8.9 Quake hits near Northeastern Coast of Japan

[mouse]

chernobyl radiation was much worse


tell that to johnsmith


http://www.methodsofhealing.com/files/2010/03/do-you-need-down-syndrome-screening.jpg

[Cry Havoc]

Wow mouse, you're an idiot.

[Lonny]

Wow mouse, you're an idiot.
Fuck you and your science? Do you even support indy local film makers? fuck you.

[The Reckoning]

Fuck you and your science? Do you even support indy local film makers? fuck you.

well cats outta the bag now

[Wild Cobra]

Wow mouse, you're an idiot.
I agree. Those could be pictures of any birth defect, not necessarily cause by radiation. One looks like a downs syndrome child.

[CosmicCowboy]

Wow.

This is bad bad stuff. It's over. They are abandoning the plant.

They have no choice but to walk away and let things run their course.

Three melted down reactors. Exposed used fuel rod pools boiled dry. Basically a nuclear wasteland in Japan with the winds blowing the stuff everywhere for months.

Japan will never be the same.

Shit.

[Chomag]

Yep, from what they are saying it seems like all the people working on the reactors have left and quit operations. Sounds like they said Fuck it... not good at all.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

"temporarily"

[mouse]

I agree. Those could be pictures of any birth defect, not necessarily cause by radiation.



(open mouth insert foot)

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&q=chernobyl+birth+defects&revid=1183903673&sa=X&ei=_zGATfGRE8OP0QGG-82ICQ&ved=0CDQQ1QIoAQ&biw=1280&bih=556


http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&q=chernobyl+deformities&revid=2101108852&sa=X&ei=4DGATemBCaGM0QG6j9GTCQ&ved=0CDMQ1QIoAA&biw=1280&bih=556


http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/chernobyl-disaster


http://www.flickr.com/photos/chernobyl_children/sets/72157625163534030/

[Lonny]

How you like them apples you fucking non beleivers?!?!?!?!
go wax your carrot asshats

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/3/16/1300248917106/Japan-reactor-006.jpg

This photo released by Tokyo Electric Power Co shows damaged No 3 (right) and No 4 reactors of the Fukushima Daiichi power plant

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Fuck, looks like things are getting out of control.

From The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/)


4.13am: More bad news: Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said the radiation level at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant reached 10 millisievert per hour at one point on Wednesday morning, possibly due to the damage at its No 2 reactor the day before, the government's nuclear safety agency said.

The maximum level was measured at the plant's front gate at 10:40am. It fell to 6.4 millisievert at 10:45am and to 2.3 millisievert at 10:54am but rose again to about 3.4 millisievert at 11am according to Kyodo

4.36am: To make sense of all this, it appears that reactor no 4 was badly damaged by the hydrogen explosions in nearby reactors, and it is possible that the unit's water level has disappeared entirely.

Tepco said that water in a pool storing the spent fuel rods may be boiling and that its level may have dropped, exposing the rods. The government ordered the firm to inject water into the pool ''as soon as possible to avert a major nuclear disaster.''

Due to high radiation levels at the reactor, workers have been unable to pour water into the troubled pool.

4.50am: Japan's health ministry announced the rise in the legal radiation exposure limit because workers could no longer get close enough to the Fukushima Daiichi No 4 reactor for urgent attempts to repair the reactor's cooling system.

The ministry raised the level two and a half times, to 250 millseiverts.

Earlier, Kyodo news agency said 730 out of a total of 800 workers had been evacuated from the site.

"The workers cannot carry out even minimal work at the plant now," chief cabinet secretary Yukio Edano told a press conference. "Because of the radiation risk we are on standby."

5.21am (2.21pm JST): Seoul's Yonhap news agency is reporting that South Korea will send part of its reserve of boric acid - used to slow down fission reactions - to its neighbour. Japan has used up most of its own stockpile to try to cool down the reactor cores.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/78524.html


Status of quake-stricken reactors at Fukushima nuclear power plants

TOKYO, March 16, Kyodo

The following is the known status as of Wednesday afternoon of each of the six reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant and the four reactors at the Fukushima No. 2 plant, both in Fukushima Prefecture, which were crippled by Friday's magnitude 9.0 earthquake and the ensuing tsunami.

Fukushima No. 1 plant

-- Reactor No. 1 - Cooling failure, partial melting of core, vapor vented, building damaged Saturday by hydrogen explosion, seawater being pumped in.

-- Reactor No. 2 - Cooling failure, seawater being pumped in, fuel rods fully exposed temporarily, vapor vented, building damaged Monday by blast at Reactor No. 3, damage to containment vessel on Tuesday, potential meltdown feared.

-- Reactor No. 3 - Cooling failure, partial melting of core feared, vapor vented, seawater being pumped in, building damaged Monday by hydrogen explosion, high-level radiation measured nearby on Tuesday, plume of smoke observed Wednesday, damage to containment vessel likely.

-- Reactor No. 4 - Under maintenance when quake struck, fire Tuesday possibly caused by hydrogen explosion at pool holding spent fuel rods, pool water level not observed, fire observed Wednesday at building housing reactor, no water poured in to cool pool.

-- Reactor No. 5, No. 6 - Under maintenance when quake struck, temperature slightly rising in spent fuel pool.

Fukushima No. 2 plant

-- Reactor No. 1, No. 2, No. 4 - Cooling failure, then cold shutdown.

-- Reactor No. 3 - Cold shutdown.

Those 50 workers left behind working on the reactors, there's only one word to describe them: Heroes

[IronMaxipad]

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/78524.html



Those 50 workers left behind working on the reactors, there's only one word to describe them: Heroes

yep


The Fukushima 50: Not afraid to die
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/15/eveningnews/main20043554.shtml

[InRareForm]

Reuters Reuters Top News
FLASH: IAEA head says core damage at units 1-3 of Japan's quake-hit nuclear plant confirmed, situation very serious

[CosmicCowboy]

The good news is that I haven't heard Charlie Sheen's name on the news even once this week.

[BlackSwordsMan]

http://www.zamg.ac.at/pict/aktuell/20110315_fuku_Cs-137-glob_12.gif

[Cry Havoc]

European Union's energy chief says nuke plant is 'effectively out of control'.

[koriwhat]

Wow mouse, you're an idiot.

redundant statement.

[IronMaxipad]

http://i.imgur.com/MKadO.jpg

That was quick :wow

[mouse]

That was quick :wow

Send that pic to TXDOT

[mouse]

http://www.zamg.ac.at/pict/aktuell/20110315_fuku_Cs-137-glob_12.gif


Rack!

[IronMaxipad]

Dog in Japan stays by the side of its ailing friend in the rubble
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/dog-in-japan-stays-by-the-side-of-its-ailing-friend-in-the-rubble

J3TM9GL2iLI

:(

[mouse]

The dog is safer there than someones plate.

[BlackSwordsMan]

http://i.imgur.com/MKadO.jpg

That was quick :wow
japs > illegal mexican workers

[Lonny]

japs > illegal mexican workers
thats a fake pic! look to the left. there are no trees in the second pic. its bullshit.

[BlackSwordsMan]

classic mouse

[IronMaxipad]

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/jpq0316/s_j01_RTR2JW7L.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/jpq0316/s_j11_15140175.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/jpq0316/s_j15_RTR2JWDS.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/jpq0316/s_j24_RTR2JXX6.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/jpq0316/s_j35_RTR2JX0R.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/jpq0316/s_j36_RTR2JX15.jpg

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

XY7OGuRAu_I

What starts at 0:37...:depressed

[IronMaxipad]

The U.S. government is now offering evacuation services to Seoul and Taipei.

http://japan.usembassy.gov/e/acs/tacs-warden20110317-02.html

[usdane]

Weather Forecast for Southern California on Friday.

Radioactive Plume

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42119778

[mouse]

Soon it will hit Texas and the surrounding states. In the next 20 years 75% of Americans will have some sort of Cancer. But hey the bright side is NASA will have discovered another microscopic water Crystal on Mars.

[Cry Havoc]

In the next 20 years 75% of Americans will have some sort of Cancer.

And that will be different from pre-Fukushima, how?

[mouse]

And that will be different from pre-Fukushima, how?

Read my postings on dangers of Radiation dating back to 1996.

have fun picking the scabs off your penis when your 50.

[Cry Havoc]

Read my postings on dangers of Radiation dating back to 1996.

have fun picking the scabs off your penis when your 50.

If it gets that much use that it's scabbing over, so much the better.

[hater]

Six tons of Plutonium in reactor 4 - it takes only 0.015 tons to build a nuclear bomb. It takes only a single Plutonium Atom to cause cancer.

[Buddy Holly]

thats a fake pic! look to the left. there are no trees in the second pic. its bullshit.

No mouse, it's real.

Where the man is standing in the first picture is where the construction vehicles are in the second picture.

[Cry Havoc]

No mouse, it's real.

Where the man is standing in the first picture is where the construction vehicles are in the second picture.

Still a deceptive photo.

[MB20]

Power in the plants will be restored when?? It´s been 6 days now...
I don´t know why they can´t find a way to restore power or bring auxiliar equipment.

[mouse]

If it gets that much use that it's scabbing over, so much the better.

The only reason you see news journalist still in japan other than most of them are worried about ratings instead of their health is the radiation that the meters detect on their shoes they are told is harmless and to wash it off.

The problem with radiation as i have been saying for decades is it's not what the radio shack meters detect that is the problem it's the shit you breath that the meters don't detect that will give you cancer.

If the news media would go back to using film instead of digital they would see the radiation all around them as you can see what radiation does to film on the photo I have provided.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/radiation.jpg

[rascal]

thats a fake pic! look to the left. there are no trees in the second pic. its bullshit.

Go down the road aways and then you will be at the same spot as the first photo. You can see the green sign line up with the power tower if you go down the road in the 2nd photo. The trees on the right are also across the road when you get closer to that green sign in the 2nd photo.

[Cry Havoc]

Power in the plants will be restored when?? It´s been 6 days now...
I don´t know why they can´t find a way to restore power or bring auxiliar equipment.

The generators are flooded. They're done. Those plants will never power on again.

They also provide their own power. No aux equipment is going to get them working again.

[MB20]

The generators are flooded. They're done. Those plants will never power on again.

They also provide their own power. No aux equipment is going to get them working again.

While authorities continued to grapple with the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 power plant, efforts to bring electricity to the plant also accelerated in a bid to restore the lost cooling functions in many of its reactors following last Friday’s earthquake and tsunami that crippled the plant.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/massive-water-injection-planned-for-fukushimas-no-3-reactor

[Cry Havoc]

While authorities continued to grapple with the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 power plant, efforts to bring electricity to the plant also accelerated in a bid to restore the lost cooling functions in many of its reactors following last Friday’s earthquake and tsunami that crippled the plant.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/massive-water-injection-planned-for-fukushimas-no-3-reactor

Correct. They're trying to get power to the workers so that they don't have to fight the crisis in the dark and to get some sort of pumping mechanism so that they can have a continuous supply of water.

[Cry Havoc]

From wikipedia:
It is possible that a new powerline to the complex will revive some of the electric cooling system pumps that have failed.[54]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-japan-quake-daiichi-20110317,0,5721172.story?track=rss

Again, the nuclear cores will never return to functioning status. You flood them with seawater, you kill them off permanently. Notice they say, "Getting electricity to the plant", not "bringing the plant back online to operating capacity".

[mouse]

That shit is already in the air. Even if you had a huge lid made by Rubbermaid and covered the whole plant the amount of radiation that has escaped is enough to contaminate the earth 5 times over.

Most of it will find it's way into the soil after the rains and many farm animals will digest the contaminated products produced by the concatenated soil. So unless you can avoid consuming,milk,eggs,meat,bread,fast food, produce, and avoid facet water for the next 35 years your fucked.

happy saint patty's day! :toast

[Cry Havoc]

Panic! It's science!

:lol

[MB20]

From wikipedia:
It is possible that a new powerline to the complex will revive some of the electric cooling system pumps that have failed.[54]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-japan-quake-daiichi-20110317,0,5721172.story?track=rss

Again, the nuclear cores will never return to functioning status. You flood them with seawater, you kill them off permanently. Notice they say, "Getting electricity to the plant", not "bringing the plant back online to operating capacity".

Well, I guess restoring power to the cooling system is the goal.
I don´t care if those plants will be operational ever again.
The most important thing right now is to cool that stuff down.

[hater]

Power in the plants will be restored when?? It´s been 6 days now...
I don´t know why they can´t find a way to restore power or bring auxiliar equipment.


Well, I guess restoring power to the cooling system is the goal.
I don´t care if those plants will be operational ever again.
The most important thing right now is to cool that stuff down.



4 of the 6 reactors cooling systems are "damaged"

Regardless of power or not. It will be weeks before the situation is called "under control"

[mouse]

They need to encase that site with lead.

radiation levels 25 years later.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/09/Chernobyl-Today-A-Creepy-Story-told-in-Pictures-radation.jpg

[hater]

They need to incase that site with lead.

won't help. radiation will seep through the underground to soil and water sources.

[hater]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/17/article-1367309-0B3899BB00000578-493_472x317.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/17/article-1367309-0B38576C00000578-18_964x676.jpg

[CosmicCowboy]

The blackouts are voluntary and not mandatory.

[mouse]

won't help. radiation will seep through the underground to soil and water sources.

well to encase I was talking about tunneling underneath like they did at Chernobyl laying the base then using the lead. but even if they was to just cover it with lead it will cut down on the airborne radiation levels to the point were we don't have anymore deadly skies over Texas.

What people don't realize is the plumes of smoke from Chernobyl and the fires were put out sooner so the world only had to deal with a smaller radioactive cloud. The japan exposure is like Chernobyl happening again and again as long as they allow it to burn. So this radiation will be enough for not only our planet but many other planets in the solar system.

And some of you still want to find life on another planet why, so we can show them how to die faster?

[Cry Havoc]

well to encase I was talking about tunneling underneath like they did at Chernobyl laying the base then using the lead. but even if they was to just cover it with lead it will cut down on the airborne radiation levels to the point were we don't have anymore deadly skies over Texas.

What. The fuck.

You have absolutely no idea of what you're saying. Just stop talking.


What people don't realize is the plumes of smoke from Chernobyl and the fires were put out sooner so the world only had to deal with a smaller radioactive cloud. The japan exposure is like Chernobyl happening again and again as long as they allow it to burn. So this radiation will be enough for not only our planet but many other planets in the solar system.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[mouse]

Just stop talking.



Don't tell people on the www what to do, your really not a good bully don't try to pretend to be.

I will post a video of the Chernobyl workers tunneling under the plant to lay a base then i will show you a video of them covering the plant with lead and cement.

(heads up) wash your feet as you will have inserted your foot in your mouth once again.

[mouse]

film has been found on HD in basement. need to splice the parts needed then upload online.

[CosmicCowboy]

Mouse, did you win the lottery? Your posts sound like coke rambling/paranoia today....

[mouse]

the first video of miners tunneling under the Chernobyl reactor.


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/th_miners-dig-under-reactor.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=miners-dig-under-reactor.mp4)

[mouse]

reactor covered in cement.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/th_covered-reactor.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=covered-reactor.mp4)

[mouse]

well to encase I was talking about tunneling underneath like they did at Chernobyl laying the base then using the lead.

video of lead being placed in the hole.


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/th_lead-being-dropped.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=lead-being-dropped.mp4)

[MB20]

Efforts are also accelerating to restore lost cooling function by reconnecting electricity to the plant through outside power lines, with workers trying to recover power at the plant’s No. 1 and No. 2 reactors later Friday and at the No. 3 and No. 4 reactors by Sunday, Nishiyama said.

Some of the power distribution boards at the plant have been damaged by the quake-triggered tsunami and TEPCO will use makeshift replacement equipment, he added.

[carina_gino20]

Well, burying it in sand and concrete is now actually being mentioned:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/wl_nm/us_japan_quake

[hater]

Well, burying it in sand and concrete is now actually being mentioned:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/wl_nm/us_japan_quake


:lmao

mouse regulated up in here

[Cry Havoc]

As I posted in the poli forum, that's only possible to do if it's sufficiently cooled so that the fuel won't melt through the concrete. Mouse was simply regurgitating information from the Chernobyl disaster without knowing anything about it. Completely different scenarios.

Also, laying a foundation of concrete under the plant isn't to prevent spread of radiation, it's to try to slow down the molten core from punching through the ground and into the water table.

[carina_gino20]

What the 9.0 earthquake sounded like:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110318/ts_yblog_thelookout/listen-to-japans-massive-quake

[mouse]

Mouse was simply regurgitating information from the Chernobyl disaster without knowing anything about it.

Is there another nuclear accident I should have used to learn about something that has not happened? How can someone talk about a subject if there is no evidence it ever took place? You guys get to talk about Evolution, the Bible thumper's talk about Noah's ark with no real evidence but some books, and I can't talk about a subject that had actual video?

WTF is wrong with some of you? Instead of Cry Havoc just giving props were they may be due he continues to stay firm and join hands with the other lame mouse haters and ride the raft of ignorance down the river of stupidity.



Completely different scenarios.
.

So true neither one involved nuclear reactor damage or radiation leaks.

how does your foot taste?

[koriwhat]

gotta love all the expert takes in this thread. what a bunch of chumps yall are.

[mouse]

gotta love all the expert takes in this thread. what a bunch of chumps yall are.

look everyone a koriwhat sighting!

What happened you couldn't get laid not even on spring break?

It's not to late put the 1999 HP desktop on stand by open the door to Mom's basement and grab bus ticket to Padre Island get you some fresh pussy holmes!

don't for get the duck tape and Ether this time. :tu

[koriwhat]

look everyone a koriwhat sighting!

What happened you couldn't get laid not even on spring break?

It's not to late put the 1999 HP desktop on stand by open the door to Mom's basement and grab bus ticket to Padre Island get you some fresh pussy holmes!

don't for get the duck tape and Ether this time. :tu

mouse, you're a horribly bad wannabe comedian... when i say horribly, i mean, fuckin' pathetic!

my spring break has been used to meet with clients and study for my lab test this coming monday, pussy is the least of my concerns right now.

as for that 99 hp desktop, homie i don't dumpster dive like you, i own a beautiful 24" imac.

wake up old man!

btw, i like how you capitalized Padre Island but the rest of your grammar is complete shit. mine is shit too but i don't go out of my way to act all grammatically correct just to make 100 more errors in the same sentence. guess my GED is better than yours.

[BlackSwordsMan]

kori got japan tattooed on his shins to commemorate this tragic event
great fucking human being :cry

[koriwhat]

kori got japan tattooed on his shins to commemorate this tragic event
great fucking human being :cry

fuck that shit, only logos homie! i got the nissan logo on my shins.

[mouse]

mouse, you're a horribly bad wannabe comedian... when i say horribly, i mean, fuckin' pathetic!

my spring break has been used to meet with clients and study for my lab test this coming monday, pussy is the least of my concerns right now.

as for that 99 hp desktop, homie i don't dumpster dive like you, i own a beautiful 24" imac.

wake up old man!

btw, i like how you capitalized Padre Island but the rest of your grammar is complete shit. mine is shit too but i don't go out of my way to act all grammatically correct just to make 100 more errors in the same sentence. guess my GED is better than yours.

weak......come on brah, I know your rusty but Dam! you got's to have better smack than that shit dude!

yo dawg next time your driving through Japan stick your legs out the window maybe the radiation can help burn off those calve tats! :tu

[Wild Cobra]

From the USGS (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/):

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/degree10/140_40.gif (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_40.php)

Red = last hour
Blue = last day
Yellow = last week

larger the box, larger the quake.

[IronMaxipad]

New tsunami wave footage from a ship at sea:
rUED6HeGJ7w
:wow

[symple19]

Dangerous breach suspected at Japanese nuke plant

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_JAPAN_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-03-25-05-25-49

[mouse]

Enjoy your orange juice with your California avocado salad!

The sad part about educating people about the "real" effects to Radiation is, by the time I finally do? They are already picking the radioactive scabs off their ass.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/th_more-digging.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=more-digging.mp4)

[symple19]

Here ya go, mouse http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_JAPAN_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-03-27-07-32-39


Emergency workers struggling to pump contaminated water from Japan's stricken nuclear complex fled one of the troubled reactors Sunday after reporting a huge spike in radioactivity, with levels 10 million times higher than normal in the reactor's cooling system, officials said.

[mouse]

I'm sorry Symple19 but me trying to educate the ignorant in this topic is not worth it anymore. See you guys in 5 years have fun trying to hide the skin sores on your radioactive taints.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Damn. A 6.5 earthquake off the coast of japan. Small tsunami alert issued.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Damn. A 6.5 earthquake off the coast of japan. Small tsunami alert issued.

link?

[Pistons < Spurs]

- Authorities issued a tsunami advisory Monday morning for coastal areas of Miyagi Prefecture in northeastern Japan after a 6.5-magnitude quake struck the region, the Japan Meteorological Agency said.
The agency said the tsunami height was expected to be about 0.5 meters, or 1.6 feet, tall. Japanese broadcaster NHK reported that the tsunami was believed to have passed. Video of the coastal area in the tsunami zone broadcast by NHK showed slight ripples to the water, which "could be indicative of rises" in water levels, CNN meteorologist Jacqui Jeras said.
The Monday temblor was located near the site of the 9.0-magnitude March 11 earthquake that triggered a massive tsunami, killing thousands and spawning a nuclear emergency at a severely damaged power plant in Fukushima Prefecture.
The 7:24 a.m. earthquake struck Monday about 70 miles east of Sendai at a depth of 3.7 miles, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.
A Pacific-wide destructive tsunami is not expected, the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/27/japan.tsunami.advisory/index.html?hpt=T2

[koriwhat]

I'm sorry Symple19 but me trying to educate the ignorant in this topic is not worth it anymore. See you guys in 5 years have fun trying to hide the skin sores on your radioactive taints.

the ignorant, you, can't educate. plain and simple, period.

[silverblk mystix]

Anybody seen this video of the Tsunami????

Mother Nature...wow...

_b-2iByqHVI&feature=player_embedded

[mouse]

Radioactive milk found on West Coast






Drinks on me!

http://www.coated.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/milk-glass-led-lamp.jpg

[Agloco]

Radioactive milk found on West Coast

Drinks on me!

http://www.coated.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/milk-glass-led-lamp.jpg

:rolleyes

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/0331/Radioactive-milk-found-on-West-Coast-but-levels-are-minuscule

Thought I'd find another gem of yours in here.....

Some quotes from the article:


But the amount of radioactive iodine-131 detected in milk is more than 5,000 times lower than what the FDA calls the “Derived Intervention Level” – the concentration of radionuclide activity adopted by the FDA to help determine whether domestically-produced food or food imported into the US presents a safety concern.

That translates to levels on the picocurie level or in terms of nuclear decays (disintegrations) per second (bequerels) its roughly one per 5.5 seconds. I'm too lazy today to look up gamma constants for a quick dose rate calc. Sorry.

1 Ci (curie) = 3.7 x 10^10 Bequerels (Bq)

Pico = 1 x 10^-12 (ie one trillionth of one)

Also, keep in mind that I-131 concentrates in milk. The levels found there will be substantially higher than in other foods/drinks.


“According to them, a pint of milk at these levels would expose an individual to less radiation than would a five-hour airplane flight,” Gov. Gregoire said. “Since the situation in Japan we have been monitoring for radiation. We will continue our monitoring and work closely with the EPA, FDA and CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention]. At no point have detection levels come close to levels of concern.”

[mouse]

Cheers mate!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/raditation-mouse-milk.gif

[Smart Ass]

Cheers mate!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/raditation-mouse-milk.gif

You sure know how to milk a topic.

[mouse]

You sure know how to milk a topic.

I have to when dealing with someone who is already Homogenized

[Agloco]

Cheers mate!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/raditation-mouse-milk.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation

Cerenkov radiation is blue actually. The beta from I 131 is quite energetic (606.3 kev). Wonder if you could see it with milk being turbid and all..... interesting.


I have to when dealing with someone who is already Homogenized

Cute. Talk to yourself much?

[mouse]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation

Cerenkov radiation is blue actually. The beta from I 131 is quite energetic (606.3 kev). Wonder if you could see it with milk being turbid and all..... interesting.

How about you grab your pocket slide rule you carry around like that unused rubber in your 1997 Velcro wallet Uncle Leo gave you and maybe find a cow. You can then put your scientific background to use instead of TRolling the forums. (heads up)

If I was a "Scientist" I would to be busy conducting experiments to help maybe cure a deadly disease or try to warn people about the dangers of radiation, and maybe not tell them this radioactive Milk is the same as using Scope mouthwash



Cute. Talk to yourself much?

Sometimes you have to if you really want "Intelligent" conversations.

Why whats up in the politics forum you cut and paste another book?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MAllen-Radiation.jpg

[Wild Cobra]

If I was a "Scientist" I would to be busy conducting experiments to help maybe cure a deadly disease or try to warn people about the dangers of radiation, and maybe not tell them this radioactive Milk is the same as using Scope mouthwash

If you had more knowledge on these topics, you wouldn't be speaking so ignorant about them.

You fail to understand how man made it to the moon, and believe it's all a conspiracy. Think anyone with a scientific mind takes you serious?

Hint... They did use slide rules.

[mouse]

And you fail to warn everyone about the radiation that is now in the food and drink department like i said it would be so who here needs to be educated?

Ps: feel free to slide that ruler up your online degree tight ass esse.

[Wild Cobra]

And you fail to warn everyone about the radiation that is now in the food and drink department like i said it would be so who here needs to be educated?

Ps: feel free to slide that ruler up your online degree tight ass esse.
Did the fact that the levels tested are ridiculously low, and lower than background radiation mean anything to you?

So what. They tested levels of Iodine-131 that is... what was it? 20 pico curies?

Wow....

That really is bothersome. Stick those bananas up your tailpipe why don't you.

7e3TYKOVCM0

[mouse]

Did the fact that the levels tested are ridiculously low, and lower than background radiation mean anything to you?

So what. They tested levels of Iodine-131 that is... what was it? 20 pico curies?

You and Erkel just don't get it. There is no such thing as "safe" amount of "nuclear Radiation" This is not the tanning booth or Xray machines this shit kills biooch!




Wow....

That really is bothersome. Stick those bananas up your tailpipe why don't you.

7e3TYKOVCM0



Rack!

:lmao

[Agloco]

How about you grab your pocket slide rule you carry around like that unused rubber in your 1997 Velcro wallet Uncle Leo gave you and maybe find a cow. You can then put your scientific background to use instead of TRolling the forums. (heads up)

And we're supposed to take your "warnings" seriously. :lol



If I was a "Scientist" I would to be busy conducting experiments to help maybe cure a deadly disease or try to warn people about the dangers of radiation, and maybe not tell them this radioactive Milk is the same as using Scope mouthwash

We do, every day. Unfortunately you don't listen to the "experts" so what would you know of it anyway?

lol scopolamine



Sometimes you have to if you really want agreeable conversations

fify



Why whats up in the politics forum you cut and paste another book?

I've helped to write more than a few book chapters in my time. Can you claim the same?

[CosmicCowboy]

Hey Mouse...you know that contract SAWs just signed to pump water from the Carizzo aquifer to San Antonio? That stuff is radioactive...my ranchito is in the Carrizo upthrust and those aquifer sands have MINABLE quantities of uranium in them.

http://www.signalequities.com/Images/tmraMap3.jpg

[JoeChalupa]

Green eggs and ham!!!

[CosmicCowboy]

Green eggs and ham!!!

LOL...one more thing for Mouse to worry about when he finally gets up and stumbles to his computer...

[mouse]

Hey Mouse...you know that contract SAWs just signed to pump water from the Carizzo aquifer to San Antonio? That stuff is radioactive...my ranchito is in the Carrizo upthrust and those aquifer sands have MINABLE quantities of uranium in them.



The Charts don't lie.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/education-chart.jpg

[CosmicCowboy]

Uhhh Mouse...no shit. Seriously.

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/dku01

See those little yellow diamonds on the map I posted in Wilson/Gonzales County? Those are mine/processors extracting uranium from the carizzo sands...and thats where our new water supply is coming from...I shit you not. The water at the ranchito in that same belt of aquifer sands will set off a sensitive geiger counter.

[mouse]

LOL...one more thing for Mouse to worry about when he finally gets up and stumbles to his computer...

Don't confuse worrying with being alert. If you get a knock at your door that there is a rabid pit bull lose in the area do you tell your 10 year old kid to come inside or do you just tell the person at the door that they worry to much and show them a chart on deaths due to pit bulls in your area?

I bet those parents who gave there 3 year old a glass of warm milk last week wished I posted in they're forums.

Now their child may become retarded and have to move to Texas.

After which they get involved in sports and eventually find ST where they create a screen name and start posting shit that pisses you off then your going to regret the day you ridiculed me.


What WOAI won't show on the news.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/th_MAllenArt-radiation.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=MAllenArt-radiation.mp4)

[Wild Cobra]

You and Erkel just don't get it. There is no such thing as "safe" amount of "nuclear Radiation" This is not the tanning booth or Xray machines this shit kills biooch!

Well then. Sorry you live in fear everyday. Any idea how much atomic based radiation is all around us, 24/7?

[CosmicCowboy]

Hey rodent, heres your link to the SAWs radioactive water deal...

http://www.saws.org/latest_news/NewsDrill.cfm?news_id=734

[mouse]

Uhhh Mouse...no shit. Seriously.

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/dku01

See those little yellow diamonds on the map I posted in Wilson/Gonzales County? Those are mine/processors extracting uranium from the carizzo sands...and thats where our new water supply is coming from...I shit you not. The water at the ranchito in that same belt of aquifer sands will set off a sensitive geiger counter.

That sounds like Uranium 235

First off I don't drink water from the faucet and I have always posted were Bexar county water is always getting contaminated with raw sewage and we only find out 15% of the time.

I was told I need to loosen my tin foil hat. Second of all the radiation you speak of is not Uranium 238 from japan that will kill you quicker.

[mouse]

Well then. Sorry you live in fear everyday.

Stop confusing people who's light bulb goes on faster than the average redneck as fear. Just because certain people you come in contact with that are "intelligent" enough to use life preservers,seat belts, condoms,eye goggles and helmets doesn't mean they are "scared worried or nervous" they are people who practice safety. Next time you see a coach with a defibrillator go tell him or her to stop being so worried. Call him Chicken little, and tell him to bad him and his players live in fear everyday.

See how you look at feel at the end of the day.



Any idea how much atomic based radiation is all around us, 24/7?


It's not how much radiation you guys find in everyday water rocks x-ray machines that I am talking about here, it's plutonium 239 that is leaking from the damaged nuclear reactor is what my posts are about so try and educate yourself on the different "types" of Radiation and side effects before you talk smack also don't compare the effects of a damaged nuclear reactor to the same effects of a cell phone. It makes you look bad.
(unless your Ann Coulter )

nVLpSLtSiww

[Wild Cobra]

And I believe this is the first time you mentioned plutonium.

I didn't know that 70's reactor design was a breeder reactor.

Link please.

[mouse]

And I believe this is the first time you mentioned plutonium.

I didn't know that 70's reactor design was a breeder reactor.

Link please.


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MAllen-Radiataion.jpg

[Wild Cobra]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MAllen-Radiataion.jpg
That pic doesn't say shit about plutonium.

[CosmicCowboy]

And I believe this is the first time you mentioned plutonium.

I didn't know that 70's reactor design was a breeder reactor.

Link please.

WC, I hit on this just a couple of days after the earthquake. Check out MOX fuel. They just loaded reactor 3 with it last fall. If you want to search here I posted several links.

[Wild Cobra]

WC, I hit on this just a couple of days after the earthquake. Check out MOX fuel. They just loaded reactor 3 with it last fall. If you want to search here I posted several links.
OK, that's right.

Still, I cannot take anything Chicken Little says as credible.

Not much plutonium in it now, is there.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the fuel has been found outside the reactor.

[CosmicCowboy]

The fuel may still be in the reactor but the reactor and the containment vessel are clearly breached. The problem is cooling it. Spray water in to cool the rods and highly contaminated water pours out. They are essentially washing the plutonium out of the reactor with no way to decontaminate it. It's a shitty situation.

[Wild Cobra]

The fuel may still be in the reactor but the reactor and the containment vessel are clearly breached. The problem is cooling it. Spray water in to cool the rods and highly contaminated water pours out. They are essentially washing the plutonium out of the reactor with no way to decontaminate it. It's a shitty situation.
Can you show me the chemistry equations that allow the fuel to be washed out please.

[ChuckD]

Can you show me the chemistry equations that allow the fuel to be washed out please.

Really?

Sometimes I have a really hard time figuring out if you're a troll account or not.

Water is nature's great solvent and carrier, and tends to take whatever it is on, or whatever is in it, with it when it outflows. The water doesn't have to chemically bond with the plutonium to wash it out of the containment core.

[Agloco]

And I believe this is the first time you mentioned plutonium.

I didn't know that 70's reactor design was a breeder reactor.

Link please.

I'll give you three:

1) The basics, and why they were conceived in the first place:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-do-fast-breeder-react

2) On page 12 of this pdf there is a table which shows the major breeder reactors and when they were operational (and which ones still are).

http://www.fissilematerials.org/ipfm/site_down/rr08.pdf

3) For you ecomonics buffs, one with a more geophysical/economic slant:

http://www.sustainablenuclear.org/PADs/pad11983cohen.pdf


OK, that's right.

Still, I cannot take anything Chicken Little says as credible.

Not much plutonium in it now, is there.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the fuel has been found outside the reactor.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12946951

A quote:


Radioactive water is leaking into the sea from a 20-centimetre (8-inch) crack in a containment pit at Japan's quake-hit Fukushima nuclear plant, its operator Tepco has said.

If there's a similar crack in the containment vessel at reactor 3, it wouldn't surprise me to see Pu239 in the immediate vicinity.


Can you show me the chemistry equations that allow the fuel to be washed out please.

Sure......

Under normal circumstances, metallic Zirconium (Zr) doesn't react with air (very quickly that is). At high temps though (like those found in a meltdown or partial meltdown) it will react quickly through the following reaction:

Zr + 2 H2O → ZrO2 + 2 H2

Two major things because of this:

1) The hydrogen gas (H2) which was released mixed with O2 to cause the explosions which tore the outer roofs off of the reactors.

2) About 10-20% of the hydrogen gas then recats directly with the zirconium to form Zn-hydrides. Those hydrides have significantly less tensile strength than the metal, and the cladding weakens (we call it embrittlement) causing the fuel inside to be exposed to the environment.

So because of the explosion and the weakened state of the cladding, we have a situation where seawater is being sprayed DIRECTLY onto the fuel.

Understand that when created, the fuel is sintered into fine pellets. Now that those pellets are exposed to continuous and copious amounts of seawater being sprayed on them, they fall off and to the bottom of the containment vessel.

Unfortunately with an 8 inch crack, this means that those pellets are now free to the environment.

[Agloco]

Water is nature's great solvent and carrier, and tends to take whatever it is on, or whatever is in it, with it when it outflows. The water doesn't have to chemically bond with the plutonium to wash it out of the containment core.

:tu

[mouse]

Hats off to Agloco the man knows more than those so called experts on NBC nightly news.

Major Racks! :toast

I wish he would face off with Ann Coulter that bitch needs to be educated, as well as Wild Coca.

Agloco great links! :tu

[Wild Cobra]

Really?

Sometimes I have a really hard time figuring out if you're a troll account or not.

Water is nature's great solvent and carrier, and tends to take whatever it is on, or whatever is in it, with it when it outflows. The water doesn't have to chemically bond with the plutonium to wash it out of the containment core.
Deionized water is. It is like a sponge, but can only soak up so much. Most water in nature has little ability to take up more. The concentrations would be so low of any uranium or plutonium... is it worth mentioning?

[Wild Cobra]

Well, the 8 inch crack is yesterdays news, isn't it? Is that long, or wide...

I was speaking on the metallic uranium or plutonium entering the water. Isn't most the radioactivity we see in the water other short lived radiative elements, from exposure to the fuel?

I'm not trying to say the immediate area is or will be safe. I just think this whole thing is blown out of proportion, like the Iodine-131 in milk.

As for the MOX fuel, it was mentioned and I forgot that they were recycling.

[Wild Cobra]

Skimmed the material you linked. May read it later. Please note, I was thinking of the breeder reactor design that changes uranium to plutonium. The power plants in trouble were not designed as breeders, and that was my point. Using MOX is not the same as a breeder.

[TE]

I'll give you three:

1) The basics, and why they were conceived in the first place:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-do-fast-breeder-react

2) On page 12 of this pdf there is a table which shows the major breeder reactors and when they were operational (and which ones still are).

http://www.fissilematerials.org/ipfm/site_down/rr08.pdf

3) For you ecomonics buffs, one with a more geophysical/economic slant:

http://www.sustainablenuclear.org/PADs/pad11983cohen.pdf




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12946951

A quote:



If there's a similar crack in the containment vessel at reactor 3, it wouldn't surprise me to see Pu239 in the immediate vicinity.



Sure......

Under normal circumstances, metallic Zirconium (Zr) doesn't react with air (very quickly that is). At high temps though (like those found in a meltdown or partial meltdown) it will react quickly through the following reaction:

Zr + 2 H2O → ZrO2 + 2 H2

Two major things because of this:

1) The hydrogen gas (H2) which was released mixed with O2 to cause the explosions which tore the outer roofs off of the reactors.

2) About 10-20% of the hydrogen gas then recats directly with the zirconium to form Zn-hydrides. Those hydrides have significantly less tensile strength than the metal, and the cladding weakens (we call it embrittlement) causing the fuel inside to be exposed to the environment.

So because of the explosion and the weakened state of the cladding, we have a situation where seawater is being sprayed DIRECTLY onto the fuel.

Understand that when created, the fuel is sintered into fine pellets. Now that those pellets are exposed to continuous and copious amounts of seawater being sprayed on them, they fall off and to the bottom of the containment vessel.

Unfortunately with an 8 inch crack, this means that those pellets are now free to the environment.

Good stuff. Are you a chemist?

[Wild Cobra]

Good stuff. Are you a chemist?
Obviously more than just a chemist.

Agloco...

Do you know what this is:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Misc/PID.jpg

[TE]

Obviously more than just a chemist.

Agloco...

Do you know what this is:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Misc/PID.jpg

:lol

[Agloco]

Obviously more than just a chemist.

Agloco...

Do you know what this is:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Misc/PID.jpg

Some process which incorporates scalar, integral and derivative components. "t" probably stands for time since the integral is taken on the positive domain and the differential is first order. Beyond that, no clue.


Good stuff. Are you a chemist?

Physiologist/Physicist. In my younger days I worked in reactor design and operation.


Well, the 8 inch crack is yesterdays news, isn't it? Is that long, or wide...

I don't know. Not that it matters though. With the amount of water being pumped in there's constant agitation and mixing. The pellets will find their way out of the smallest cracks.


I was speaking on the metallic uranium or plutonium entering the water. Isn't most the radioactivity we see in the water other short lived radiative elements, from exposure to the fuel?

At this point yes.

http://files.blog-city.com/files/A05/141484/p/f/1_isotope_contamination.jpg

As you can see from the chart as this carries on, the contribution to dose will eventually become solely a function of the longest lived gamma emitter(s). In this case Cs-137 (T 1/2 = 30yr). This will occur regardless of the situation now.


I'm not trying to say the immediate area is or will be safe. I just think this whole thing is blown out of proportion, like the Iodine-131 in milk.

Without getting too technical, you can think of this as a case of mixed secular equilibrium. Why? Well because there's a continuous new supply of radionuclides entering the system (the sea). As long as that's the case, there's continuous dose being given. It matters not what the source is (long or short lived entities) at that point. What matters then is the dose rate wherever people are living. We simply don't have enough info on that to make a determination on whether or not this is being blown out of proportion. ALARA (as low as reasonably achievable) must be used in any case to protect civilians and workers in that case.


Skimmed the material you linked. May read it later. Please note, I was thinking of the breeder reactor design that changes uranium to plutonium. The power plants in trouble were not designed as breeders, and that was my point. Using MOX is not the same as a breeder.

I guess I misunderstood what you meant. You said:


I didn't know that 70's reactor design was a breeder reactor.

My info was geared to show that breeder reactors were in fact designed and built in the 70's. If you were referring to the Fukushima plants specifically, then yes you're correct.

[Wild Cobra]

Some process which incorporates scalar, integral and derivative components. "t" probably stands for time since the integral is taken on the positive domain and the differential is first order. Beyond that, no clue.

Correct.

It's a basic PID loop algorithm. Proportional, Integral, Differential. It is used for moving mass with motors quickly, having fast controlled accelerations and decelerations, and avoid overshooting and oscillations. Tuning the variables can be a bitch in a three or four axis robot. It can also be used in pressure control systems of fluidics or pneumatics. I worked on semiconductor process equipment as an engineering technician. Best job I ever had. I was doing the engineering testing and working with the designers, in a rapid research and development environment. The equipment used it for the robots moving the wafers, and the pneumatics controlling the process pressures. The PID was part of the robot controller, but the engineers had to design the controls for the pneumatics. The robots still had to be tuned for our application and mass of the end effector we used.

[Wild Cobra]

I guess I misunderstood what you meant. You said:

I didn't know that 70's reactor design was a breeder reactor.
My info was geared to show that breeder reactors were in fact designed and built in the 70's. If you were referring to the Fukushima plants specifically, then yes you're correct.
Yes, I meant that specific reactor design.

[ChuckD]

Deionized water is. It is like a sponge, but can only soak up so much. Most water in nature has little ability to take up more. The concentrations would be so low of any uranium or plutonium... is it worth mentioning?

Forget about chemical bonding. Was the tsunami deionized? That sure picked up some shit and carried it.

The water being flushed into the reactor is the same thing on a smaller scale. Smaller "wave", smaller "stuff".

[Cry Havoc]

Happening right now 4/7

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0002ksa.php

7.4 off the coast. Tsunami warning issued.

[Cry Havoc]

Workers evacuate Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant after 7.4-magnitude quake, Tokyo Electric Power Company says.

[Venti Quattro]

Holy shit Japan hasn't even recovered yet.

[CosmicCowboy]

Only a 6' wave projected. Everything it could hurt is already fucked up.

[Cry Havoc]

Only a 6' wave projected. Everything it could hurt is already fucked up.

It's not a wave, it's a tsunami. These are completely, completely different things.

http://i.imgur.com/JiYMH.jpg?903

This is a wave. It has a crest and a break, and hits the shore, loses energy, and dissolves.

http://i.imgur.com/Z4zre.jpg?8711

This is a tsunami. As it approaches the coast, the energy built from the earthquake reflects the water upward. It lifts the entire ocean water level. When it hits land, it just keeps pushing forward until the entire wavelength behind the water piles onto itself and submerges anything that's not above the height of the tsunami.

[JudynTX]

WTF is going on???



A 6.5 earthquake rattled Mexico on Thursday morning.

The quake occurred in the Vera Cruz region at 6:11 a.m. The quake was felt strongly in Chiapas and other parts of southeast Mexico. But the U.S. Geological Survey said it was not felt in the United States or along the California-Mexico border region.

There were no immediate reports of injuries or damage.

The quake was about 379 miles from Mexico City.



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/04/65-earthquake-shake-southern-mexico.html

[CosmicCowboy]

It's not a wave, it's a tsunami. These are completely, completely different things.

http://i.imgur.com/JiYMH.jpg?903

This is a wave. It has a crest and a break, and hits the shore, loses energy, and dissolves.

http://i.imgur.com/Z4zre.jpg?8711

This is a tsunami. As it approaches the coast, the energy built from the earthquake reflects the water upward. It lifts the entire ocean water level. When it hits land, it just keeps pushing forward until the entire wavelength behind the water piles onto itself and submerges anything that's not above the height of the tsunami.

Oh, I get that, but the last one was 30'...this one won't go anywhere that isn't already fucked up. Their sea walls etc are designed to cope with a 6 footer easily.

[Wild Cobra]

WTF is going on???




http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/04/65-earthquake-shake-southern-mexico.html
It's called "The Ring of Fire" for a reason.

[Agloco]

Video of the Tsunami hittiing Fukshima:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/09/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?iref=obnetwork

[Pistons < Spurs]

cnn:


japan nuclear agency "provisionally" raises threat level from stricken power plant from 5 to 7, the most severe category.

[phxspurfan]

Yup, looks like they're probably gonna go the concrete sarcophagus route like Chernobyl (I'm guessing).

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T1

Btw here's a couple slides I had of the BWR designs that they're using in Fukushima. They're an accepted standard design from last century with a lot of safeguards, including multiple feet of concrete walls. But of course nothing covers a tsunami AND an earthquake and a power outage. And if something did cover all of those from a safety standpoint, the building would be too expensive to build/run.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_8UFJKqNl5JI/TaQBeeTY7hI/AAAAAAAAC4s/G2OjGB3xh-U/BWR.jpg

They're having trouble keeping the spent fuel pool/s cool also:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_8UFJKqNl5JI/TaQCt-ZJe9I/AAAAAAAAC40/A1Q6SjjuHrw/spent%20fuel.jpg

[Agloco]

From CNN today:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T1



Japan declared the Fukushima Daiichi crisis a Level 7 event on the international system for rating nuclear accidents Tuesday, putting it on par with the 1986 Chernobyl disaster in the former Soviet Union. The top-scale designation was based on the massive release of radioactivity since the accident began, particularly in its early days, and classifies Fukushima Daiichi a "major accident" requiring long-term countermeasures.

:depressed

[leemajors]

http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2011/04/12/fukushima-meltd.php

lots of bs in here tbh, but still unsettling.

[Wild Cobra]

From CNN today:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T1


Japan declared the Fukushima Daiichi crisis a Level 7 event on the international system for rating nuclear accidents Tuesday, putting it on par with the 1986 Chernobyl disaster in the former Soviet Union. The top-scale designation was based on the massive release of radioactivity since the accident began, particularly in its early days, and classifies Fukushima Daiichi a "major accident" requiring long-term countermeasures.

:depressed
Yes, but my understanding is that there are no new hazards to cause the upgrade. They simply decided to combine all the reactors incidents and treat is as one incident.

[mouse]

Yup, looks like they're probably gonna go the concrete sarcophagus route like Chernobyl

About a month to late.

[Pistons < Spurs]

A major earthquake struck off the northeastern coast of Japan Sunday, prompting tsunami advisories for several coastal regions, the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) said.
The U.S. Geological Survey said the earthquake struck at 10:57 a.m. at the epicenter, about 130 miles east of Sendai.
The earthquake was more than 20 miles deep and had a magnitude of 7.0, the USGS said.
The JMA measured the magnitude of the quake at 7.1.
Tsunami advisories were issued for the coastal regions of Iwate, Miyagi and Fukushima, the JMA said.
The areas were among the hardest hit by this year's devastating earthquake and tsunami.
No immediate abnormalities were reported at nearby nuclear facilities, according to the semiofficial Kyodo news agency. There were no immediate reports of injuries or damage, the agency said.
Tremors from the quake were felt as far away as Tokyo.


http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/07/09/japan.earthquake/index.html?hpt=hp_t2