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Yonivore
10-28-2010, 09:53 PM
...Notre Dame $120 million dollars!
Gifts to Notre Dame plunged $120M during year of Obama’s appearance (http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=8036)
He may actually reach George W. Bush's approval rating lows in record time. It took nearly 8 years of a relentless liberal machine to bring W's down. Obama is pretty much doing this all on his own. Quite an achievement.
Nbadan
10-28-2010, 09:58 PM
Last I checked Obama's approval rating was in the 50's...you know, like W's IQ...
Yonivore
10-28-2010, 10:10 PM
Last I checked Obama's approval rating was in the 50's...you know, like W's IQ...
Harris Interactive has him at 37%
President Obama Heads into Midterms at Lowest Approval Rating of Presidency (http://www.harrisinteractive.com/Hi_assets/TopHitPageNews.html)
ChumpDumper
10-28-2010, 10:26 PM
The decline in donations largely coincided with the late-2000s recession, which officially began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009. :lol
Yonivore is a liar.
...Notre Dame $120 million dollars!
Gifts to Notre Dame plunged $120M during year of Obama’s appearance (http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=8036)
PWNED by your own link, bitch. :lmao
Yonivore
10-28-2010, 10:37 PM
PWNED by your own link, bitch. :lmao
I'd like to see if other similar universities saw giving cut in half during the same time period.
The American Life League credits his speech and honorary degree...
NOTRE DAME’S DONATIONS PLUNGE [$120 MILLION] IN WAKE OF ‘09 OBAMA SPEECH (http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17673&posts=1#M45275)
Nbadan
10-28-2010, 10:40 PM
54% in a recent Newsweek poll that includes cell phones...
http://nw-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/pdf/1006-Ftop.pdf
ChumpDumper
10-28-2010, 10:40 PM
I'd like to see if other similar universities saw giving cut in half during the same time period.I'm sure you'll get right on that.
The American Life League credits his speech and honorary degree...
NOTRE DAME’S DONATIONS PLUNGE [$120 MILLION] IN WAKE OF ‘09 OBAMA SPEECH (http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17673&posts=1#M45275):lmao
I'm sure you consider that an unbiased news source.
Dumbass.
Yonivore
10-28-2010, 10:52 PM
54% in a recent Newsweek poll that includes cell phones...
http://nw-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/pdf/1006-Ftop.pdf
I'll take Harris over Newsweek.
Yonivore
10-28-2010, 10:55 PM
PWNED by your own link, bitch. :lmao
Private Giving to Colleges Dropped Sharply in 2009 (http://chronicle.com/article/Private-Giving-to-Colleges/63879/)
With a battered economy and volatile financial markets taking their tolls on donors' pocketbooks, private giving to American colleges dropped sharply in 2009, according to findings of the annual Voluntary Support of Education survey, which were released on Wednesday. Donations were down $3.75-billion from the previous year—a decline of 11.9 percent, the steepest in the survey's 50-year history.
Notre Dame's 50% cut in donations is a bit steeper than the average of 11.9%, wouldn't you say?
Maybe it wasn't just the economy.
Private Giving to Colleges Dropped Sharply in 2009 (http://chronicle.com/article/Private-Giving-to-Colleges/63879/)
Notre Dame's 50% cut in donations is a bit steeper than the average of 11.9%, wouldn't you say?
Maybe it wasn't just the economy.
There are obviously more variables to be considered. Implying Obama cost Notre Dame $120M is just ludicrous. Besides, it's not like he forced himself there. He was invited and accepted. Blame Notre Dame.
Yonivore
10-28-2010, 11:54 PM
There are obviously more variables to be considered. Implying Obama cost Notre Dame $120M is just ludicrous. Besides, it's not like he forced himself there. He was invited and accepted. Blame Notre Dame.
Obviously, many of their donors did.
Oh, and here's a math lesson for you. $347M to $226M is not a 50% drop, try less than 35%.
DJ Mbenga
10-29-2010, 12:01 AM
lol so much ownage this thread.
Yonivore
10-29-2010, 12:05 AM
Oh, and here's a math lesson for you. $347M to $226M is not a 50% drop, try less than 35%.
Read the story.
During the July 2008 - June 2009 fiscal year, gifts to the university totaled $226,689,374, including $60,133,035 in government grants. During the July 2007 - June 2008 fiscal year, in contrast, gifts totaled $347,155,514, including $62,241,121 in government grants. Thus most of the decline in contributions consisted in a decline in private donations rather than a drop in government funding.
Remove the static grant and do the math, it's an over 41% reduction in private donations.
Yonivore
10-29-2010, 12:09 AM
lol so much ownage this thread.
You said it.
ChumpDumper
10-29-2010, 03:13 AM
You said it.Yes, Yoni pwned himself by proving he can't do math.
Stringer_Bell
10-29-2010, 03:33 AM
He may actually reach George W. Bush's approval rating lows in record time. It took nearly 8 years of a relentless liberal machine to bring W's down. Obama is pretty much doing this all on his own. Quite an achievement.
Considering Obama and his war chest aren't on TV all the time telling us about the bloodthirsty killers waiting to attack us for how we live, it doesn't surprise me the Sheeple focus all their fears on Obama rather than the boogeymen in the middle east. It took 8 years of the truth coming to light that hurt W's legacy, not some liberal smear machine.
TDMVPDPOY
10-29-2010, 04:06 AM
lol these donations are load of horse shit, when was the last time u hear universities passing on savings to students on fees? or how every year it seems like fees are increasing faster then CPI.....
fkn education system is the biggest money pyramid scheme to the tax payers...
boutons_deux
10-29-2010, 05:08 AM
charitable giving is DOWN EVERYWHERE, has been for 2-3 years, and will continue to be down.
The only sector with excess cash is the finance sector, and they're greedy bastards.
As always, Yoni/right-wing "attacks" are always bad-faith distortions, slander, lies, not good-faith honest, constructive criticisms.
MannyIsGod
10-29-2010, 11:45 AM
What I learned in this thread - 41% = 50%
RandomGuy
10-29-2010, 12:05 PM
"private giving to American colleges dropped sharply in 2009..."
Notre Dame's 50% cut in donations is a bit steeper than the average of 11.9%, wouldn't you say?
I would not say, because not only can I do math, I can read and I have a calandar.
During the July 2008 - June 2009 fiscal year
http://blog.feefifoto.com/images/2008/03/28/charly1.jpg
Sorry, Charlie. (at the risk of dating my old ass)
Chalk up more mathfail. Or maybe readingfail. or calandarfail. Please select which fail you think that was.
Spurminator
10-29-2010, 12:09 PM
Not surprising... Muslims hate Catholics, especially in Kenya.
RandomGuy
10-29-2010, 12:09 PM
To really, truly compare the % drops you would have to get either the same fiscal year, or get month to month data.
You are highly unlikely to find either, although you could probably massage the 2007-2009 annual data and make some reasonable assumptions to sort of get close, but even then it would be something of a tenous kluge.
RandomGuy
10-29-2010, 12:27 PM
Dow Jones Industrial Average, July 1, 2008:
11,288.53
Dow Jones Industrial Average, June 30, 2009:
8,447.00
Low between those two dates, (weekly adj close):
6,626.94 Week of Mar 2, 2009
High between those two dates, (weekly adj close)
11,734.32 Week of Aug4 , 2008
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EDJI&a=06&b=1&c=2008&d=05&e=30&f=2009&g=w
Total decline of DJIA over that period from beginng of period to end:
-26%
Total difference from high to low during that period:
-44%
That was pretty much THE height of the financial crisis.
Given that the majority of catholics in this country vote Democratic, is it more probable that it was the financial crisis or Obama's visit?
I will never donate to Notre Dame, you can take that to the bank.
Me too!
Yonivore
10-29-2010, 05:27 PM
What I learned in this thread - 41% = 50%
What you should have learned is 41% isn't 11.9%...it is, however, closer to 50%. My first calculation was done in my head using figures in the hundreds of millions; I came pretty close.
You're an idiot Manny. Own it, accept it, get a care taker.
ChumpDumper
10-29-2010, 05:29 PM
Where are all those other stats from similar schools for the same time period that you were so eager to know, yoni?
RandomGuy
11-01-2010, 12:46 PM
What you should have learned is 41% isn't 11.9%...it is, however, closer to 50%. My first calculation was done in my head using figures in the hundreds of millions; I came pretty close.
You're an idiot Manny. Own it, accept it, get a care taker.
Says the man who can't answer fair critical thinking questions.
Genius or not, he is not a liar.
RandomGuy
11-06-2010, 01:53 PM
"private giving to American colleges dropped sharply in 2009..."
Notre Dame's 50% cut in donations is a bit steeper than the average of 11.9%, wouldn't you say?
I would not say, because not only can I do math, I can read and I have a calandar.
During the July 2008 - June 2009 fiscal year
http://blog.feefifoto.com/images/2008/03/28/charly1.jpg
Sorry, Charlie. (at the risk of dating my old ass)
Chalk up more mathfail. Or maybe readingfail. or calandarfail. Please select which fail you think that was.
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