Spurs record when Blair gets 20+ minutes. Season 2.

[Fabbs]

Building from his rookie season, when the Spurs went 22-9 with Grizzly getting 20+
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143306&highlight=Blair+minutes

2010-11 so far:
11-1

After banging out 15/13 vs Golden State.
To be sure, early in the season the Blairdog was not doing what we expected and hoped for. His offense looked funky to say the least, and his perimiter D vs faster Forwards was troubling. But we knew we could always depend on the Blairdogs hustle and rebounding. Staples.
Matchup strategies will be a must from Popovich whom this year has shown cluefullness.

Last 5 games shooting is picking up (including all minutes whether 20 min or not).
60% FGs (21-36)
15.5 Rebounds per 48 minutes for the season, still a most Beastly 9th in the entire NBA.

So lets hear it for continued Blair improvement and Spurs Championship pursuit 2011 playoffs!!

Note for you PopApologists. Notice like last seasons thread nowhere have i said Blair is the sole reason nor a main reason the Spurs at 11-1 in games he has done 20+. As stated last season, Blair is a HUGE improvement over the pussified team we had become with FinleyPopBonners meneage-a-twat and Dick Jeffersons season 1. Lots of reasons we are better this year, and Grizzley Season 2 is one of them. Perhaps you'd be better served trolling over to a PollyAnna thread.

[itzsoweezee]

I'm a big Blair fan. He gets way too much undeserved hate around here.

[Sigz]

I wish he was taller.

That's all I have to say about that.


http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/100greatestcharacters/photos/20.jpg

[EduRiker]

Im not a Blair hater by any means, but that really does not look THAT impressive considering we're 18-3 total.

[8FOR!3]

I don't hate on Blair, I just wish the guy was 5 inches taller. He'd be a perennial All-Star.

[Bender]

15.5 rebounds per minute?

[Fabbs]

15.5 rebounds per minute?

:lol well maybe one day.
15.5 per 48.
He's not Kevin Love but then what 2nd year or rookie is?

[Cessation]

blair only has does well against weak frontlines so far
hes had a total of 4 good games this year

though latelly he has been playing better
lets hope he keeps trying

[ducks]

the third time he faced west from the hornets
blair owned him

this is the first year he is facing the starters

[Cessation]

the third time he faced west from the hornets
blair owned him

this is the first year he is facing the starters

west 13 5 3 with 1 to
blair 10 8 0 with 3 to

this is west with the flu
blair hardly owning

[LeCrab]

west 13 5 3 with 1 to
blair 10 8 0 with 3 to

this is west with the flu
blair hardly owning
West got most of those numbers in the 4th........

[Cessation]

West got most of those numbers in the 4th........

west didnt play in the fourth, while blair played all of it, lol

[ElNono]

I thought the criticism was warranted when the season started. But the last couple of games he has really picked it up, and that's what we need from Dejuan. Hopefully he can keep it going against Atlanta.

[Nathan89]

This statistic doesn't reflect the greatness of Blair just the confidence in Pop that the team can still win with Blair on the court for 20+ minutes.

[Fabbs]

blair only has does well against weak frontlines so far
hes had a total of 4 good games this year

though latelly he has been playing better
lets hope he keeps trying
The Jazz frontline is pretty good and he more then held his own. Outdid Milsap really. But agree Blair has to do it consistently vs the better frontlines to maintain 20 min a game and/or contribute to an entire playoffs run successfully.

[jjktkk]

I thought the criticism was warranted when the season started. But the last couple of games he has really picked it up, and that's what we need from Dejuan. Hopefully he can keep it going against Atlanta.

Atlanta will be a good test for Blair.

[EricB]

i thought the criticism was warranted when the season started. But the last couple of games he has really picked it up, and that's what we need from dejuan. Hopefully he can keep it going against atlanta.

+1

[Cessation]

The Jazz frontline is pretty good and he more then held his own. Outdid Milsap really. But agree Blair has to do it consistently vs the better frontlines to maintain 20 min a game and/or contribute to an entire playoffs run successfully.

Jazz frontline isnt that great. Jeferson at 6-10 isnt known for his defence, and millsap is undersized at 6-8. When okur comes back theyre still nothing special, whos d is weak, and is a 6-11 three point shooter.

If only all nba teams starting pfs were 6-8, blair would be an allstar.

At start of last season, he was sucking it up bad, but i agree, last 5 gamers or so, hes gotten much better. More active, better passing, less dumb fouls and turnovers.

[justinandimcool]

Blair has impressed at times, and depressed against the likes of NOLA, Minny, and LAC, but uh...this statistic means nothing because we have only lost 3 games. Of course his record will be somewhat impressive :lol

[UnWantedTheory]

I thought the criticism was warranted when the season started. But the last couple of games he has really picked it up, and that's what we need from Dejuan. Hopefully he can keep it going against Atlanta.

[Vito Corleone]

All i really care about is how Blair does against 3 teams. Lakers, Mavs, and Celtics. No one else really matters, we are better than anyone else and Blair will be fine against all those other teams.

If Blair can hold his own against those 3 teams we will be in great position.

[buttsR4rebounding]

West got most of those numbers in the 4th........


west didnt play in the fourth, while blair played all of it, lol

So what's your point?

[doldrums]

And less than 20 minutes 7-2. not bad either

[urunobili]

Horford will eat his lunch...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Building from his rookie season, when the Spurs went 22-9 with Grizzly getting 20+
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143306&highlight=Blair+minutes

2010-11 so far:
11-1

After banging out 15/13 vs Golden State.
To be sure, early in the season the Blairdog was not doing what we expected and hoped for. His offense looked funky to say the least, and his perimiter D vs faster Forwards was troubling. But we knew we could always depend on the Blairdogs hustle and rebounding. Staples.
Matchup strategies will be a must from Popovich whom this year has shown cluefullness.

Last 5 games shooting is picking up (including all minutes whether 20 min or not).
60% FGs (21-36)
15.5 Rebounds per 48 minutes for the season, still a most Beastly 9th in the entire NBA.

So lets hear it for continued Blair improvement and Spurs Championship pursuit 2011 playoffs!!

Note for you PopApologists. Notice like last seasons thread nowhere have i said Blair is the sole reason nor a main reason the Spurs at 11-1 in games he has done 20+. As stated last season, Blair is a HUGE improvement over the pussified team we had become with FinleyPopBonners meneage-a-twat and Dick Jeffersons season 1. Lots of reasons we are better this year, and Grizzley Season 2 is one of them. Perhaps you'd be better served trolling over to a PollyAnna thread.

Well said in all respects, sir - I concur. :toast

To start the season Grizzly was playing in a different, slimmed down body and obviously thinking way too much rather than playing on instinct - maybe trying to cut down on his foul rate? Anyway, he's adjusting quickly to his new game. Put the early season down to growing pains.

[Dice]

I'm not anti-Blair or anything but this season these numbers don't mean much. So far this season Blair has been playing clean-up. If we have the game in the bag, he's in. Otherwise it's Bonner or McDyess getting the minutes and Blair sits. So it that respect, Blair getting more of his minutes in our blowout games-whether he had anything to do with the blowout or not.

[ChuckD]

And less than 20 minutes 7-2. not bad either

Actually, since he played 26 last night, it's still 6-2 when less than 20 and 12-1 when over that mark.

6-2 .750
12-1 .923

Even though they are both winning marks, 12-1 is CLEARLY a much better percentage.

[TJastal]

Actually, since he played 26 last night, it's still 6-2 when less than 20 and 12-1 when over that mark.

6-2 .750
12-1 .923

Even though they are both winning marks, 12-1 is CLEARLY a much better percentage.

I hope this means Blair is working his way to securing a regular rotational spot on the team and (hopefully) Splitter's gradually increasing minutes will be taken from the ginger.

[jjktkk]

I hope this means Blair is working his way to securing a regular rotational spot on the team and (hopefully) Splitter's gradually increasing minutes will be taken from the ginger.

It must be killing you that the Spurs are winning, despite Bonner getting steady minutes.

[YODA]

Im havent kept stats on this, but does anybody else notice Pop is using blair more with certain matchups and pulls him fast versus other matchups?? Correct me if im wrong, but isnt most of his 20+ min games versus scrub teams?

[Agloco]

15.5 Rebounds per 48 minutes for the season, still a most Beastly 9th in the entire NBA.

Despite not playing consistent minutes of late. That's very impressive.

[Agloco]

All i really care about is how Blair does against 3 teams. Lakers, Mavs, and Celtics. No one else really matters, we are better than anyone else and Blair will be fine against all those other teams.

If Blair can hold his own against those 3 teams we will be in great position.

This.

[Fabbs]

Im havent kept stats on this, but does anybody else notice Pop is using blair more with certain matchups and pulls him fast versus other matchups??
Yes and this is all good when Blair is getting worked ie vs perimeter Fs that Blair cannot handle. Has not been the case lately.


Correct me if im wrong, but isn't most of his 20+ min games versus scrub teams?
No and Yes. The Spurs have only played 7 games against current .500+ teams. So for that matter with our Lakerlike early scheduling (altho our brutal back to back away games are not at the AT&T vs the San Antonio Clippers) the entire Spurs roster has gotten most of their minutes vs scrub teams.
Here is Blair vs .500+ teams:

Opponent Min W/L
NO 3Xs 38L 7W 29W
OKC 16W
Chi 11W
Utah 28W

Ave about 21 min per game altho as you can see a mixed bag 38hi 7low.

[DMC]

There's a cause vs correlation issue here. Blair gets the minutes because the Spurs are playing teams that don't trounce them early. Would the Spurs win these games regardless? I could find stats to show how often the Spurs win when I shave the day prior, and they could be undefeated. So does that mean I am affecting the game? Of course.

[itzsoweezee]

Doubters looking stupid, as expected.

[ChuckD]

There's a cause vs correlation issue here. Blair gets the minutes because the Spurs are playing teams that don't trounce them early. Would the Spurs win these games regardless? I could find stats to show how often the Spurs win when I shave the day prior, and they could be undefeated. So does that mean I am affecting the game? Of course.

Teams don't trounce the Spurs early because they can't. DeJuan is part of that.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Building from his rookie season, when the Spurs went 22-9 with Grizzly getting 20+

Oh, and BTW, nice use of his true and proper nickname. :toast

[DMC]

Teams don't trounce the Spurs early because they can't. DeJuan is part of that.

Blair is becoming part of that. Don't act like the team's success has rested on Blair's minutes. It hasn't.

[jjktkk]

It looks like Blair is starting to find his comfort zone. Nice to see.

[ChumpDumper]

He sucked early, and now he doesn't suck.

:tu

[Fabbs]

Oh, and BTW, nice use of his true and proper nickname. :toast
Thank you sir.
And here's to your picking that nickname. :toast

[ChuckD]

teams don't trounce the spurs early because they can't. Dejuan is part of that.


blair is becoming part of that. Don't act like the team's success has rested on blair's minutes. It hasn't.

RIF. Way to make up shit I didn't say.

[Whisky Dog]

I don't get why people here wish Blair was taller. If Blair was taller he would have been a top 3 pick and burning the Spurs not putting up double doubles for them as he has lately.

Blair beasting takes the Spurs to another level and allows Splitter to come along more slowly as long as Dice and Bonner are at least serviceable.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Yes, I really enjoy watching Blair play ball. I know a lot of people hate him on here, but he's been doing really great with the boards and points recently. Blair has really helped the Spurs with certain games this season.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

correlation does not imply causation

[ploto]

Could it simply mean that Blair gets more minutes when the Spurs are leading- as in you have the cause and effect backwards?

[itzsoweezee]

correlation does not imply causation

Correlation does imply causation, but it does not equal causation.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Correlation does imply causation, but it does not equal causation.

http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/stathelp/Correlation-Causation.htm

A good day's "meh." to your fallacious statement, sir.

[itzsoweezee]

http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/stathelp/Correlation-Causation.htm

A good day's "meh." to your fallacious statement, sir.

From your own link:

"In closing, let me be a bit picky about the meaning of the word 'imply.' Today this word is used most often to mean 'to hint' or 'to suggest' rather than 'to have as a necessary part.' Accordingly, I argue that correlation does imply (hint at) causation, even when the correlation is observed in data not collected by experimental means."

Please don't be silly and tell me by "imply," you meant the use of that word in the technical, statistical sense.

[angelbelow]

10 games into the season - even though Blair was still struggling - you couldn't help but imagine what it would be like if he got his groove back. This team would be SO deep, esp, once James Anderson comes back. Well we might not have to imagine for long, Blair is playing his best basketball of the season.

[Fabbs]

12-1
13-1

vs Atl one of his best games.
26 minutes 16/9 on 7-10 shooting. Started, maintained nice D and slapped a bunch of balls away for 4 steals.

vs Portland
Not as flashy as the Atl game but still very solid. 8pts/8boards in 26 minutes.
Hit 4-6 fts which is a continued vast improvement from last seasons 54%.

[Agloco]

12-1
13-1

vs Atl one of his best games.
26 minutes 16/9 on 7-10 shooting. Started, maintained nice D and slapped a bunch of balls away for 4 steals.

vs Portland
Not as flashy as the Atl game but still very solid. 8pts/8boards in 26 minutes.
Hit 4-6 fts which is a vast improvement for him.

This is below his season average. How is that an improvement for him?

[Fabbs]

This is below his season average. How is that an improvement for him?
Thank you Sparky,
correction
"Continued vast improvement from last seasons 54%"