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GuaranSHEED36

06-09-2005, 04:05 PM

I keep hearing all the spurs fans saying ben doesn't deserve dpoy and its a bogus award and its proven because he won't guard Duncan. Ok first and foremost if your DPOY it doesn't mean you have to guard the other teams best man, Ben is literally 6'8 but listed at 6'9 and duncan is taller and stronger but Rasheed matches up well. Ben is the best zone defender in the league and you can ask any coach, yes even greg popovich how important ben is as a defender. He is arguably the most feared defender in the league because teams hesistate to drive when hes in the lane.

Artest won DPOY last year, does that mean he should guard Duncan or Shaq if he played the spurs or heat?
Shaq called out ben saying IF YOUR DPOY SHOW ME... well then I guess Shaq is saying that Elden Campbell is the TRUE DPOY because shaq only made one field goal in 7 games when Elden was guarding him.
Ben does all the little things you don't notice and he does deserve defensive player of the year because he's the key and heart and soul to our defense. No ben isn't the greatest 1 on 1 defender but he can still play great 1 on 1 defense and is the best zone defender in the league.

And both pistons fans and spurs fans should shut up about both teams beating teams with injuries... injuries are a part of the game
Do you want the pistons to wait for wade to heal? Should the spurs take it easy on the sonics or suns b/c joe johnson and rashard are out? its part of the game and I don't want to hear that the pistons are a fluke team... 2 years in a row to the finalsa nd winning a game 7 on the road...

I'm very excited about this series because both teams play exacty alike but I'm just worried for the Pistons because the Spurs have so much depth, and they rented glenn robinson to try and win a championchip... i respect everyone on the spurs team except glenn robinson because he doesn't deserve one as he joined the spurs late in the season and doens't work hard

peace
PISTONS IN 6
(my opinion)

bigzak25

06-09-2005, 04:08 PM

big ben deserved it...so did bruce bowen though....td too IF he hadn't gotten hurt.

Ishta

06-09-2005, 04:09 PM

Actually Robinson has been working very hard on this Spurs team.... Being as you are not a Spurs fan I doubt that you have watched more than a handful of games that he has played for us in....To answer whether or not I think Big Ben deserves DPOY...uhhh No, Bruce Bowen is an awesome defender who should have won it THIS year... Not saying he is not a great defensive player....

SPURS IN 6
ONE TEAM, ONE GOAL
GO SPURS GO

samikeyp

06-09-2005, 04:12 PM

I keep hearing all the spurs fans saying ben doesn't deserve dpoy

Do you lie often?

Several Spurs fans on this board, myself included, have said that Wallace did deserve it...so then you are lying when you say "All Spurs fans"

Sounds like you are doing the hating.

nkdlunch

06-09-2005, 04:17 PM

Ben deserved it as much as Nash deserved MVP

picnroll

06-09-2005, 04:20 PM

Something I've always wanted to know GuaranSheed36, is Ben Wallace Don King's illegitimate child?

ZStomp

06-09-2005, 04:20 PM

I haven't seen too many posts discrediting Wallace's DPOY.

fekz

06-09-2005, 04:23 PM

I haven't seen too many posts discrediting Wallace's DPOY.

Bruce Bowen deserved the DPOY. I love his kung fu defense.

samikeyp

06-09-2005, 04:24 PM

Yeah but who deserves a kick in the face more than Wally? :lol

spurs_fan_in_exile

06-09-2005, 04:24 PM

Hell yeah that's defense. I don't see Wally scoring on that play!

ZStomp

06-09-2005, 04:24 PM

Bruce Bowen deserved the DPOY. I love his kung fu defense.

I love that play cuz I don't like Wally.

PS. You act as if Bowen did that on purpose. please... :rolleyes

Yea, pick one play and make your judgement on that..

Spurspride

06-09-2005, 05:06 PM

Bruce Bowen deserved the DPOY. I love his kung fu defense.

http://www.thefilebucket.com/userfiles/salmonela/bowen_szczerbiak.gif
:rollin
That Pic makes me laugh bruce lee bowen! you have much to learn grasshopper boot to the face

nkdlunch

06-09-2005, 05:07 PM

Bruce Bowen deserved the DPOY. I love his kung fu defense.

:lol finally Rip's mask will be useful

spurs_fan_in_exile

06-09-2005, 05:11 PM

I think the case could be made that both Ben and Bruce's defensive reputations have benefited greatly from the guys playing around them. I've always thought this was the most nebulous of the post season awards because an MVP's statline always looks good. But just because a guy has a lot of blocks, steals, or boards doesn't necessarily mean that he earned all of them. Or that a guy without the big stat line didn't make an impact. Does Wallace benefit from having a group of guys who can force players into him? Sure. Does Bowen benefit from having shot blockers clog the paint? Of course. I still feel that Bowen should have won, but Wallace is certainly deserving.

Jimcs50

06-09-2005, 05:15 PM

OK, let's have a contest.

I say TD scores more on Ben than Rip scores on Bruce.

This will tell us just who the real DPOY is.

PistonsNation

06-09-2005, 05:20 PM

You can't mess with Ben's defensive #'s. If anyone is gonna try to say he shouldn't have been the DPOY then you're outta your skull. Ben changes games by his defense like very few who's came before him.

ObiwanGinobili

06-09-2005, 05:23 PM

I haven't seen too many posts discrediting Wallace's DPOY.
Ditto.

I thoguth he deserved it.
Although i would've given my vote to Bowen... i can se how this wouldn've been a tough decision.

Brutalis

06-09-2005, 05:41 PM

Bowen should have won it last year as well. And that is not being biased.

jochhejaam

06-09-2005, 06:04 PM

OK, let's have a contest.

I say TD scores more on Ben than Rip scores on Bruce.

This will tell us just who the real DPOY is.

Better yet. lets just check to see who has more blocked shots and offensive rebounds and total rebounds and most steals per game....(checking).....(still researching)....hmm, Ben, Ben, Ben and Ben again!
It's settled, Ben's the best! :lol

p.s. Ben also has a higher field goal percentage, more points per game and more assists... :lol

SouthernFried

06-09-2005, 06:14 PM

IamJacksJersey

06-09-2005, 06:18 PM

It's not hard to look like a great defensive player when you play a defense that funnels everything toward you. Same as Ray Lewis is an overrated linebacker, he plays in a system made to funnel things to the middle linebacker.

jochhejaam

06-09-2005, 06:19 PM

Like I've said a gazillion times...morons just watch the obvious things like blocked shots. Why Bowen will never get DPOY...most people can't comprehend that defense means other things besides blocked shots.

These are the same morons who think Shreq is the best basketball player cuz he dunksalot.

In other words you have nothing but an opinion (which you are entitled to) to back up your theory? :lol

Actually they're both 1st team all defense, who cares which one is the best...give me some Finals wins!! :elephant

boutons

06-09-2005, 06:37 PM

jochhejaam

06-09-2005, 06:45 PM

you think our opinion sucks
with think your your opinion sucks
go back to your Pistons board and preach to the choir,
you ain't making any headway here

STFU

plonk

I sure wish there was an option "add <troll> to your IGNORE list" on a poster's left-click pop-down menu, sure would simplify IGNOREing all these brain-dead assholes.

The thread was started to get peoples opinions, no one ever stated that anyones opinions sucked!!! People that post messages like yours are pissed off because they can't back up their opinions with facts...always a sure sign of a lack of education!! :nope :baby
And you aren't the owner of this board, it's open to everyone and if you don't like it don't read it!!! :lol :lol :elephant :lol :lol

Leetonidas

06-09-2005, 06:48 PM

Ben is 6-9? I always thought he was 7. Nazr's 7 feet, so maybe he can abuse "Big" Ben. :lol

Rummpd

06-09-2005, 06:56 PM

BW as DOP is BS period this year.

dcole50

06-09-2005, 07:49 PM

he's a top three defender. top three.