8]

this HAS to be a joke

[Tp9gospursgo]

Took me less than a minute to find these threads. Omfg! thats soo much time invested! :rolleyes

Seriously dude, why do you have to troll? What the fuck did I do to you?

[Isai659]

Seriously dude, why do you have to troll? What the fuck did I do to you?

Dude dont worry about him he has no life hes always on here :wakeup

[Tp9gospursgo]

Dude dont worry about him he has no life hes always on here :wakeup

Thanks bro :toast for not trolling me. :flag:

[tuncaboylu]

this HAS to be a joke


This is obviously a joke, but some guys are still taking it serious. :lol

[rayray2k8]

Would be pretty fucking awesome to have him here. Hopefully the numbers for RJ, Splitter and Bonner come out soon so we can see if LLE for Shaq puts us over the luxury.

I think it's more important to get another wing before investing in the shaqtus.

[angelbelow]

I think it's more important to get another wing before investing in the shaqtus.

Well we probably should fill out another big anyways.. im hoping Gee will pan out.. the sf market is either too expensive or not worth the lle anyways

[Nego]

im hoping Gee will pan out..

:lol Hee.Hee. Sorry man, dont know why..just found that funny.

Peace.

[rayray2k8]

Dude dont worry about him he has no life hes always on here :wakeup

Awww. The noob is looking for a friend, how sweet. And it's funny the noob is telling ME that I have no life when he's on at 3 in the morning as well. :lol
But a tip from me to you. Just agree with EricB on any topic and I'm sure your lips will attach to his ass quickly.

:toast

[JP le Requin]

Shaq to Spurs: Don't count on it
July, 10, 2010
JUL 10
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By Marc Stein
Archive
There is no debate about who ranks as the most provocative free-name still available on the open market: Shaquille O'Neal.

The notion that Shaq is going to wind up in San Antonio, though, continues to be overstated.

It would obviously be fascinating theatre to see Shaq backing up Tim Duncan, playing for Gregg Popovich and returning to the city where he dominated high school ball after all those years at the forefront of a rivalry that has often prompted Pop to liken the Lakers to the Soviet Union.

However ...

This isn't merely a long shot because the Spurs aren't exactly known for chemistry experiments. The reality is that San Antonio has devoted all its energies (and available free-agent cash) to finally bringing Tiago Splitter over from Europe and re-signing Matt Bonner.

And it's safe to say that Shaq isn't looking to sign anywhere on a low-dollar leftovers with a team short of minutes, too.

He's still getting interest from the Atlanta Hawks -- where he would likely be a ticket-seller in addition to a Dwight Howard foil -- and would naturally love to finally land in Dallas after maintaining a longtime friendship with Mavs owner Mark Cuban.

But the prospect of Shaq winding up in black and silver, tantalizing as that sounds as a sidebar to everything happening in Miami, realistically can't happen.

P.S.: I'm not buying Shaq as a Heat target, either. Not a likely chemistry experiment on Pat Riley's radar.



http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17963/shaq-to-spurs-dont-count-on-it

[Juanobili]

Now that we have an idea (not sure if it's confirmed) on what Splitter will be making... does that leave room to make Shaq an offer?

[slick'81]

im sure it would but no need for him now imo we need a real sf or bell if he would consider

[ducks]

the vet min would be enough I would think

[Drachen]

No Shaq, what is wrong with people.

[Juanobili]

Yeah, I'd definitely prefer that. Just gotta wonder if Shaq was listening to Ticket 760 along with us to see how much Splitter was set to make :P

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

We have five big men. We have one small forward. Do the math.

[SenorSpur]

Not again - not another thread promoting the Big Cactus.

[Juanobili]

not promoting it, but wondering what the numbers are

[TDMVPDPOY]

go out and pry matt barnes damn it

[coyotes_geek]

We have five big men. We have one small forward. Do the math.

Absolutely. The mle remainder is the best tool the Spurs have left. It has to be used on a SF.

If shaq wants to come here for league minimum, I'm fine with it. But no way should they give him the MLE remainder.

[DesignatedT]

no

[etbluffer]

What I don't understand from you people is that from February through May all you did on here was complain about the Spurs needing a legitimate big man next to Tim Duncan.
So now, the Spurs have signed Splitter... NICE. But it's still not enough. They are fine at the SF position, mainly due to some flexibility (moving Manu to the 3 occasionally), but they still need a true veteran center.
If Shaq would be willing to take an amount the Spurs offer, I would be thrilled. Not only does this give them what they need at the position, but it also gives the Spurs a swagger; something they've been missing since Robert Horry retired.

SO I SAY: SIGN SHAQ SIGN!

[mike20spurs]

It would be nice having a legit center tutor and mentor Splitter for the next two years. We would also have a stacked front line...

4: Duncan Blair Bonner

5: Mcdyess Shaq Bonner

assuming Jefferson signs Blair could step in at SF and the Spurs could try playing BIG. Still I think i'd prefer getting Mcgrady

[ducks]

if rj goes done spurs are screwed

[ElNono]

http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/pierce/DearGodPlsMakeItStop.jpg

[lefty]

lol at you


Shaq is not coming

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

What I don't understand from you people is that from February through May all you did on here was complain about the Spurs needing a legitimate big man next to Tim Duncan.
So now, the Spurs have signed Splitter... NICE. But it's still not enough. They are fine at the SF position, mainly due to some flexibility (moving Manu to the 3 occasionally), but they still need a true veteran center.
If Shaq would be willing to take an amount the Spurs offer, I would be thrilled. Not only does this give them what they need at the position, but it also gives the Spurs a swagger; something they've been missing since Robert Horry retired.

SO I SAY: SIGN SHAQ SIGN!

You're an idiot.

The Spurs have a big man rotation set. It's Tim, Splitter, Dice, Blair, and Bonner. There isn't any minutes for anyone else.

At the SF, we have Jefferson, and you want to back him up with Manu? :lol Go look at how Manu matches up with the premier SFs in the league. And get a freakin' clue.

Shaq gives us nothing at the position. if you watched him play at Cleveland last year, you would know this. He's nothing more than a ball hogging fat ass. The Cavs had to wait on offense for him to get his ass up the court if they couldn't score on a fast break.

How anyone can look at our depth chart, or even say "yeah we're okay at SF with Jefferson and Manu", and then turn around and argue that we need a sixth big is beyond me.

Hell, if you think we need more big man depth, we drafted a big in the second round this year. And he'll come cheaper, with a lot more energy, and a lot less drama.

Oh, and in case you forgot, RJ is not under contract at the moment. So we don't have any depth, we don't even have a starter there! (HINT: Manu, at 6'6", ain't a starting SF in this league!).



Hey, I hear Antoine Carr is available too! He's got a mean streak and would be the perfect sixth big!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

not promoting it, but wondering what the numbers are


We have five big men. We have one small forward. Do the math.

That is the only two numbers that matter.

[Cane]

Can you imagine having Shaq and Bonner as the frontcourt :wow :downspin:

[SenorSpur]

It would be nice having a legit center tutor and mentor Splitter for the next two years. We would also have a stacked front line...

4: Duncan Blair Bonner

5: Mcdyess Shaq Bonner

assuming Jefferson signs Blair could step in at SF and the Spurs could try playing BIG. Still I think i'd prefer getting Mcgrady

You guys are really, really misguided about Shaq. Since when has he ever been a selfless enough of a teammate that he mentored anyone. Pay attention to how and why he's moved around so much the past 3 seasons - because he's a selfish jerk, that eventually grates on teammates, coaches and the organization.

Besides, the Spurs desparately need a SF. Let's all move on.

[jag]

SO I SAY: SIGN SHAQ SIGN!

:lol

[BobEX]

If the Spurs can get Shaq they should do it. Spurs need to do whatever they can to limit Duncan's minutes and keep him fresh for the playoffs.

[spursfaninla]

If the Spurs can get Shaq they should do it. Spurs need to do whatever they can to limit Duncan's minutes and keep him fresh for the playoffs.

Did you not read the above people explaining how we have 1)duncan 2)splitter 3)dice 4)blair 5)bonner to play the pf/c position?

We have plenty of bigmen. No one keeps 6 bigmen in their actual rotation. We just paid bonner real rotation bigman money. Unless Dice retires, there is no room for shaq.

Plus, he would only be useful if he actually played D, which he no longer does.

we have NO SF currently. AT ALL.

people, THINK.

[etbluffer]

You're an idiot.

The Spurs have a big man rotation set. It's Tim, Splitter, Dice, Blair, and Bonner. There isn't any minutes for anyone else.

At the SF, we have Jefferson, and you want to back him up with Manu? :lol Go look at how Manu matches up with the premier SFs in the league. And get a freakin' clue.

Shaq gives us nothing at the position. if you watched him play at Cleveland last year, you would know this. He's nothing more than a ball hogging fat ass. The Cavs had to wait on offense for him to get his ass up the court if they couldn't score on a fast break.

How anyone can look at our depth chart, or even say "yeah we're okay at SF with Jefferson and Manu", and then turn around and argue that we need a sixth big is beyond me.

Hell, if you think we need more big man depth, we drafted a big in the second round this year. And he'll come cheaper, with a lot more energy, and a lot less drama.

Oh, and in case you forgot, RJ is not under contract at the moment. So we don't have any depth, we don't even have a starter there! (HINT: Manu, at 6'6", ain't a starting SF in this league!).



Hey, I hear Antoine Carr is available too! He's got a mean streak and would be the perfect sixth big!

You see, I know what kind of fan you are already... you are the type that will dog players during the off season, but once the Spurs sign a guy like Shaq and he averages double digits in rebounding you'll be wetting your panties over his play.
Spurs NEED SHAQ. They don't need Barnes, he sucks. He had one good series in 07 against the Mavs and that's it! Who else do you envision singing at the SF position? Tracy Mcgrady? If the Spurs sign RJ, they should sign Shaq as well, then try to trade for a SF. I would even say trade Blair at this point. I can tell you right now, Mcdysse & Blair will see minutes go down this season. So you should get a clue.

[jag]

Spurs NEED SHAQ.

I would even say trade Blair at this point.

So you should get a clue.

:lmao

[rvman21]

Blair is working on playing SF this year so that does leave a need for Shaq

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You see, I know what kind of fan you are already... you are the type that will dog players during the off season, but once the Spurs sign a guy like Shaq and he averages double digits in rebounding you'll be wetting your panties over his play.
Spurs NEED SHAQ. They don't need Barnes, he sucks. He had one good series in 07 against the Mavs and that's it! Who else do you envision singing at the SF position? Tracy Mcgrady? If the Spurs sign RJ, they should sign Shaq as well, then try to trade for a SF. I would even say trade Blair at this point. I can tell you right now, Mcdysse & Blair will see minutes go down this season. So you should get a clue.

I'm the kind of fan who thinks that anyone clamoring for the Spurs to sign an overweight, ballhogging 38 year old as their sixth big man when the Spurs have no small forwards currently on the roster is a full on retard.

And that's not even getting into the ridiculous idea of Shaq averaging double digit rebounding. He hasn't done it in three years, and all he had to last year to get run was beat out Carrot Top and Ilgauskas in Cleveland for minutes.

Forget you getting a clue. You need a full on brain transplant.

[DJB]

fuck matt barnes

[Dex]

Spurs pretty much have their big rotation set IMO, especially if Richards happens to be brought over or someone like Gist survives training camp.

Duncan / Splitter / Dice / Blair / Bonner.

Anybody the Spurs bring in will only take minutes from those other guys. While I wouldn't cry over lost minutes for Bonner, I'm betting the Spurs didn't give him a raise just to turn around and not play him. :bang

Unless Dice is traded or there is some other crazy business, I'd expect to see this frontline come training camp.

Remaining money will probably be spent on a wing to replace Jefferson, or some other team need like a shooter or a backup point guard (since I'm not sure Pop is ready to roll with Temple quite yet) if Jefferson comes back.

[Janko]

tiago
blair
tim
dice
shaq

it would be perfect if we didn't have bonner -_-

[Spurs9]

SPlitters deal was 10.9 million over 3 years

[rayray2k8]

Shaquille O'Neal tops Mavericks' wish list

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/071310dnspomavsinsider.1df3fa6.html

[SenorSpur]

Shaq gives us nothing at the position. if you watched him play at Cleveland last year, you would know this. He's nothing more than a ball hogging fat ass. The Cavs had to wait on offense for him to get his ass up the court if they couldn't score on a fast break.

How anyone can look at our depth chart, or even say "yeah we're okay at SF with Jefferson and Manu", and then turn around and argue that we need a sixth big is beyond me.

Hell, if you think we need more big man depth, we drafted a big in the second round this year. And he'll come cheaper, with a lot more energy, and a lot less drama.
All this ^

What is with all this romanticism and fascination with Shaq? He is everything AHF mentioned and more. He's been a whiner, moaner and complainer, even when he was dominating the NBA.

He's a bad fit - not just for the Spurs, but for many teams. He's selfishly hanging on trying to 'steal a 5th ring", just to keep up with Kobe and to surpass Duncan. There's just no room for him. Those of you who are clamoring for him, really haven't been following his dramatic decline, poor physical condition, along with his selfish on-court and childish off-court antics.

How can it not be obvious to everyone that this team desparately NEEDS a SF?

[A Haze]

I think Shaq to the Spurs is probably a done deal if you read between the lines. With the Bonner re-acquisition and the Splitter signing, it's pretty clear the Spurs are trying to have one of every type of big man, so they can mix and match pieces based on any particular matchup.

Duncan - The Big Fundamental. Mr Dependable. Offense and defense specialist.
McDyess - Big Man. Shot blocker. Great shot when open at the elbow.
Bonner - The Stretch 4. Adaptive. Solid shot that creates unique spacing for everyone else on offense.
Blair - The Banger. Undersized center developing his skills at the four. Rebounding specialist.
Splitter - The Low Post. Traditional center with a high BB IQ.

The only traditional type of big man that we're missing is the slow, over-the-hill, overpaid player that cripples a team's financial flexibility for the next few years while simultaneously throwing the team into disarray while on the floor. It would be like having our own Dampier for a fraction of the price. GO GET HIM!






(P.S. I love Shaq but he would not be a good fit for this team)

[Agloco]

Now that we have an idea (not sure if it's confirmed) on what Splitter will be making... does that leave room to make Shaq an offer?

No thanks on Shaq.

[johnnySpurs]

You see, I know what kind of fan you are already... you are the type that will dog players during the off season, but once the Spurs sign a guy like Shaq and he averages double digits in rebounding you'll be wetting your panties over his play.
Spurs NEED SHAQ. They don't need Barnes, he sucks. He had one good series in 07 against the Mavs and that's it! Who else do you envision singing at the SF position? Tracy Mcgrady? If the Spurs sign RJ, they should sign Shaq as well, then try to trade for a SF. I would even say trade Blair at this point. I can tell you right now, Mcdysse & Blair will see minutes go down this season. So you should get a clue.

You want to trade a 6'7" player who would average 17 rebounds per 48 with a contract making basically 1 million per year for the next three years? Lets be real, Blair may very likely have the best production to price ratio of any player on our team. Reports are that he's been working on his jumper this offseason and if he has any semblance of a mid-range shot, there is a very good chance that we see him match up against some of the leagues less athletic wing players. A lineup of Blair (SF), Duncan (PF) and Dyess or *gasp* Bonner [when their shots are falling](C) would not be easy for most teams to match up against. Of course, we'd want Blair to see the majority of his minutes at PF and we'll bring in a 6'7" true SF who can hit the occasional 3.

I support trading McDyess, but certainly not Blair.

[rayray2k8]

I think everyone is on the same page when we all say that the spurs should and will probably look to pick up another wing player.
It just makes sense.
After that, LLE is still there for shaq, that is if he wants it and if he's still available which he probably will be.

[Thompson]

Blair is working on playing SF this year so that does leave a need for Shaq

These have to be trolls guys, stop taking them seriously. Can we start banning some of these? The forum is becoming unreadable.

[jaffies]

but once the Spurs sign a guy like Shaq and he averages double digits in rebounding you'll be wetting your panties over his play.
Spurs NEED SHAQ.

The same Shaq who got 6.7 rebounds a game last year?
The same Shaq who hasn't been in double digits in rebounding since 2005?
That Shaq?


I would even say trade Blair at this point.

You know what,

nevermind.

you got me.

troll.

[Juanobili]

The same Shaq who got 6.7 rebounds a game last year?
The same Shaq who hasn't been in double digits in rebounding since 2006?
That Shaq?



You know what,

nevermind.

you got me.

troll.
....has to be a troll...

[anakha]

Jeez, I don't know if some people here are just misguided or all-out retards.

[rmt]

Blair - young, talented and cheap - isn't going anywhere
Dice - experienced, can guard Dirk - FO won't trade him as it would set bad precedent for other vet FAs.
Shaq - guards Bynum and Howard very well, will be motivated to win his 5th
Bonner - the odd man out - doesn't guard anyone well - chokes when wide open

If Spurs can get any 2 of Bell/Barnes/Howard/McGrady/Butler, maybe they won't have to sign Jefferson to a long-term deal. The only thing good about Jefferson is that he's durable - just doesn't fit on the Spurs.

[Gagnrath]

To many people see S. ONeal and think hey this is 25 points and 12 rebounds. It comes from remembering the 90's and the first half of this past decade. The problem is he hasn't gotten any less loud, he has gotten decidedly less funny, and he is definitely no lighter on legs that have been carrying 300+ lbs in the NBA for the last decade and a half. This means that while he's still tall he's now fat and slow. He never did manage to figure out that whole shooting more than 6 feet from the basket thing and he hasn't really gotten much smarter at anticipating people so pick and rolls eat him alive. Did I miss anything?

[tuncaboylu]

Guys guys guys. In our roster, there is no answer against Bynum. We have 5 bigs, but we can't defend that guy with any of them. We need Shaq against Lakers. I also know that we don't have any back-up SF on roster, but we can spend our LLE to get a player like that

[johnnySpurs]

Guys guys guys. In our roster, there is no answer against Bynum. We have 5 bigs, but we can't defend that guy with any of them. We need Shaq against Lakers. I also know that we don't have any back-up SF on roster, but we can spend our LLE to get a player like that

There is a 63% chance he'll be injured anyway.

[silk]

Where does that Blair andSF shit come from ? He's learning PF and no SF

[L.I.T]

Blair is working on playing SF this year so that does leave a need for Shaq

Blair will never be a SF in this league.

[L.I.T]

All this ^

What is with all this romanticism and fascination with Shaq? He is everything AHF mentioned and more. He's been a whiner, moaner and complainer, even when he was dominating the NBA.

He's a bad fit - not just for the Spurs, but for many teams. He's selfishly hanging on trying to 'steal a 5th ring", just to keep up with Kobe and to surpass Duncan. There's just no room for him. Those of you who are clamoring for him, really haven't been following his dramatic decline, poor physical condition, along with his selfish on-court and childish off-court antics.

How can it not be obvious to everyone that this team desparately NEEDS a SF?

Agree.

We had difficulties with interior defense, specifically mobility. Some of it stemmed from not having lock-down perimeter defenders who could reroute perimeter players to certain areas on the floor; but some of that also had to do with how gawdamn slow our bigs have become. Because of the Splitter contract, we have the opportunity to, with just the MLE, try and mitigate that glaring weakness somewhat.

In Splitter, we finally have a second big in there who has length, mobility and quickness to effectively guard the P&R. And with about 2.7M we can hopefully get a respectable three point shooter and defender.

Shaq does nothing to address these problems. The semi-disaster that was our P&R defense last year would reach catastrophe levels with Shaq.

[mystargtr34]

Why are people saying the bigman rotation is set just because there are five bigs? Ifan upgrade becomes available, why wouldnt you pursue it. Not talking about Shaq in particular, but when McDyess and Bonner are two of your bigs, one is 6'7" and another hasnt played an NBA game, your bigman rotation isnt really 'set in stone'.

Apart from that, in a perfect world i would seriously consider signing Shaq. Unfortunately, that perfect world probably involves him being willing to come of the bench.. and sign for the LLE - two things which probably arent possible.

I think he would almost single handedly solve the matchup problem with the Lakers.

[2pac]

Now that we have an idea (not sure if it's confirmed) on what Splitter will be making... does that leave room to make Shaq an offer?

Holy fuck. Shaq isn't coming here. Get it out of your damn heads. We don't want him and he doesn't want us.

We have 5 players at post.
Duncan
Splitter
Dice
Blair
Bonner

We have absolutely no use for Shaq. Move the fuck on, dumbasses.

[Thomas82]

Why are people saying the bigman rotation is set just because there are five bigs? Ifan upgrade becomes available, why wouldnt you pursue it. Not talking about Shaq in particular, but when McDyess and Bonner are two of your bigs, one is 6'7" and another hasnt played an NBA game, your bigman rotation isnt really 'set in stone'.

Apart from that, in a perfect world i would seriously consider signing Shaq. Unfortunately, that perfect world probably involves him being willing to come of the bench.. and sign for the LLE - two things which probably arent possible.

I think he would almost single handedly solve the matchup problem with the Lakers.

I definitely agree with that last line, especially if the Lakers keep their same frontcourt in tact. They have 3 7-footers (Gasol, Bynum, Mbenga) and a 6-10 Lamar Odom.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Guys guys guys. In our roster, there is no answer against Bynum. We have 5 bigs, but we can't defend that guy with any of them. We need Shaq against Lakers. I also know that we don't have any back-up SF on roster, but we can spend our LLE to get a player like that

Backup SF? We don't have a starter right now. What's with all the rookies pining for 50 year old Shaq?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Why are people saying the bigman rotation is set just because there are five bigs? Ifan upgrade becomes available, why wouldnt you pursue it. Not talking about Shaq in particular, but when McDyess and Bonner are two of your bigs, one is 6'7" and another hasnt played an NBA game, your bigman rotation isnt really 'set in stone'.

Apart from that, in a perfect world i would seriously consider signing Shaq. Unfortunately, that perfect world probably involves him being willing to come of the bench.. and sign for the LLE - two things which probably arent possible.

I think he would almost single handedly solve the matchup problem with the Lakers.

Anyone who thinks Shaq will solve any matchup problems against LA hasn't watched him play the last two years. He makes Bonner look like a gazelle. Howard ripped him apart when they played Orlando. Hell, even Perkins punked his ass when they went up against the Celts.

People want us to get younger, then want us to go out and sign a guy who will be 39 at the start of the playoffs who hasn't played worth a shit in over three years. Fuckin' A, done with this thread.

[Marcus Bryant]

The Spurs' rumored interest in Shaq was part of their negotiations with Splitter.

What's now left of the MLE and the LLE will be devoted to filling out the 2 and 3 depth and perhaps to giving Richards more than a minimum contract.

[murpjf88]

We have five big men. We have one small forward. Do the math.

Five big men and only one that can block a shot. The paint is open for business.

[Juanobili]

Never said I wanted Shaq to come over, shit.

Just something to look at since there was apparently interest from both sides.

[2pac]

Five big men and only one that can block a shot. The paint is open for business.

Because blocked shots are absolutely necessary to win.

Last year the Lakers were 16th in blocked shots. The Clippers were 3rd. Clippers had 29 wins.

In 2009, the Lakers were 10th in blocked shots. The Warriors were 1st. The Warriors had 29 wins.

In 2008, the Celtics were 18th in blocked shots (while leading the league in defense and winning the title.) The 3rd worst defense in the NBA, the first round exiting Phoenix Suns, were second in the league in blocks.

Last year, Shaq had a grand total of 62 blocks.

Brilliant. Lets go get Shaq. That will make us win.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Five big men and only one that can block a shot. The paint is open for business.

Actually we've got Tim, Tiago, and Dice that all block shots. But thanks for playing.

[Marcus Bryant]

Rebounding, ability to make defensive rotations consistently, and size are more important than pure shotblocking.

[sa_butta]

Actually we've got Tim, Tiago, and Dice that all block shots. But thanks for playing.
I agree, I dont think he wants what little money we have to offer...Also I dont think there is much room for a 300+lb goliath when we have Tim, Tiago, Dice and Blair, even though Blair is a bit smaller he is still in PF spot.

[Marcus Bryant]

The only way Shaq would make any sense for the Spurs is if McDyess was dealt and he'd be willing to accept the LLE or vet minimum. Anyways, the Spurs had 'interest' in Shaq when they were negotiating with Splitter. Now that they have their starting 5 signed, whatever interest there was is gone.

[franceout]

a question may not be directly relevant, but still about bigs. Brazil national team got three bigs, nene, splitter and varejao, and at most two can start. my question is who are the starters? This chould help estimate how good splitter is.

[murpjf88]

Actually we've got Tim, Tiago, and Dice that all block shots. But thanks for playing.

Dice- .4 blocks/gm
Splitter- .6 Blocks/gm


Dice was such an intimidation factor last year, I could hardly stand it. Tiago has no lift off the ground. Even Steve Nash and Tony Parker had .1 and Ginobili had .3. GET REAL!!!

[sa_butta]

Dice- .4 blocks/gm
Splitter- .6 Blocks/gm


Dice was such an intimidation factor last year, I could hardly stand it. Tiago has no lift off the ground. Even Steve Nash and Tony Parker had .1 and Ginobili had .3. GET REAL!!!

True and maybe they don't always get those blocks but the fact that
Splitter and Duncan are 6'11 and Blair and Dice are 6'9 that at least gives them the ability to alter shots and also provides much needed rebounding.

[My Fault]

People want Shaq the name not the player cause if they really want Shaq the player then they must have not wacthed him the last couple of years. He is very slow and in no way would help this team.

[murpjf88]

Because blocked shots are absolutely necessary to win.

Last year the Lakers were 16th in blocked shots. The Clippers were 3rd. Clippers had 29 wins.

In 2009, the Lakers were 10th in blocked shots. The Warriors were 1st. The Warriors had 29 wins.

In 2008, the Celtics were 18th in blocked shots (while leading the league in defense and winning the title.) The 3rd worst defense in the NBA, the first round exiting Phoenix Suns, were second in the league in blocks.

Last year, Shaq had a grand total of 62 blocks.

Brilliant. Lets go get Shaq. That will make us win.

I'm laughing at your pathetic attempt to compare SA's team defense to that of Boston's and L.a's. You don't watch much basketball do you.

Shaq's 62 (1.2) blocks would be second to none on the Spurs.

No, let's not get Shaq. We don't need Shaq when we have Bonner. Mission accomplished.

[jag]

I'm laughing at your pathetic attempt to compare SA's team defense to that of Boston's and L.a's. You don't watch much basketball do you.

Shaq's 62 (1.2) blocks would be second to none on the Spurs.

No, let's not get Shaq. We don't need Shaq when we have Bonner. Mission accomplished.

Are you under some kind of strange delusion that this is 2005? Did you even watch the Cavs play last year? Did you actually watch how shaq matched up with premier low post players? The fanciful idea of Shaq is not the same as the 2010-2011 reality.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Dice- .4 blocks/gm
Splitter- .6 Blocks/gm


Dice was such an intimidation factor last year, I could hardly stand it. Tiago has no lift off the ground. Even Steve Nash and Tony Parker had .1 and Ginobili had .3. GET REAL!!!

Tiago has no lift? You haven't seen him play a lick, have you? :lol

Shaq came out to about a block a game. Shaq doesn't intimidate people anymore at the rim, outside of them worrying about him falling on them.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm laughing at your pathetic attempt to compare SA's team defense to that of Boston's and L.a's. You don't watch much basketball do you.

Shaq's 62 (1.2) blocks would be second to none on the Spurs.

No, let's not get Shaq. We don't need Shaq when we have Bonner. Mission accomplished.

Actually Shaq's blocks are a second, a distant one at that, to Tim...

[murpjf88]

Are you under some kind of strange delusion that this is 2005? Did you even watch the Cavs play last year? Did you actually watch how shaq matched up with premier low post players? The fanciful idea of Shaq is not the same as the 2010-2011 reality.

No, the sad part is the 2010-11 shaq, is still an upgrade over Dice and Bonner. He can still block shot and rebound. Post injury shaq was much more of a disappointment than pre-injury shaq. He doesn't need to revert back to Shaq 2005 to be successful. Have you seen Duncan's defense in the second half of last year. Talk about non-existent against the PHO Suns. The Spurs are going to trot out an identical team to last year + Splitter. That's not really much of an upgrade defensively.

[2pac]

I'm laughing at your pathetic attempt to compare SA's team defense to that of Boston's and L.a's. You don't watch much basketball do you.

Shaq's 62 (1.2) blocks would be second to none on the Spurs.

No, let's not get Shaq. We don't need Shaq when we have Bonner. Mission accomplished.

Who compared the Spurs team defense to Boston or LA's? English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

Fucking dumbass.

Not only do I watch NBA basketball, I get paid to be on the sidelines, unlike you. Shaq is done. He will do absolutely nothing but hinder our team defense. He isn't quick enough to rotate. He can't guard the PnR. He is toast.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No, the sad part is the 2010-11 shaq, is still an upgrade over Dice and Bonner. He can still block shot and rebound. Post injury shaq was much more of a disappointment than pre-injury shaq. He doesn't need to revert back to Shaq 2005 to be successful. Have you seen Duncan's defense in the second half of last year. Talk about non-existent against the PHO Suns. The Spurs are going to trot out an identical team to last year + Splitter. That's not really much of an upgrade defensively.

Yeah, Tim's D slipped last year. So let's get Shaq and start ahead of him :rolleyes

Shaq at best would be the fourth big behind Tim, Blair, and Tiago this season.

Meanwhile, we have zero players under contract at this moment with a SF next to their name.

But by all means keep bitching about upgrading .3 blocks per game over 'Dice with a 40 year old ball hogging fat ass. :tu

[boutons_deux]

Shaq is shot, has been for 5 years. Fat, slow, totally disinterested, outta shape, missing lots of games due to injuries.

[murpjf88]

I'm laughing at your pathetic attempt to compare SA's team defense to that of Boston's and L.a's. You don't watch much basketball do you.

Shaq's 62 (1.2) blocks would be second to none on the Spurs.

No, let's not get Shaq. We don't need Shaq when we have Bonner. Mission accomplished.


Actually Shaq's blocks are a second, a distant one at that, to Tim...

Reading comprehension Fail. Not surprising though


Tiago has no lift? You haven't seen him play a lick, have you? :lol

Shaq came out to about a block a game. Shaq doesn't intimidate people anymore at the rim, outside of them worrying about him falling on them.


Shaq scores (12.0), rebounds (6.7), and block shots (1.2). Those are hall of fame numbers compared to Bonner and Dice.

[CubanMustGo]

I'm trying to figure out how AHF has a reading comprehension fail when Shaq's 1.2 BPG < Tim's 1.5. "Second to none on the Spurs" must mean something different in your world.

[murpjf88]

Yeah, Tim's D slipped last year. So let's get Shaq and start ahead of him :rolleyes

Shaq at best would be the fourth big behind Tim, Blair, and Tiago this season.

Meanwhile, we have zero players under contract at this moment with a SF next to their name.

But by all means keep bitching about upgrading .3 blocks per game over 'Dice with a 40 year old ball hogging fat ass. :tu

What a delusional mess of a post. Put down the crack pipe. Shaq doesn't replace Duncan at PF, he plays alongside TD.

It's laughable that you consider an undersized Blair a big man. You don't even no how well Tiago will adapt to the NBA. I thought Pop's system was tough to crack. Just look at RJ's struggles, and yet,. Tiago will make an instant impact.

RJ will be under contract sooner rather than later barring any S&T.

The upgrade over Dice is .8 Shaq (1.2) Dice (.4)

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Reading comprehension Fail. Not surprising though



Second to none would mean Shaq is the best on the squad, numb nuts.



Shaq scores (12.0), rebounds (6.7), and block shots (1.2). Those are hall of fame numbers compared to Bonner and Dice.

And? Shaq wouldn't be getting enough run to get those numbers behind Tim, Tiago, and Blair next year. And that's not taking into account the fact that Shaq is a defensive sieve these days (has been for three years).

There's a reason that Cleveland, even when it thought LeBron was coming back, didn't want him back. There's a reason Phoenix let him go.

Get a fucking clue.

And like I said, we don't have any small forwards currently under contract for the Spurs for 2010-2011. You're bitching about a sixth big when we don't have a first or second small forward.

And like Marcus said, our interest in Shaq was only to get Tiago to sign on the dotted line.

I feel sorry for anyone stuck on stupid, like you apparently are.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

What a delusional mess of a post. Put down the crack pipe. Shaq doesn't replace Duncan at PF, he plays alongside TD.

It's laughable that you consider an undersized Blair a big man. You don't even no how well Tiago will adapt to the NBA. I thought Pop's system was tough to crack. Just look at RJ's struggles, and yet,. Tiago will make an instant impact.

RJ will be under contract sooner rather than later barring any S&T.

The upgrade over Dice is .8 Shaq (1.2) Dice (.4)

Hey you were the one saying Tim was shot last year defensively. If you think Tim is shot, you clearly haven't seen Shaq play. Shaq of the last two years makes Tim's last year look like DRob in his prime.

It's laughable you think Shaq would play next to Tim and not be a defensive sieve, and not slow down our offense. Cleveland had to take him out of their games to open up the paint for LeBron, yet you think he'd be an asset here with Tony and Manu running around?

If Tiago doesn't adapt, we're sunk anyway. We know Shaq is already washed up, so yeah I'd rather give Tiago run than waste it on 354 year old Shaquille O'Neal's fat ass.

I know RJ will likely be under contract soon. That gives us exactly one SF. And you're still bitching about a sixth big, who would at best be fourth in our big man rotation.

Shaq isn't an upgrade over Dice, unless you want to talk about shot blocking in a vacuum. If you factor in actually being able to rotate on defense, or actually guard someone, Dice is a no brainer.

Unless you think Shaq's fat ass is going to guard guys like Dirk, Odom, Howard, etc. :lmao

Hey you know what? Maybe we can sign Willis, Perdue, and get DRob to come out of retirement! They'd all contribute about as much as Shaq, and they all had awesome block numbers their last seasons!

I'm done with this conversation.

[dbestpro]

Shaq is going to Dallas so he can go for the record. He wants to record back to back to back firing of coaches. He got Porter, and Brown and he wants to add Carlisle to his collection too.
Besides, he wants to teach Ian how to shoot free throws.

[Kermit]

How did this happen? When did a infinitesimal minority of Spurs fans start to advocate for the laziest fatass this side of T-Park? What the fuck is wrong with you assholes?

[jiggy_55]

Well, looks like Dallas just acquired Ty Chandler, so seems Shaq is out of the question for them.

WojYahooNBA: Charlotte has traded Tyson Chandler and Alex Ajinca to Dallas for Dampier, Matt Carroll and Najera, a league source tells Y! Sports.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18457897982

[jimo2305]

even james dolan would laugh at some of y'all's suggestions about shaq

[sabar]

Have any of the Shaq advocates actually watched him play since the Miami Heat title run?

We do not need one of the slowest and oldest players in the league. We need interior defense, not someone that lets guards and bigs fly past him because he is so fat. For every block Shaq gets, he blows the next five pick and rolls for free buckets.

[Texas_Ranger]

Anyone who watched the Tiago press conf can see we need shaq......splitters body is one of a 12year old boy......Hes gonna get pushed all over the place.

Well Tim also looked like him 10 years ago.

[Duncan2177]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/419626-a-duncan-and-shaq-alliance



Nearly a week after the “Decision,” all the buzz still centers on LeBron James.
Dan Gilbert’s scathing rebuke of his former centerpiece echoes the unspoken feelings of many of his peers, as well as a large segment of angry fans.


As the Miami Heat intensify their effort to build a team around their core of superstars, the contenders are continuing to stockpile talent for a probable showdown with the newly favored Eastern Conference contender in South Beach.


The Boston Celtics wasted no time signing former Miami Heat center Jermaine O’Neal. Dallas and Utah are wrangling over once-coveted big man Al Jefferson. The San Antonio Spurs quietly added the best big man in Europe, Tiago Splitter, to their roster.


Far more intriguing are the whispers of a mutual interest between the future Hall of Famer Shaquille O’Neal and the San Antonio Spurs. When the dust finally settles on the summer of 2010, it might be remembered as the period when the Diesel and the Big Fundamental partnered up to take on all the young guns.


What would the addition of Shaq mean for the Spurs? Let’s examine the pros and cons of a possible Duncan and Shaq partnership.


Let’s begin with the assumption that the Spurs are able to re-sign Richard Jefferson.
The starting lineup for San Antonio could then be Shaq, Duncan, Jefferson, Ginobili, and Parker.
Shaq would give the Spurs the size in the middle they have been searching for since the days of David Robinson. Unlike Tiago Splitter, Shaq is a veteran of the NBA and knows all of the nuances that separate this league from international basketball. It is this experience that would give O’Neal the nod over the younger Splitter.


With Shaq manning the post, Duncan would be able to shift to power forward. He would once again assume the role of the weak side defender, a role that he has excelled at over the course of his career.


This front court tandem, with the addition of Tiago Splitter alongside DeJuan Blair, should instantly improve the team’s rebounding and shot blocking, two areas of concern much of last season.


From an offensive standpoint, Duncan and Shaq are both excellent back-to-the-basket post players. If they can find a way to co-exist on the block or in a high low set, they should be able to generate a healthy point production between the two of them.


Both players are excellent passers, either hitting cutters to the basket with pinpoint precision or kicking it out to a spot up shooter off of a double team. If the Spurs wing players are able improve their three point efficiency to the levels seen during their championship years, teams will find it difficult to contain Duncan and O’Neal in single man coverage.


With Shaq playing alongside Duncan the Spurs should see considerable improvement offensively and defensively.


Nevertheless, there are some potential pitfalls to this merger.
Teams that feature up-tempo offenses, like the Phoenix Suns, will be able to exploit the Spurs' transition defense with O’Neal on the court. They could find a measure of success against the Spurs jumbo lineup if they are able to stretch the defense with big men who are able to shoot it from deep, like Dirk Nowitzki, which could create driving lanes for speedy guards.


The biggest risk facing the Spurs with the duo of Duncan and O’Neal on the court during crunch time would be free-throws. O’Neal shot 49.6 percent from the free throw line last year. Although Duncan shot a respectable 72.5 percent, he was extremely inconsistent when it mattered most.
Fans could end up watching some very ugly basketball in the closing minutes of the game as the opposing teams implement their “hack a Duncan-Shaq” strategy.


When the pros are measured against the cons in regards to this potential alliance between two of the greatest big men to play the game, the scales lean considerably in favor of the pros.
Aside from the basketball aspects, bringing Shaq to San Antonio would be a huge financial incentive. It would most certainly make for “must-see TV.” Among the story lines for the 2010-11 season could be “Shaq’s Last Stand at the Alamo,” “Duncan and Shaq’s Pursuit of Kobe’s Fifth Title,” or “King James Foiled by the Old Towers.”


Due to the unexpected salary cap increase, the San Antonio Spurs were able to solidify their front court with the signing of Matt Bonner and Tiago Splitter. They still have $2.365 million of their MLE to use. More than likely, it is earmarked for Richard Jefferson or another small foward which makes the acquisition of Shaq a long shot.
Needless to say, Shaquille O’Neal in a San Antonio Spurs uniform would be one of the best stories resulting from the summer of LeBron.

[Mal]

Show me the money to sign Shaq

[rayray2k8]

Among the story lines for the 2010-11 season could be “Shaq’s Last Stand at the Alamo,” “Duncan and Shaq’s Pursuit of Kobe’s Fifth Title,” or “King James Foiled by the Old Towers.”
:lol

Pretty much what we all expect to happen if Shaq does sign with the spurs. A few up but a lot of downs to the signing...

[ChumpDumper]

It might be Fawlty Towers if they play much together.

[jaffies]

It might be Fawlty Towers if they play much together.

I'm guessing Manu can be Manuel.

Que?

[Thomas82]

Well, looks like Dallas just acquired Ty Chandler, so seems Shaq is out of the question for them.

WojYahooNBA: Charlotte has traded Tyson Chandler and Alex Ajinca to Dallas for Dampier, Matt Carroll and Najera, a league source tells Y! Sports.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18457897982

And they even reached an agreement with Ian Mahinmi. So that means they can match up with the Lakers size-wise. The Lakers would still beat them, but at least now they have the size to hang with them now. The Mavericks now have 4 7-footers and a 6-11 guy. At the very least, they'll have plenty of big bodies to throw at the Lakers when they play against them.

[Indazone]

That would be interesting to see Shaq playing alongside Duncan. I would purposely have to watch Spurs games now. I don't buy the Suns would run circles around Shaq Duncan though. You can always sub Shaq out and put Splitter in and play smallball for speed. It's all about flexibility.

[Thomas82]

that would be interesting to see shaq playing alongside duncan. I would purposely have to watch spurs games now. i don't buy the suns would run circles around shaq duncan though. You can always sub shaq out and put splitter in and play smallball for speed. It's all about flexibility.

+1

[ATXSPUR]

Anybody that thinks Shaq helps us from a basketball standpoint does not know what they are talking about. That being said, I feel like the window has closed on this team no matter what we do, therefore I would have no problem with getting Shaq just for laughs. At least it will be an entertaining season.

[intlspurshk]

I would rather go for Dampier

[TDMVPDPOY]

That would be interesting to see Shaq playing alongside Duncan. I would purposely have to watch Spurs games now. I don't buy the Suns would run circles around Shaq Duncan though. You can always sub Shaq out and put Splitter in and play smallball for speed. It's all about flexibility.

small ball is crap, spurs should be dictating how the game is played not the other way round, thats how spurs loss on most occasions trying to play small ball

play big and pound it inside, force the other team to play our style, half court grind it out

[Agloco]

Anybody that thinks Shaq helps us from a basketball standpoint does not know what they are talking about. That being said, I feel like the window has closed on this team no matter what we do, therefore I would have no problem with getting Shaq just for laughs. At least it will be an entertaining season.

This. Unless Splitter and Anderson turn out to be much more than we expected and Tony and Manu return to 07 form, it's pretty much all academic. Blair and our "yet to be named" SF backup would need to have stellar seasons as well.

I don't see it all happening at once, but I still don't wanna see Shaq in a Spurs uniform. That's just all "kinds o' wrong".

[Russ]

I could see Shaq resenting the young, up and coming Tiago Splitter and letting it show.

With Splitter trying to adjust to the US and being used to team play and camaraderie in Europe, his confidence might suffer.

It's a tough call only because Shaq has become a locker room problem the last few years.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

With the West getting bigger and bigger we better do all we can to sign him.....Hell do a sign and trade with Clev give them a future pick, and some cash....Shaq Splitter TD Blair, Bonner, Dice......you have it all.

Except a starting or backup small forward.

:bang

[Gino20]

I would be excited if the Spurs got Shaq! However, they have more pressing needs at the moment.

The back-up SF position needs to be filled. I would be ok with Bell, Butler, and to a less degree...Jones. If J-Ho was healthy, I would be all for him as well! His injury has me concerned and I think he will be a liability in the short-run for us.

After this has been filled, I would like the Spurs to make a move for Shaq! Of course, he would need to take the minimum (the back-up SF would use the remaining amount of the MLE or vice verca). I think Shaq can provide some good minutes for the team off the bench!!! Although alot of bigs, our rotation would be deep with Duncan, Splitter, Blair, Shaq, McDyess, and Bonner. With this rotation, we have size, defense, rebounding, experience, 3 point shooting (limited), and the luxury if resting Duncan and McDyess throughout the season. Also, we all no know Pop has a short fuse for rookies, so it wouldn't surprise me if he pulls the plug early on Splitter some nights. There is also the fact that he probably will not benefit from foul calls in the NBA during his rookie year and can possibly face foul trouble. Of course, this would probably mean McDyess sees limited minutes if any on most nights. I would be ok with this to keep him fresh for the playoffs.

:flag::lobt2:

[Indazone]

Just play Bonner at Small Forward. He doesn't like to bang in the low post anyways and he's got a nice 3 pt stroke.

[Duncan2177]

http://nba-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/23211708?tag=headlines;nba



Scratch that Shaq-to-the-Hawks talk
Posted on: July 16, 2010 9:44 am
Edited on: July 16, 2010 9:51 amScore: 142Log-in to rate:Log-in to rate:Log-in to rate:Posted by Royce Young

Both Michael Cunningham of the Atlanta Journal Constitution and Brian Windhorst of the Plain Dealer report that it's unlikely Shaq is going to Atlanta in a sign-and-trade. Windhorst says the teams have indeed talked, but just aren't anywhere close to making it happen.

There was talk earlier in the week that made it sound like the two sides were pretty closed to getting together. But as Cunningham points out, the Hawks don't want to bust the luxury tax and the numbers aren't lining up.

The Hawks were talked about as a prime destination for Shaq along with Miami, San Antonio and Dallas. Now with the Mavs putting 45 centers on the roster and the Heat spending money on Udonis Haslem, Juwan Howard and others, San Antonio looks to be the destination.

For shame Shaq isn't headed to the ATL. I just came up with the nickname I liked: The Big Peach.
Category: NBA Tags: 2010 free agency, Atlanta Hawks, Cleveland Cavaliers, Shaquille O'Neal

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

San Antonio looks to be the destination.


fml

[celldweller]

http://nba-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/23211708?tag=headlines;nba



Scratch that Shaq-to-the-Hawks talk
Posted on: July 16, 2010 9:44 am
Edited on: July 16, 2010 9:51 amScore: 142Log-in to rate:Log-in to rate:Log-in to rate:Posted by Royce Young

Both Michael Cunningham of the Atlanta Journal Constitution and Brian Windhorst of the Plain Dealer report that it's unlikely Shaq is going to Atlanta in a sign-and-trade. Windhorst says the teams have indeed talked, but just aren't anywhere close to making it happen.

There was talk earlier in the week that made it sound like the two sides were pretty closed to getting together. But as Cunningham points out, the Hawks don't want to bust the luxury tax and the numbers aren't lining up.

The Hawks were talked about as a prime destination for Shaq along with Miami, San Antonio and Dallas. Now with the Mavs putting 45 centers on the roster and the Heat spending money on Udonis Haslem, Juwan Howard and others, San Antonio looks to be the destination.

For shame Shaq isn't headed to the ATL. I just came up with the nickname I liked: The Big Peach.
Category: NBA Tags: 2010 free agency, Atlanta Hawks, Cleveland Cavaliers, Shaquille O'Neal

Here we go again. :rolleyes

[Gino2882]

While it makes for a cool story (and I admit I would like to see Shaq and Duncan together) it just doesn't fit. I mean the Spurs for their man in Tiago Splitter who is expected to log heavy minutes at center. Matt Bonner was re-upped to the dismay of the city of San Antonio so he will be getting minutes. Dejuan Blair, especially if he adds a jumpshot, deserves more minutes. The only player who can be subtracted from the current bigs rotation is McDyess. The problem with getting rid of Dyess and replacing him with Shaq is your going to lose a jump shooting big who actually is a big (see: Matt perimeter Bonner).

Plus, does anyone think Shaq is coming here for 2 years and 5 million? I don't.

[Fpoonsie]

Dude. Seriously.

No fuckin way.

[Blackjack]

When you're paying your fifth Big over $3M, you might as well pay your sixth over $2M.

[Fpoonsie]

Honestly, how has this fat fuck's heart not exploded yet?

[EricB]

Seems like the article just assumes that's what will happen as opposed to anything else....

[Blackjack]

Insulation?

[timvp]

Unless Shaq wants to play with the Toros, I don't see why the Spurs would sign him now.

[thOOdee]

anything to throw bonner further down the bench line

[lefty]

Shaq wants to eat toros

[jermaine]

You muthafuckas gotta be D dumbest sumbitches! We only need Shaq for the Elite teams & the playoff! 2 million for that is dam good! Shaq had a double double in many gms with the Cavs. I wish I was sittin nxt 2 some of yal so I could slap the piss outta some of you that say Shaq to Spurs would suck!

[Big Empty]

You muthafuckas gotta be D dumbest sumbitches! We only need Shaq for the Elite teams & the playoff! 2 million for that is dam good! Shaq had a double double in many gms with the Cavs. I wish I was sittin nxt 2 some of yal so I could slap the piss outta some of you that say Shaq to Spurs would suck!
i concur with Mr. Jackson

[Xolotl]

You muthafuckas gotta be D dumbest sumbitches! We only need Shaq for the Elite teams & the playoff! 2 million for that is dam good! Shaq had a double double in many gms with the Cavs. I wish I was sittin nxt 2 some of yall so I could slap the piss outta some of you that say Shaq to Spurs would suck!

I could not have said it more eloquently or agreed so much

[cantthinkofanything]

You muthafuckas gotta be D dumbest sumbitches! We only need Shaq for the Elite teams & the playoff! 2 million for that is dam good! Shaq had a double double in many gms with the Cavs. I wish I was sittin nxt 2 some of yal so I could slap the piss outta some of you that say Shaq to Spurs would suck!

Word my ninja.

[nkdlunch]

You muthafuckas gotta be D dumbest sumbitches! We only need Shaq for the Elite teams & the playoff! 2 million for that is dam good! Shaq had a double double in many gms with the Cavs. I wish I was sittin nxt 2 some of yal so I could slap the piss outta some of you that say Shaq to Spurs would suck!

fuck Shaq. Dude is cancer in the locker room. Whatever he does on the court (playoffs or not), which is VERY LITTLE at this stage, is cancelled out by the shit he brings to the lockerroom.

Shaq to the Spurs would suck. What u gonna do biatch?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You muthafuckas gotta be D dumbest sumbitches! We only need Shaq for the Elite teams & the playoff! 2 million for that is dam good! Shaq had a double double in many gms with the Cavs. I wish I was sittin nxt 2 some of yal so I could slap the piss outta some of you that say Shaq to Spurs would suck!

Shaq was such an asset he had to be benched against the 'elite' teams in the East.

Good call, homie!

[HankChinaski]

There would be mismatches with him on the floor especially considering how slow we are with our front court playing guys on the perimeter. This would magnify this hole more.

He could effectively clog up the lane and get you buckets and boards inside, but his motor is just going to make this team slow and considering the depth we already have with the front court now why would we have 6 BIGS in the lineup?

I can see how Shaq could possibly help, but he would hurt more than he would help.

[rmt]

If they re-sign RJ and get a backup SF, then Shaq for the LLE or rest of MLE is not a bad idea. Alternate Dice and Shaq and play Duncan 25 mins/game. He would be another option when LA trots out Bynum and Gasol together. Since we're not sure that Splitter can handle one of them or Dwight Howard, Shaq is great insurance because we know he can handle Bynum and Howard. If Shaq's not going to the Heat, Lakers, Boston or Orlando, he'll come to SA (he's not going to ATL as he wants to win).

This is why that Bonner's contract annoys me so - if it prevents the Spurs from getting players because they're up against the luxury tax.

[DesignatedT]

You muthafuckas gotta be D dumbest sumbitches! We only need Shaq for the Elite teams & the playoff! 2 million for that is dam good! Shaq had a double double in many gms with the Cavs. I wish I was sittin nxt 2 some of yal so I could slap the piss outta some of you that say Shaq to Spurs would suck!

real talk.

[jermaine]

What u gonna do biatch?
I'm goin to go to work an wish I was sittin next to you so you could get slapped da piss out! In not some internet gangsta babygirl!

[dbestpro]

The problem with Shaq rests with the way Pop likes to coach. Pop could dictate inside matches but Pop likes to counter punch. He does not like to dictate the matchups, but rather try to counter match ups from the other team. If the opposing team goes small do will Pop even if he has a 20 point lead and has been beating the tar out of the other team with a big line up.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

If Shaq had wanted it bad enough he could have been the best big man the league has ever seen. His work ethic killed his legacy.


He'd be fun to see in the KWill role...something he'd never agree to. So, pass.

[bigzak25]

If Shaq agreed to join the Spurs, it would be with one thought in his mind.

Dethrone Kobe and the Lakers.

He would obviously not be here for the money. He would be here to win a ring or two before he hangs it up.

For this reason, if he was to choose to be a Spur, I feel he would be very motivated to get into the best shape possible.

Also, this would allow TD to get more rest during the regular season, which is key to our Spurs playoff hopes.

Pop owns the locker room. Shaq would come here to work hard and play ball.

He would not be a disruption.

I hope he considers it. :flag:

[SenorSpur]

fuck Shaq. Dude is cancer in the locker room. Whatever he does on the court (playoffs or not), which is VERY LITTLE at this stage, is cancelled out by the shit he brings to the lockerroom.

Shaq to the Spurs would suck. What u gonna do biatch?

Good work, Nkdlunch

I wonder how many more times does this need to be brought up? Why is this so difficult for folks to comprehend?

Shaq supporters have either looked the other way or are seemingly in deep denial, when it comes to Shaq and his diminishing returns and divisive attitude. This guy had done nothing but wreck chemistry and cause trouble everywhere he's been. The deal is, that it was easier to look the other way because he was the most dominant player in the NBA. He hasn't been in about six years.

Much like Terrell Owens, now that his skills are in decline, he's simply no longer worth the risk. It's should be no mystery to anyone WHY he's moved around and WHY he's out of work now. No one is willing to put with his constant demand for touches, his backstabbing, selfish, attitude, and his childish, immature, coach-killing actions.

I expect RC and Pop to be smart enough not to move in this direction. He's not coming to the Spurs.

[SenorSpur]

If they re-sign RJ and get a backup SF, then Shaq for the LLE or rest of MLE is not a bad idea.

Have you not heard? Shaq reportedly wants "Brendan Haywood" type money.

Good luck with that
:lol

[BadMotorscooter]

If we can get Shaq for the right price....I'm in. Give me a rotation of Duncan/Splitter/Shaq/McDyess for down in the paint. It would allow us to move Blair to the SF spot instead of being an undersized PF. At the SF spot he would become a beast.

[Supergirl]

Shaq's price (like RJ's) must be going down every day he doesn't sign somewhere.

I'd sign him for vet min in a heartbeat, and I am sure the Spurs FO would too.

[dbreiden83080]

Won't happen..

[BadMotorscooter]

Heres the thing. The Lakers front court consists of Artest/Gasol/Bynum. And we can counter that with Blair/Duncan/Shaq? I'll take it. Hell ya I will. Moving Blair to the SF and giving Duncan some size beside him in Shaq. I dont know if there would be a better counter in the West to face the Lakers up front. Artest trying to contain Blair would be fun to watch.

[bigzak25]

Heres the thing. The Lakers front court consists of Artest/Gasol/Bynum. And we can counter that with Blair/Duncan/Shaq? I'll take it. Hell ya I will. Moving Blair to the SF and giving Duncan some size beside him in Shaq. I dont know if there would be a better counter in the West to face the Lakers up front. Artest trying to contain Blair would be fun to watch.


That's too many post players on the court at the same time.

Replace Shaq with Splitter and Blair with a 3 point shooting SF and you're on target.

[BadMotorscooter]

That's too many post players on the court at the same time.

Replace Shaq with Splitter and Blair with a 3 point shooting SF and you're on target.

Naw, I think you keep Splitter on the bench his 1st year. Let him learn the pace of the game. Dont throw him to the wolves out of the gate. Plus he would learn the game from Shaq and Duncan...the 2 most dominant post players this decade. How great would that be for his game? On top of it, when the Lakers counter with Odom off the bench, we counter with Splitter. We cant counter with Shaq or Bonner or Mcdyess. Also you let Hill, Anderson and Splitter develop a connection for the future in playing the 2nd unit.

[Leonard Curse]

You muthafuckas gotta be D dumbest sumbitches! We only need Shaq for the Elite teams & the playoff! 2 million for that is dam good! Shaq had a double double in many gms with the Cavs. I wish I was sittin nxt 2 some of yal so I could slap the piss outta some of you that say Shaq to Spurs would suck!
:toast totally agree esp after picking up bonner we need more DEfense

[4>0rings]

You muthafuckas gotta be D dumbest sumbitches! We only need Shaq for the Elite teams & the playoff! 2 million for that is dam good! Shaq had a double double in many gms with the Cavs. I wish I was sittin nxt 2 some of yal so I could slap the piss outta some of you that say Shaq to Spurs would suck!
Add my hand in the slapping of Spurs fans.

[bigzak25]

Naw, I think you keep Splitter on the bench his 1st year. Let him learn the pace of the game. Dont throw him to the wolves out of the gate. Plus he would learn the game from Shaq and Duncan...the 2 most dominant post players this decade. How great would that be for his game? On top of it, when the Lakers counter with Odom off the bench, we counter with Splitter. We cant counter with Shaq or Bonner or Mcdyess. Also you let Hill, Anderson and Splitter develop a connection for the future in playing the 2nd unit.



But TD needs to rest and having TD and Shaq on the court at the same time is a slow combo...would only work vs slow teams...otherwise the other team will fast break us to death and tire our big boys out rather quickly.

I think we should expect Splitter to start...unless Pop takes it slow and has Mcdyess starting at first...

agree with you about the 2nd units chemistry...i'm sure Pop will figure it out.

[BadMotorscooter]

But TD needs to rest and having TD and Shaq on the court at the same time is a slow combo...would only work vs slow teams...otherwise the other team will fast break us to death and tire our big boys out rather quickly.

I think we should expect Splitter to start...unless Pop takes it slow and has Mcdyess starting at first...

agree with you about the 2nd units chemistry...i'm sure Pop will figure it out.

A starting slow combo just worked for Boston getting to the Finals in Garnett and Wallace. We'll just go back to what made us successful...a halfcourt game. Slow the pace. Not a lot of fast break points like that. We'd be fine.

[slick'81]

really who cares hes not gonna be a spur

[Leonard Curse]

definitely not a starter but if you were to ask spurs fans who they want on the foor during crunch time in the playoffs Bonner or Shaq???? you know who would be called upon, and yes we know shaq isnt in la or even mia form but he is still 5th big ahead of bonner form and if splitter and timmy cant box out bynum in the playoffs who do you think would be able to check him?
he didnt play against elite teams because brown is an idiot he also benched hickson throughout the playoffs and lost those games and his job. all im saying is that shaq can take some time away from matt being overplayed and can help our interior defense off the bench & shows up in the playoffs.

[FilSpursFan]

he can help on free throws. The Spurs need help there.

:tu:tu

[TheKingOfMIA6]

lol Shaq badly wants that 5th ring.

[Kindergarten Cop]

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/23224606?source=rss_blogs_NBA

While the Hawks have ruled out paying luxury tax to sign Shaquille O'Neal -- or any other free agent, for that matter -- the organization hasn't shut the door completely on bringing Shaq to Atlanta, a person familiar with the team's thinking told CBSSports.com. If O'Neal were to lower his asking price from the mid-level exception -- starting at about $5.8 million -- to the bi-annual exception of about $1.9 million, the Hawks would be interested in exploring such a signing. Atlanta would be able to pay O'Neal the bi-annual exception -- or a portion of its mid-level -- and avoid paying luxury tax. But the current ownership group has never paid luxury tax and doesn't plan to begin paying it now. Also, the Hawks haven't discussed -- nor are they interested in -- a sign-and-trade arrangement with the Cavs that would cost them a piece of their young core, sources say.

[bigzak25]

so it seems as many of you have speculated, that his options for larger pay days are dwindling...

He'd be foolish not to join a contender if it was no longer about the money.


A starting slow combo just worked for Boston getting to the Finals in Garnett and Wallace. We'll just go back to what made us successful...a halfcourt game. Slow the pace. Not a lot of fast break points like that. We'd be fine.

You may have a point. I'll have to concede, as I did not watch a minute of the NBA finals this year. However, I do feel that while we can assuredly slow our offensive pace down, I'd be worried about our defensive pace. By the time Shaq and TD get down the floor on D, the other team with fast break players would have already gotten their shot at an unprotected basket. You bring up a good point though, because if i recall correctly, what got Boston to the finals was their tenacious team defense, which is what our Spurs will have to return to to bring the title home.

[G-Dawgg]

Our 'nba best' defensive days are over.. we are at least one proven Shotblocker and one elite perimeter defender away from being a top defensive team again, and without defensive stops, a slow half-court game wouldn't be a good idea for us unless we want to lose games by big margines on a regular basis....

[Silver&Black]

lol Shaq badly wants that 5th ring.

And he'll do whatever it takes to get it. People are saying that he's going to the Hawks. Please...No 5th ring in the ATL.

:flag:

[smrattler]

Does this "rumor" even have any legs?

Going on 15 pages now...

[Chillen]

I don't care what anyone says, Duncan and Shaq would give the Lakers problems. If he wants to come and the Spurs want him it's a good move.

[Srupsog]

Say we do sign Shaq for a good price. Would it be a good idea to have shaq and Tim Duncan alternate nights. For example TD play one night and then Shaq start in his place the next game while TD rests, this way TD is well rested for the playoffs and Shaq is best utilized. And of course some games they would both play, but probably not together on the court at the same time; they would be too slow. But either Shaq and TD always on the court means we will always have a shotblocker and low post presence.

What do you guys think?

[Vic Petro]

Instead of paying all that money to Shaq we should just split the salary in half and hire Mark Eaton to be our West Coast Center and Rik Smits to be our East Coast Center.

This way for home games Duncan can be the center but he doesn't have to travel with the team. We can choose a latitudinal line to be the cutoff between Eaton games and Smits games.

[PM5K]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha


ha ha ha ha ha ha

[rvman21]

Two not so bad ideas, Duncan's minutes are going to seriously be limited this season even more than last year but he'll be ready hopefully he'll do at least as good as this year or better

[Obstructed_View]

You'd think someone would have more to do in their life than create new accounts and start dumbass threads.

[tuncaboylu]

Wow, what an original trade it is?

[SenorSpur]

Good God. Not again!

It's amazing that this ridiculous prospect and ongoing fascination with the "Big Fat Ass", the "Big Chemistry Killer", "the Big Fraud", simply wont die.

[Drachen]

Just to be nice:

If it wasn't Shaq, I would say that it is an interesting idea, but I have no interest in shaq.

[My Fault]

I have a feeling this is not the last Shaq thread.

[SpurCharger]

Shaq for the LLE Would be Good.... But Anything more then that, then HELL NO!

[ceperez]

Can we bring back the twin towers?

I know it is going to cramp development of Splitter and even Blair, the team will definitely hit the luxury tax. But, for this team to challenge the Lakers or Heat, it'll need more than the rookies it signed up. Besides, Duncan has two more years and based on the Suns series, he isn't what he used to be. Let's get real folks, Duncan and Ginobili have only 2 more years of gas left, unfortunately, these 2 years have the toughest competition we have ever seen.

Is the gamble to sign Shaq worth it?

[Darkwaters]

No

[Darkwaters]

To elaborate on my previous post...

The Spurs should reject Shaq if he does not agree to all of the following:

1) No guaranteed minutes. No guarantee that he will even suit up. He is the 6th big - there for situational roles and injury backfill.

2) Nothing more than the veteran's minimum. Period.

3) Shut the fuck up for two years.

If he can agree to the following then ok I guess. Fuck sign up Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady under the same conditional terms.

[quentin_compson]

John Martyn once wrote a song about the shape Shaq is in these days:

5WAEslKGgpY

[SenorSpur]

Good God! Not again.

These constant Shaq threads are much like gray hairs - everytime you think you've gotten rid of one, there is another to take its place.

[baseline bum]

If by Twin Towers, you mean 9/12, then yeah, Shaq would go a long ways in that direction.

[ceperez]

To elaborate on my previous post...

The Spurs should reject Shaq if he does not agree to all of the following:

1) No guaranteed minutes. No guarantee that he will even suit up. He is the 6th big - there for situational roles and injury backfill.

2) Nothing more than the veteran's minimum. Period.

3) Shut the fuck up for two years.



I agree except for (2) being not likely. 2 years, $5 million/year, team option on 2nd year more like it.

[Xevious]

Shaq wants more than the vet min (which is probably why he hasn't been signed yet), and he'll want to start. Duncan and Shaq starting together is a recipe for disaster. Who's going to guard the athletic PFs? Duncan will get run ragged chasing around guys like Dirk, Bosh, Amare, etc. Shaq getting any significant minutes will also impede Splitters progress.

[Muser]

A blind fat retarded kid can defend the pick n'roll better than Shaq. No thanks.

[ceperez]

Shaq wants more than the vet min (which is probably why he hasn't been signed yet), and he'll want to start. Duncan and Shaq starting together is a recipe for disaster. Who's going to guard the athletic PFs? Duncan will get run ragged chasing around guys like Dirk, Bosh, Amare, etc. Shaq getting any significant minutes will also impede Splitters progress.

Good point.

[ceperez]

A blind fat retarded kid can defend the pick n'roll better than Shaq. No thanks.

True.

[Leonard Curse]

if hes coming off the bench then he wouldnt be defending alot of pick and rolls, i think if we got him we can get our best pick and roll defender and shaq out there to slam bodies on the ground, we need some muscle to keep up with the massives in this league

[ThaBigFundamental21]

NO, NO, and NO! Please stop it with the Shaquille O'Neal posts. There is a reason he is not signed yet. He is not good anymore. He is old, fat, and slow. Yet he is ego is as big as ever. The Spurs have always been a well coached, play as a team, and play D sort of team. Shaq isn't a team player, never has been, never will be. Besides, he can hardly move on the court anymore, he sits under the hoop and fouls more than anything. I don't want him in San Antonio, and I don't think Pop wants him either.

[tmtcsc]

One guy's feet are in cement, the other's is in quick sand at this point. Bad idea.

Tim's still flexible to get rebounds that DON'T just bounce to him but Shaq pretty much needs them to land in his hands.


I hate to say this, (Really hate to say this) but Tim is really a shadow of his older self and it seemed like it happened over night. 2 seasons ago he suited up for shoot around and had NO strength in his knee. He couldn't play that game. Up to that point he looked fine. Ever since, he's been good, not great. His game completely digressed last year. His defense was awful and his FT's got even worse.

This team cannot be built around him anymore. The best power forward who ever played the game is now human and perhaps not the best player on our own team.

[Bender]

Good God! Not again.
:lol
yeah wtf is with the daily shaq threads? Jesus!

Kori should close them immediately, in fact she should make it a ST rule - no Shaq to the Spurs threads.

[ceperez]

if hes coming off the bench then he wouldnt be defending alot of pick and rolls, i think if we got him we can get our best pick and roll defender and shaq out there to slam bodies on the ground, we need some muscle to keep up with the massives in this league

slam bodies... good.

[ceperez]

I hate to say this, (Really hate to say this) but Tim is really a shadow of his older self and it seemed like it happened over night. 2 seasons ago he suited up for shoot around and had NO strength in his knee. He couldn't play that game. Up to that point he looked fine. Ever since, he's been good, not great. His game completely digressed last year. His defense was awful and his FT's got even worse.

This team cannot be built around him anymore. The best power forward who ever played the game is now human and perhaps not the best player on our own team.

so you give up on achampionship in the next two years?

[Spursmania]

Again?

Fat Shaq is not coming to the Spurs unless he can take a pay cut and curb his ego which we know he can't.

[My Fault]

Another Shaq thread