View Full Version : butler out for season
Phillip
01-04-2011, 03:29 PM
:cry
MavFan6488
01-04-2011, 03:31 PM
time for a stephen jackson trade.
Phillip
01-04-2011, 03:32 PM
but like ive said in another thread, if Roddy gets back soon, this could be a good chance for him to show whether or not he truly is capable of doing what we hope he can do. with butler gone, that means more shots will be available for him.
it will be interesting to see how the team steps up in his absence.
Fpoonsie
01-04-2011, 03:32 PM
That sucks. Hate to see a player go down to injury, regardless of the team he's on. Get well soon, Caron! :toast
TimmehC
01-04-2011, 03:33 PM
That sucks. Hate to see a player go down to injury, regardless of the team he's on. Get well soon, Caron! :toast
hater
01-04-2011, 03:34 PM
sucks. Gone through this when Manu was out in 08
Killakobe81
01-04-2011, 03:41 PM
It sucks. for him and for the team. It was a chance to see if they are for real ...hopefully this is the only major injury they deal with ...
bostonguy
01-04-2011, 03:45 PM
Well that fucking sucks. Mavs have to make a trade and make one very very soon. They cant stand pat. Roddy would be a boost but when is the fucker coming back? I thought he was already supposed to be back already.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 03:46 PM
At least our hearts are broken now, instead of game 6/7 of round 1.
Killakobe81
01-04-2011, 03:53 PM
If they trade, what do they give up? Roddy and Tyson? Haywood has little value and I doubt the teams that could use a big like OKC have a SF that is worth much back in return. Marion can start and they play zone most of the time anyway ...you could give Deshawn or the rookie James back up mins at the 3 when roddy comes back ...
that really sucks........
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 03:59 PM
unless you can get stephen jackson on the cheap, just don't bother making a deal. play the season out and be first round fodder, then try and reload for next season. IIRC Terry will be a good sized expiring so that could be something teams want to trade for.
Darth_Pelican
01-04-2011, 04:04 PM
Bring in Allen Iverson and Steve Francis.
JamStone
01-04-2011, 04:07 PM
I saw it mentioned in another thread by someone, but perhaps Vince Carter might be the guy. Suns might be willing to trade him for Butler's contract and DeShawn Stevenson and a pick. He might not be the ideal pick-up, but the Mavs might be able to get him without giving up Chandler and/or Roddy.
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 04:09 PM
Fuck no to Vince Carter.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:09 PM
I saw it mentioned in another thread by someone, but perhaps Vince Carter might be the guy. Suns might be willing to trade him for Butler's contract and DeShawn Stevenson and a pick. He might not be the ideal pick-up, but the Mavs might be able to get him without giving up Chandler and/or Roddy.
I'd rather have AIDS tbh.
Killakobe81
01-04-2011, 04:09 PM
I saw it mentioned in another thread by someone, but perhaps Vince Carter might be the guy. Suns might be willing to trade him for Butler's contract and DeShawn Stevenson and a pick. He might not be the ideal pick-up, but the Mavs might be able to get him without giving up Chandler and/or Roddy.
better than nothing ... but Deshawn is actually playing prety well and without him Tyson is the only "toughness" they would be left with ...
IDK i can see the Mavs wanting deshawn to bang with Kobe and Manu in the playoffs ...
Killakobe81
01-04-2011, 04:10 PM
I'd rather have AIDS tbh.
Wow VC hasnt falen off THAT bad ... LOL
sananspursfan21
01-04-2011, 04:10 PM
too bad, i want the spurs to beat them with no excuses
djohn2oo8
01-04-2011, 04:11 PM
For the love of God, we will pay you to take Martin...But again, the Mavs don't need someone else who disappears late in games
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:11 PM
SJax or (reluctantly) Iggy or just tank the season and try to pull a draft lottery miracle out of our ass like the Spurs.
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 04:12 PM
Wow VC hasnt falen off THAT bad ... LOL
Hes a jumpshooting pussy in the form of Jason Terry. When things get rough, he packs it in. Hes the exact opposite of what we need.
Get me Stephen Jackson, Iggy or Martin if you can get them for a fair price. If not, just play it out.
boutons_deux
01-04-2011, 04:16 PM
SJax is The Man in Charlotte, would even start on the No-Rings bunch?
Pistons < Spurs
01-04-2011, 04:16 PM
Tayshaun Prince.
Problem is I don't see what the Pistons would want in return. Prince and Butler are both expiring contracts, but Detroit would obviously want to get something out of it. Unless we also include Max or Bynum for Roddy ... but then trying to match salaries gets difficult.
21_Blessings
01-04-2011, 04:16 PM
This is Ghazi's fault.
Get me Stephen Jackson, Iggy or Martin if you can get them for a fair price. If not, just play it out.
Yeah, you don't want Martin.
sefant77
01-04-2011, 04:17 PM
Sucks for the Mavs and sucks for Butler, he was in his contract year. Now i guess he will get kind of MLE money and not more. He will lose a lot of money.
Pelicans78
01-04-2011, 04:19 PM
Hornets will try to sucker the Mavs into trading for Ariza. Don't do it Cubes!
Pelicans78
01-04-2011, 04:20 PM
I'll be honest. I never liked Butler that much. He's ok, but I prefer Marion at SF. I would look to acquire a shooter like Kapono.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:23 PM
tbh if Roddy ever comes back, another SF really isn't what the Mavs need. Stevenson could probably play a little backup 3 along with his 2-guard duties. They need a backup PF more than anything.
redzero
01-04-2011, 04:23 PM
I hear that Trevor Ariza guy is pretty good.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:24 PM
Mono I don't see how you want to just tank the rest of the season and "reload" next year..we're running out of "next years" we got about one more imo. Let's not pretend like Butler is this untouchable and the writings on the wall...Sjax or Iggy would be nice, paired with a fully healthy roddy.
nigga you were the one like a week ago who was all "Hell no I wouldn't trade Butler for Melo" and now you're talking like he's chopped liver. Make up your mind, trick!
ElNono
01-04-2011, 04:28 PM
Butler wasn't the piece anyways. This will force Cubes to actually find that second scorer.
The question is who?
I don't think tanking is an option when the Mavs are positioned pretty well in the standings. You don't want to waste a season of the Chandler/Dirk duo. Plus Kidd is only getting older.
Ignignokt
01-04-2011, 04:30 PM
Butler wasn't the piece anyways. This will force Cubes to actually find that second scorer.
The question is who?
I don't think tanking is an option when the Mavs are positioned pretty well in the standings. You don't want to waste a season of the Chandler/Dirk duo. Plus Kidd is only getting older.
The piece is running water and medical supplies in your former jungle country.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:31 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5798072
Butler/Roddy/Haywood for Jackson/Diop
non Mav fans, is this trade at all realistic? Would the Bobcats go for it? I'm basing this partially on Jordan wanting to rebuild/Jordan having a hard-on for former UNC guys/Jordan being dumb.
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 04:34 PM
Are you aware that Diop is out for the season?
I wouldn't do that trade.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:34 PM
although it's moot since Cuban is basically on record that he won't trade Roddy unless it's in a package to get a superstar.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:35 PM
Are you aware that Diop is out for the season?
I wouldn't do that trade.
no i didn't. doesn't matter, Mahinmi can handle backup C.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:35 PM
Why keep throwing roddy in there just for the hell of it? only way jordan gets rid of sjax is if they decide his services aren't needed on a rebuilding team and want to shed salary. then you just trade him for caron's expiring straight up + trade exceptions cash maybe a pick etc. Let's not give up roddy just for fun in a knee jerk.
Not even Jordan is that dumb. That's Isiah Thomas level stupid there.
nkdlunch
01-04-2011, 04:35 PM
sucks.
funny thing is Spurs have just what Mavs need to run next to Kidd and Dirk, Dick Jefferson.
sefant77
01-04-2011, 04:36 PM
Jax
Crash (Bobcats need to call it a season)
Prince
Iggy
Rip (do not want)
Mayo (unhappy and Grizzlies are the most stupid franchise in the NBA)
DeadlyDynasty
01-04-2011, 04:36 PM
Life goes on.
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 04:37 PM
no i didn't. doesn't matter, Mahinmi can handle backup C.
I don't think he has proven that he can tbh. I don't want that faggot Diop on the payroll for another two years anyway.
If you cut Roddy out of that trade, I might be able to take the risk on losing Haywood.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:38 PM
let's also be real Mavs fans. How much is Roddy REALLY going to be able to help. He's going to be rusty as hell and not 100% probably until next season.
tdunk21
01-04-2011, 04:39 PM
thats a huge blow to the mavs.....thats why dirk shoulda signed with the spurs for MLE......
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:39 PM
I don't think he has proven that he can tbh. I don't want that faggot Diop on the payroll for another two years anyway.
If you cut Roddy out of that trade, I might be able to take the risk on losing Haywood.
I was a Haywood believer for a while, even as sribb was pronouncing him the worst signing in the history of humanity, but Haywood is just intent on being a cunt. When they trade him, good riddance.
Phillip
01-04-2011, 04:39 PM
I'll be honest. I never liked Butler that much. He's ok, but I prefer Marion at SF. I would look to acquire a shooter like Kapono.
I like Butler, but I agree that Marion probably fits at the starting SF position better for what the Mavs need. I always thought that Butler would actually be better off the bench.
nkdlunch
01-04-2011, 04:40 PM
mavfans do not get any of your hopes up. Truth is this news just destroyed any real mav chances to even get to WCF.
Just remember those stupid spurs fans that beleived Spurs could beat the Mavs w/out Manu.(me included) Learn from that experience...
Shank
01-04-2011, 04:40 PM
When Kidd and Dirk are a couple of your main pieces, the idea of "next year" has a very short lifespan. If it's not this year for a team with Kidd at the helm, the year after looks even more bleak. They know they need to build off the early season success of this year and reload in time for a playoff run this season. They'll definitely make a move, but they may see how these other guys step up and hold pat until the All-Star break.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:41 PM
They'll definitely make a move, but they may see how these other guys step up and hold pat until the All-Star break.
You mean all those years of seeing the other guys, um, never step up isn't entering their minds?
Shank
01-04-2011, 04:42 PM
mavfans do not get any of your hopes up. Truth is this news just destroyed any real mav chances to even get to WCF.
Just remember those stupid spurs fans that beleived Spurs could beat the Mavs w/out Manu.(me included) Learn from that experience...
Is it possible for a Spurs fan to talk about another team without bringing up their own? Who gives a fuck about Manu in this case?
And I'm not 100% sold that the Mavs chances of progressing through the playoffs rested on the shoulders of Caron Butler.
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 04:42 PM
It seems like squirtles contract is never fucking ending.
Shank
01-04-2011, 04:43 PM
You mean all those years of seeing the other guys, um, never step up isn't entering their minds?
I hope you're a fan of what Jason Terry brought early this season because you're about to get a full dose of that amount of action. The good thing is - every 5th game, he'll kick some ass.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:43 PM
Is it possible for a Spurs fan to talk about another team without bringing up their own? Who gives a fuck about Manu in this case?
And I'm not 100% sold that the Mavs chances of progressing through the playoffs rested on the shoulders of Caron Butler.
It rested on the shoulders of a capable #2 scorer, which Butler could have been. As it is, there's nobody now. The Mavs can't seriously expect Roddy to step in and be a 17-20 PPG guy right away?
JamStone
01-04-2011, 04:43 PM
I was a Haywood believer for a while, even as sribb was pronouncing him the worst signing in the history of humanity, but Haywood is just intent on being a cunt. When they trade him, good riddance.
Getting off topic, but how are the Mavs going to trade Haywood?
Other than the season his contract expires that is.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:44 PM
Getting off topic, but how are the Mavs going to trade Haywood?
Other than the season his contract expires that is.
My only hope was that Michael Jordan has spent too much time gambling to look at box scores, then when Dallas throws a trade offer out, he takes a quick glance at Haywood's Wikipedia page, sees "University Of North Carolina" on there, and accepts the trade.
Shank
01-04-2011, 04:45 PM
You mean all those years of seeing the other guys, um, never step up isn't entering their minds?
I think the "other guys" include
Terry (hot and cold)
Marion (liked him at the 4, would rather he kept up that role)
Stevenson (mono's favorite)
Ajinca backing up Dirk (to aid in the move of marion at the 3)
Dojo (in limited minutes. we know carlisle hates rookies)
And, if the little shit stops breaking his foot again
Beaubois
nkdlunch
01-04-2011, 04:46 PM
Is it possible for a Spurs fan to talk about another team without bringing up their own? Who gives a fuck about Manu in this case?
well the situations are similar. Butler + Manu of 08 had similar impact on their teams.
And I'm not 100% sold that the Mavs chances of progressing through the playoffs rested on the shoulders of Caron Butler.
this is exactly what I though of chances or beating mavs in round 1. Brutal awakening awaits you.
Shank
01-04-2011, 04:47 PM
It rested on the shoulders of a capable #2 scorer, which Butler could have been. As it is, there's nobody now. The Mavs can't seriously expect Roddy to step in and be a 17-20 PPG guy right away?
We're back in 2006 mode, then.
They won't stand pat, though. Don't worry.
Shank
01-04-2011, 04:49 PM
this is exactly what I though of chances or beating mavs in round 1. Brutal awakening awaits you.
Maybe if the playoffs started tomorrow. Last I checked, we're not even halfway through the season and there's still the trade deadline. A lot can happen, obviously.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 04:50 PM
Ajinca backing up Dirk (to aid in the move of marion at the 3)
oh god, please no. Seeing that guy jack up errant 3point shots and driving with reckless abandon makes me want to vomit. He's like a 7 foot tall Barea.
admiralsnackbar
01-04-2011, 04:50 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5798072
Butler/Roddy/Haywood for Jackson/Diop
non Mav fans, is this trade at all realistic? Would the Bobcats go for it? I'm basing this partially on Jordan wanting to rebuild/Jordan having a hard-on for former UNC guys/Jordan being dumb.
Just spit-balling, but I can see the Blazers maybe being good trade partners for y'all. Camby's getting older, so they might consider taking on Haywood if they could get Beaubois, picks, and spare parts for the oft-injured Batum and Pryz and pieces. I'm thinking most teams aren't in serious cap trouble given they've had 2 years to adjust to the global financial meltdown, so Butler will probably just turn into an injury that gets written off the books as an exception.
Memphis or Golden State might also be interested in trading redundant back-court players in exchange for picks and parts.
ElNono
01-04-2011, 04:51 PM
The piece is running water and medical supplies in your former jungle country.
lol stalking posters
lol always a follower
lol changing nicknames over e-cred
lol gtown
lol so far up your ass
lol meltdown
Shank
01-04-2011, 04:52 PM
Getting off topic, but how are the Mavs going to trade Haywood?
Other than the season his contract expires that is.
He's not completely untradeable. He can be moved to a team that's in desperate need for a center. Yes, that contract looks rough but that's because he's a whore that shut down once he got his money and is no longer 'the man' at the position. Ship him off to a new team, plug him in as the starter, show that he's going to be a vital part of your team and he'll step up once again. He's not completely devoid of talent. Teams always find themselves overpaying for center talent. It's the market.
nkdlunch
01-04-2011, 04:53 PM
what about Fernandez?
he does not fit in Portland and a new beginning might be what his career needs.
Fernandez for Haywood straight up?
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 04:54 PM
oh god, please no. Seeing that guy jack up errant 3point shots and driving with reckless abandon makes me want to vomit. He's like a 7 foot tall Barea.
Are you sure you're not thinking of Cardinal?
djohn2oo8
01-04-2011, 04:54 PM
Portland is not taking that contract...
Ignignokt
01-04-2011, 04:55 PM
rofl.. el nono can't stop talking about me even in threads i don't posts.. lol
LOL Dick owned
lol thinking about me
lol family is suffering because of his shitty fathering
nkdlunch
01-04-2011, 04:55 PM
Are you sure you're not thinking of Cardinal?
Cardinal makes them from what I seen
ElNono
01-04-2011, 04:57 PM
rofl.. el nono can't stop talking about me even in threads i don't posts.. lol
You didn't post in this thread before? :lmao
What's this?
The piece is running water and medical supplies in your former jungle country.
lol so fucking owned that he doesn't remember where he followed a poster
lol stalking posters
lol always a follower
lol changing nicknames over e-cred
lol gtown
lol so far up your ass
lol meltdown
timvp
01-04-2011, 04:58 PM
Sucks. In my four ringed fantasy world, I was hoping for Mavs to get the two seed and the Lakers to get the third seed and for the Mavs to give the Lakers all they could handle. This injury makes that fantasy less likely, although not impossible.
I was never too impressed with Caron's fit with the Mavs. He could score but was it ever within the offense? Then again, I don't mean to kick him while he down. Karma might break my leg. Money outweighing problems on the Mavs team. They sticking to the script, you hatin' fans skipping scenes.
Be good or be good at it.
#41 Shoot Em Up
01-04-2011, 04:58 PM
Bottom line we know Cuban is going to try and replace Butler, we just have to wait and see who that is going to be.
Anyone who thinks this season is over is in serious panic mode. No drop in the standings as long as Dirk gets back healthy.
Now we wait for what Cuban pulls off
Shank
01-04-2011, 04:59 PM
Sucks. In my four ringed fantasy world, I was hoping for Mavs to get the two seed and the Lakers to get the third seed and for the Mavs to give the Lakers all they could handle. This injury makes that fantasy less likely, although not impossible.
I was never too impressed with Caron's fit with the Mavs. He could score but was it ever within the offense? Then again, I don't mean to kick him while he down. Karma might break my leg. Money outweighing problems on the Mavs team. They sticking to the script, you hatin' fans skipping scenes.
Be good or be good at it.
Can someone translate this?
Killakobe81
01-04-2011, 04:59 PM
tbh if Roddy ever comes back, another SF really isn't what the Mavs need. Stevenson could probably play a little backup 3 along with his 2-guard duties. They need a backup PF more than anything.
I agree. The Mavs dont really have any holes if Roddy comes back strong they just need someone to rely on and be consistent when the double and triple teams come at dirk in the playoffs ...
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 05:00 PM
Sucks. In my four ringed fantasy world, I was hoping for Mavs to get the two seed and the Lakers to get the third seed and for the Mavs to give the Lakers all they could handle. This injury makes that fantasy less likely, although not impossible.
I was never too impressed with Caron's fit with the Mavs. He could score but was it ever within the offense? Then again, I don't mean to kick him while he down. Karma might break my leg. Money outweighing problems on the Mavs team. They sticking to the script, you hatin' fans skipping scenes.
Be good or be good at it.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao nice wayne reference timvp/lakaluva/spursdynsasty/jamstone :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:hat:king:toast :downspin::lmao
4>0rings
01-04-2011, 05:00 PM
Look on the bright side mavfan, you really weren't going to win anything anyways. No loss.
Ignignokt
01-04-2011, 05:01 PM
You didn't post in this thread before? :lmao
What's this?
lol so fucking owned that he doesn't remember where he followed a poster
lol stalking posters
lol always a follower
lol changing nicknames over e-cred
lol gtown
lol so far up your ass
lol meltdown
lol broken home because of daddehs internet addiction
lol Wife getting plowed by Tyson Chandler
lol Gtown your owner
lol Chandler so far up her ass
lol meltdown.
ElNono
01-04-2011, 05:04 PM
lol broken home because of daddehs internet addiction
lol Wife getting plowed by Tyson Chandler
lol Gtown your owner
lol Chandler so far up her ass
lol meltdown.
lol trying to save face after caught stalking again
lol *STILL* butthurt after 10 days
lol trying to restore e-cred without changing nicknames
lol gtown
lol meltdown
4>0rings
01-04-2011, 05:05 PM
Can someone explain the reference to G-town?
ElNono
01-04-2011, 05:07 PM
Can someone explain the reference to G-town?
That was Ignignokt's previous nickname... before he tried to be cool and shit...
:lmao
Ignignokt
01-04-2011, 05:10 PM
That was Ignignokt's previous nickname... before he tried to be cool and shit...
:lmao
lol making up narratives.
Gtownspur was my old nick. same guy.
But Elnono needs to make up a narrative.. lol shitty father.
Muser
01-04-2011, 05:11 PM
Please trade for VC and not SJax.
DisAsTerBot
01-04-2011, 05:13 PM
lol making up narratives.
lol making fun of your own schtick
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 05:15 PM
BNSF stop derailing what was once a solid basketball discussion, please.
ps, mav fans, how would you feel about this trade?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=22l433s
I don't see why Philly takes that, other than to get rid of Brand.
I would love Brand as a backup to Dirk, but for some reason most Mav fans vomit at the idea.
Rummpd
01-04-2011, 05:16 PM
I like Caron whom I met when he was a Wizard and he is a class act. Offensively the Mavs will be ok with Stevenson, Marion and Roddy B/Terry playing more, but his loss will hurt their defense on the greats like Kobe or Manu when it counts.
ElNono
01-04-2011, 05:16 PM
lol making up narratives.
Gtownspur was my old nick. same guy.
But Elnono needs to make up a narrative.. lol shitty father.
lol narratives :cry :cry :cry
lol same butthurt poster
lol same stalker
lol same follower
lol same meltdowns
lol same old gtown
:lmao
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 05:19 PM
or even this trade, still getting a backup PF without having to take on Brand's contract
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2ecttav
nah fuck nocioni. and this trade is even less likely than the other one.
the only way Philly trades Iggy is if a team takes Brand's contract too. I would do this in a heartbeat. But most Mavs fans think it's stupid because it would ruin their financial flexibility in the future. To which I have two replies - "What financial flexibility?" and "What future?"
ElNono
01-04-2011, 05:20 PM
or even this trade, still getting a backup PF without having to take on Brand's contract
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2ecttav
ehhhh... that would be a good trade, imo. Maybe not the greatest, but Nocioni can play D and if Iggy gets in the running game with Kidd/Marion, it can work.
The question is wether Philly feels like calling off the season. They've been playing decent lately.
monosylab1k
01-04-2011, 05:20 PM
What do you mean you don't see why they'd do it? They'd be getting rid of 2 contracts they don't want and opening up all kinds of space. Iggy is disgruntled and they don't see him fitting in with their long term plans they've said.
If they just want to dump salary, then sure they'd do it. But I still think teams will demand Roddy, especially with the knowledge that Caron is out for the year and the Mavs are fucked unless they make a move.
#41 Shoot Em Up
01-04-2011, 05:27 PM
It just depends on how desperate Philly is to get Iggys contract off the books.
Maybe they won't require us to take on Brand, words can't explain that contract
Shank
01-04-2011, 05:28 PM
nah fuck nocioni. and this trade is even less likely than the other one.
the only way Philly trades Iggy is if a team takes Brand's contract too. I would do this in a heartbeat. But most Mavs fans think it's stupid because it would ruin their financial flexibility in the future. To which I have two replies - "What financial flexibility?" and "What future?"
Exactly. Fuck money. It's not my cash to begin with. With your team headed up by Dirk and Kidd, the time to make a move is now. You don't have a team of 25 year-olds looking to build a dynasty. If you want to win the big one, you have 1-2 years to do so with that core.
Shank
01-04-2011, 05:29 PM
What would the Kings want for Casspi? I'd seen he's being shopped.
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 05:30 PM
I don't see why Philly takes that, other than to get rid of Brand.
I would love Brand as a backup to Dirk, but for some reason most Mav fans vomit at the idea.
It gets rid of massive salary. I think Philly has realized that Iggy is not part of their long term and has been exploring the idea of trading him for some time.
DB just posed an article on Dallas interest in Iggy, but for some reason its for "insider" members only. Fish finally sold out.
#41 Shoot Em Up
01-04-2011, 05:36 PM
We need to stop acting like we are replacing an irreplaceable player.
Butler is a good player, but I count 4 players that we would not be able to live without on this team: Chandler, Dirk(obvious), Terry, Kidd.
We don't need a big trade just a small upgrade to cover his production.
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 05:44 PM
Butler is a good player, but I count 4 players that we would not be able to live without on this team: Chandler, Dirk(obvious), Terry, Kidd.
:lmao:lmao:lmao
DPG21920
01-04-2011, 05:44 PM
Butler can easily be replaced if Cubes is willing to take on money.
BTW, Roddy is about 3 weeks from returning, so something has to be done imo.
#41 Shoot Em Up
01-04-2011, 05:47 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao
I know you have issues with Jet but like it or not he is a key and will always be as long as he is here.
If it had been Jet out for the season instead of Butler you really think the Mavs would be better off?
MiamiHeatNumba1
01-04-2011, 05:47 PM
Merry Christmas Mavs fans. You'd better hope Denver is good with two shitty 1st rounders and Philly is content with only dumping salary and getting an easier contract than Brand's to move.
Oh, and you'd better win this season.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3ajduqq
:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:
Roddy Beaubois
01-04-2011, 05:50 PM
I know you have issues with Jet but like it or not he is a key and will always be as long as he is here.
A key too our failure. I realize that he is a big part of our offense, but that is part of the problem. We rely on him too much and, come playoff time when he disappears, it comes back to bite us.
If it had been Jet out for the season instead of Butler you really think the Mavs would be better off?
A million times yes. That is what you would call a blessing in disguise.
Shank
01-04-2011, 05:51 PM
A key too our failure. I realize that he is a big part of our offense, but that is part of the problem. We rely on him too much and, come playoff time when he disappears, it comes back to bite us.
A million times yes. That is what you would call a blessing in disguise.
Jet needs to suffer a rare injury where he's only allowed to play 20 minutes a night or his heart will explode. Crank 3 - Jason Terry.
#41 Shoot Em Up
01-04-2011, 05:52 PM
I can understand that, Jet has had issues in the postseason, but until we find a capable replacement which we hope Roddy will be, we will have to rely on Jet
baseline bum
01-04-2011, 06:05 PM
SJax or (reluctantly) Iggy or just tank the season and try to pull a draft lottery miracle out of our ass like the Spurs.
To draft Harrison Barnes or Perry Jones? It might have made some shred of sense if Kyrie Irving hadn't gotten hurt, but now?
urunobili
01-04-2011, 06:08 PM
Nono, Igni;
As friend of both, it'd be cool if the personal battles happen wall to wall and/or in a thread specifically opened for it if you wanna go public about it.
You guys are showing off stuff that I don't think it adds much to the thread and makes it tougher to read to the rest of us.
That was the most polite way I could think of asking :), no mod complex.
Cessation
01-04-2011, 07:24 PM
lol ratface irreplaceable...not sure if serious..
D-Wade #3
01-04-2011, 07:29 PM
I can understand that, Jet has had issues in the postseason, but until we find a capable replacement which we hope Roddy will be, we will have to rely on Jet
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/polevaultingp1.gif
Giuseppe
01-04-2011, 07:32 PM
The Lakers came a gnat's ass from trading for Terry at one time. He'd a made a fine Laker/chock full of shit.
tee, hee.
frodo
01-05-2011, 01:55 AM
tbh if Roddy ever comes back, another SF really isn't what the Mavs need. Stevenson could probably play a little backup 3 along with his 2-guard duties. They need a backup PF more than anything.
just what i've been recommending tbh. Butler to cleveland for Varejao + trashes
frodo
01-05-2011, 02:06 AM
unless you can get stephen jackson on the cheap, just don't bother making a deal. play the season out and be first round fodder, then try and reload for next season. IIRC Terry will be a good sized expiring so that could be something teams want to trade for.
you have more than enough expiring contracts this season you must be stupid to not make the most of them. with Kidd/Dirk 1yr older god knows if they are gonna play this good next season. mavs on win-now mode now and that's when you should be doing everything you can to get the biggest possible instant power.
make a trade/waive move on TC if you need to. package TC & butler and trade them for a 17m+ player, then sign him back a month later for vet minimum. haywood will do fine at C during the time w/o TC and when TC returns, we STACKED
we MF'N stacked
To draft Harrison Barnes or Perry Jones? It might have made some shred of sense if Kyrie Irving hadn't gotten hurt, but now?
Why does everyone orgasm over Harrison Barnes?
The guy hardly stands out at North Carolina.
frodo
01-05-2011, 02:11 AM
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5798072
Butler/Roddy/Haywood for Jackson/Diop
non Mav fans, is this trade at all realistic? Would the Bobcats go for it? I'm basing this partially on Jordan wanting to rebuild/Jordan having a hard-on for former UNC guys/Jordan being dumb.
haywood is one of the contracts that are the least likely to be dealt out tbh.
frodo
01-05-2011, 02:26 AM
Can someone translate this?
lol having problem reading the post written by a semi-professional. google machine is always standing by for foreigners but there's no such thing for retards with dyslexia, imho.
#41 Shoot Em Up
01-05-2011, 02:34 AM
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/polevaultingp1.gif
Another excellent post tbh
frodo
01-05-2011, 02:40 AM
nah fuck nocioni. and this trade is even less likely than the other one.
the only way Philly trades Iggy is if a team takes Brand's contract too. I would do this in a heartbeat. But most Mavs fans think it's stupid because it would ruin their financial flexibility in the future. To which I have two replies - "What financial flexibility?" and "What future?"
iggy would be a good guy to have, but im not sure if hes worth losing stevenson. trigga been doing good this season as a starting SG, or starting 3 in these two games. dirk/kidd ain't having too many more years to play this good, that's why more scrutiny is needed in making a trade.
brand would be too MF'N short to play C so he'd be no more than dirks dub, meaning dirk will only give him a bit more than 10min/game as long as he stays healthy. unsatisfied with the lack of minutes dude would also "tank it like a cunt" pretty much like haywood does
frodo
01-05-2011, 02:49 AM
or even this trade, still getting a backup PF without having to take on Brand's contract
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2ecttav
mavs need a backup PF with length that rebounds and plays some solid D. TC is our only reliable rebounder now and thats definitely not enough. a doggy big would do a world of good for us imo
mavs should seriously look into the possibility of signing varejao imo, dude plays either PF/C so he'd give cover for both TC and dirk. nocioni would be no bigger than a fringe player imho, just a younger version of findog
Roddy Beaubois
01-05-2011, 03:31 PM
Don't shoot jumpshots for five months................................. win the team three point shootout on my first day back
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=474843027734
"Roddy is trash talking as the 3s rain down"
Roddy Beaubois
01-05-2011, 03:32 PM
So at least the fucker is practicing again. Hopefully back in a few weeks.
Phillip
01-05-2011, 03:43 PM
mavs need a backup PF with length that rebounds and plays some solid D. TC is our only reliable rebounder now and thats definitely not enough. a doggy big would do a world of good for us imo
mavs should seriously look into the possibility of signing varejao imo, dude plays either PF/C so he'd give cover for both TC and dirk. nocioni would be no bigger than a fringe player imho, just a younger version of findog
I think that Carlisle needs to give Mahinimi a chance at backup PF.
some people complain about Cardinal, but I like the guy. He stretches the floor with his 3pt shot, plays hard on defense, and is constantly hustling. very good and smart passer too.
Phillip
01-05-2011, 03:48 PM
Don't shoot jumpshots for five months................................. win the team three point shootout on my first day back
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=474843027734
"Roddy is trash talking as the 3s rain down"
I can't view the video here at work unfortunately.
Dude is a helluva shooter though. The last guard I've on the Mavs who was as fluid and versatile of a shooter as Roddy was Steve Nash, and Nash IMO is the best shooter in NBA history. From what I saw of Roddy last year, there isn't a single type of jumper he cant hit. Fadeaway, pull up, sidestepping, off-balance, catch and shoot, hand-in-face, off the dribblem, while being fouled... dude could hit all of them, and did so quite proficiently, not just one lucky one here and there. Hopefully he can stay healthy and keep working hard like he has been. His potential is sky-high as long as he doesn't give up.
At least our hearts are broken now, instead of game 6/7 of round 1.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao
DieHardSpursFan1537
01-05-2011, 07:04 PM
That sucks for Butler.....
Shank
01-05-2011, 07:04 PM
Cardinal played his ass off against Aldridge last night. Tough assignment.
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