Ticket760 reporting Splitter has reached an agreement

[mattyc]

Great news to get him over. His record and reputation works for itself. It will undoubtedly take him some time to learn the system, but who better to go up against in practice than Tim Duncan?

Sign him up. Get him in ASAP.

[ChumpDumper]

This means that the full MLE couldn't be all for Splitter's salary, then, which would cause the raises to be slightly smaller?

Also makes it less likely that there will be any of the MLE left once Splitter signs.You're getting ahead of yourself here.

First we need to find out what Splitter's deal is for.

There is more than one way for Splitter to pay a buyout if it comes to that.

[smrattler]

Isn't that three ways?

No, one way.

Exceling in all three parts is the ONE way that we can become contenders.

[Seventyniner]

You're getting ahead of yourself here.

First we need to find out what Splitter's deal is for.

There is more than one way for Splitter to pay a buyout if it comes to that.

I see your point. Thanks for the info!

[Dro210]

Homey if you talk to anyone without a Spurs-bias (and we all have spurs bias to one extent or another) one of the biggest knocks on our team was our blind faith to playing Matt Bonner. He goes and indisputably proves he is a playoff choker and we are about to re-sign him for four fucking years and more money than he already made.

It's the biggest contract abortion of a FO move by this team I've seen since I've been following this team very closely.

If we give him that kinda money, it prob means we get rid of people that actually contribute like Dice, someone I would not mind see retiring as a Spur. You, me, everyone on this board except fuckin TPark KNOWS that we have no chance at accomplishing anything of note with Matt Bonner earning minutes as the big man stretching the floor.

No. Chance. You know its true.

So sad. So true.

[Budkin]

Damn haven't checked ST all day. Great news!!!

[lefty]

YES



It was aobut fucking time








Too bad Lebron and CB4 joined Miami :pctoss

[Spurs Brazil]

Uh, I thought Splitter didn't have a buyout this year if he went to an NBA team. At most, I thought it was a small set amount. WTF?

See, this is why you don't celebrate Splitter coming until the ink is dry :pctoss

Don't worry that's just stupid McDonald trying to get a excuse because EN got fucked again


JMcDonald_SAEN
Contrary to reports, #spurs deal for Splitter not done. Still have to barter over Spanish Lg. buyout. Can be mere formality, but not always

[DesignatedT]

fuckin mcdonald. get this shit straight. always has somethin fuckin bad to say

[lefty]

Send him to Austin for 5 years


Then he will be old enough to crack Pop's rotation

[Spurs Brazil]

Splitter has a $1M buyout for the nba this summer. If he doesn't use it, Tau has an option to extend his contract until 2012.
Splitter has said that he wants to play in nba so he will likely come in NBA next year.
Euro's contracts aren't set in stone at all. You can imagine Tau and Splitter re-working on his contract to keep him next year with a quite big salary and allow him to leave Tau for the nba in 2009 for $500K.

After the endless Scola's buyout story, I won't consider Splitter as a sure thing as long as he ahsn't signed his contract with Spurs.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2351285&postcount=4

[TDMVPDPOY]

splitter will make up for the 500k he be out of his pocket, if the spurs make the playoffs and play alot of games....put him on them HEB ads, sign a shoe deal...fkn done...

send a big fuck you letter to tau or whatever his former employer is..

[benefactor]

The buyout seems like a non-issue.

[ElNono]

Are we getting a 1 hour "Welcome Tiago" special on KENS5 monday?

[timtonymanu]

Wont celebrate till I see it. But it sort of makes up for Boner coming back.

[EricB]

Are we getting a 1 hour "Welcome Tiago" special on KENS5 monday?


Tiago is gonna emerge with his jersey on to conjunto and announce in spanish "history will be made "

[Anonymous Cowherd]

todos nós somos testemunhas.

[Bruno]

I guess that a part of Splitter's contract will be paid at the signing of the contract. The max allowed by the CBA for this signing bonus is 20% of the contract. When you add the additional $500K Spurs can give for the buyout, Splitter should have no problem to buy out his contract. He won't even need some kind of loans to do so.

[Obstructed_View]

Does Splitter speak Spanish?

[Anonymous Cowherd]

yes, he does.

[Harry Callahan]

The Express News article also said Splitter's salary was with Caja was $1.76MM. I thought that salary number was a lot higher and that was why he did not come over in 2008.

The number I read about in the past for him was $4MM (tax free).

[Darkwaters]

Any word on what amount of money we're talking about on this contract? Still pushing for the full MLE?

[ffcommish]

Credibility lost.

Nice fail job there sparky.

Credibility lost?

Where is your credibility? All I've see you do is toe the company line since that epic playoff gaffe.

Since you're not the only one to bag on Jeff Van Gundy, I want to know what makes JV so bad?

Popovich has 4 rings but he's F'ing crazy and stubborn as a senior citizens home full of mules.

If you actually stop and think about Jeff Van Gundy or another legitimate candidate, how could he possibly be any worse than a guy who:

- Refused to take out George Hill while Steve Nash set the tone to the PHX series by scoring uncontested layups at will
- Stood by Michael Finley and gave him real PT
- Played Roger """Money""" Mason at point guard and continued to play him despite Mason shooting below 30%
- Starts Matt Bonner in the NBA. How do you trot out Matt Bonner (AT CENTER) and expect to win an NBA title?
- Refuses to play young talent because they might make a mistake. Instead, goes with the same tired old horses and loses.
- Benched and then got rid of Malik Rose for a reason no one is really sure of to this day

I know everyone here is used to Pop at the helm, but it's come to the point where it's time for a change. Pop is fcking nuts and has the pedigree to prove it. I'm sure some of you could triple my list of examples.

Listening to Van Gundy call NBA games, at least I know he would use some common sense. For example, Matt Bonner is getting abused, maybe I ought to sub for him.

Popovich had a good run, but now his powerful control of the Spurs operation is hurting the Spurs more than it's helping.

He just signed off on Matt Bonner getting a 4 year deal. That's insane.

Look at the evidence piling up - it's time to stop suggesting a new coach is crazy and start thinking it's crazy not to consider other possibilities (whether JVG or someone else).

[Warlord23]

^^ Way to go ffcommish. Let TPark have it. Nail his fat ass to the tree of woe.

[Spurs Brazil]

I think it'll take a while to Splitter press conference happen. He's in honeymoon and Brazilian NT starts their preparation to the FIBA World Championship on July 19th so I think he'll be in San Antonio only after the tournament

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

Credibility lost.

Nice fail job there sparky.

Shouldn't you stay out of this thread and start some more of your own citing information from unnamed sources where you end up being wrong? No wonder 90% of this board can't stand your stupid ass

[Agloco]

Does Splitter speak Spanish?


yes, he does.

Tiago Splitter Beims (born January 1, 1985, in Joinville, Santa Catarina) is a Brazilian professional basketball player who also holds Spanish citizenship. Along with his native language Portuguese, he also speaks English and Spanish fluently. Splitter is a center and is listed by the NBA as 6 ft 11 in (2.11 m).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiago_Splitter

The "official" source for everything internetz.....

[Tito_Trinidad]

will be here next year. via Mike Taylor and STSA

http://www.lolgifs.com/picture.php?id=1136&hash=91453ca73f62

[ChuckD]

JVG????????

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

If you hate Pop, you'll LOATHE JVG. His offense makes Pop's look like Phoenix. It's like watching paint dry.

[Knoxxx]

Credibility lost?

Where is your credibility? All I've see you do is toe the company line since that epic playoff gaffe.

Since you're not the only one to bag on Jeff Van Gundy, I want to know what makes JV so bad?

Popovich has 4 rings but he's F'ing crazy and stubborn as a senior citizens home full of mules.

If you actually stop and think about Jeff Van Gundy or another legitimate candidate, how could he possibly be any worse than a guy who:

- Refused to take out George Hill while Steve Nash set the tone to the PHX series by scoring uncontested layups at will
- Stood by Michael Finley and gave him real PT
- Played Roger """Money""" Mason at point guard and continued to play him despite Mason shooting below 30%
- Starts Matt Bonner in the NBA. How do you trot out Matt Bonner (AT CENTER) and expect to win an NBA title?
- Refuses to play young talent because they might make a mistake. Instead, goes with the same tired old horses and loses.
- Benched and then got rid of Malik Rose for a reason no one is really sure of to this day

I know everyone here is used to Pop at the helm, but it's come to the point where it's time for a change. Pop is fcking nuts and has the pedigree to prove it. I'm sure some of you could triple my list of examples.

Listening to Van Gundy call NBA games, at least I know he would use some common sense. For example, Matt Bonner is getting abused, maybe I ought to sub for him.

Popovich had a good run, but now his powerful control of the Spurs operation is hurting the Spurs more than it's helping.

He just signed off on Matt Bonner getting a 4 year deal. That's insane.

Look at the evidence piling up - it's time to stop suggesting a new coach is crazy and start thinking it's crazy not to consider other possibilities (whether JVG or someone else).

Some valid points about Pop, not that I was tracking the whole discussion. He looks a lot smarter when the Big 3 are beasting and role players are on fire from 3. His inability to get productivity out of RJ was a huge issue from us last year, and I think Blair needed more floor time. I don't remember anything about a 'back injury' for RJ last year, where did that come from?

[Darkwaters]

JVG?

Oh shit, I read "JVD" instead. Jugular venous distension.

I thought that fucker was about to die!

[Indazone]

Congrats on Splitter that one move will really help the Spurs. As for JVG? Fail!

[angelbelow]

Cant wait until monday..

[MarkCuban]

Not overpaying for quality players? Are you allowed to do that?

:elephant

[angelbelow]

I guess that a part of Splitter's contract will be paid at the signing of the contract. The max allowed by the CBA for this signing bonus is 20% of the contract. When you add the additional $500K Spurs can give for the buyout, Splitter should have no problem to buy out his contract. He won't even need some kind of loans to do so.

Nice, thanks for the analysis.

[completely deck]

Credibility lost?

Where is your credibility? All I've see you do is toe the company line since that epic playoff gaffe.

Since you're not the only one to bag on Jeff Van Gundy, I want to know what makes JV so bad?

Popovich has 4 rings but he's F'ing crazy and stubborn as a senior citizens home full of mules.

If you actually stop and think about Jeff Van Gundy or another legitimate candidate, how could he possibly be any worse than a guy who:

- Refused to take out George Hill while Steve Nash set the tone to the PHX series by scoring uncontested layups at will
- Stood by Michael Finley and gave him real PT
- Played Roger """Money""" Mason at point guard and continued to play him despite Mason shooting below 30%
- Starts Matt Bonner in the NBA. How do you trot out Matt Bonner (AT CENTER) and expect to win an NBA title?
- Refuses to play young talent because they might make a mistake. Instead, goes with the same tired old horses and loses.
- Benched and then got rid of Malik Rose for a reason no one is really sure of to this day

I know everyone here is used to Pop at the helm, but it's come to the point where it's time for a change. Pop is fcking nuts and has the pedigree to prove it. I'm sure some of you could triple my list of examples.

Listening to Van Gundy call NBA games, at least I know he would use some common sense. For example, Matt Bonner is getting abused, maybe I ought to sub for him.

Popovich had a good run, but now his powerful control of the Spurs operation is hurting the Spurs more than it's helping.

He just signed off on Matt Bonner getting a 4 year deal. That's insane.

Look at the evidence piling up - it's time to stop suggesting a new coach is crazy and start thinking it's crazy not to consider other possibilities (whether JVG or someone else).

you should have called him "popazit" and you would have gotten instant eCreds from half of SpursTalk.

[lefty]

9gvE5p2c5yA

[ThePop]

How is Tiago's English?

[CaptainLate]

...Monday??? So we have to wait the whole damn weekend until we see it for certain? Damn!

You'll be the one damned...to Hell... for using the Lord's Name in vain. :bang

[dbestpro]

How is Tiago's English?

He has a nice back spin on the ball.

[rayray2k8]

Some of ya'll seriously need to get out more.. Jesus Christ. :rolleyes

[AFBlue]

How is Tiago's English?


He has a nice back spin on the ball.

:lol

[Capt Bringdown]

Nice news, but signing Bonner for an extension AND a raise?

Big time failure.

[Bruno]

http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/v/20100711/deportes/baskonia/punto-para-despedida-20100711.html

The local Vittoria newspaper said that Splitter's starting salary will be between $4.5M and $5M.

[Vic Petro]

http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/v/20100711/deportes/baskonia/punto-para-despedida-20100711.html

The local Vittoria newspaper said that Splitter's starting salary will be between $4.5M and $5M.

Splitter + Richards = MLE, I presume.

[angelbelow]

http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/v/20100711/deportes/baskonia/punto-para-despedida-20100711.html

The local Vittoria newspaper said that Splitter's starting salary will be between $4.5M and $5M.

That's pretty good. I was hoping he would get what Scola got (3 years 9 million I think) but thats too unrealistic nowadays so I was expecting Splitter for the full MLE. Great to see that its not for the full.. theres not much room to wiggle but ill take it.

[Ice009]

If Splitter signed for 4.5 or 5 million then I'd say thanks to him. He would have done us a favor by doing that.

[Kindergarten Cop]

http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/v/20100711/deportes/baskonia/punto-para-despedida-20100711.html

The local Vittoria newspaper said that Splitter's starting salary will be between $4.5M and $5M.


That's pretty good. I was hoping he would get what Scola got (3 years 9 million I think) but thats too unrealistic nowadays so I was expecting Splitter for the full MLE. Great to see that its not for the full.. theres not much room to wiggle but ill take it.


If Splitter signed for 4.5 or 5 million then I'd say thanks to him. He would have done us a favor by doing that.

I'm hoping that it's for the full 5 years, but realistically it's for 3.

[angelbelow]

I'm hoping that it's for the full 5 years, but realistically it's for 3.

Agreed.. would be nice to lock him up but much much better for him if its only 3.

[Blackjack]

http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/v/20100711/deportes/baskonia/punto-para-despedida-20100711.html

The local Vittoria newspaper said that Splitter's starting salary will be between $4.5M and $5M.

Win-win. :tu

[tuncaboylu]

Splitter + Richards = MLE, I presume.

Which Richards? Our second round draft pick Richards won't eat from MLE i guess.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Which Richards? Our second round draft pick Richards won't eat from MLE i guess.

They are referring to Ryan Richards, our second round pick in this year's draft. The Spurs apparently are hoping to save some of the MLE to sign him and if the reports are correct that Splitter is coming over for less than the $5.8M MLE than the remaining amount can be used to pay for Richards.

[timvp]

http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/v/20100711/deportes/baskonia/punto-para-despedida-20100711.html

The local Vittoria newspaper said that Splitter's starting salary will be between $4.5M and $5M.

Good find. Do I also read that he may sign a three-year contract with the final year not guaranteed? (That doesn't sound right so my Spanish is probably wrong.)

Looking at the market, something like three years and $15 million for Splitter would be fair for both sides.

[tuncaboylu]

They are referring to Ryan Richards, our second round pick in this year's draft. The Spurs apparently are hoping to save some of the MLE to sign him and if the reports are correct that Splitter is coming over for less than the $5.8M MLE than the remaining amount can be used to pay for Richards.


As far as I know, the teams can sign with their draft picks without touching their MLE? Am I wrong?

[Darkwaters]

As far as I know, the teams can sign with their draft picks without touching their MLE? Am I wrong?

Usually that is the case. A team can always sign their 1st round selections without incident. Also, a team can always sign a player to a minimum contract (or veteran minimum) regardless of their cap situation. Second round picks are unique in that all a team is obligated to give them is a non-veteran minimum contract. However, a team is able to sign them for more if they choose. However, to do this the team must either be under the cap or utilize an exception to ink the deal.

The most common type of situation where a 2nd rounder gets more than a minimum contract are foreigners who stay overseas and then sign later for significant contracts (ie, Manu). However, it does happen occasionally with domestics as well (Blair).

[Bruno]

As far as I know, the teams can sign with their draft picks without touching their MLE? Am I wrong?

You can sign a second round pick to a minimum contract but the max length is 2 years.

Ryan Richards was arguably the less NBA ready player of the whole draft. Only Favors was younger and Richards has played at a very low level in Europe. The idea with using a part of the MLE would be to lock to a 3 or 4 years contract (with only 1 or 2 years guaranteed). It's about having a long term project locked with a long term contract.

Splitter's first year of contract needs to be $5.3M or lower if Spurs want to have enough left on their MLE to sign Richards.

[will_spurs]

Good find. Do I also read that he may sign a three-year contract with the final year not guaranteed? (That doesn't sound right so my Spanish is probably wrong.)

The article linked seems ready for ESPN: there's not one bit of information in it :lol

What they say is:
- according to Texas news sources: 5 years deal
- according to "other" (totally unknown) sources, what they call a "more realistic" possibility: 3 years with only the first 2 guaranteed
- according to their own sources (whoever that might be), the contract would be in the range of $4.5-5 million.

In the same article they claim "San Antonio Express" is a "newspaper of reference".

I'd approach this Spanish article with a huge grain of salt.

[tuncaboylu]

You can sign a second round pick to a minimum contract but the max length is 2 years.

Ryan Richards was arguably the less NBA ready player of the whole draft. Only Favors was younger and Richards has played at a very low level in Europe. The idea with using a part of the MLE would be to lock to a 3 or 4 years contract (with only 1 or 2 years guaranteed). It's about having a long term project locked with a long term contract.

Splitter's first year of contract needs to be $5.3M or lower if Spurs want to have enough left on their MLE to sign Richards.

But if we're not bringing Ryan this year, we shouldn't sign him at the moment. Am I right?

Is Ryan coming NBA to play in Toros this year, or will he continue to play in Gran Canaria again?

[Bruno]

But if we're not bringing Ryan this year, we shouldn't sign him at the moment. Am I right?

Is Ryan coming NBA to play in Toros this year, or will he continue to play in Gran Canaria again?

Richards will likely be signed this summer. He doesn't want to be stashed in Europe and Spurs are said to be fine with that. Playing with Toros will help way more his development than staying in Europe.

[DrSteffo]

Bruno, do you agree Richards is 2-3 years from contributing in the nba? I respect your opinion, that's why I'm asking.

[Bruno]

Bruno, do you agree Richards is 2-3 years from contributing in the nba? I respect your opinion, that's why I'm asking.

Richards is a very long term project. Barring a miracle, he will spend his whole first year in Austin.

[DrSteffo]

Richards is a very long term project. Barring a miracle, he will spend his whole first year in Austin.

Yeah Im even less optimistic but hopefully our FO is right about Richards. He seems like a really nice guy and I hope for him to learn and improve. Anyways second round picks are just bonuses. I think signing Splitter is 20 times more important.

[Gino2882]

Yeah Im even less optimistic but hopefully our FO is right about Richards. He seems like a really nice guy and I hope for him to learn and improve. Anyways second round picks are just bonuses. I think signing Splitter is 20 times more important.

Veteran teams such as the Spurs can afford to gamble on these 2nd round picks. By taking a player such as Richards or the Lakers by taking Ebanks and Carracter they are gambling that these players down the road turn into a productive player. They know they will not be putting these players in a position to contribute for a year or two.