International Prospect: Davis Bertans

[Chinook]

joseph?

Maybe, but I doubt it. He's going into his third season, and those players rarely play in the summer league -- especially if they're in the rotation already. Likely it will be Denmon or some Toros guard.

[yavozerb]

Maybe, but I doubt it. He's going into his third season, and those players rarely play in the summer league -- especially if they're in the rotation already. Likely it will be Denmon or some Toros guard.

I am almost 100% that Joseph will be there in the summer. Kid is only still 21 and needs as much PT as possible. I would not even count Joseph as a full rotation player since he played so little during the regular season and did not get any NBA PT until playoff time.

[BackHome]

It would be nice to have someone who has experience run the point just as long as he works on creating and not making baskets.

[ABC]

Partizan crushed Red Star in the Serbian Finals opener 82-54. I think Partizan was the "home" team, so they would have had their fans in the arena, but I'm not positive. Bertans had 10 points on 4 for 6 shooting (2 for 4 on 3 pointers), 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 assist, and a block in 17 minutes. Looks like he was in foul trouble, but it didn't matter.

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Serbia/2013/0605_170_1555.asp

[BackHome]

Hey who is that Dragan player he put up some great stats?

[Bruno]

Bertans had 10 points on 4 for 6 shooting (2 for 4 on 3 pointers), 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 assist, and a block in 17 minutes.

A nice block, I would say:
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[SpursSerb]

Hey who is that Dragan player he put up some great stats?

Dragan Milosavljevic,solid sg for european standards,not nba caliber.

[ABC]

A nice block, I would say

Wow. He's got better hops than I realized. He was way up. His wingspan is just average, but his jumping should help make up for it.

[100%duncan]

Why is Bertans not scoring that much tbh? Thought this dude was a shooter/dynamic scorer.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

lol 100%duncan! last night when i caught a glimpse of that cleavage, my speech was affected. i ended up callin it clivage.

[ABC]

Why is Bertans not scoring that much tbh? Thought this dude was a shooter/dynamic scorer.
It looks like Partizan really spreads the minutes out a lot and has pretty even scoring amongst amongst players. He averaged 9.8 points in 23 minutes in the Adriatic league, which was second best on the team and 13.4 points in 25 minutes in the Serbian League, which was best on the team. He didn't do as well in Euroleague.

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/BC_Partizan_MTS_Beograd/170?Page=3

Also, Bertans is only 20 and "dynamic scorer" might be a stretch. He's a great shooter though.

[100%duncan]

It looks like Partizan really spreads the minutes out a lot and has pretty even scoring amongst amongst players. He averaged 9.8 points in 23 minutes in the Adriatic league, which was second best on the team and 13.4 points in 25 minutes in the Serbian League, which was best on the team. He didn't do as well in Euroleague.

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/BC_Partizan_MTS_Beograd/170?Page=3

Also, Bertans is only 20 and "dynamic scorer" might be a stretch. He's a great shooter though.

23 minutes per game and 25 minutes, isn't that quite low for a superstar there? Even though considering they have 40 minute games right?

[ABC]

23 minutes per game and 25 minutes, isn't that quite low for a superstar there? Even though considering they have 40 minute games right?

:lol Now you're just trolling. I don't think anyone has ever called Bertans a superstar. He's just a good prospect, especially considering his age. If he makes the NBA, I think his ceiling would be possibly an NBA starter at some point. On the other hand, he may never even make it. He was the 42nd pick, after all. I like him though. I think he'll be Leonard's backup sometime soon. And his 25 minutes in the Serbian League was second most on the team...

[100%duncan]

:lol Now you're just trolling. I don't think anyone has ever called Bertans a superstar. He's just a good prospect, especially considering his age. If he makes the NBA, I think his ceiling would be possibly an NBA starter at some point. On the other hand, he may never even make it. He was the 42nd pick, after all. I like him though. I think he'll be Leonard's backup sometime soon. And his 25 minutes in the Serbian League was second most on the team...

Oh sorry :lol I didn't know shit bout him or that league tbh. I thought he was a superstar there considering everyone is hyping him up here.

[SpursSerb]

Bertans is not a starter in Partizan.Team's captain Vladimir Lucic is starting sf.Bertans will start next season if he stays.

Davis Bertans with the clutch 3 against Red Star 19 seconds before the final whistle!Partizan leads 2-0 in series!Fuck yeah! :lobt2:

[ABC]

Oh sorry :lol I didn't know shit bout him or that league tbh. I thought he was a superstar there considering everyone is hyping him up here.

:lol I seriously thought you were trolling me. Bertans plays for the best team in the Serbian League and the larger Adriatic League. They play in the Euroleague as well (Europe's top competition), but are not a good team on that level. Still, he's on a much better team than a player like Hanga, and Partizan is way, way above Ryan Richards' team in the Austrian League. Because of his age and the level of the competition he's facing, what he is doing is pretty impressive. Bertans is currently the most likely of the Spurs' international players to some day make the team, but that's not necessarily saying that much. If anybody has hyped him, it was probably me, so sorry about that.

[Spurs for life]

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/other/grand/81a90782aac0522e07e2c38947ecfdef.gif

[ABC]

^ Thanks for the video.

Partizan won the Serbian League finals in a close game. Bertans was the leading scorer and rebounder for Partizan with 13 points (3 for 5 on threes), 6 boards, 2 blocks, and a steal in 32 minutes.

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Serbia/2013/0607_1555_170.asp

[Spurs for life]

Partizan needs one more win, Davis didn't have a great game today (he's not playing well this final part of the season), but he made a BIG CLUTCH 3 pointer. Red star was in the lead for almost whole game, but at the end, Bertans' shoot gave us the lead.


One of my favourite players :king


http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=3O9sGoQtBKA

[BackHome]

The one thing I like about this kid is the passion for the game and he is not scarred of taking the open shot when the game is on the line. The summer league is going to be the best summer league that I can remember and it is going to be interesting how he and our other foreign draft picks play.

[Bruno]

Bertans isn't a dominant player in Europe. He is nowhere near the level a player like Splitter had before joining Spurs. What is making him attractive is that he is only 20 years old and is playing well at a solid level of competition. If he was 22 or 23 years old and had that production, he would be a significantly less interesting player to follow.

It's nice to see there are some Partizan fans here, welcome to them. From the recent games I've seen from Bertans, it seemed obvious that his future was at the SF spot and not being a stretch PF. Do you agree with that?

[BackHome]

So let me ask if Bertrans was in this years draft where would he fall?

[100%duncan]

:lol I seriously thought you were trolling me. Bertans plays for the best team in the Serbian League and the larger Adriatic League. They play in the Euroleague as well (Europe's top competition), but are not a good team on that level. Still, he's on a much better team than a player like Hanga, and Partizan is way, way above Ryan Richards' team in the Austrian League. Because of his age and the level of the competition he's facing, what he is doing is pretty impressive. Bertans is currently the most likely of the Spurs' international players to some day make the team, but that's not necessarily saying that much. If anybody has hyped him, it was probably me, so sorry about that.

Oh alright. :lol

I would love to have his talents under the silver and black next season, what say you? How about Bruno?

[Bruno]

I would love to have his talents under the silver and black next season, what say you? How about Bruno?

I like him a lot but I'm more leaning towards him staying one more year in Europe. He is still very young.

[100%duncan]

I like him a lot but I'm more leaning towards him staying one more year in Europe. He is still very young.

I just hope there won't be any conflicts with the contract. Ala Scola and Lorbek.

[Spurs for life]

From the recent games I've seen from Bertans, it seemed obvious that his future was at the SF spot and not being a stretch PF. Do you agree with that?

I agree, he couldn't defend NBA PFs...

[exstatic]

I just hope there won't be any conflicts with the contract. Ala Scola and Lorbek.

The only contract conflict with Lorbek was that he used us as leverage to sign his new deal, and promptly dropped off the face of the Earth. He was completely free to sign last year if he wanted to. He didn't.

[jyra]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PKVv9H-LJ18

[BackHome]

The only contract conflict with Lorbek was that he used us as leverage to sign his new deal, and promptly dropped off the face of the Earth. He was completely free to sign last year if he wanted to. He didn't.

Yeah I think Lobrek pretty much used us to get a better deal at home I am sure he had no interest in coming over to the NBA. But he got his money and his team is paying for it..........we got the last laugh cause he sucked this season..:rollin

[SpursSerb]

I just hope there won't be any conflicts with the contract. Ala Scola and Lorbek.

He has a buyout,some wil be covered by the Spurs but the most from Bertans himself.Partizan never stops his players if they want to leave.Plus Bertans is determined to play for the Spurs,he's always pointing that out.But he isn't ready for the nba yet,personally i think he's 2 seasons away from that.

[BackHome]

Yeah but he is not going to wait two years he is going to want to make some money and if he does get better teams may throw some $$$ at him. Probably any teams that do this will make the buyout a little tougher for us to pay.

[Spurs for life]

Very bad game for Davis last night, Partizan lost (2-1 in the Finals now...)...

http://www.kls.rs/box.php?id=246 Stats

[smaka]

This just in:

http://kosarka.si/partizan-ostal-brez-bertansa/

Right now, a game between Partizan and Red Star is played, and according to this site, Bertans hurt his knee at the end of first half. Sources say the injury could be a bad one. Bertans won't play in 2nd half. More news probably coming tomorrow.

[Spurs for life]

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/other/grand/2fd96dbbdf7725b16612d71bf56386b0.gif

We won it :lobt:

Hope Davis' injury is not a bad one...

[DrunkTXLabrat]

ooo that's big news. i wonder what comes out in the updates?

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMl6_EWCcAAMAGK.jpg:large

[ace3g]

I believe this is the Team's YT page

http://www.youtube.com/user/KKPARTlZAN/videos?view=0

[ace3g]

http://trojka.rs/2013/04/29/1002007.73.jpg

http://www.tportal.hr/ResourceManager/GetImage.aspx?imgId=444049&width=1500&height=1100

[BackHome]

Wow Bertrans team won and Ryan Richards team won..

[Spurs for life]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRqugsuN8T0

His injury...

[BackHome]

Well if that picture from Ace is after the game then I would think his injury is not that bad if that is him in the lower left of the picture.

[Bruno]

Wow, it looks really bad. Let's hope it's not too serious.

[Spurs for life]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=D1QZ2yqcohg

[smaka]

http://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/bertans-u-suzama-proslavio-titulu-povreda-kolena-mu-je-unistila-vece-za-pamcenje
Here is the article from Serbian site.

Let me do a quick summary of it:

It is yet unknown how severe his injury is. The results of medical exams will be known on Thursday or Friday. If he hurt his ligaments he will probably miss Eurobasket in Slovenia, where Latvia plays in same group as Serbia.
In 2nd half, Bertans watched the game and celebrated his teammates' actions and the win basically on "one leg". After the game, when team gathered in the locker room, it became obvious that something was wrong with him, as he was sitting in there, staring at his phone and crying, while his teammates were celebrating the title. Then his teammates told him to go with them in order to take some pictures, however, when Bertans wanted to get up, the pain in his knee prevented him that.

Sorry for a shitty translation but I think you all get the point of the article. I hope to hear more (good) news today...

[100%duncan]

Damn hope the injury is not bad

[Rito3d30]

damn
hope this will not affect the Spurs off season schedule with him

[Bruno]

Torn cruciate ligaments. :depressed

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[venitian navigator]

Holy shit!
This means one year out...and, for us, one year lost.
I thought of him like a very good chance to be on summer league and in our roster next year like a back up SF.
He's very young and should recover well, but I don't think that, at this point, he's gonna have a chance to be with us next year.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:/ Honestly, I think the Spurs still should sign him. A year with the medical staff and learning from the sidelines should still do him some good.

[Chinook]

Well, having him for next season is out. Let's talk long-term future.

If the Spurs want to be cheap, they may as well let Bertans rehab on Partizan's dime and not theirs. However, the Spurs have to hope that Bertans can get the same medical treatment as he could get here. More than that, the Spurs have to trust that he wouldn't be rushed back too soon and do even worse damage to his knee. If the Spurs have doubts and believe in his long-term potential, it may be worth it to bring him over on a three-year deal and let him rehab with the Toros and learn the system in a big red-shirt year. That could be a waste of a roster spot though.

Bertans is still 6-9/6-10, so even if he loses a good deal of athleticism, he should be able to get his shot off, which is really the most important part of his potential NBA game. His defensive potential may drop a lot now, which does hurt his chances of staying on the floor, but I think he'll be fine provided he recovers correctly. The real question (that anyone can control) becomes if Bertans should try to bulk up and play the four now that he's probably lost some quickness. He has the height for it, but he doesn't really have the frame. Worse case, he could still be a Novak-like player with a lot of work.

[Bruno]

For the moment, I haven't seen a reliable source telling exactly which cruciate ligament he tore. It could be ACL and/or MCL and/or PCL. It's not known whether or not he will need surgery.

I guess that, if Partizan is fine with it, Spurs would like to do the surgery and/or rehab themselves. That's what Spurs did with Sanikidze and Denmon.

[Bill_Brasky]

That sucks.....dude blew his knee out in the last game of the season....

[yavozerb]

:/ Honestly, I think the Spurs still should sign him. A year with the medical staff and learning from the sidelines should still do him some good.

Let it go..There was always a small chance of him coming over even healthy. Gonna be a minimum of 2 years for him to come over in my opinion and if he progresses from this injury a more realistic window is 3-4 years. This sucks cause I really wanted to see him this summer but the fact that he is still young helps him out alot.

[elemento]

Feel bad for him. Hopefully he can have a good recovery. I still expect him to be a Spur someday.

[Bruno]

Various reports are now saying it's the ACL and that he will have a surgery in about a week.

Bertans' reaction to his injury:
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[Robz4000]

Sucks. Was hoping to ser him come over soon. Luckily ACL injuries aren't the end of the world injuries like they used to be.

[smaka]

Note that he had problems with his knees before, when he played in Union Olimpija. When he grew he also gained wieght which caused him problems with knees. I know it's too early to say anything about it, but what if it shows up his knees really are injury-prone?

[bluebellmaniac]

Well, having him for next season is out. Let's talk long-term future.

If the Spurs want to be cheap, they may as well let Bertans rehab on Partizan's dime and not theirs. However, the Spurs have to hope that Bertans can get the same medical treatment as he could get here. More than that, the Spurs have to trust that he wouldn't be rushed back too soon and do even worse damage to his knee. If the Spurs have doubts and believe in his long-term potential, it may be worth it to bring him over on a three-year deal and let him rehab with the Toros and learn the system in a big red-shirt year. That could be a waste of a roster spot though.

Bertans is still 6-9/6-10, so even if he loses a good deal of athleticism, he should be able to get his shot off, which is really the most important part of his potential NBA game. His defensive potential may drop a lot now, which does hurt his chances of staying on the floor, but I think he'll be fine provided he recovers correctly. The real question (that anyone can control) becomes if Bertans should try to bulk up and play the four now that he's probably lost some quickness. He has the height for it, but he doesn't really have the frame. Worse case, he could still be a Novak-like player with a lot of work.

The FO has a good history of taking care of our stashed players when they are injured. I'm sure it will be no different with Bertans. As Bruno said, we'll no doubt work with his team and decide on the best possible path for his recovery and long term good. That is a great thing about the Spurs.

[smaka]

So a torn right ACL it is...

Partizan mt:s Belgrade paid a high price for its victory over Crvena Zvezda Telekom in Game 4 of the Serbian League finals. Promising forward Davis Bertans suffered a knee injury, and after further evaluation, the club announced Friday that Bertans tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. He is expected to undergo surgery in the coming days.

"It is a difficult situation", said Partizan head coach Dusko Vujosevic. "Davis took it pretty hard, but I am sure he will come out of this even stronger. Our club is behind him."

The estimated recovery time from such an injury is at least six months, which means that Bertans could miss the entire 2013-14 Turkish Airlines Euroleague Regular Season. Bertans (2.05 meters, 20 years old) just completed his second season with Partizan. He averaged 6.6 points on 47.1% three-point shooting in 10 Euroleague games last season, including a season-high 17 points on 5-of-8 three-point shooting against FC Barcelona Regal. His numbers jumped to 9.8 points on 44.6% three-point shooting in 28 Adriatic League games.

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/114323/180

[Seventyniner]

Javtokas part II? I hope not...

[sasffl]

Why do the overseas suffer so many injuries... They're just unlucky, so are spurs

[exstatic]

Javtokas part II? I hope not...

Uh, Bertans didn't get fucked up in a motorcycle accident. Not the same thing at all.

[Seventyniner]

Uh, Bertans didn't get fucked up in a motorcycle accident. Not the same thing at all.

I meant that it's possible to draw some parallels. Promising European play followed by a possibly career-altering injury. For Javtokas, it was because he got hurt so badly it materially affected his game. For Bertans, he could make a full recovery, but is going to lose precious career development time.

[exstatic]

I meant that it's possible to draw some parallels. Promising European play followed by a possibly career-altering injury. For Javtokas, it was because he got hurt so badly it materially affected his game. For Bertans, he could make a full recovery, but is going to lose precious career development time.

ACL tears are almost routine, these days. He'll be fine. It's much better that he tore a ligament that his meniscus. The recovery time is longer, but the recovery is complete. Once you start shaving or removing meniscus, the clock starts on knee degradation and arthritis.

They didn't know if Javtokas would ever play again. One if his leg bones was literally shattered. It really isn't even comparable.

[Seventyniner]

ACL tears are almost routine, these days. He'll be fine. It's much better that he tore a ligament that his meniscus. The recovery time is longer, but the recovery is complete. Once you start shaving or removing meniscus, the clock starts on knee degradation and arthritis.

They didn't know if Javtokas would ever play again. One if his leg bones was literally shattered. It really isn't even comparable.

Point taken.

[ivanfromwestwood]

acls are over rated. ask Blair

[BackHome]

Well there goes him playing in the summer camp or being signed by us this year.

[smaka]

http://kosarka.si/foto-davis-bertans-bo-operiran-v-zda/

Bertans will have surgery in USA, as this article states. The coach of Partizan said that Bertans will have discussions with the Spurs before his surgery in USA.

[Spurs for life]

DB‏@DBertans_442h (http://www.spurstalk.com/DBertans_44/status/347653333084934144)I'll be back sooner than you think #comeback (http://www.spurstalk.com/search?q=%23comeback&src=hash) pic.twitter.com/XNVk1IKIIR (http://t.co/XNVk1IKIIR)

[ace3g]

DB @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)Just landed in Minneapolis... Few more hours and I'll be in San Antonio!!! #LongDay (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23LongDay)

[Bruno]

Nice to see Spurs managing the surgery. :tu

Players are now recovering way better than a decade ago from ACL surgeries. With Spurs at the helm, it's quite sure he will get the best surgeon possible to do that surgery.

[CGD]

Wonder if this suggests he may come this year after all?

[exstatic]

Wonder if this suggests he may come this year after all?

Uh, no. The EARLIEST he could come back would be 6 months, around Christmas. More likely is nine months. That would be only a few weeks before the playoffs. The Spurs will pay for and manage his surgery, but they will not pay for him to take up a roster spot and salary space just to rehab for almost the whole season.

[ace3g]

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[BackHome]

So we won't even look at this kid until two years since he will be out a whole year and I would want to see him play and stay healthy for a whole season.

[bluebellmaniac]

So we won't even look at this kid until two years since he will be out a whole year and I would want to see him play and stay healthy for a whole season.

Yes, pretty much.

[BackHome]

Well I guess all the focus will be on Adam - Baynes and our draft pick for summer league.

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)Coach Chip is a really great guy... got me all 30 for 30 movies, so i have something to watch after the surgery...

[td4mvp2k]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)Coach Chip is a really great guy... got me all 30 for 30 movies, so i have something to watch after the surgery...


:lol

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)I'm done with the last treatment before the surgery... Tommorow is the big day.. #GettingTheKneeFixed (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23GettingTheKneeFixed)

[ace3g]

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[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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[adonis827]

and he got himself a best of the west tshirt

[jesterbobman]

So, is anyone else high on Bertans after his surgery.

[sinok]

ACL reconstruction is actually not that much of a problem nowadays, unless something goes really really wrong and someone does stupid things. The functional rehab protocols are well known.

The main trouble is to make sure both knees are correctly rehabed, as the non operated knee is the one that is the more prone to be injuried (ALC tear or rupture), due to muscle loss generated by the body to balance the injured knee.

[Bruno]

If Bertans is able to prove he is healthy near the end of the 2013-2014 season, I would be all for Spurs signing him in the 2014 summer.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zqnZtkJxBkA

[DesignatedT]

I didn't know that about his finger. Interesting lol.

[ace3g]

From team YT page


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNLYf3tVj6M&feature=youtu.be

[spurraider21]

From team YT page


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNLYf3tVj6M&feature=youtu.be

:wow

[Maddog]

Looks impressive
At least he looks aggressive. Need to have a talk with him about that #44 jersey

[Chinook]

It's interesting that those highlights had a lot of blocks. A couple of years ago, he said that he was trying to work on becoming a better defender. Let's hope there's some substance behind those impact plays.

[benefactor]

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[ace3g]

Jan Vesely @JanVesely24
(http://twitter.com/JanVesely24)Stari i novi Grobar!! #partizan4ever (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23partizan4ever) dbertans_44 instagram.com/p/b5cpNpNYJ2/ (http://t.co/X6C5KAWCF0)

http://distilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com/1a401ceaef7511e2800922000a9e5110_7.jpg

[BackHome]

Don't be a fool and rush back...take your time..:)

[CGD]

Uh, no. The EARLIEST he could come back would be 6 months, around Christmas. More likely is nine months. That would be only a few weeks before the playoffs. The Spurs will pay for and manage his surgery, but they will not pay for him to take up a roster spot and salary space just to rehab for almost the whole season.

a retun by Christmas wouldn't be terrible. It's not like he was going to a contributor this year anyway. He was going to need a year to learn the system, get reps in Austin, etc. 5 months of that isn't a bad investment on a cheap deal.

I think the spurs not signing him has less to do with his injury, than them wanting to see what fall out comes from the Neal/Blair departures, as well as what player is available to scoop up with the last slot. If they strike out on Oden or someone like Ayon, and they're not convinced about Thomas, then why not Bertans?

[Marcus Bryant]

I like the way he plays. Weak competition, but still.

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)It's been 7 weeks post surgery, and i just started shooting jumpshots, feeling good and still knocking those 3's down :)

[Bruno]

If you want to see a silver lining at that injury is that Bertans will surely takes more muscles/weight rehabbing with Spurs for months that with Partizan where the focus is on games and endless practices. Lack of strength is the main obstacle between Bertans and the NBA.

[mountainballer]

any news about what about his contract situation? AFAIK he is signed with Partizan till summer 2015. is there a drop out/buy out clause?
and what could be the deal with the Spurs when they manage (and likely finance) all the medical treatment and rehab?

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)This injury makes me realise how much i really love this game!!! #GettingStronger (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23GettingStronger)

[exstatic]

any news about what about his contract situation? AFAIK he is signed with Partizan till summer 2015. is there a drop out/buy out clause?
and what could be the deal with the Spurs when they manage (and likely finance) all the medical treatment and rehab?

Spurs always foot the bill for medical issues with draft picks, even guys who never play for them like Giricek and Javtokas.

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)2 hour workout, most of it lifting, now massage, a little rest and then come back for cardio and shooting... #GettingBetter (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23GettingBetter)

[pad300]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)2 hour workout, most of it lifting, now massage, a little rest and then come back for cardio and shooting... #GettingBetter (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23GettingBetter)





He had the surgery July 2nd and he's mobile enough to do Cardio and shooting? Is it just me, or is that massively ahead of schedule? Kobe Bryant had his April 13, and was reported to be doing Cardio with an anti-gravity treadmill on 19 Aug:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kobe-bryant-running-anti-gravity-treadmill-probably-means-235709183.html

[yavozerb]

He had the surgery July 2nd and he's mobile enough to do Cardio and shooting? Is it just me, or is that massively ahead of schedule? Kobe Bryant had his April 13, and was reported to be doing Cardio with an anti-gravity treadmill on 19 Aug:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kobe-bryant-running-anti-gravity-treadmill-probably-means-235709183.html

Not sure how these 2 players can be compared since both had completely different injuries...:rolleyes

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44 ace3g I'm pretty sure i'll be on the court in the second part of the season to collect the ring and win the Serbian league again!!

[Bruno]

With Spurs doing the surgery and the rehab, they will be the one in charge to decide Bertans return timetable which is a good thing. Partizan will be tempted to have Bertans coming back as quickly as possible to help them to win games next season while Spurs only interest is Bertans' long term health. Spurs will surely be very careful and take one or two extra months before clearing him to play with Partizan to be sure he is 100% healthy and has no specific risks of re-injuring his knee.

[Captivus]

Men!! I wanted to see he could do this seasn...still pissed about the injury.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7Ml3mwIVy7M

[jyra]

Interesting to see that the Spurs have an anti-gravity treadmill. Let's hope for a speedy recovery.

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans ‏@DBertans_44 (https://twitter.com/DBertans_44) 3h (https://twitter.com/DBertans_44/status/374958545331961856) Today I started jumping and i ran a little with 75% body weight, then made 83/100 2's and 81/100 3's #FeelingGoodWhenMakingShots (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FeelingGoodWhenMakingShots&src=hash)

[smaka]

Davis Bertans ‏@DBertans_44 (https://twitter.com/DBertans_44) 3h (https://twitter.com/DBertans_44/status/374958545331961856) Today I started jumping and i ran a little with 75% body weight, then made 83/100 2's and 81/100 3's #FeelingGoodWhenMakingShots (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FeelingGoodWhenMakingShots&src=hash)

Impressive.

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)3,5h weightroom... That thing killed me, but good feeling after it and i deserve a day off tomorrow :)

[adonis827]

could it be his brother is better than him?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lithuania-ukraine-win-euro-champs-183834413--nba.html

[ace3g]

His bro is only 6'4-6'5 (Davis is 6'10) and older than Davis so there is less potential there.

[ace3g]

Not sure how recent this photo is:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUhMepHCIAAONIR.jpg:large

RidzeneBasketball ‏@RidzeneBasketba (https://twitter.com/RidzeneBasketba) 6h (https://twitter.com/RidzeneBasketba/status/380638257819557888) Vai Jūs zinajāt, ka @RidzeneBasketball zālē trenējas @DBertans_44 (https://twitter.com/DBertans_44) ? pic.twitter.com/MGJiR4E6fk (http://t.co/MGJiR4E6fk)

[yavozerb]

This pic is showing Davis a little thicker and more muscular than I remember him being.

[pad300]

Not sure how recent this photo is:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUhMepHCIAAONIR.jpg:large

RidzeneBasketball ‏@RidzeneBasketba (https://twitter.com/RidzeneBasketba) 6h (https://twitter.com/RidzeneBasketba/status/380638257819557888) Vai Jūs zinajāt, ka @RidzeneBasketball zālē trenējas @DBertans_44 (https://twitter.com/DBertans_44) ? pic.twitter.com/MGJiR4E6fk (http://t.co/MGJiR4E6fk)

He's clearly been working out the upper body while he was rehabbing, compare to 2 months ago (Ace3G posted this image on 18/07/2013:

http://distilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com/1a401ceaef7511e2800922000a9e5110_7.jpg

The kid has something resembling muscles in his shoulders and arms, not just bony bits...

[CGD]

Is all this rehab still occurring in SA, or has he left?

[mrjap2x]

How was Davis Bertans against the 76ers?

[look_at_g_shred]

How was Davis Bertans against the 76ers?
I watched that game. I saw a guy named Bertans, but I didn't think it was him. I thought he wasn't supposed to be playing until next spring? If it was him, he looked great.

[smaka]

How was Davis Bertans against the 76ers?


I watched that game. I saw a guy named Bertans, but I didn't think it was him. I thought he wasn't supposed to be playing until next spring? If it was him, he looked great.


:lol

It was his brohter Dairis Bertans.

[monkeypunk]

I watched that game. I saw a guy named Bertans, but I didn't think it was him. I thought he wasn't supposed to be playing until next spring? If it was him, he looked great.

It was a different Bertans. Ours is Spurs property, is still recovering from ACL surgery and as you say, not expected back til early next year.

[look_at_g_shred]

lol...I knew it couldn't be.

[Captivus]

WHAT!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1802905-early-winners-and-losers-of-2013-14-nba-training-camp/page/5

Davis Bertans, the No. 42 pick of the 2011 NBA draft who has yet to play in the NBA, was the leading scorer for Bilbao. Philly will surely be facing tougher players once regular-season action begins.

[ace3g]

WHAT!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1802905-early-winners-and-losers-of-2013-14-nba-training-camp/page/5

Davis Bertans, the No. 42 pick of the 2011 NBA draft who has yet to play in the NBA, was the leading scorer for Bilbao. Philly will surely be facing tougher players once regular-season action begins.

That was his brother Dairis Bertāns

http://www.bilbaobasket.biz/es/noticias/leer%20m%C3%A1s/338/Dairis%20Bertans%20estar%C3%A1%20de%20baja%20dos%2 0semanas.html

[Captivus]

That was his brother Dairis Bertāns

http://www.bilbaobasket.biz/es/noticias/leer%20m%C3%A1s/338/Dairis%20Bertans%20estar%C3%A1%20de%20baja%20dos%2 0semanas.html

I know...thats the reason I started with WHAT!! :lol
This guy even took the time to search the draft position.

[Proxy]

With Spurs doing the surgery and the rehab, they will be the one in charge to decide Bertans return timetable which is a good thing. Partizan will be tempted to have Bertans coming back as quickly as possible to help them to win games next season while Spurs only interest is Bertans' long term health. Spurs will surely be very careful and take one or two extra months before clearing him to play with Partizan to be sure he is 100% healthy and has no specific risks of re-injuring his knee.

You called it


Partizan coach Dusko Vujošević said that the San Antonio Spurs explicitly said Davis Bertans needs a slower recovery from knee injury.

"Despite the fact that rehabilitation is very good, the request to delay came from the San Antonio Spurs. Instead of six months, he will be missing four to eight months more. Probably in March he will be ready and able to play," said Partizan coach Dusko Vujošević

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(http://twitter.com/DBertans_44)Played 1on1 today for the first time... Need to get in better shape, but most important that my legs are feeling good :) #CominBack (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23CominBack)

[Captivus]

Good news!

[CGD]

How's Matt Bonner's replacement coming along with his injury? Wasn't the time table for return around this time?

[SpursSerb]

He's suppose to return to play for Partizan in late february or march.

[yavozerb]

Best case scenario as an NBA player: Chandler Parsons

[spurraider21]

what's the latest on his recovery? seeing as he is one of our more likely acquisitions for next year, i'd love to see him get some games in before the summer

[SpursSerb]

Partizan's coach Vujosevic said that Bertans is recovering pretty good,and he might come back earlier than expected.The preliminary come back date was late february or march.Also some rumors that his older brother might sign for Partizan.Interesting to know if that changes his future plans somehow.

[ABC]

Thanks SpursSerb!

[MR-Clutch]

I'm guessing there's no way we can buy this guy out and bring him over this year?

[ABC]

I think it is possible to bring him over, but I don't know how much he'd be able to bring this year because he's recovering from an injury, doesn't know the system, pretty young, etc. If they did bring him over this year, it would probably still be with next year in mind.

[smaka]

Just an interesting fact - in less than a year, 3 Partizan (the club Bertans plays for) players had the same injury - ACL tear. I don't think this could be a coincidence, honestly.

[Bruno]

Just an interesting fact - in less than a year, 3 Partizan (the club Bertans plays for) players had the same injury - ACL tear. I don't think this could be a coincidence, honestly.

Partizan legendary endless practices might not be the best thing for players health.

[Chinook]

I'm torn between wanting the team to sign him when he gets healthy this season and them waiting until the off-season as to not was an accrued season on a couple of months. The team has enough of the MLE to sign him for up to four seasons. But a three-year deal is probably best for both sides, and I'm not really keen on only getting two real seasons out of him.

[ABC]

I'm for it if there's a roster spot available for him after the March 1st waiver deadline. It would be nice to save all of next year's MLE for other players.

[ace3g]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(https://twitter.com/DBertans_44)The countdown in my head gets louder every day... In less than a month i'll be back in Belgrade! Can't wait! #Comeback (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Comeback)

[yavozerb]

Davis Bertans @DBertans_44
(https://twitter.com/DBertans_44)The countdown in my head gets louder every day... In less than a month i'll be back in Belgrade! Can't wait! #Comeback (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Comeback)



:toast

[Chinook]

Just in time for the Spurs to buy him out and bring him over to fill that 15th spot.

[yavozerb]

Just in time for the Spurs to buy him out and bring him over to fill that 15th spot.

dude's not coming over till next season at the earliest and more likely in 2 seasons in my opinion.

[Chinook]

dude's not coming over till next season at the earliest and more likely in 2 seasons in my opinion.

Probably not this season. How he looks this year will determine whether the Spurs try to bring him over, in my opinion.

[Captivus]

:pop: So, he comes next year...1 year in the Dleague, then another year warming the bench then 2 years learning the system...

[smaka]

Bertans will play his first game after injury on February 16th.

[exstatic]

:pop: So, he comes next year...1 year in the Dleague, then another year warming the bench then 2 years learning the system...

Those ARE his two years learning the system.

[Captivus]

Those ARE his two years learning the system.

:lol You are right!

[SpursSerb]

What kind of contract can he get from the Spurs?Like Baynes?

[exstatic]

What kind of contract can he get from the Spurs?Like Baynes?

Second rounders are weird. If they're American, they make spit, but because there is no salary scale, if a player is making bank in Europe, you have to pay them.

[ace3g]

Partizan basketball coach Dusko Vujosevic said today that it will be mid-March, after almost eight months of absence due to injury on the ground back Lett Davis Bertans.

"The first game will be Bertans 16 March against Szolnok in the Adriatic League, "said Vujoševic reporters in Belgrade.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pobjeda.me%2F2014%2F02%2F06%2Fb ertans-se-vraca-protiv-solnoka-petak-konacna-odluka-za-pavlovica%2F%23.Uvxa-YWmWSo

[SpursSerb]

For those that didn't know,Bertans is missing a half finger.He lost it when he was chopping woods as a kid.

http://s.tf.rs/2012/11/01/bertans.jpg

[exstatic]

For those that didn't know,Bertans is missing a half finger.He lost it when he was chopping woods as a kid.

http://s.tf.rs/2012/11/01/bertans.jpg

God, I hope he's left handed. :lol

[CGD]

Assuming that's not photoshopped, what the hell is wrong with the part of his arm immediately below his wrist?!? Looks like some wicked growth.

[SpursSerb]

God, I hope he's left handed. :lol

Nope,right handed. :toast

[smaka]

Assuming that's not photoshopped, what the hell is wrong with the part of his arm immediately below his wrist?!? Looks like some wicked growth.

Lol, it's just his biceps in the background, but since it's a bad quality pic it looks like its a freaking tumor.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgoNirFCYAAk7FT.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/beeroslav/status/435175203321044992/photo/1

[FlAVaK]

http://www.telegraf.rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/28/Davis-Bertrans1.jpg

[exstatic]

http://www.telegraf.rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/28/Davis-Bertrans1.jpg

Shit, this made me lol.

[spurraider21]

so does Austin Daye signing ensure that he's not coming over this year

[exstatic]

so does Austin Daye signing ensure that he's not coming over this year

If they wanted, they could sign him after waiving Brown (which I'm 100% sure will happen). I don't see bringing him over now, though. You only have so many years of control and evaluation before a player is a FA, and partial years count as years.

[SpursSerb]

From Bertrans side,i think one more year in Europe is best for him.He is not NBA ready,to many flaws.

From Partizan's side,they need more his buyout money than they need him.The club has a lot of financial problems like so many others in Europe.Plus they are looking for his replacement from the beginning of the season.

If i was Spurs and i wanted to sign him in the summer,i wouldn't let him come back in Partizan to play only 2 months and possible risk another injury.At one point i was certain he was finished with Partizan.Right now i'm not so sure.Another season in Partizan seems more realistic.

[jyra]

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[AFBlue]

Awesome news! According to the schedule that's this upcoming Sunday.

[smaka]

The game between Partizan and Szolnoki will be postponed because Szolnoki plays the third game of Eurocup matchup next week. So Bertans will have to wait a little more before his season debut.

[SpursSerb]

We'll just have to wait till Thursday and a match against Maccabi.

[smaka]

444542500716687361

446293788416540672

[ace3g]

good test against Maccabi

[absoloot66]

444542500716687361

446293788416540672

Love his avatar!:lol

[El_Mago]

Anyone know what time the game tips off San Antonio time?

Thanks.

[smaka]

Anyone know what time the game tips off San Antonio time?

Thanks.

2:45 pm

[El_Mago]

2:45 pm

Thank you.

[smaka]

Not a good performance today, 1/7 FG in 15 mins, 2 reb, 2 TO, 4 fouls.

[ace3g]

http://distilleryimage7.ak.instagram.com/642ae5deb08a11e3b7090effa017eb17_8.jpg

[benefactor]

Not a good performance today, 1/7 FG in 15 mins, 2 reb, 2 TO, 4 fouls.
It will take some time. He wasn't going to set the world on fire his first game back.

[El_Mago]

Is that Anthony Carter and the Greek Shaq going after the ball?

[benefactor]

Can't tell if that's Carter but the other guy is definitely Snuffleupagus.

[smaka]

Is that Anthony Carter and the Greek Shaq going after the ball?


Can't tell if that's Carter but the other guy is definitely Snuffleupagus.

Devin Smith

[Mal]

Who`s better to do next year backup backup SF/Toros - Jean Charles or Bertrans ?

[Chinook]

Who`s better to do next year backup backup SF/Toros - Jean Charles or Bertrans ?

Depends on how they come back from injury. I like Jean-Charles for his defense and rebounding. He can play the four as well.

[BackHome]

Hanga as the backup SF/SG and Livio as a backup for PF/SF...:) I like Bertrans but I think his body is not developed enough to play in the NBA without breaking down give him another year.

[smaka]

Bertans already with 20 points against Lokomotiv Kuban. 4/4 for 2 and 4/6 from 3. 5 mins left.

[jyra]

Impressive numbers, especially if you consider that he just played 20 minutes in this game.

Too bad his team is already knocked out of the next round. They still have two more Euroleagues to play though, on April 4th and 11th.

[ABC]

Partizan has Adriatic League play after Euroleague, right?

[yavozerb]

http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?clubcode=PAR&gamecode=214&seasoncode=E2013#!boxscore

Think the spurs found a really good player in bertans..check out todays highlights, not bad...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg4UzYoRWQg

[ABC]

Thanks yavozerb! Bertans looks faster than I remember (maybe I've been watching Daye too much).

[SpursSerb]

Partizan has Adriatic League play after Euroleague, right?

One more game in regular season and then F4.After that comes the Serbian league.

[ABC]

One more game in regular season and then F4.After that comes the Serbian league.

Thanks :toast

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkJ2RRlCUAEdXqR.jpg:large

[Maddog]

Hope he is not too attached to the number 44

[toki9]

Wait...he's got a partially amputated ring finger on his shooting hand? And he shoots that well? insane.

[smaka]

Wait...he's got a partially amputated ring finger on his shooting hand? And he shoots that well? insane.

Iirc he cut it off as a child while he was chopping wood or something like that.

[jyra]

Just tuned into Partizan - Zalgiris.
Bertans off to a good start with 6 points on two 3s. Also a good opportunity to get a look at Bogdan Bogdanovic.

Very good first half for Bertans, 10 points on 8 shots and 5 rebounds. Outside of those 3s he had a reverse layup on a heady backdoor cut and then had a great sequence where he rebounded the ball, ran the length of the court and finished with a strong two handed dunk.

Not a good stint here in the 3rd. Two forced 3s and a blocked shot on a drive. Partizan not doing a good job setting him up with screens though, pretty much just giving him the ball on the wing and asking him to create something.
He also switched from playing SF to PF. At least his effort on the boards has continued, up to 7 rebounds already.

Bogdanovic has been awfully passive so far not creating much of anything.

[SpursSerb]

Bertans 17 pts + 10 rebounds for 30 minutes.Looking much better than anyone expected.

[jyra]

I'm really surprised by his offensive versatility. When I first saw him I thought he would just be another one dimensional spot up shooter but his ball handling and ability to work off screens are coming along nicely.
Still don't know if he can defend anyone at the NBA level but his length is definitely an asset.

[yavozerb]

some video and boxscore from todays game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj7wWoz_NJc

http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=224&seasoncode=E2013#!boxscore

[ABC]

Thanks all :toast

[benefactor]

Bring him on.

[SpursSerb]

He scored 15 tonight against Radnicki in just 14 minutes he played.But he got also fouled out in that time.

[Prime Time]

He scored 15 tonight against Radnicki in just 14 minutes he played.But he got also fouled out in that time.
Well... at least he has that talent thing going on for him :downspin:

[jyra]

Programming note: Partizan play their last Euroleague game for this season in about 6 hours from now.
The opponent features some recognizable faces with Pops Mensah Bonsu, Malik Hairston and Carlos Arroyo.

Solid game for him: 11 pts/3 3pters/2 rebs/3 asts (including a nifty behind the back pass in transition).

[ABC]

Programming note: Partizan play their last Euroleague game for this season in about 6 hours from now.
The opponent features some recognizable faces with Pops Mensah Bonsu, Malik Hairston and Carlos Arroyo.

Solid game for him: 11 pts/3 3pters/2 rebs/3 asts (including a nifty behind the back pass in transition).

Thanks jyra. Here's the box, too: http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?pcode=003458&clubcode=PAR&gamecode=229&seasoncode=E2013#!boxscore

I don't remember him having foul problems in the past, but he had 5 fouls this game and fouled out of the last game. Is he just adjusting to being back or will this be an ongoing problem for him?

[jyra]

I don't remember him having foul problems in the past, but he had 5 fouls this game and fouled out of the last game. Is he just adjusting to being back or will this be an ongoing problem for him?

He has only played 5 games this season and averages 3.4 fouls/game in just 21.4 minutes. That means that per 36 minutes he is commiting 5.7 fouls/game which is Ian Mahinmi (6 fouls/per 36) territory.

These are his stats for past seasons: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Davis-Bertans-6320/stats/
You can see that he has always been a quite foul prone but never quite as bad as he is now. So you would think that those foul numbers will go down a bit.
I wonder if one cause for his high foul rate is being played both as SF and PF. Making that ingame transition from guarding the perimeter to defending paint is very difficult, especially for a skinny guy like him.

Definitely makes you appreciate a guy like Kawhi who can defend really well without fouling too much even more.

[ABC]

He has only played 5 games this season and averages 3.4 fouls/game in just 21.4 minutes. That means that per 36 minutes he is commiting 5.7 fouls/game which is Ian Mahinmi (6 fouls/per 36) territory.

These are his stats for past seasons: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Davis-Bertans-6320/stats/
You can see that he has always been a quite foul prone but never quite as bad as he is now. So you would think that those foul numbers will go down a bit.
I wonder if one cause for his high foul rate is being played both as SF and PF. Making that ingame transition from guarding the perimeter to defending paint is very difficult, especially for a skinny guy like him.

Definitely makes you appreciate a guy like Kawhi who can defend really well without fouling too much even more.

:tu If he plays for the Spurs, he shouldn't have to defend the paint. I think he will only play PF when the opposing team goes small/plays a stretch 4, so he would still be defending the perimeter.

[smaka]

Copying myself from antoher thread, but it applies to Bertans too:

If anyone is interested in watching him play, there is a final four game of adriatic league on Friday, 8 pm local time (1 pm SA time). Winner goes to the final, it's gonna be interesting to see him play in a big game.

[yavozerb]

Bertans team will be up against a team with Nurkic at center. Nurkic is expected to get drafted in the late lottery to early 20's..They just showed rc at courtside

[jyra]

I really don't like Partizan playing zone defense for long stretches that's not going to help Bertans develop on that end.

[yavozerb]

I really don't like Partizan playing zone defense for long stretches that's not going to help Bertans develop on that end.

Partizen playing like the spurs: bad defense, alot of turnovers, cannot hit free throws. Nurkic is one mean dude and just about broke Bertans nose with an elbow. Throwing around Bertans whenever they are matched up. Nurkic trying to keep up with Bertans on offense is a whole different matter, Nurkic to bench with 3 fouls in 1st half..

[smaka]

Partizen playing like the spurs: bad defense, alot of turnovers, cannot hit free throws. Nurkic is one mean dude and just about broke Bertans nose with an elbow. Throwing around Bertans whenever they are matched up. Nurkic trying to keep up with Bertans on offense is a whole different matter, Nurkic to bench with 3 fouls in 1st half..

Nurkic has always had problems with personal fouls..

[BackHome]

So how is Bertrans doing on offense and with regards to Nurkic do you think we should draft him?

Does Bertrans play with Bogdan Bogdanovic?

[ABC]

http://www.abaliga.com/game/184/Cedevita-Partizan_NIS#statistic_FullStatistic

Game to forget for Bertans.

[smaka]

So how is Bertrans doing on offense and with regards to Nurkic do you think we should draft him?

Does Bertrans play with Bogdan Bogdanovic?

Nurkic is one of the most physical centers you'll see in Europe. His body is simply huge. He is definitely a prospect, but as I said, has trouble with getting in foul trouble regularly. I've seen him foul out in 15 minutes or even less.

Bertans plays with Bogdanovic, yes.

[smaka]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJyhxnv-m9Q

How the game ended, wow.

[jyra]

Too bad that they lost. I would have loved to see a Bertans-Saric matchup in the finals.
Hopefully, we can see him on the Spurs' summer league team next.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HK0kzubdV9Y

[BackHome]

Bertrans start hitting the weight room bro we need ya next season!!!!

[maverick1948]

If he is going to progress, he will have to come to the USA and play in D league if nothing else. Minutes in Europe are not enough. He NEEDS court time.

[exstatic]

If he is going to progress, he will have to come to the USA and play in D league if nothing else. Minutes in Europe are not enough. He NEEDS court time.

Uh, the Euroleague is a MUCH higher level of bball than the dleague. He's right where he needs to be to develop without using a roster spot. When he's ready, they'll bring him over and he'll play. There's zero point in paying him an NBA salary to shuttle back and forth between SA and Austin if he isn't ready.

[BackHome]

I agree and I think he is ready to take over Bonners position so welcome to the coaching staff Red. It takes around one to two years before a player get's comfortable or playing time so let him come in and learn from the best. Will he come in and be a starter nope but he can get five to ten minutes a game and work on his body as far as getting stronger.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Uh, the Euroleague is a MUCH higher level of bball than the dleague. He's right where he needs to be to develop without using a roster spot. When he's ready, they'll bring him over and he'll play. There's zero point in paying him an NBA salary to shuttle back and forth between SA and Austin if he isn't ready.

Plus he's under contract over there until the summer of 2015.

[bluebellmaniac]

Plus he's under contract over there until the summer of 2015.


I don't have a link, but pretty sure there is a doable buyout in his contract. Pretty sure it would have been noted all over the place if not.

[smaka]

Uh, the Euroleague is a MUCH higher level of bball than the dleague. He's right where he needs to be to develop without using a roster spot. When he's ready, they'll bring him over and he'll play. There's zero point in paying him an NBA salary to shuttle back and forth between SA and Austin if he isn't ready.
His team didn't qualify to Euroleague for the next year.

[eDizzle20]

I would be a little surprised and disappointed if they Spurs didn't bring him over for the start of next season. As it stands right now if Duncan and Ginobili retire after next season there will be a lot of new faces for the 2015-2016 season. Even if Bertans does not play much next season I think he gains a lot to learn just being around the players.

[BackHome]

I would be a little surprised and disappointed if they Spurs didn't bring him over for the start of next season. As it stands right now if Duncan and Ginobili retire after next season there will be a lot of new faces for the 2015-2016 season. Even if Bertans does not play much next season I think he gains a lot to learn just being around the players.

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[yavozerb]

+1

Bertans need to stay in europe and get legit playing time for another year. He has already missed 3/4 of last season due to injury and no reason to come over and sit on the bench. He is a big part of his current team and should play 25+ mpg .We need to face the fact the spurs are going to suck after the 2015 season at least for that 1st season post TD and Manu and no reason to ruin young players development in the mean time.

[Chinook]

Bertans need to stay in europe and get legit playing time for another year. He has already missed 3/4 of last season due to injury and no reason to come over and sit on the bench. He is a big part of his current team and should play 25+ mpg .We need to face the fact the spurs are going to suck after the 2015 season at least for that 1st season post TD and Manu and no reason to ruin young players development in the mean time.

Bertans is going to need time to adjust to living on another continent and playing against much tougher competition. It would be better for him to do that next year when he'd be in Austin than in 2015 where he'd be expected to be in the rotation. The d-league isn't near the competition of elite European leagues, but it's a better medium for learning the NBA game and Spurs' system.

[yavozerb]

Bertans is going to need time to adjust to living on another continent and playing against much tougher competition. It would be better for him to do that next year when he'd be in Austin than in 2015 where he'd be expected to be in the rotation. The d-league isn't near the competition of elite European leagues, but it's a better medium for learning the NBA game and Spurs' system.

Interesting, so you think by playing in Austin he will play against tougher competition? Also would not worry about the spurs system cause when TD,manu, and coach pop leave in about 2 seasons the system will probably change once again. Bertans seems to come over every summer to do his work in San Antonio, so the culture shock will not be as bad as some might think. The kid needs to stay over in europe and work on his game against very good (austin = average profesional league) players and do this on another teams dime.

[Chinook]

Interesting, so you think by playing in Austin he will play against tougher competition? Also would not worry about the spurs system cause when TD,manu, and coach pop leave in about 2 seasons the system will probably change once again. Bertans seems to come over every summer to do his work in San Antonio, so the culture shock will not be as bad as some might think. The kid needs to stay over in europe and work on his game against very good (austin = average profesional league) players and do this on another teams dime.

No one needs to care about whose dime it's on. Bertans is going to make pennies by NBA standards for a few years. It's an expense the team can easily afford.

I didn't say the d-league was better competition (said the opposite). I said it would help him get more used to the NBA game and the Spurs' system, since the Toros run that.

The thing is, Bertans isn't likely to play right away whether he comes over this summer or next. He's simply got too much to learn. Yet there is also has a decent chance he can sneak in as Kawhi's backup either year. If the Spurs sign him this year, he has a good chance to gaining the team's confidence in 2015. If he waits a year, the team may well not consider him a sure bet for the rotation and sign a vet wing like they did this year with Beli.

Also note that Bertans is only competing with Daye if he comes over this year, whereas he will be up against Jean-Charles (in whom the team has invested more) if he waits.

[CGD]

If this kid even just becomes the next Matt bonner, that George Hill trade will have to go down as one of the best con jobs ever pulled off on an NBA draft night.

[spurraider21]

Matt Bonner and Austin Daye are two Spurs who very well might not be back, and Bertans could easily make use of one of those spots, not like much will be expected from an Austin Daye replacement. He can spend all the time in the world under close watch over at Austin if need be

[smaka]

If this kid even just becomes the next Matt bonner, that George Hill trade will have to go down as one of the best con jobs ever pulled off on an NBA draft night.
Even if he never plays for the Spurs, that trade was one of the best ever.

[yavozerb]

http://instagram.com/p/oskPT5wOKo/

Damn, we need to to get this kid here before he gets hurt by crazy ass fans over there..

[Uriel]

I think it's fairly likely Bertans comes over this summer to replace Matt Bonner in the stretch 4 role.

[exstatic]

I think it's fairly likely Bertans comes over this summer to replace Matt Bonner in the stretch 4 role.

He's tall, but not really a four.

[Redshadows]

I think it's fairly likely Bertans comes over this summer to replace Matt Bonner in the stretch 4 role.
Bertans is a SF.

[Uriel]

Didn't the Spurs draft Bertans as a 4? In any case, if Pop can play Austin Daye in the stretch 4 role, there's no reason to think he won't do the same with Bertans.

[exstatic]

Didn't the Spurs draft Bertans as a 4? In any case, if Pop can play Austin Daye in the stretch 4 role, there's no reason to think he won't do the same with Bertans.

Daye played garbage time. If he ever played against a real 4, he'd get abused in the post, as would Bertans.

[CGD]

Looking at the videos it looks like Bertans has underrated speed; not fast, but certainly faster than I remember from the early draft scouting reports. He'd be slotted at the backup 3 next year would be my guess. The other thought is that over time he may be able to play the shooting guard, similar to the big, relatively slower SGs in the mold of Steven Smith, Hedo Turk, or Stojaković. Leonard and a defensive minded pg can help cover on the defensive end. Again this is a few years into the future but just thought. LJC can be Leonard's back up at that time.

Daye probably has more stretch for potential, but he needs to go on the Boris Diaw 1.0 diet this summer. It's not like he's that fast anyway where putting on more weight would be detrimental. Fewer players are as intelligent as Boris, but with Dayes handles and his range I see some point forward ability there like Boris. Again, it all depends on whether he can bulk up. He should talk to Robert Horry about how made that transition from when he was with the Rockets to when he moved to the Lakers.

[stnick2261]

Bertans is a 3... LJC is more of a 4 than him

[BackHome]

Yeah Bertrans will do his damage from the outside but he does have the handles to take it in for a dunk and plays pretty good defense.

LVJ is more of a mid range guy who will be doing a lot of damage in the paint.

[Baam]

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[Rito3d30]

WTF is this
3 on 5:wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VF5lEw9oCU

[exstatic]

WTF is this
3 on 5:wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VF5lEw9oCU

It looks like the same two teams from the brawl. Maybe this was the conclusion of that game at a later date? There are virtually no fans in the arena. Various players had been ejected, and they had to finish with who was left, I guess.

Two notes:

The team with five should be owning, and they're not. Those are the softest traps in history.

I'll bet the arena is not air conditioned.

[smaka]

WTF is this
3 on 5:wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VF5lEw9oCU


It looks like the same two teams from the brawl. Maybe this was the conclusion of that game at a later date? There are virtually no fans in the arena. Various players had been ejected, and they had to finish with who was left, I guess.

Two notes:

The team with five should be owning, and they're not. Those are the softest traps in history.

I'll bet the arena is not air conditioned.
There is a very known rivarly between Partizan and Red Star, they are from the same city and are huge rivals, so are the fans. There was a group brawl in this game, many players got ejected so there were only 5 players left on the court and yeah, the arema got emptied as well, and it was far from first time. After the game, Partizan wanted to boycott the rest of the games (this was the first game of the finals), but later decided they will play. Blew them out in game 2.

[BackHome]

Didn't the Spurs draft Bertans as a 4? In any case, if Pop can play Austin Daye in the stretch 4 role, there's no reason to think he won't do the same with Bertans.

Austin sucks he is the slowest NBA player I have ever seen Timmy looks like Flash compared to him.

[100%duncan]

Can u guys upload the 3v5 game. It was removed

[smaka]

Looks like Bertans is coming over for next season:

@DBertans_44: Bogdan (@LeaderOfHorde) is Serbian Kobe Bryant.He might have a better shot than Bryant. Next season we will both be in the NBA