40-7 w/ Dirk/Chandler

[Ghazi]

we stacked

[Hooks]

Fact: Mavs have never won a 'ship with Dirk

Fact: 4 Rings faggot.

[namlook]

Mavs are regular season wonders and always fall flat on their face when it matters.

30 years of history
Championships - 0
Conference Titles - 1

[Obstructed_View]

Fortunately, Chandler had Mahinmi to come in and bail his ass out tonight.

[sribb43]

Unfortunately you cant dump the ball into chandler when you need a bucket. Mavs only effective plays down the stretch of games is either a Dirk iso or Dirk/JET pick n roll.

[DPG21920]

Mavs are still a damn good team, and just like I tell Spurs fans, just because there is a glaring problem, doesn't mean they aren't a damn good team.

Mavs, while they seem to score just fine (thanks, Dirk), lack playmakers and creators for themselves. Losing Caron hurts. Replacing him with Peja/Roddy is at best a wash (doesn't seem like it at the moment either). But they needed to make a move.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Unfortunately you cant dump the ball into chandler when you need a bucket. Mavs only effective plays down the stretch of games is either a Dirk iso or Dirk/JET pick n roll.

Mavs don't attempt to dump the ball into Chandler on a consistent
enough basis to really see what they can get from him.
The one thing I wish RC would add to the offensive side.

[DPG21920]

Shut up ^

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Shut up ^

u mad?? :cry:cry:cry

[DPG21920]

Stop talking. ^

[sribb43]

Mavs don't attempt to dump the ball into Chandler on a consistent
enough basis to really see what they can get from him.
The one thing I wish RC would add to the offensive side.

He hasnt had any type of post game his whole career. His is an excellent finisher at the rim with lobs and such but more often then not, you dont gets those in the closing seconds of playoffs games. He has added the elbow jumper to his game this season which is nice but thats not something I want ran for him or an iso post up play down the stretch of playoff games

[DPG21920]

You also saw the extreme lack of talent/playmaking with Dirk out. Obviously, if you lose Dirk you are going to struggle, but there was literally no one on the team that could step up and resemble a go-to guy offensively.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

He hasnt had any type of post game his whole career. His is an excellent finisher at the rim with lobs and such but more often then not, you dont gets those in the closing seconds of playoffs games. He has added the elbow jumper to his game this season which is nice but thats not something I want ran for him or an iso post up play down the stretch of playoff games

agreed

[Ghazi]

it appears we aren't going to give roddy enough slack to develop into what we need from him, at least not this season, and essentially peja for butler was the most retarded swap i think we've made to date. with wallace we would be contenders, now we just have another gaping hole (perimeter defense) on top of our previous gaping hole (lack of another creator, #2 option)

it's just too much to overcome teams just cannot win constructed this way

apparently we can, 40-7 ecstasy

also, Matrix is every bit the defender G-Force is..

[jjktkk]

Mavs don't attempt to dump the ball into Chandler on a consistent
enough basis to really see what they can get from him.
The one thing I wish RC would add to the offensive side.

Chandler doesn't have a back to a basket game. Damn 41, don't you even know your favorite team?

[Ghazi]

we're on a 16 game win streak if not for fluke Denver game and people acting like the Mavs are the most flawed team ever :lol

[WeNeedLength]

apparently we can, 40-7 ecstasy

also, Matrix is every bit the defender G-Force is..

Spurs are 49-10 no matter the injuries.. :lol

[DJB]

Ain't nobody scared of the regular season Mavs.

[endrity]

we're on a 16 game win streak if not for fluke Denver game and people acting like the Mavs are the most flawed team ever :lol

Curbstomping Toronto, Washington, Philly etc. don't mean shit when we don't have anyone to throw at Kobe, except maybe our reserve SF/PF.

[DPG21920]

apparently we can, 40-7 ecstasy

also, Matrix is every bit the defender G-Force is..

By this logic, you are still behind the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

I think Ghazi forgot they were the 2nd seed last year and lost to the 7th seed.

[Ghazi]

Curbstomping Toronto, Washington, Philly etc. don't mean shit when we don't have anyone to throw at Kobe, except maybe our reserve SF/PF.

when healthy:

2-0 v Heat
2-0 v Celtics
1-0 v Spurs
0-2 v Bulls
1-0 v Lakers
1-0 v Magic

[Ghazi]

I think Ghazi forgot they were the 2nd seed last year and lost to the 7th seed.

last years team was a little different. inferior margin of victory, some bizarre showings (34 point loss to Knicks comes to mind), etc etc

40-7 is really hard to just brush off. I know a chunk of that was w/ Butler, but I digress.

to say the Mavs play like this every regular season isnt really true. they didnt look this good in the past 3 regular seasons.

[DPG21920]

Mavs were undoubtedly better than last year, with Butler healthy.

They have also had some spectacular regular seasons in the past 3 years.

[Ghazi]

51 wins, 50 wins, 55 wins (w/ MoV less than 3)... I dont think those are that spectacular compared to 40-7 ecstasy

[Pelicans78]

Spurs fans are nervous. They know they're dream season is at risking of flaming out in the end. They're a flawed team and have the least inside presence out of the contenders.

[Tuddy]

not enough slashers. The two little people don't count.

[endrity]

when healthy:

2-0 v Heat
2-0 v Celtics
1-0 v Spurs
0-2 v Bulls
1-0 v Lakers
1-0 v Magic

A lot of those are with Butler and Stevenson as wing defenders

[Pelicans78]

A lot of those are with Butler and Stevenson as wing defenders

I think we will see Stevenson against the Lakers. No reason to play Roddy against them. Roddy is better suited for the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

:lol You realize Tim is an inside presence no? Look at where he ranks with regards to shot blockers THIS year.

[DPG21920]

Spurs definitely have interior defense problems though. Luckily, the Mavs have no slashers or post players.

[endrity]

I think we will see Stevenson against the Lakers. No reason to play Roddy against them. Roddy is better suited for the Spurs.

Other than defending quick PGs being the weakest point the Lakers have in their defense, than yes I see no reason to play him against the Lakers. Barea better have the series of his life than, cause as great as Dirk is he is not going to offset the production from Odom/Gasol/Bynum. Maybe Peja could survive that series since he is going to be matched up against Artest most of the time.

[Obstructed_View]

Unfortunately you cant dump the ball into chandler when you need a bucket. Mavs only effective plays down the stretch of games is either a Dirk iso or Dirk/JET pick n roll.

That's okay. The Mavs have got guys who can take shots late in games. You want a guy like him scoring on putbacks and alley oops. A guy who provides energy even when you aren't running plays for him is valuable, and why the Mavs love him so much.

[Tuddy]

Spurs definitely have interior defense problems though. Luckily, the Mavs have no slashers or post players.
Be interesting to see how many minutes Duncan can control the paint for in the playoffs given his reduced minutes and touches in the regular season. Spose it's all up to his quad.

[Venti Quattro]

Staaaaaaaaaacked. Chandler/Dirk is a powerful frontline for Dallas. They complement each other!

[Obstructed_View]

last years team was a little different. inferior margin of victory, some bizarre showings (34 point loss to Knicks comes to mind), etc etc

40-7 is really hard to just brush off. I know a chunk of that was w/ Butler, but I digress.

to say the Mavs play like this every regular season isnt really true. they didnt look this good in the past 3 regular seasons.

Definitely better than last year, but some of the guys who faded last year in the postseason have to show up.

BTW, people that hate the Peja signing don't remember how bad he torches Spurs teams without Bruce Bowen.

[TD 21]

Mavs fans never cease to amaze. I continue to be amazed at how many people buy into this team season after season, even though they've played basically the same season for ten straight and come up well short of the finish line in all but one and even in that season, they still came up short, just not well short.

When will people accept that no team with Nowitzki as their best player is going to win a championship? It's been made abundantly clear over the past decade. I'm not "trolling" or "hating" or "butthurt", I'm just not going to ignore a decade's worth of evidence just because the Mavs are in the midst of a torrid stretch in their typical fools-gold regular season.

I get that, as a fan, it's tough not to get excited and I'm not trying to put a damper on what they're doing, I'm just being a realist. Why get your hopes up annually? Honestly, I'm surprised you guys aren't like Red Sox fans pre '04 by now. I'm genuinely surprised you're not cynics.

[Ghazi]

Mavs fans never cease to amaze. I continue to be amazed at how many people buy into this team season after season, even though they've played basically the same season for ten straight and come up well short of the finish line in all but one and even in that season, they still came up short, just not well short.

When will people accept that no team with Nowitzki as their best player is going to win a championship? It's been made abundantly clear over the past decade, yet we're supposed to ignore that because the Mavs in the midst of their typical fools-gold regular season? Every time they're on a torrid stretch, the masses get giddy.

:rolleyes

[Juan]

:lmao jj barea bout to take the mavs to the promise land.. you fuckin mavs fans r unreal. I feel sorry for you guys. You know this team gunna choke

[mavsluva]

[QUOTE=Ghazi;5008506]we stacked[/QUOTE

It simply does not matter.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

fools-gold regular season.


ironic

[Axe Murderer]

.

[Beau]

ironic

Moronic, tis your reply...

[# 1 Troll]

Moronic, tis your reply...


:cry don't talk about my spuds

[Beau]

:cry don't talk about my spuds

Why you :cry?

[# 1 Troll]

my spuds are gonna go all the way

[# 1 Troll]

mavs are chokers and the spuds time has passed. but i rather put my money on dallas then those spics who have no frontline tbqmh

[Juan]

my spuds are gonna go all the way

mi amigo, sorry to inform you but no way the Spurs go all the way this year!!! you are loco!!!! JJ Barea is going to lead us to the promiseland! si!

[# 1 Troll]

mi amigo, sorry to inform you but no way the Spurs go all the way this year!!! you are loco!!!! JJ Barea is going to lead us to the promiseland! si!

spic

[Beau]

my spuds are gonna go all the way


mavs are chokers and the spuds time has passed. but i rather put my money on dallas then those spics who have no frontline tbqmh

Who you trying to convince? I don't get it, you're a Mavs fan, right? I think too highly of you to think you're being disingenuous...


spic

That's racist honky.

[Juan]

spic

Callate el osico gordota

[Fergie The Florists]

Calm your liver, or come down to provi and ill stick my bobos up your auss

[Juan]

Calm your liver, or come down to provi and ill stick my bobos up your auss

how many pesos does a rose like that in your picture cost? gracias.

[Beau]

Calm your liver, or come down to provi and ill stick my bobos up your auss

Every rose has its thorn. Guessing that's not pleasant entering or exiting, eh?

[Rummpd]

Fail = 3.88 point differential not historical the mark of a great team.

[endrity]

Fail = 3.88 point differential not historical the mark of a great team.

It's over 8 the last 25% of the games, and it was a solid +5 for most of the season, until Dirk and Butler went out. And yes, without those two the Mavs are terrible.

[Henke]

Fail = 3.88 point differential not historical the mark of a great team.

With Dirk in the lineup our point differential is like 5,9 IIRC.Pretty solid if you ask me.The season we went to the finals for example it was 6,1.

Also we have played one of the toughest schedules in the league.

This is not like last year when with Dirk healthy all season long we had a point differential of 2,7(although after the Butler/Haywood trade we were better than this).

[Venti Quattro]

Point differential as gauge for a great team :lmao

What happened to the we don't care about the regular season spurfans :cry :cry :cry

[Ghazi]

Mavs were undoubtedly better than last year, with Butler healthy.

They have also had some spectacular regular seasons in the past 3 years.

:lol

;)

[Ghazi]

it appears we aren't going to give roddy enough slack to develop into what we need from him, at least not this season, and essentially peja for butler was the most retarded swap i think we've made to date. with wallace we would be contenders, now we just have another gaping hole (perimeter defense) on top of our previous gaping hole (lack of another creator, #2 option)

it's just too much to overcome teams just cannot win constructed this way


ghazi we've ALWAYS had streaks like these..just about every regular season over the past decade and it's never once translated into a championship. teams not constructed properly can be talented enough to win ball games in the regular season but will ultimately fold in the playoffs


i repeat the mavs went from contenders to pretenders with hte peja signing..while everyone else was applauding it, and it seemed like a good pickup in the short run at the time, i was nodding my head in disbelief. i knew that he wouldn't be a 10th man, that they'd see him as the "fix" at SF and stand pat..we have a history of "loving our boys in blue"
:lol

Monostradamus get the FUCK in here

[endrity]

2011 Peja = 2006 KVH??

A lot of fans were skeptical even then, wondering why a team trying to shed the "soft" label would pick up someone like that. Obviously pure shooting is at a premium in the NBA, and just as Killah made some big shots especially in Game 7 against SA, so has Peja this year. He can't play a lot of minutes in this series, or even a Finals against LBJ, but if he plays well in his limited minutes like tonight it's a bonus.

I hope he sticks around for one more year, shooters like that don't come around very often.

[stretch]

2011 Peja = 2006 KVH??

A lot of fans were skeptical even then, wondering why a team trying to shed the "soft" label would pick up someone like that. Obviously pure shooting is at a premium in the NBA, and just as Killah made some big shots especially in Game 7 against SA, so has Peja this year. He can't play a lot of minutes in this series, or even a Finals against LBJ, but if he plays well in his limited minutes like tonight it's a bonus.

I hope he sticks around for one more year, shooters like that don't come around very often.

I've always thought the same thing.

Having Peja in to back Dirk up is almost the same as KVH was doing. Gives the Mavs a scoring punch at PF when Dirk goes out, and still allows them to play a similar style in that they have good floor spacing from the PF position, which makes their offense tougher to guard.

[endrity]

I've always thought the same thing.

Having Peja in to back Dirk up is almost the same as KVH was doing. Gives the Mavs a scoring punch at PF when Dirk goes out, and still allows them to play a similar style in that they have good floor spacing from the PF position, which makes their offense tougher to guard.

There were other more important factors, but replacing KVH with Croshere was a big mistake during the GS series. We got absolutely no spacing on the team, because once Jet was was having a crap series, Stack, Harris and Howard were not the kind to take advantage of the double teams on Dirk. If Van Horn was there to hit a three once in a while, it would have made them much more tentative in swarming Dirk.

[Ghazi]

Mavs fans never cease to amaze. I continue to be amazed at how many people buy into this team season after season, even though they've played basically the same season for ten straight and come up well short of the finish line in all but one and even in that season, they still came up short, just not well short.

When will people accept that no team with Nowitzki as their best player is going to win a championship? It's been made abundantly clear over the past decade. I'm not "trolling" or "hating" or "butthurt", I'm just not going to ignore a decade's worth of evidence just because the Mavs are in the midst of a torrid stretch in their typical fools-gold regular season.

I get that, as a fan, it's tough not to get excited and I'm not trying to put a damper on what they're doing, I'm just being a realist. Why get your hopes up annually? Honestly, I'm surprised you guys aren't like Red Sox fans pre '04 by now. I'm genuinely surprised you're not cynics.

:lol TD 21

[lefty]

TD 21 pwned :lmao

[Amarelooms]

lol at the homo...not talking about you Ghazi....ya dummy

:elephant

[frodo]

mavs 3-0 with JJB starting