Discuss this possible trade....

[TwoHandJam]

SA-Ind

Rasho+pick for Ron Artest.

Would you take this risk? Would Indy be this desperate to get rid of him? Could Pop control him? Would you add Barry/Devin/Beno etc. to sweeten the deal? They need a Miller replacement.

Bowen is getting long in the tooth and this guy would be a great replacement if we could get his head screwed on straight. His offense, although not completely needed is also light years ahead of Bowen's. What would we do with Bowen though if we landed him?

Discuss. :hat

[ducks]

rumor is that larry bird does not want tinsely,oneal + jackson all back
because of their hot heads

[Big Pimp_21]

why would Indy want Rasho? They have Jermaine O'Niel, Foster, and Croshere. Not to mention, Artest is one of the best defenders in the league. Our picks are trash too, b/c we are always so damn good.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Having a quality back up center and a good bench is worth more to me than trying to look ahead for Bowen's replacement. And even then I don't think he's worth it all. I think he'd very well wind up being the next Rodman here. He's had no leash on him at all for the last few years up in Indy and to suddenly be under a taskmaster like Pop? Disaster waiting to happen man.

[ducks]

pacers need to move artest
who would give up how much for him?
you would be a fool to give pacers a guy like odom for artest

[ducks]

every one thought sheed would be a disaster with pistons to
but he has been good except for last game

[mookie2001]

discussing trades that make no sense and would never happen is stupid

[TwoHandJam]

discussing trades that make no sense and would never happen is stupid
Then by all means don't discuss it.

[TwoHandJam]

why would Indy want Rasho? They have Jermaine O'Niel, Foster, and Croshere. Not to mention, Artest is one of the best defenders in the league. Our picks are trash too, b/c we are always so damn good.
O'Neal and Foster are great but Croshere is crap.

[ducks]

I think this next series could effect if rasho is back
but I would not mind J Oneal
but pacers will get more then what spurs would be willing to depart with

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Rasheed has only been a good little boy while the Pistons have been winning. When the going has started getting tough lately he's showing signs of the old Rasheed. The reason he was always in trouble in Portland was because they were always losing. And on top of that I think he, Damon, and Bonzi just brought out the worst in each other. I'm not sure but I think they three of them were the basis for the main characters in Half Baked.

But the difference between Rasheed and Artest is that Artest might legitimately have a screw loose, a la Rodman.

[ducks]

If I Am The Wolves I Offer Kg For J Oneal

[ALVAREZ6]

I wouldn't take Ron Artest for free. I hate that fuck.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

05-06 Artest = Mid-nineties Rodman.

He's a headcase.

No thank you.

[ducks]

rasheed would be winning in SA

[Xolotl]

Yeah but with Rasheed would we have enough room for Manu and Tony??

[ALVAREZ6]

Why are we discussing these stupid trades, especially when they will never happen...Rasho and a pick for Artest?

Right.

Even if we could make that trade work, we wouldn't have enough to pay all our other players. Screw Artest, I don't ever wanna see him in a Spurs uniform.

[Jimcs50]

Hell No!!!!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'd do it for Stephen Jackson or Artest.

I forget where I read it, but at one point it was said that the Spurs could handle one "problem child" with this group.

Buckets is as loose a cannon as Artest is, and he fit in fine here. I think this franchise could handle one bad boy.

[baseline bum]

That's like asking an Indy fan if they'd trade Freddie Jones for Manu.

[SouthernFried]

Ron Artest doesn't fit in anywhere. He's just like Rodman...seriously messed up. No amount of pampering or good influences will affect someone with as serious a mental problem as Artest.

Really, really stupid idea.

[sanman53]

Na, 'test is good, but I dont like his attitude.
Sort on the same subject, how long we got Bruce Bowen for? I am talking about his contract, is it up soon? I cant remember how long we signed him for. Anyone know?

[Big Pimp_21]

We have Bruce for 3 more years i think...he just restructured last off season to bring in Barry. We have a team option for the 3rd year.

[sanman53]

Great! I thought he did something recently with his contract, could not remember. Thats so awesome! I think Pop and Holt have done a great job managing these guys!

[ducks]

I bet larry will trade oneal,artest,tinsley or jackson this offseason

[Mr. Body]

Pacers can and will get more for Artest than Rasho.

[Dre_7]

Barry and Rasho for Buckets!

I heard Jax is not happy in Indy. Is this true? Dont really follow the pacers.

[texbumTHElife]

I would not be suprised at all to see Artest land in Chicago. Scott Skiles is a hard nosed defensive coach who thinks he can control egos. Rumor is they are also looking for a combo guard who can play some defense and would most likely deal their draft pick + some talent for one. If Paxson could keep Artest in line he would be perfect on that team.

[Big Pimp_21]

didn't Artest come from Chicago?

[Dre_7]

Wow, artest on that team, with a healthy Curry (if he resigns) would be crazy. If Artest can control himself, they would be a serious contender in the east! (If they didnt have to give up too much for him)

[Dre_7]

didn't Artest come from Chicago?

Yeah, he was drafted by Chicago.

[TwoHandJam]

Indiana will have to part with Artest at a discount precisely because he is a headcase. Not too many teams would take a chance on him for that reason but there's no denying his talent. Having him on the Spurs would take us to another level and if anyone could control him it would be Pop. I doubt Indiana keeps him on their roster.

Another interesting trade I was thinking of would be packaging Rasho + whatever back to Minny for Sczerbiak. Minny wanted to keep Rasho and Wally wants out. Candy was a total bust for them as expected. The chances that they help a conference rival are slim of course.

[duncan_21]

I would not be suprised at all to see Artest land in Chicago. Scott Skiles is a hard nosed defensive coach who thinks he can control egos. Rumor is they are also looking for a combo guard who can play some defense and would most likely deal their draft pick + some talent for one. If Paxson could keep Artest in line he would be perfect on that team.

That's funny. No way are bulls gonna clear some cap space by getting rid of their young talent for a cap hit like artest who is mentally ill. He's not like isiah rider, he's got some sort of crazy in his head.

The bulls are my 2nd fav team, they're looking for a taller guard 6-5 6-6 who can defend the 2 and/or 1. Something like a midlevel exemption type of player. They got a nice nucleus of young talent like gordon, hinrich, curry, deng, and chandler.

They wouldn't screw it up for a head case like artest.

[xcoriate]

An overpaid stiff of a C and a crap pick for an all-star defensive playerr of the year hothead.

wtf is wrong with you people.

I dont even think we want Artest.

[dbreiden83080]

Artest would love it in SA since it is so Defense oriented and they are all about winning. However despite his troubles he too talented to give up for Rasho and a pick. The main problem with Rasho is his contract Spurs way overpaid for him he is due 32.4 mil over the next 4 years that is way too much, the spurs are going to be stuck with him.

[Sense]

SA-Ind

Rasho+pick for Ron Artest.

Would you take this risk? Would Indy be this desperate to get rid of him? Could Pop control him? Would you add Barry/Devin/Beno etc. to sweeten the deal? They need a Miller replacement.

Bowen is getting long in the tooth and this guy would be a great replacement if we could get his head screwed on straight. His offense, although not completely needed is also light years ahead of Bowen's. What would we do with Bowen though if we landed him?

Discuss. :hat



I really think you could've made a better example or something...


Rasho for Artest is really kind of a joke.


Artest is their best player period.

He's their leading scorer and their best defender...he shoots threes and he rebounds the ball..steals..blocks.


Compare him to Rasho and he'll outplay rasho at center!

[leemajors]

being stuck with a more than serviceable backup center is not a bad thing. you have to keep him till you are damn sure nazr would re-up anyways.

[pooh]

Artest isn't going anywhere and neither is JO, Tins or Jax...or Foster for that matter. The only pacers who are probably up on the block are more than likely, Bender, J.Jones, and Pollard.

[Kori Ellis]

Artest isn't going anywhere and neither is JO, Tins or Jax...or Foster for that matter. The only pacers who are probably up on the block are more than likely, Bender, J.Jones, and Pollard.

Didn't Larry Bird just say last week (or the week before) that they didn't want Artest, Jackson, and Tinsley all back because that was too many high-strung personalities on one team? I would guess that means at least one of them is getting moved.

[TwoHandJam]

Do you people think really think that Artest is going to land a max contract somewhere given his personality problems? As docile as Rasho is, he's still a better-than-average bigman in this league and a desirable commodity. He makes 7M/yr. How many teams will throw more than that kind of money at Artest?

[BronxCowboy]

Artest is a great player, but at this point I wouldn't take him even if they offered to pay Rasho's contract and send him back at the minimum salary. Dude's trouble.

[clubalien]

ya'll keep saying he is just like rodman, may i remind peopel rodman played for US! so therefore that doesn't say spurs wouldn't get artest
artest is a defense of 3 like bowen therefore i woudl trade for him maybe

deven + picks +barry or something doubt it will happen though

[picnroll]

Artest isn't going anywhere and neither is JO, Tins or Jax...or Foster for that matter. The only pacers who are probably up on the block are more than likely, Bender, J.Jones, and Pollard.
I hope thsoe guys aren't going anywhere. That make one les contender for the Spurs.

Pacers are losing two of their precious few voices of reason, Miller and Brown. Carlisle is publicly calling out O'Neal to step up, be a mature leader. Good luck their Rick. Bird is talking about adding Sarunas, a talented player but with a reputation of being a hothead on the court. Indianna needs another hothead like a forest fire needs a match. The Pacers are well on the way to being Portland east.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Artest isn't going anywhere and neither is JO, Tins or Jax...or Foster for that matter. The only pacers who are probably up on the block are more than likely, Bender, J.Jones, and Pollard.

Whatever Pooh. Indy wants to clean up its franchise, and it wouldn't accomplish that by keeping all the hot heads and trading its quality guys.

[ducks]

the bulls do not have all rookie contracts
chandler and curry are fa's

[Rick Von Braun]

Imagine for a second a defensive-oriented lineup that consists of:

Manu
Bowen
Artest
Duncan
Nazr

Manu, Bowen and Artest would be wrecking havoc in the perimenter with Tim and Nazr protecting the paint. No other team would be able to score a single point against that lineup! It would be ridiculously funny :lol

[wildbill2u]

I don't see the Spurs bringing in a guy who went after fans in the stands. there is only so much bend in the Spurs organization for bad boys (we've had a few) but there is a line they won't cross, even for Superman.

[Mark in Austin]

If the Pacers are going to get rid of one of Tinsley, Jack, or Artest, they're going to wait until after the draft. If they can find a decent PG, Tinsley is gonzo. If not, then Jack is next. It is highly unlikely they would trade Artest because 1) he's really effing good; and 2) they can't get equal talent in return because of the fight.

The last thing I saw written was that the Pacers were on record saying they weren't going to trade Artest. Does anybody have a link to this Bird quote about a trade?

[RobertHorry4three]

How about when you make a trade proposal you think about the other teams need's also. Rasho and late 1st rounder is garbage. You couldn't even get one of their role players for that. Rash is overpaid and not even decent. It's kind of like when you dumped Malik's contract and got something better in return. Zeke must have been smokin some good stuff when he made that trade.