If we win it all this year, would you rather have Duncan or Ginobili be Finals MVP?

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

Before someone pounces and says, "It's only March," well, it's only a hypothetical thread.



If we win it all, whom would you rather see be Finals MVP?




Ginobili getting Finals MVP = The Big Three - Dunc, Park, and Manu - would then all each have collected Finals MVP accolades at one point.


Duncan getting MVP = His 4th, and, if his last ring ever, would really send him out on top as a crowning achievement.



Or.....who else might plausibly wind up as MVP, other than Parker?

[m33p0]

who ever deserves it. but manu is due one.

[will_spurs]

Duncan is already one of the legendary players in the history of basketball. If ever somebody tries to diminish Duncan's achievements by saying that some of his teammates won Finals MVP then they will look foolish and on top of that I will be there to smack them on the head.

Ginobili is due one (he put down some advance payments back in 2005) but on the other hand he's already a lock to the HOF due to his international + european achievements (and of course NBA).

So in the end I'd like Parker to get one more because he's currently on the bubble for the HoF and a second Finals MVP would probably turn it into a lock. And I'd really like to see these three guys in the HOF some day (+ Pop of course).

[elemento]

Whoever steps up in the final.

But i'd love to see Manu getting the MVP tbh.

[birdy219]

I would like a triple MVP. But if I had to pick one, it would be Timmay. It would put in the elite group of MJ and himself winning 4 or more finals MVP's. :flag:

[Anonymous Cowherd]

Manu Manu Manu

[Giuseppe]

Only Spurs fans.:lol

[tmtcsc]

We have threads like this to piss off Mavs fans.

[ALVAREZ6]

who cares

[greyforest]

I would rather the MVP of the Finals be the Finals MVP

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

I would rather the MVP of the Finals be the Finals MVP


By that logic, would you rather the eventual championship-winning team be the championship-winning team (even if it's the Heat, Celtics or Lakers?)


Come on.

[Russ]

Manu deserved it in '05.

But it would be hard to root against Duncan.

Winning Finals MVP in three different decades could be the most impressive feat in NBA history.

[100%duncan]

I'm a big TD fan. TD has won 3 finals mvp and tony has one. Manu deserves a finals mvp. And duncan having 1 last championship before retiring is enough, he is alread the GOAT, the legend, the big fundamental.

[TD21-FTW]

2011: TD
2012: Manu

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TD: 4x (in 3 decades)
TP: 1x
Manu: 1x

[Darrin]

It's only fair. Parker and Duncan have been recognized and Manu has been the best player so far this year.

[mathbzh]

I would like Ginobili to add a Finals MVP to his resume.
But if its Duncan or Parker... that's fine

[Lady M]

if Neal win the MVP it's ok for me
i just want a spur :)

[wildbill2u]

Before someone pounces and says, "It's only March," well, it's only a hypothetical thread.



If we win it all, whom would you rather see be Finals MVP?




Ginobili getting Finals MVP = The Big Three - Dunc, Park, and Manu - would then all each have collected Finals MVP accolades at one point.


Duncan getting MVP = His 4th, and, if his last ring ever, would really send him out on top as a crowning achievement.



Or.....who else might plausibly wind up as MVP, other than Parker?

I'm like Pop on this one. Whoever earns it should get it. So I don't care as long as the Finals MVP is a SPUR! :flag:

[TMTTRIO]

If we win one it'll either go to Tim or Tony. Manu's just too sporadic and inconsistant with his scoring and he's in a spot where he just fills in when Tim or Tony can't. I would love to see him get a little recognition and a little credit for all that he does. I was a little sad for him that he didn't get it in '05 with the monster playoffs that he had starting from Pop benching him in the Denver series as an experiment to see what would happen all the way to the Finals. I do think he's underrated with the general NBA fans but at the same time I don't know how much he really cares. Hey at least he made one more All Star game and won't be considered only a one time All Star now so his NBA resume isn't that empty:).

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

Can't wait to bump this thread when Kobe hoists his 3rd straight.

[WalterBenitez]

At present level .. Manu

[midnightpulp]

Can't wait to bump this thread when Kobe hoists his 3rd straight.

And yet that would only tie him with Duncan and Shaq.

But I guess it's expected that the 3rd best player post-Jordan would collect his Finals MVPs now that Duncan and Shaq are past their primes.

[smrattler]

If we win it all this year, I will be celebrating so much I doubt I'd even notice who was the MVP. I would not care at all. But if I had to vote, Manu maybe, he doesn't have one, give him one.

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

And yet that would only tie him with Duncan and Shaq.

But I guess it's expected that the 3rd best player post-Jordan would collect his Finals MVPs now that Duncan and Shaq are past their primes.


Number of Finals MVPs decides nothing. Every smart basketball knows this.

How is psychoanalysis going?

[DocDoc]

Gary Neal

[TampaDude]

Whoever deserves it. We'll see.

But we ARE winning it all this year.

[Budkin]

I don't really care... I just want them to win it.

[greyforest]

By that logic, would you rather the eventual championship-winning team be the championship-winning team (even if it's the Heat, Celtics or Lakers?)


Come on.

I want the championship winner to be the best team, and the MVP to be the best player on that team.

The NBA's "officiating" doesn't always really go down like that (example, last year game 7 finals).

[midnightpulp]

Number of Finals MVPs decides nothing. Every smart basketball knows this.

How is psychoanalysis going?

And rings do?

In that case Havilcek (a first option type player) was the best perimeter player of his era over Jerry West and Oscar Robertson.

Rings are a team accomplishment. How you can't comprehend that is beyond me, but considering how much you fantasize about Kobe Bryant taking you to Colorado, I can somewhat understand. Delusions like that don't leave a lot of room for a logical mind to operate.

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

And rings do?

In that case Havilcek (a first option type player) was the best perimeter player of his era over Jerry West and Oscar Robertson.

Rings are a team accomplishment. How you can't comprehend that is beyond me, but considering how much you fantasize about Kobe Bryant taking you to Colorado, I can somewhat understand. Delusions like that don't leave a lot of room for a logical mind to operate.


Havlicek is a great player, lol.

But his career is not divided in 2 like Bryant's. Again, for those with brains it's pretty obvious.

Bryant's role in 5 rings is greater than Duncan's role in 4

That's the equation psycho dimwit.

[ohmwrecker]

Every smart basketball knows this.

:hat

[Spursmania]

It doesn't matter. Should go the whoever deserves it.

[Bill_Brasky]

Havlicek is a great player, lol.

But his career is not divided in 2 like Bryant's. Again, for those with brains it's pretty obvious.

Bryant's role in 5 rings is greater than Duncan's role in 4

That's the equation psycho dimwit.
6-24 chucker who disappeared in game 7

all time greats don't do that you stupid fuck.

Meanwhile, Tim almost had a quadruple double in a game 7. How you can even compare these players is beyond me.

[ElNono]

crofl people arguing with history2bs

lol Steve Blake has solid defensive fundamentals :lmao

[ElNono]

And about the op... who cares? Lets get the LOB then whoever gets it, gets it

[ohmwrecker]

And about the op... who cares? Lets get the LOB then whoever gets it, gets it

No shit. Focus people! Stop dicking around with these bullshit "what if" threads and Lock In. Wipe your noses and get it together!

[midnightpulp]

Havlicek is a great player, lol.

But his career is not divided in 2 like Bryant's. Again, for those with brains it's pretty obvious.

Bryant's role in 5 rings is greater than Duncan's role in 4

That's the equation psycho dimwit.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Are you a fuckin' idiot?

Do you realize that Hondo won titles 13 years apart? During the 60s, he was very much the Bryant to Russell's O'Neal, and then in the 70s, the Celts became his team, which resulted in him winning his first Finals MVP. His career is very much split in two, just like Kobe's.

And yeah, Bryant's role was greater in all the championships he won. Let's neglect the fact that his stats are worse than Duncan's, he has less Finals MVPs, and had the best player in the league on his team during the 3 peat.

"There really isn’t any diplomatic way to this: Tim Duncan’s playoff performances essentially run circles over Kobe Bryant’s."

http://www.warriorsworld.net/2011/02...-debate-close/

Spin that.

[Typical London Boy]

Ginobili was robbed in 2005. He was majorly responsible for the wins in games one and two, and then aside from the losses in games three, four and six, Robert Horry was the MVP of game five. Duncan was decent enough in game seven, but no way did that performance justify being deemed MVP of the series. Easy, lazy decision by the NBA.

Any Spurs fan knows that Ginobili was the true MVP of the 2005 finals. He could/should be awarded it if we win this year, but it'll just go to Duncan again.

[oski1000]

Manu MVP 2011. He already deserves it in 2005.

[velik_m]

I would prefer Bonner to win it. Spurstalk reaction would be epic. :downspin:

[dbreiden83080]

I'm pulling for Splitter..

[Baseline]

Duncan, absolutely. The only reason he didn't win it in 2007 is because we beat Cleveland so bad that we didn't need dominant games fom Tim. Yet Tim didn't care - he just wanted to win.

As opposed to Bryant, who was so terrified that Pau would win the MVP in last year's Finals that he chucked it up every time he touched it. Yet the league still gave him the MVP trophy, despite one of the worst - if not the worst - individual performaces in Finals history.

[Chawaman]

2011: TD
2012: Manu

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TD: 4x (in 3 decades)
TP: 1x
Manu: 1x

THIS ^^^ :toast