Timmy D & Antonio D

[sontino]

So the "Big Fundamental" won't take a picture with some excited 9 year old basketball players, well because he's Tim Duncan.....
Antonio Daniels won't run a simple quick basketball clinic on an outdoor court....well because he's a has been...

I miss the old days when the players were cool, like Ice, the A-train, Junior, etc...

Whatever losers!! :bang

Long time Spurs fan.

[ChumpDumper]

They are terrible, terrible people.

[Spursfan092120]

Tim constantly signs autographs and loves kids...don't know much about AD...don't come in here with that garbage..you don't know the situation.

[Spursfan092120]

Tim Duncan Foundation
Tim Duncan Bowling for Charity
Helps out with Special Olympics...

what a jerk.

[sontino]

How do I not know the situation? its a kid's game! Not trying to be a jerk.
Just callin it like I witnessed it...Sorry if it bursts your bubble....

AD had a meltdown when he found out he had to work outside.......

[Spursfan092120]

How do I not know the situation? its a kid's game! Not trying to be a jerk.
Just callin it like I witnessed it...Sorry if it bursts your bubble....

AD had a meltdown when he found out he had to work outside.......

Just saying you don't know the situation with Timmy...I don't know much about AD...but Timmy might have been in a hurry and had something to do. He's a great guy in the community and is one of the few superstars in the league that will sign autographs when asked.

[sontino]

[QUOTE=Spursfan092120;5268794]Just saying you don't know the situation with Timmy...I don't know much about AD...but Timmy might have been in a hurry and had something to do. He's a great guy in the community and is one of the few superstars in the league that will sign autographs when asked.[/

Naw, he wasn't in a hurry, it was while he was hurt at the end of the season. My point is don't know about high priced millionaires sometimes....

[xellos88330]

Naw, he wasn't in a hurry, it was while he was hurt at the end of the season. My point is don't know about high priced millionaires sometimes....

Duncan does enough around the community as it is. To change your opinion of him because he didn't give you what you wanted isn't really fair to him. I don't think the fact that he is a millionaire has anything to do with what happened. Ask yourself this question, "If I was asked to have my picture taken with complete strangers for the 100th time in maybe the last hour, while on my personal time no less, would I really want to do it?"

[sontino]

Duncan does enough around the community as it is. To change your opinion of him because he didn't give you what you wanted isn't really fair to him. I don't think the fact that he is a millionaire has anything to do with what happened. Ask yourself this question, "If I was asked to have my picture taken with complete strangers for the 100th time in maybe the last hour, while on my personal time no less, would I really want to do it?"

I mentioned they were kids, right??

[Spursfan092120]

I mentioned they were kids, right??

Yes...you mentioned they were kids. Tim Duncan does a lot in our community for children...a LOT..as I notated earlier. Sometimes a guy just wants a little personal time...a little space. For everything he's done in the community and on the court for this city, he's earned it.

[Libri]

By any chance, were those kids wearing Bonner jerseys?

[sontino]

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Duncan, wouldnt mention it if it wasnt bothersome, but it was. Been a fan since the ABA/NBA merger, so I was still cheering for the Spurs. But once I accepted that Gasol was too much, I cant lie, I had a litle satisfaction :)

[sontino]

By any chance, were those kids wearing Bonner jerseys?

:lmao

[Leetonidas]

:cry Tim Duncan didn't sign my kids autograph what a classless jerk :cry

[dbreiden83080]

I remember watching NBA TV in 2005 or so at the all star game fan weekend. Duncan was signing jerseys for kids left and right.. He is hardly an asshole when it comes to that stuff..

[ChuckD]

So the "Big Fundamental" won't take a picture with some excited 9 year old basketball players, well because he's Tim Duncan.....
Antonio Daniels won't run a simple quick basketball clinic on an outdoor court....well because he's a has been...

I miss the old days when the players were cool, like Ice, the A-train, Junior, etc...

Whatever losers!! :bang

Long time Spurs fan.

Antonio Daniels hasn't worn the Black and Silver in almost a decade. I believe the Spurs traded him in the summer of 2002 after he handed the starting PG spot that Pop gave him to TP the previous fall. Way to stay current, douche.

[Spursfan092120]

I remember watching NBA TV in 2005 or so at the all star game fan weekend. Duncan was signing jerseys for kids left and right.. He is hardly an asshole when it comes to that stuff..

Back when security would let you, you could go down to the tunnel where the Spurs came out, and Manu, Tony, Tim, and Bruce etc...would sign autographs for everyone on their way back into the locker room after warmups before the game.

[ChuckD]

People don't understand that outside of the basketball environment, players are just people. Tim gets sent to pick up a gallon of milk or some ingredient for dinner, or to pick up his kids at soccer practice just like anyone else. He has to be home on time, or just like Joe Schmo, there will be hell to pay. Stop being a cheap ass, and go to a game with lower level seats, get there early for a wristband, and get an autograph in the right environment.

[duhoh]

he's not allowed to be a person that wants some space?

makes him a jerk huh?

[sontino]

Antonio Daniels hasn't worn the Black and Silver in almost a decade. I believe the Spurs traded him in the summer of 2002 after he handed the starting PG spot that Pop gave him to TP the previous fall. Way to stay current, douche.

Nice. I should call you the douche who has the Knicks as their team. Haha..
Wow.

[Spursfan092120]

Nice. I should call you the douche who has the Knicks as their team. Haha..
Wow.

Dude..you can't judge a person based on their team..I even like some of the Laker and Mavs fans on here...uncalled for...

[sontino]

ok

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[itzsoweezee]

Lol, you're a whiny little moron. If I was Tim, I'd never sign autographs, especially not for some spoiled ass little kids.

[Sean Cagney]

MY GOD he is human and one day he did not want to sign autographs so he is a jerk and you don't like him anymore? Maybe it was a horrible day and maybe he had something else going on at the time in his mind? Maybe he wanted some space. He could sign autographs for 9 days and on the 10th he doesn't so he is a jerk? Get a grip he is HUMAN.


I have bad days as well and act out of character or am not as nice as others, guess me and others are a jerk as well? Relax, it is not that serious he is a good dude and obviously had his own reasons. I have heard such and such athlete is an ass and the next person or so will say they are cool as hell! Depends on the day and so on.

[mingus]

The standard Tim is held to personally is David Robinson around SA. Which is unfair. Rob isn't human he's so damn nice.

[Sean Cagney]

The standard Tim is held to personally is David Robinson around SA. Which is unfair. Rob isn't human he's so damn nice.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT I had one dude during the all star game which D Rob was in around 01 or so tell me that his mom said dude was a jerk? I can't believe it at all, but damn man always one out there who caught them on a bad day or just one out there to spread a rumor. I looked at him and said are you serious? D ROB an ass? WOW.

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

true mingus d rob is an arc angel in san antonio

[Spursfan092120]

The standard Tim is held to personally is David Robinson around SA. Which is unfair. Rob isn't human he's so damn nice.

I met Dave and I've met Tim. Honestly, Tim is nicer. Dave is a great community guy, and has done so much for San Antonio, but when it comes to friendly and having personality, Tim outshines Dave.

[silverblackfan]

The standard Tim is held to personally is David Robinson around SA. Which is unfair. Rob isn't human he's so damn nice.

Truth. Love that guy. Can't every match him, but love that guy.

[Oh, Gee!!]

My point is don't know about high priced millionaires sometimes....

dude, I'm a low-priced thousandaire (when I'm lucky) and I do dick for the kids or anyone else for that matter. Chances are that I'd be a total asshole if we ever interacted anywhere in public. Point being, I'm your average guy. If I was a Millionaire, I'd probably have you and your entire family killed just for breathing on me in the HEB. Be happy that Tim or any other NBA star does what he does for the community. If it was you or me, those poor kids would starve to death.

[joshdaboss]

I think people are losing sight of the fact that if wasn't for fans, people like Tim Duncan would be flipping burgers. It's totally appropriate to expect something from them. It's the least they can do, to sign a child's autograph.

[itzsoweezee]

I think people are losing sight of the fact that if wasn't for fans, people like Tim Duncan would be flipping burgers. It's totally appropriate to expect something from them. It's the least they can do, to sign a child's autograph.

Awesome logic there.

If it wasn't for computers buyers, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates would be flipping burgers. Should they also be at the mercy of the childish masses?

Should I expect Denzel Washington to wash my car if I watch his movies?

[Oh, Gee!!]

hey guy I've never met, sign this thing I'm shoving in your face as you're walking to the locker room to throw up or shit or cry or something else I can't understand because I'm not expected to score 30 points every night on demand.

[Sean Cagney]

I think people are losing sight of the fact that if wasn't for fans, people like Tim Duncan would be flipping burgers. It's totally appropriate to expect something from them. It's the least they can do, to sign a child's autograph.

Tim probably would be swimming if it were not for bball and we would hardly know him! I am glad he brought my fave team 4 titlles as a fan and all the memories, and I don't need an autograph to make him my fave player of all times! If I saw him I would nod or say you are the man TIM! That is all. If he signs every auto for every kid he sees in public that would be his life!

I am sure he has signed ALOT and done alot in his lifetime, on top of that brought us 4 titles as fans and countless memories! Peace.

[joshdaboss]

Awesome logic there.

If it wasn't for computers buyers, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates would be flipping burgers. Should they also be at the mercy of the childish masses?

Should I expect Denzel Washington to wash my car if I watch his movies?

Horrible logic here. lol Considering both of them have genius-level IQs.

Also, nobody asked someone to wash their car. Some children asked for a simple autograph. Not only should he have done it for previous reasons stated, but he should be flattered.

[100%duncan]

cool story bro :wakeup

[Spursfan092120]

I think people are losing sight of the fact that if wasn't for fans, people like Tim Duncan would be flipping burgers. It's totally appropriate to expect something from them. It's the least they can do, to sign a child's autograph.

Yeah, because his degree in psychology would have him flipping burgers
:rolleyes

[joshdaboss]

Yeah, because his degree in psychology would have him flipping burgers
:rolleyes

Do you think he gets a scholarship if he isn't Tim Duncan, future NBA star?

[ChuckD]

Do you think he gets a scholarship if he isn't Tim Duncan, future NBA star?

His two sisters are college educated, and not NBA stars.

Do you think athletic scholarships are the only way through college?

Famous people don't owe you shit. If he signs at games and Spurs events where signing is expected, I'm OK with that.

[joshdaboss]

Famous people don't owe you shit. If he signs at games and Spurs events where signing is expected, I'm OK with that.

Of course they do, because without people like me they wouldn't enjoy the luxuries that they currently enjoy. They would be living paycheck-to-paycheck.

[sontino]

Yeah, because his degree in psychology would have him flipping burgers
:rolleyes

He wasnt asked to sign anything. It was a picture with kids. If it was an adult thing understandable, OK. All he had to do was stand there. Really, Tim???

[sontino]

Lol, you're a whiny little moron. If I was Tim, I'd never sign autographs, especially not for some spoiled ass little kids.

Please read. It was a picture. And I'm nt whiny. Just pointing out that things were cool in the old days when the Spurs were making 50k (a lot back then). Shit. The Spurs would drink with the fans at the Lone Star Pavilion. Now the mind set is different. You can't tell me the money has nothing to do with it cause it does. Athletes today are constantly told how great they are. And sorry, nt spoiled, just came off a big comeback victory and saw one of their heroes...

[ElNono]

He had better things to do, like drive his Porsche to HEB to do groceries... deal with it.

[THE HATER]

what the hell is everyone talking about? what happened?

[ChuckD]

Of course they do, because without people like me they wouldn't enjoy the luxuries that they currently enjoy. They would be living paycheck-to-paycheck.

So, go to a signing event or a game. It's not your fucking goodwill that pays his salary, it's hard cash put down in support of your team. Tim doesn't make a dime out of both of you being at HEB, or the theater, or anywhere else you happen to run into him.

[ploto]

I met Dave and I've met Tim. Honestly, Tim is nicer. Dave is a great community guy, and has done so much for San Antonio, but when it comes to friendly and having personality, Tim outshines Dave.

It matters where you run into Tim. If he is alone or with the guys it is very different than when he is with his wife and kids. I would hope that fans would get the difference. Dave is pretty much the same always.

[Kori Ellis]

I think David is nice, friendly and polite almost all the time. Honestly, I have heard of Tim (and almost everyone else) turning down kids for autographs/pictures many times before. It just depends on when you catch him. If he's with his family, running late, busy, in a bad mood, whatever -- then he might say, "Sorry, not right now" -- and there's nothing wrong with that.

[ohmwrecker]

what the hell is everyone talking about? what happened?

Some dope is all butthurt because Tim Duncan has a personal life.

[Budkin]

You are out of your fucking mind.

[timtonymanu]

I think people are losing sight of the fact that if wasn't for fans, people like Tim Duncan would be flipping burgers. It's totally appropriate to expect something from them. It's the least they can do, to sign a child's autograph.

Yeah because we all know Duncan didn't finish college.

Oh wait... he did.

[mingus]

I think people are losing sight of the fact that if wasn't for fans, people like Tim Duncan would be flipping burgers. It's totally appropriate to expect something from them. It's the least they can do, to sign a child's autograph.

for me personally, anything they do off the bball court is just gravy. we pay to see games, in some cases pay league pass to watch games. the ticket and NBA t.v. contract don't say that any time i ask for an autograph i will get it.

and if signing a child's autogrpah is "the least they can do" i'm curious what else you think the should do for you. pay for your meal when you see them at McDonalds? take your groceries to your car when you see them at H.E.B.? scrub your windows when you see them at gas station? you shouldn't expect anything from them other than a basketball game

and also you're giving a one-sided argument. you say "if it wasn't for fans..." look at the other side. if it wasn't for the Tim and the Spurs...(insert whatever). it's a two way street, acting like he's the only one recieving anything is wrong.

that said, he may have just had a bad day. it happens to everyone.

[Spursfan092120]

Do you think he gets a scholarship if he isn't Tim Duncan, future NBA star?

You do know he was training for the Olympics as a swimmer, right? And why does someone have to have a scholarship to go to college? Not every athlete is an imbecile.

[Spursfan092120]

Of course they do, because without people like me they wouldn't enjoy the luxuries that they currently enjoy. They would be living paycheck-to-paycheck.

:rollin:rollin
I'm laughing my ass off right now. You think that the only way an athlete can be successful is by being an athlete? Do you have any idea how many very intelligent college graduates play professional sports? You need to grow up, or wake up..one or the other. It's not just about us. Do you have any idea how much the Spurs have done for the economy of San Antonio? Those championships they've won, because of Tim...

[pancakechef]

:rollin:rollin
I'm laughing my ass off right now. You think that the only way an athlete can be successful is by being an athlete? Do you have any idea how many very intelligent college graduates play professional sports? You need to grow up, or wake up..one or the other. It's not just about us. Do you have any idea how much the Spurs have done for the economy of San Antonio? Those championships they've won, because of Tim...


Make me a list please.....

[pancakechef]

An estimated 60 percent of N.B.A. players are broke within five years of retiring, and 78 percent of N.F.L. (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_football_league/index.html?inline=nyt-org) players are bankrupt or under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce within two years, according to a report by Sports Illustrated in March (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364/index.htm). The magazine also reported that many baseball players struggle financially after retirement.

NY TIMES 2009.

First of all these intelligent beings don't "earn" their degree in HS or college.

LINK http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/sports/basketball/06nba.html

[Fernando TD21]

I think people are losing sight of the fact that if wasn't for fans, people like Tim Duncan would be flipping burgers. It's totally appropriate to expect something from them. It's the least they can do, to sign a child's autograph.
:lol

[Spursfan092120]

An estimated 60 percent of N.B.A. players are broke within five years of retiring, and 78 percent of N.F.L. (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_football_league/index.html?inline=nyt-org) players are bankrupt or under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce within two years, according to a report by Sports Illustrated in March (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364/index.htm). The magazine also reported that many baseball players struggle financially after retirement.

NY TIMES 2009.

First of all these intelligent beings don't "earn" their degree in HS or college.

LINK http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/sports/basketball/06nba.html

They do that because they're not forced to earn degrees, because the NBA gives them what they need. If they didn't have that, they would graduate, and get normal jobs. They don't graduate because the NBA offers them the millions they wouldn't get if they took a job as a psychiatrist, or professor, or whatever they chose to do. If they finished their degrees, they would have the degree to get a good job, and would be just fine. Since they leave school early, they have nothing else to do, though some of them go back to school and finish their degrees. If you really think Tim Duncan, who got a degree in psychology with honors from one of the most prestigious universities in the country, would be flipping burgers if he wasn't playing basketball, you're an idiot.

[bluefoot]

Probably between 1994-1999, I would sometimes try to get Spurs autographs during non-scheduled events. David wasn't always Saint David when it came to getting his autograph. Tim could look really pissed off about even being approached.

Both could get visibly disgruntled when it wasn't a scheduled signing but I got the impression they signed at least a few autographs most of the time.

I think Tim was always leery about someone selling his stuff on Ebay.

If they were bitchy about giving out autographs, I kind of got the picture why back then but now I completely understand. You had people sending their kids up to get $150 authentic jerseys or $70 gameballs signed and then sell them. You had adults right there with the kids. You had people that just grabbed a napkin or newspaper (sometimes even stuff with other players) just to see if they could scrounge up their autograph. You had people that followed them everywhere and already had 20+ autographs. You had sports memorabilia guys trying to get theirs.

If it got old for them, not hard to see why.

And people would get really pushy with them, sometimes just being completely rude. For example, they'd get one thing signed and then pull out a stack of basketball cards and expect them to sign all of them and tell them how to sign them. Some people would start telling them how to play better. I don't even remember everything but people got pretty rude.

I still remember one guy going up to Avery and telling Avery, Hey Avery, Can you go get Big D to sign this?

I'm sure it gets old. And 90% of the people still think how come they can't take 4 seconds and pose for a picture or sign an autograph? Most people never stop to do the math. These guys would still be signing if they signed every last piece of paper and stood for every last "just a picture".

The reason they can't just "hang out with the fans" is because most times the fans would absolutely mob the hell out of them. Even if they don't get mobbed, there's always those few that just can't leave them alone - the "I just had to do something, it was my chance" guys.

Somewhat off topic but I'm sure there are some people on here that are ballsy enough to walk up to some known Spurs like Bonner Hill and RJ and just trash them to their face.

So to the guy crying about the picture, it's not as simple as you'd like to think. For every just a picture, there's a 1,000 more right behind you. And no, the Spurs don't owe you anything.

[joshdaboss]

and if signing a child's autogrpah is "the least they can do" i'm curious what else you think the should do for you. pay for your meal when you see them at McDonalds? take your groceries to your car when you see them at H.E.B.? scrub your windows when you see them at gas station? you shouldn't expect anything from them other than a basketball game

Again, this is another case of someone getting ridiculous with it and not following logic. An autograph isn't hard to sign. It takes about the same amount of time to sign an autograph as it does to say "no". Again, it's about showing gratitude to the people who afford him the luxury of living the lifestyle that he does, because without people like me he's nothing.


and also you're giving a one-sided argument. you say "if it wasn't for fans..." look at the other side. if it wasn't for the Tim and the Spurs...(insert whatever). it's a two way street, acting like he's the only one recieving anything is wrong.

It isn't a two-way street. If it wasn't for the Spurs and Tim Duncan, I would live the same exact way I'm doing now; the same cannot be said for Tim.

[joshdaboss]

They do that because they're not forced to earn degrees, because the NBA gives them what they need. If they didn't have that, they would graduate, and get normal jobs. They don't graduate because the NBA offers them the millions they wouldn't get if they took a job as a psychiatrist, or professor, or whatever they chose to do. If they finished their degrees, they would have the degree to get a good job, and would be just fine. Since they leave school early, they have nothing else to do, though some of them go back to school and finish their degrees. If you really think Tim Duncan, who got a degree in psychology with honors from one of the most prestigious universities in the country, would be flipping burgers if he wasn't playing basketball, you're an idiot.

lol @ making excuses for millionaires because they're good at playing basketball.

[koriwhat]

AD walked into the tattoo parlor my buddy works at yesterday... i was up there eating some food they were bbq'ing outside for memorial day and chilling. AD walks in and i'm like, "that's Antonio Daniels huh?"

dude wanted the same tribal design on his left shoulder that he had already on his right shoulder. he was sporting some badass mercedes and some broke ass big titty white chick with no ass.

[gospursgojas]

I remember Tim doing alot of events at Homecourt America back in the day. But heres the thing...just bc he DID the charity events didn't mean he was a nice or cool guy. The whole time he sulked and looked totally uninterested...he smiled for camera flashes but for the rest of the time had a scowl on his face.

From what I have seen over the years hes not that nice in public, but WGAF he's a basketball legend and thats what matters most to me.

AD had that incident at HCA but other than that, he was actually was always really nice and courteous to all the staff when he would come into my restaurant.

Weird side note:
AD always paid not only in cash, but EXACT change. He carred what looked like a womens wallet that had a pocket for change and always paid his bill exactly.

[ambchang]

Duncan should sign autographs and pose with kids no matter the situation. I mean, even if Tim's house is on fire, or if Amy is hanging off a cliff needing someone to save her, Tim should ignore those things and take pictures with kids when prompted.

That'd be cool.