Apple sucks

[MannyIsGod]

Why would HP build a tablet that cost them $300+ to put together if they planned to sell it for $100 all along? Why would they invest that kind of money if they weren't competing with the $500 tablets? :lol

Sorry Manny, I disagree that what was a valid comparison 2 weeks ago isn't valid now.

whose saying HP wanted to sell it this cheap? I have no idea where you're coming up with this. They wanted to compete with the iPad obviously but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't.

[MannyIsGod]

you think there is a meaningful portion of people who are buying the touchpad for a reason other than the price, en? I'd say of course not.

[ElNono]

whose saying HP wanted to sell it this cheap? I have no idea where you're coming up with this. They wanted to compete with the iPad obviously but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't.

So you're basically agreeing with the post :lol

IIRC, the post said that this was crap compared to an iPad. You're saying you can't compare it because the iPad isn't $100. But the TP didn't cost $100 to make, nor it was sold initially at $100. It costs a lot more (http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/HP-TouchPad-Carries-$318-Bill-of-Materials.aspx).

The reason you bought it at $100 is that people compared and didn't buy it.
The $100 value is simply a reminder how crappy it is compared to other tablets.

[ElNono]

you think there is a meaningful portion of people who are buying the touchpad for a reason other than the price, en? I'd say of course not.

No. That's not what I'm saying at all.

[ElNono]

IOW, HP thought they could compete and priced accordingly. Then they realized that they couldn't, pulled the plug on it and sold the stock at a loss. Don't know why you would be able to compare them before and not now.

[MannyIsGod]

who cares what it cost to make? Definitely not a factor in my decision to buy it. Do you decide to buy something based on how much it cost too make or by how much it costs you?

Yes people compared it to the iPad and decided not to buy it but that was at 500 bdollars. Drop it to 100 and its in a class of its own.

[MannyIsGod]

IOW, HP thought they could compete and priced accordingly. Then they realized that they couldn't, pulled the plug on it and sold the stock at a loss. Don't know why you would be able to compare them before and not now.

really? How about the 400 price difference? Don't know about you but price is a fairly important factor in my buying decisions.

[ElNono]

who cares what it cost to make? Definitely not a factor in my decision to buy it. Do you decide to buy something based on how much it cost too make or by how much it costs you?

Yes people compared it to the iPad and decided not to buy it but that was at 500 bdollars. Drop it to 100 and its in a class of its own.

The only 'class on its own' that it is, is that you can probably resell it for over $100. Technically speaking (which what the comparison was about), the pricing is irrelevant.

IE: That the touch detection is crap compared to other tablets applies just as equally when it was $500 or $100.

[ElNono]

really? How about the 400 price difference? Don't know about you but price is a fairly important factor in my buying decisions.

The comparison was on technical aspects. Your argument is that now technical comparisons shouldn't be made because NOW there's a $400 price difference (which is more like $300, but I digress).

The hardware/software didn't change. The comparison is still just as valid.

[MannyIsGod]

The only 'class on its own' that it is, is that you can probably resell it for over $100. Technically speaking (which what the comparison was about), the pricing is irrelevant.

IE: That the touch detection is crap compared to other tablets applies just as equally when it was $500 or $100.

the class of its own has to do with no tablet at 100 being this good. Hasn't everyone here acknowledged the iPad is better? Who's is saying otherwise? You can compare it technically all you want but that's not what matters to consumers with a 500% price difference. How on earth can the most important factor in a decision, price, be irrelevant? Why would it be a technical comparison when brought up price?

[ElNono]

Oh, and the cost part matters, IMO, in the sense that if you're going to compare including pricing, the TP isn't a $100 tablet, even if it's being sold at that price. It's a $300+ tablet.

It's *great* for consumers that they can get one in the fire sale, but that doesn't change the fact that's a one time event, and the tablet is obviously a much more expensive device.

[MannyIsGod]

The comparison was on technical aspects. Your argument is that now technical comparisons shouldn't be made because NOW there's a $400 price difference (which is more like $300, but I digress).

The hardware/software didn't change. The comparison is still just as valid.

my point is that the technical superiority doesn't matter in the face of the price drop. The last weeks actions pretty much back that up. No one has disputed at any point the iPad is superior technically. No one.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh, and the cost part matters, IMO, in the sense that if you're going to compare including pricing, the TP isn't a $100 tablet, even if it's being sold at that price. It's a $300+ tablet.

It's *great* for consumers that they can get one in the fire sale, but that doesn't change the fact that's a one time event, and the tablet is obviously a much more expensive device.
it is a 100 dollar tablet. I have the receipt to prove it. Lol. All that matters to the consumer is what they pay.

[ElNono]

the class of its own has to do with no tablet at 100 being this good.

But there isn't going to be another tablet for $100 that is that good (at least in the foreseeable future). It's a $300+ tablet. I can't think there's many companies in the business of making $300+ tablets and sell them at $100. And any that are in that market ain't lasting long.

It's no 'class' at all because after this stock is gone, it's gone.

[ElNono]

it is a 100 dollar tablet. I have the receipt to prove it. Lol. All that matters to the consumer is what they pay.

Consumers can't buy that tablet anymore. There won't be another Touchpad for $100. It's great you have yours. This isn't 'a class of it's own', it's a 'one time fire sale'.

[MannyIsGod]

But there isn't going to be another tablet for $100 that is that good (at least in the foreseeable future). It's a $300+ tablet. I can't think there's many companies in the business of making $300+ tablets and sell them at $100. And any that are in that market ain't lasting long.

It's no 'class' at all because after this stock is gone, it's gone.

Well now you've just switched to arguing semantics. None of which I even disagree with. If you don't think its in a class of its own, cool.

[MannyIsGod]

Consumers can't buy that tablet anymore. There won't be another Touchpad for $100. It's great you have yours. This isn't 'a class of it's own', it's a 'one time fire sale'.

You know one take away from this is that tablets will likely have to be priced lower in the future (outside of Apple) because of this sale. So while I don't disagree with what you just said on a fundamental level, I think there is a sizeable chance that the consumer's perception of tablet cost has been changed for the long haul.

[ElNono]

IMO, that's a $300+ tablet, which is actually more expensive than an iPad to make (iPad BOM is $259), and it's seriously lacking.

And the point isn't that people agree that the iPad is superior. The point is that now that the firesale came and went, people are not supposed to be comparing the tablet to an iPad.

I think the comparison is valid. I think it was valid 2 weeks ago, and it's valid now. That's all. If you don't agree, well, then I agree to disagree.

[ElNono]

You know one take away from this is that tablets will likely have to be priced lower in the future (outside of Apple) because of this sale. So while I don't disagree with what you just said on a fundamental level, I think there is a sizeable chance that the consumer's perception of tablet cost has been changed for the long haul.

Maybe. I actually think this tablet proved that just putting the right components doesn't make a tablet. The whole software experience that comes with it is just as important if not more. This was a big bust for HP.

I've no doubt that prices will come down, but I also think it will happen for all companies as they compete.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh I agree its valid from a technical perspective but that was never my point. If it wasn't I wouldn't have brought price into the equation. You can compare ANYTHING on technical merits but thats not what consumers take into consideration.

We're arguing past each other because we're both making different points and I don't think either one of us actually disagrees on the points either of us is making.


For the record though, I don't think the touchpad is a bad tablet based on hardware. Its a really shitty OS and software package. The hardware is great and I think thats proven based on the modifications that people have made to it already. I think if ICS is able to run on this tablet it is going to be great and it will have a much larger app catalog to run with at that time.

[MannyIsGod]

Maybe. I actually think this tablet proved that just putting the right components doesn't make a tablet. The whole software experience that comes with it is just as important if not more. This was a big bust for HP.

I've no doubt that prices will come down, but I also think it will happen for all companies as they compete.

Yeah exactly. There's no doubt that the software is of utmost importance on them because there's really no way a sizeable hardware advantadge (if you could even get one) to manifest itself without good software to take advantadge of said hardware.

[ElNono]

The tablet hardware is substantially better than the iPad 1. Not sure about the iPad 2, but it might be comparable. That should tell you all you need to know how badly HP botched this, and how software and the experience between hardware/software make a huge deal.

I'd really like to know how much this firesale cost HP, tbh. There were seemingly a lot of units left, and they lost between $200-150 per unit on the price alone, without counting how much they spent on software dev and marketing. Ouch.

[Trainwreck2100]

Consumers can't buy that tablet anymore. There won't be another Touchpad for $100. It's great you have yours. This isn't 'a class of it's own', it's a 'one time fire sale'.

"not a class of it's own"

"one time event"

The fact that it's a one time event pretty much makes it a class of it's own.

[ElNono]

"not a class of it's own"

"one time event"

The fact that it's a one time event pretty much makes it a class of it's own.

tbh, I took the 'class of it's own' to mean 'the new sub $200 tablet market' class type of thing. Manny can correct me if I misunderstood.

[MannyIsGod]

Its pretty obvious to me by how fast they went they even fucked up the firesale. They could have sold them at 2x the cost and still sold them all but at a slower rate. I wouldn't have bought one at 200 but considering how fast they went I have no doubts that people would have gotten into them at that price.

The problem for HP is that coming in at this stage of the tablet game with such an expensive tablet you can't just stick it out there and feel your way out and then give up on it so fast. I don't know if it was smart for them to cut bait and run so quickly but at the same time I do feel as though WebOS is pretty fucking terrible. Its not even on par with early incarnations of Android, IMO, so I can see how its going to be such an uphill climb. But they seem keen on pushing through WebOS in some shape or form so I'm not sure what the deal is. Just seems to be a really bad strategy all around from upstairs regardig the handling of this sitaution from start to finish.

[MannyIsGod]

tbh, I took the 'class of it's own' to mean 'the new sub $200 tablet market' class type of thing. Manny can correct me if I misunderstood.

Yes, you did misunderstand but considering the entire situation was both of arguing two different things, whatever. Its just semantics in any event. The bottom line to my point was that people weren't comparing it against the iPad when deciding to purchase. You said you didn't dispute that so I figured even if you didn't acknowledge it being a class of its own you acknowledged the point.

[ElNono]

They should've just taken Android. Instead of paying people to develop WebOS, pay some people to port Android. It's fucking open source, all you have to develop are the drivers.

You just have to wonder what were they thinking.

[ElNono]

Yes, you did misunderstand but considering the entire situation was both of arguing two different things, whatever. Its just semantics in any event. The bottom line to my point was that people weren't comparing it against the iPad when deciding to purchase. You said you didn't dispute that so I figured even if you didn't acknowledge it being a class of its own you acknowledged the point.

Okay. The point I was making is that we're not going to see a $100 tablet market with that kind of hardware in the foreseeable future (maybe the next 3 years or so). The costs just don't add up.

[MannyIsGod]

Its probably hubris. Everyone wants to develop their own system like Apple because you get to make so much money from it and in the end thats where the REAL money is.

Amazon is the one who sounds like their doing things right. They have so much more pull beyond hardware than HTC/Samsung/Asus etc so they can afford to go the android route and still focus on making their money on the back end.

[ElNono]

Agreed. Apps is where the money is at.

That said, Amazon is getting a backlash from devs, and I think what they're doing is a disservice to Android. But that's another topic for another thread.

[Trainwreck2100]

They should've just taken Android. Instead of paying people to develop WebOS, pay some people to port Android. It's fucking open source, all you have to develop are the drivers.

You just have to wonder what were they thinking.

they didn't pay anyone to develop it they got it when they bought palm

[ElNono]

they didn't pay anyone to develop it they got it when they bought palm

thanks, I forgot about that.

[koriwhat]

HP is a horrible manufacturer and anyone who's in the business of technology knows this...

What is equally unsurprising is that Apple fanboys are trumpeting the iPad over the HP tablet like it's some great victory. Seriously? This is what you want the iPad to compare itself to? The cheapest tablet on the market? :lol

no one is denying the fact that HP sucks and has sucked forever...

plus, what "apple fanboys" are comparing the TP to the IPAD? i was simply stating that comparison was made by HP to begin with, you "microsoft fanboys" went and tried to flip it as if us ipad owners give a damn about comparing our tablet with that tablet.



When someone buys one at 100 its not because they think its better than the iPad...

i beg to differ... i believe you bought it hoping it could somewhat compete and at $100 it was a no-brainer to test the waters.



you think there is a meaningful portion of people who are buying the touchpad for a reason other than the price, en? I'd say of course not.

you're one of them.

[MannyIsGod]

you're trying to tell me why I bought it is different than why I'm telling you I bought it? Lol nice.

[koriwhat]

you're trying to tell me why I bought it is different than why I'm telling you I bought it? Lol nice.

you bought it because it was a cheap deal, i get it... that's why i shop at the $1 store every day and live in dumpsters.

[koriwhat]

plus, why get all happy here when you realized your purchase went through? i mean, it's only a $100 tablet...

[hater]

here we go. Apple losing companies in the appstore. So their downfall begins. :lol fuck them

Is Apple Being Too Greedy at the Apps Store as the FT Leaves It?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/08/31/is-apple-being-too-greedy-at-the-apps-store-as-the-ft-leaves-it/

The Financial Times (think of it as the UK equivalent of the Wall Street Journal) has decided not to sell the mobile subscription to the paper through Apple’s App Store. For the technically minded, here’s how it now works:

In a move to reduce its dependence on Apple and develop apps more quickly for rival tablet computers, the FT in June launched a Web-based version of its mobile app, the first of its kind by a major publisher.

This allows readers to sign up on an FT website and then sign on any device, including the iPad and iPhone through Apple’s Safari browser.

A shortcut can be installed on the device, giving an experience similar to using a native app custom-built for the smartphone or tablet being used.

The secret is in the use of the open HTML 5 standard that can be used by any browser.

Now those technical reasons do make some sense: instead of having to produce versions natively for the Apple OS, and Google’s Android, plus whatever other companies might put on phones or tablets (say Microsoft’s Windows Mobile) code and content can be write once and publish many on different platforms.

However, it is thought that the real deal is to do with this:

Apple has recently begun to insist that subscriptions to apps that it hosts must go through its own store, giving Apple ownership of valuable data about customers from those transactions, as well as a 30 percent cut of revenues.

Subscriptions to something like the FT are very sticky indeed. If you work in the European financial markets you have to read it, simply have to. The FT would undoubtedly prefer not only to manage such subscriptions themselves but also not to have that subscriber base known to another company. And 30% is a steep chunk of what is going to be a pretty stable revenue stream.

It might just be that the revenues from the App Store aren’t going to be as large as some currently think: the FT’s leaving it might be evidence that Apple is being too greedy, trying to get too large a cut of the action.

[Drachen]

They should've just taken Android. Instead of paying people to develop WebOS, pay some people to port Android. It's fucking open source, all you have to develop are the drivers.

You just have to wonder what were they thinking.

I have read that the physical tablet that is the Touchpad is actually the (previously announced, then retracted) android tablet that HP was going to produce before they bought palm... Then they just shoehorned WebOS onto it, which is why it doesn't have an advanced gestures area like the phones amongst other things. This is why it doesn't run as fast as it should on a 1.2 Ghz dual core / 1Gb ram tablet... They rushed it out without optimization (I mean they haven't even really taken advantage of that Adreno220 GPU as evidenced by the fact that all media playback is software based, not hardware accelerated.


With all that being said, as one of the top two or three android cheerleaders on this board (CryHavoc is the clear number 1 - LOL), I really like this operating system and am a little surprised that Manny has such disdain for it.

[leemajors]

here we go. Apple losing companies in the appstore. So their downfall begins. :lol fuck them

Is Apple Being Too Greedy at the Apps Store as the FT Leaves It?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/08/31/is-apple-being-too-greedy-at-the-apps-store-as-the-ft-leaves-it/

The Financial Times (think of it as the UK equivalent of the Wall Street Journal) has decided not to sell the mobile subscription to the paper through Apple’s App Store. For the technically minded, here’s how it now works:

In a move to reduce its dependence on Apple and develop apps more quickly for rival tablet computers, the FT in June launched a Web-based version of its mobile app, the first of its kind by a major publisher.

This allows readers to sign up on an FT website and then sign on any device, including the iPad and iPhone through Apple’s Safari browser.

A shortcut can be installed on the device, giving an experience similar to using a native app custom-built for the smartphone or tablet being used.

The secret is in the use of the open HTML 5 standard that can be used by any browser.

Now those technical reasons do make some sense: instead of having to produce versions natively for the Apple OS, and Google’s Android, plus whatever other companies might put on phones or tablets (say Microsoft’s Windows Mobile) code and content can be write once and publish many on different platforms.

However, it is thought that the real deal is to do with this:

Apple has recently begun to insist that subscriptions to apps that it hosts must go through its own store, giving Apple ownership of valuable data about customers from those transactions, as well as a 30 percent cut of revenues.

Subscriptions to something like the FT are very sticky indeed. If you work in the European financial markets you have to read it, simply have to. The FT would undoubtedly prefer not only to manage such subscriptions themselves but also not to have that subscriber base known to another company. And 30% is a steep chunk of what is going to be a pretty stable revenue stream.

It might just be that the revenues from the App Store aren’t going to be as large as some currently think: the FT’s leaving it might be evidence that Apple is being too greedy, trying to get too large a cut of the action.

You're a bit late on the change in subscription policy.

[lefty]

lol Hater in self-ownage mode

[PM5K]

financial times lol

lol people that try to sell information that everyone else gives away for free

[hater]

"The FT now has over 550,000 users of the web app, overtaking the number of users on all of its Apple apps combined, a spokeswoman for the publication said Wednesday."


:lmao

[Viva Las Espuelas]

lol hater

Still trying to right his wrong lol

[Slydragon]

Apple posing as cops now.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Updated-SF-Police-Now-Say-paidcontent-360255197.html?x=0&.v=1

[TDMVPDPOY]

financial times lol

lol people that try to sell information that everyone else gives away for free

thats what the murdoch clowns tried to do down here and most of the media outlets online wanted to charge ppl for access to news sites...

fck that shit just goto the govt funded news channel and read there crap...

[leemajors]

Apple posing as cops now.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Updated-SF-Police-Now-Say-paidcontent-360255197.html?x=0&.v=1

did you read it at all?

[Slydragon]

did you read it at all?

For the most part, they went and at first cops said no record of it and then later they said, oh yea we were there but didn't go in.

What I miss? I was just about done crapping so I read it pretty fast. Yes I look at spurstalk on the tolit, what better place for all the tolit humor that goes on here now

[hater]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Updated-SF-Police-Now-Say-paidcontent-360255197.html?x=0&.v=1

"However, SF Weekly, a San Francisco publication, confirmed Thursday that the San Francisco Police Department had no record of its officers or detectives participating in such a visit. It then tracked down one of the people who lived at the house, Sergio Calderon, who said that the people who came to his house said they were police officers.

A phone number left with Calderon by one of the investigators belonged to Anthony Colon, who told SF Weekly he was an Apple employee in a phone conversation but declined to comment further. A LinkedIn (NYSE:LNKD - News) profile for Colon identifying himself as a former San Jose police officer and current “senior investigator” at Apple has been deleted.

Apple employed private investigators in its search for an iPhone 4 that went missing last year, but was able to convince the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team (REACT), a partnership of federal and California authorities, to do the actual searches of people linked to the investigation. Posing as police officers (and reportedly using the residents’ immigration status as a threat) in order to find a lost product would be a much bolder (and stupider) way of trying to locate a lost product.

Apple has not commented on the report. A representative for the San Francisco Police Department said it would likely investigate the circumstances of the report after talking to Calderon.

The iPhone 5 is expected to be formally unveiled sometime over the next several weeks.

Updated 4:09 p.m. - The San Francisco Police Department has retracted its earlier claim that none of its officers were involved in the investigation, acknowledging that “three or four” plainclothes officers accompanied two Apple security investigators on the visit to Calderon’s home, according to a new story from SF Weekly. The officers did not enter Calderon’s house, however: the search was conducted by Apple employees, who did not identify themselves as police officers according to an updated statement from Calderon.

Apparently no report was ever filed, which raises all sorts of new questions about the police department’s cooperation with Apple’s investigation. This story is likely not over."


:lol cops were not even uniformed and probably off the clock. They tried to cover it up and now it blew up in their faces.

:lol Apple

[Viva Las Espuelas]

And you think google is proper with all that they do? :lol

[MannyIsGod]

And you think google is proper with all that they do? :lol

What does Google have to do with what Apple just did?

[resistanze]

LMApple.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

What does Google have to do with what Apple just did?

Re-read my post. If nothing goes off then nevermind. "all"

Disclaimer: I'm planning on getting an android as my next phone, so......

[MannyIsGod]

I don't know why you needed a disclaimer I just don't see what your point was bringing Google into the equation. Do I think Google is clean with everything they do? The lawsuits over the IP logging obviously point to no but whats the point?

[hater]

next time Google pushes an OS upgrade that will render my device useless, and then ignores my issue. I will surely agree. Until then, Apple sucks.

[lefty]

lol tired old shit dirt bag Steve Jobs shitting on Hater

[leemajors]

http://lifehacker.com/5838773/adobe-brings-flash-support-to-ipads-and-iphones

interesting, wonder if it will be adopted. i still don't really miss flash at all on my phone.

[lefty]

http://lifehacker.com/5838773/adobe-brings-flash-support-to-ipads-and-iphones

interesting, wonder if it will be adopted. i still don't really miss flash at all on my phone.
Interesting

Developers are using HTML 5 more and more though, so it will interesting to see how it plays out

[hater]

LOL Apple running a cripple version of Flash

[lefty]

LOL Apple running a cripple version of Flash
" Good good "

[resistanze]

What's the rationale for omitting flash from iPhones and iPads (curious)?

[lefty]

What's the rationale for omitting flash from iPhones and iPads (curious)?
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

[leemajors]

LOL Apple running a cripple version of Flash

Adobe released this server side fix for flash, genius.

[Dex]

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

All of that stuff....plus the fact that if Flash worked, people would just design and play all their games, videos, and widgets on their iPhones / iPads using Flash instead of shelling out money on the App Store for apps to do it, thus Apple can't get its cut.

[Cane]

Yea Flash seemed like it was too good to be true for Apple products. Crazy that Steve Jobs wrote up that essay; I'm not a fan of Apple but damn was that dude passionate or some shit.

Apples to me are like luxury cars; you pay extra for the brand, design, quality, and refinement but you're going to get some shit for owning one and its going to cost ya some decent cash too. Kind of like how people shit on Beamer owners especially the entry level folk.

[Dex]

Apples to me are like luxury cars; you pay extra for the brand, design, quality, and refinement but you're going to get some shit for owning one and its going to cost ya some decent cash too. Kind of like how people shit on Beamer owners especially the entry level folk.

I work for Apple and drive a Bimmer. :greedy What's the problem? :lol

[Cane]

I work for Apple and drive a Bimmer. :greedy What's the problem? :lol

:hat Personally nothing tbh especially if you got that going for ya. But haters gonna hate :downspin:

[Dex]

:hat Personally nothing tbh especially if you got that going for ya. But haters gonna hate :downspin:

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/h/hey_arnold_haters_gonna_hate-14276.jpg

[hater]

:lmao comparing Apple owners to Bimmer owners.

I'm a bimmer owner and I won't say my bimmer is superior to other cars. Also if anything Bimmer owners are like Android owners cause they like their product rough around the edges and like to have control and not be driven.

if anything Apple owners are like Benz/Lexus owners

[Heath Ledger]

All of that stuff....plus the fact that if Flash worked, people would just design and play all their games, videos, and widgets on their iPhones / iPads using Flash instead of shelling out money on the App Store for apps to do it, thus Apple can't get its cut.


you can view flash vids on ipad theres a few browsers. skyfire puffer and some other one i cant remember.

[ElNono]

I'm a bimmer owner and I won't say my bimmer is superior to other cars.

But you know it is.


if anything Apple owners are like Benz/Lexus owners

<gulp> Guilty as charged :lol

[resistanze]

I'm a VW owner does that make me like a HTC?

[Cane]

:lmao comparing Apple owners to Bimmer owners.

I'm a bimmer owner and I won't say my bimmer is superior to other cars. Also if anything Bimmer owners are like Android owners cause they like their product rough around the edges and like to have control and not be driven.

if anything Apple owners are like Benz/Lexus owners

Nah in the mind of haters Bimmers fit fine especially if you aren't driving a M-series stickshift. Both Apple and luxury cars (especially entry level) are regularly shit on by haters as being overpriced products owned by badge-driven consumer whores that have little to no knowledge of the stuff whether its cars or computers.

[lefty]

Report: Apple to hold media event on October 4th, Tim Cook to unveil iPhone 5
By Amar Toor posted Sep 21st 2011 6:31AM



We have yet to receive official word on this, but All Things Digital is reporting today that Apple's next big media event will be held on October 4th, where freshly minted CEO Tim Cook is expected to unveil the iPhone 5. Sources close to the situation say Cook will be the main presenter at the event, with execs Phil Schiller, Scott Forstall and Eddy Cue playing supporting roles. This would mark the first time that Cook has actually led an Apple event, adding an extra wrinkle of significance to an already highly anticipated occasion. The site's sources went on to say that the next-gen iPhone will be available for purchase "within a few weeks" of the announcement, though All Things Digital acknowledges that the exact date of its unveiling is still subject to change. As always, we'll be sure to keep you posted as soon as we hear more.

[resistanze]

Good news from both Apple and Samsung. Bout fuckin' time!

[hater]

Multiple supply chain vendors indicate a 25% cut for 4Q11 iPad sell-in orders (first cut ever that we have seen) in the past two weeks, which would mean that Hon Hai’s iPad shipments may be down 25% quarter-over-quarter in the fourth quarter of 2011 (from sell-in of 17 million in 3Q11 to 13 million in 4Q11).

Our understanding is that this is not in preparation for a new model launch (which may have to wait until March-12).

Note that JPMorgan US analyst, Mark Moskowitz, who covers Apple, is expecting only 10.9 million and 12 million units of iPad shipments in calendar year 3Q and 4Q11 and does not expect the supply chain adjustments to result in downside to his estimates.

Apple was one of the biggest drags on the Nasdaq, falling
2.1 percent to $395.73 after an analyst said the iPhone maker
was cutting orders from suppliers of parts for its iPad tablet.



:lol :lol

[hater]

Apple May Lose To Android In Device-Based Media Management

For Apple iPhone and iPad owners with an Apple TV, the AirPlay function is one of those you-have-to-see-this gadget showcases. A tap of an icon on a device sends the current video, audio or slide show playing on the AirPlay-ready compatible IOS app to your big-screen TV or home theater. Cool -- if you have the requisite Apple-certified hardware. Android owners don't get such an easy path to media-sharing goodness.

But an open DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) standard is emerging among all the other hardware makers that might give Android the upper hand here. In a new report from IMS Research, the mobile analysts see device-based media management as the next big living-room thing -- and it may leave Apple behind.

The DLNA says it certified over 1,000 TV models in Q1 2011 that support the standard, which like AirPlay, lets the user of a mobile or laptop device send their media to the TV. Most of the major manufacturers producing connected TVs with the built-in WiFi-enabling technology are in the coalition -- from Samsung to Sony, LG to Sharp.

The standard is open, so any Android hardware manufacturer can embed a DNLA media server in its hardware to be compatible. This is the perfect way to get a leg up on Apple. IMS Research says that Apple is unlikely to embrace an open standard like DLNA. Apple's insistence on sticking with its own proprietary AirPlay system could cede much of the emerging media-sharing market to Android.

And that could prove to be a large market.

IMS suggests that the increased inclusion of DLNA support on smartphones will help drive awareness of the function. "We also expect to see a new culture of video portability emerge from that awareness," says senior analyst Stephen Froelich. For those markets that adopt the standard across devices, "the smartphone essentially becomes a personal ID key that unlocks a consumer's access to his or her own cont

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Yawn. My tv and ps3 both have DLNA and it works beautifully in concert with my free Mediashare app. I can stream music, pics and movies with no additional hardware.


Hater still looking like an idiot.

[Tinystarz]

fanboys out in full force here :lol

[hater]

:lol emotional fanboy resorting to insults

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Cuz your post was dishonest, idiot

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Thinking iOS3 is the same as iOS4 lol

[leemajors]

Multiple supply chain vendors indicate a 25% cut for 4Q11 iPad sell-in orders (first cut ever that we have seen) in the past two weeks, which would mean that Hon Hai’s iPad shipments may be down 25% quarter-over-quarter in the fourth quarter of 2011 (from sell-in of 17 million in 3Q11 to 13 million in 4Q11).

Our understanding is that this is not in preparation for a new model launch (which may have to wait until March-12).

Note that JPMorgan US analyst, Mark Moskowitz, who covers Apple, is expecting only 10.9 million and 12 million units of iPad shipments in calendar year 3Q and 4Q11 and does not expect the supply chain adjustments to result in downside to his estimates.

Apple was one of the biggest drags on the Nasdaq, falling
2.1 percent to $395.73 after an analyst said the iPhone maker
was cutting orders from suppliers of parts for its iPad tablet.



:lol :lol

Not sure where you got this (but definitely understand why you didn't source it), but 3Q numbers were announced a while back (July).

[lefty]

Thinking iOS3 is the same as iOS4 lol
:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

Yawn. My tv and ps3 both have DLNA and it works beautifully in concert with my free Mediashare app. I can stream music, pics and movies with no additional hardware.


Hater still looking like an idiot.

Why is he looking like an idiot due to that post? I considered DNLA important when I just purchased my WD TV Live Plus and its one reason I never even considered Apple TV.

[MannyIsGod]

Cuz your post was dishonest, idiot

Wait, how was he dishonest? :lol

Can't wait to see these answers.

[leemajors]

there is a lot of money in selling apple accessories, i don't see airplay devices having a hard time making it to market. bridgeco already has their chips (which have been airplay compatible) in a lot of stuff like receivers.

[MannyIsGod]

I think airplay is cool, but I would much rather have something like DNLA that is compatible across so many different pieces of hardware as opposed to something that means I have to have more Apple devices.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Why is he looking like an idiot due to that post? I considered DNLA important when I just purchased my WD TV Live Plus and its one reason I never even considered Apple TV.

Read my reply to him. It's all there in English.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Wait, how was he dishonest? :lol

Can't wait to see these answers.

Cuz you don't need DLNA to stream from an apple product to your tv. Again, read my reply to him. It's all there in English. smh

[ElNono]

Not sure where you got this (but definitely understand why you didn't source it), but 3Q numbers were announced a while back (July).

Actually, Apple didn't downgrade his forecast for units sold. Rumor is that the lowering of parts order stems from Apple moving some of the iPad production to Brazil, and starting to lower inventory for the introduction of the next iPad.

[Frenzy]

720p glory...

[hater]

Cuz you don't need DLNA to stream from an apple product to your tv. Again, read my reply to him. It's all there in English. smh

where did I claim the opposite fanboy?

[hater]

Actually, Apple didn't downgrade his forecast for units sold. Rumor is that the lowering of parts order stems from Apple moving some of the iPad production to Brazil, and starting to lower inventory for the introduction of the next iPad.

Our understanding is that this is not in preparation for a new model launch (which may have to wait until March-12).

[ElNono]

Our understanding is that this is not in preparation for a new model launch (which may have to wait until March-12).

Like I said, rumor. Nobody knows what's Apple doing, not even the people that wrote what you posted.

[ElNono]

With Amazon launching their color Kindle next week, accelerating the introduction of a newer model isn't out of the question, tbh

[hater]

Like I said, rumor. Nobody knows what's Apple doing, not even the people that wrote what you posted.

the same can be said about every single company who's stocks are traded daily on "rumors"

[leemajors]

720p glory...

1080p rips will chew your hard drive space fast.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

where did I claim the opposite fanboy?

Ok. Well, (inhale) from a guy that's used apple products about 2 yearstotal in the 15 or so years I've used computers; and one that's publicly posted here a few times I want an android as my next phone(exhale) all that article stated was you need an apple product to stream files to your tv. That's the only that was stated. The article, that is. You stated nothing. You just copy-pasted it.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

With Amazon launching their color Kindle next week, accelerating the introduction of a newer model isn't out of the question, tbh

Isn't the kindle a simple e-reader? Unless it's been bulked up, I don't see how a simple e-reader would scare apple to hurry up an iPad.

[hater]

no it didn't. It said DNLA is open and will be adopted by most manufacturers, and could possibly become the standard.

take your Apple homer glasses off and read again.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Anywhere in the article, did it state DLNA was necessary in streaming files from an iPhone/iPad?
Did you know before I stated that I didn't need DLNA to stream files from my iPhone that you could stream files without DLNA?

[leemajors]

no it didn't. It said DNLA is open and will be adopted by most manufacturers, and could possibly become the standard.

take your Apple homer glasses off and read again.

DNLA has been around for a while. I imagine writing software for it could be hard to work with with so many different companies and devices.

[hater]

Anywhere in the article, did it state DLNA was necessary in streaming files from an iPhone/iPad?
Did you know before I stated that I didn't need DLNA to stream files from my iPhone that you could stream files without DLNA?

:lmao Viva

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Good answer :tu

[ElNono]

the same can be said about every single company who's stocks are traded daily on "rumors"

Apple is specially very secretive about what they do.

[MannyIsGod]

Read my reply to him. It's all there in English.


Cuz you don't need DLNA to stream from an apple product to your tv. Again, read my reply to him. It's all there in English. smh

So in English, can you tell me where he said you needed an DLNA to stream to a TV?

Considering - in English - he said that Apple didn't have DNLA I wonder how you could even get that.

[ElNono]

You can get DNLA players/streamers for iOS too. Not sure what's the problem.

[ElNono]

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/media-connect-for-dlna-upnp/id335036887?mt=8

Free

[MannyIsGod]

Anywhere in the article, did it state DLNA was necessary in streaming files from an iPhone/iPad?
Did you know before I stated that I didn't need DLNA to stream files from my iPhone that you could stream files without DLNA?

Dude, for someone who has multiple times in the past few days talked to people about reading something better you sure do suck at reading.

Considering the first paragraph states that streaming from those devices is done WITHOUT DNLA I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. I'm not sure anyone else is either.

[hater]

You can get DNLA players/streamers for iOS too. Not sure what's the problem.



IMS Research says that Apple is unlikely to embrace an open standard like DLNA. Apple's insistence on sticking with its own proprietary AirPlay system could cede much of the emerging media-sharing market to Android.

what percentage of iphone owners will go through the trouble of downloading/configuring 3rd party apps to stream video?

[ElNono]

Isn't the kindle a simple e-reader? Unless it's been bulked up, I don't see how a simple e-reader would scare apple to hurry up an iPad.

Supposed to be a bulked up version, 7" screen and much cheaper. It won't scare Apple unless it sells well during the holiday season. If it does, it wouldn't be unexpected for Apple to have to react to it. Plus the iPad cycle has been about 2 years, so while there's no apparent hurry right now, it's due for an update sometime next year or so.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I'm glad you posted that in English, El Nono :toast

[MannyIsGod]

I'm glad you posted that in English, El Nono :toast

Cool maybe next El Nono can post an app that reads things for you so that you don't make these errors over and over again, IMO.

[ElNono]

IMS Research says that Apple is unlikely to embrace an open standard like DLNA. Apple's insistence on sticking with its own proprietary AirPlay system could cede much of the emerging media-sharing market to Android.

what percentage of iphone owners will go through the trouble of downloading/configuring 3rd party apps to stream video?

The point of DNLA is that you don't have to configure much of anything.
That Apple won't adopt it in the OS doesn't mean it isn't available.

:lol @ the "trouble" of downloading a free app

[ElNono]

I'm glad you posted that in English, El Nono :toast


Cool maybe next El Nono can post an app that reads things for you so that you don't make these errors over and over again, IMO.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/american-heritage-dictionary/id284965601?mt=8

:lol

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Dude, for someone who has multiple times in the past few days talked to people about reading something better you sure do suck at reading.

Considering the first paragraph states that streaming from those devices is done WITHOUT DNLA I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. I'm not sure anyone else is either.

Right. It says you need AirPlay to stream, right???

Plus there's only two idi, I mean, people that are having problems with what I said...

[hater]

The point is apple is not supporting it. most iphone owners won't even know this is possible much less try it. that is a fact. The article has a point, you might not agree, but it is not "dishonest" :lol

[ElNono]

I actually opted for the WD Live Plus over the Apple TV too, but because the Apple TV only does 720p, which is asinine.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

The point of DNLA is that you don't have to configure much of anything.
That Apple won't adopt it in the OS doesn't mean it isn't available.

Bingo

[Viva Las Espuelas]

The point is apple is not supporting it. most iphone owners won't even know this is possible much less try it. that is a fact. The article has a point, you might not agree, but it is not "dishonest" :lol

Does it state streaming is possible by any other way?

[ElNono]

The point is apple is not supporting it. most iphone owners won't even know this is possible. The article has a point, you might not agree, but it is not "dishonest" :lol

People has been streaming stuff off Samba shares for ages, even before DNLA existed. Becoming a "standard" won't really change that.

Apple won't adopt it because they feel that have a better solution. Even then, there's nothing stopping Apple from supporting it in the future if customers demand it. DNLA (uPNP) and Airplay (Bonjour) are fairly similar tech.

[MannyIsGod]

Right. It says you need AirPlay to stream, right???

Plus there's only two idi, I mean, people that are having problems with what I said...

Do you even realize what you post?

No seriously, go back and read what you posted.

SMH

And no, it doesn't say that you have to have airplay to stream with apple products. It says that to steam to Apple TV you need to use airplay. Does Apple TV have an app store? Does it support DNLA?

Pretty sure the article was in English.

Need help figuring shit out? I'm sure there's an app for that, Viva.

[MannyIsGod]

I actually opted for the WD Live Plus over the Apple TV too, but because the Apple TV only does 720p, which is asinine.

The thread on here helped me decide. For the most part very happy with that little box.

[MannyIsGod]

I know its hard Viva, but focus on the very first sentence.


For Apple iPhone and iPad owners with an Apple TV

You really should be banned from every telling anyone anything about English or reading. Ever.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Wait, how was he dishonest? :lol

Can't wait to see these answers.


Cuz your post was dishonest, idiot

hmmmm. and I can't read. I'll let your studying abroad tackle that. just meditate on it.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

So in English, can you tell me where he said you needed an DLNA to stream to a TV?

all that article stated was you need an apple product to stream files to your tv. That's the only that was stated. The article, that is. You stated nothing. You just copy-pasted it.Do you need help translating that?


Considering - in English - he said that Apple didn't have DNLA I wonder how you could even get that.

You can get DNLA players/streamers for iOS too. Not sure what's the problem.
Again, hater copy-pasted.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

The point is apple is not supporting it. cool. one could call it progression.


most iphone owners won't even know this is possible much less try it. does it mean that it's impossible to stream without the Almighty Apple TV and/or DLNA?

that is a fact. mostly, but does it mean that it's impossible to stream with the Almighty Apple TV and/or DLNA?


The article has a point, you might not agree, but it is not "dishonest" :lolit makes A point but it's not giving a person all the info about streaming from an iPhone or iPad.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Apple May Lose To Android In Device-Based Media Management

For Apple iPhone and iPad owners with an Apple TV, the AirPlay function is one of those you-have-to-see-this gadget showcases. A tap of an icon on a device sends the current video, audio or slide show playing on the AirPlay-ready compatible IOS app to your big-screen TV or home theater. Cool -- if you have the requisite Apple-certified hardware.Yes. Cool, but not required to stream. Does this lead a clueless reader to believe that you need an Apple TV to stream? If you required it to stream and read up to this point, would you start thinking about another phone? More than likely, yes. And that'll answer both questions.

Android owners don't get such an easy path to media-sharing goodness.this is horseshit, too, because the G2x has DLNA capabilities, so immediately I knew this whole article wasn't going to be all that factual or completely honest. "dishonest"

In a new report from IMS Research, the mobile analysts see device-based media management as the next big living-room thing -- and it may leave Apple behind. Nonsense, me and ElNono have both said streaming is possible with an iPhone and iPad now. Is the article stating this? No, but "it may leave Apple behind" Well, yeah from an AppleTV owner standpoint, but the article is dishonest about that statement as a whole.

The DLNA says it certified over 1,000 TV models in Q1 2011 that support the standard, which like AirPlay, lets the user of a mobile or laptop device send their media to the TV. Most of the major manufacturers producing connected TVs with the built-in WiFi-enabling technology are in the coalition -- from Samsung to Sony, LG to SharpSurely most AppleTV owners owns a TV that's DLNA compliant......................................... ..............which is all you would need to stream from an iPhone and/or iPad.

The standard is open, so any Android hardware manufacturer can embed a DNLA media server in its hardware to be compatible. This is the perfect way to get a leg up on Apple. Leg up?? Does what I've been saying need repeating? I could go on but why.

So, yes, Manny I can read. Maybe you should've answered my question so I could've clued you in to what I meant before you spoke on my behalf--which only made you look like an even bigger douche than what you are. I'm sure all that studying abroad makes you feel that you're omniscient but I call bullshit...

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Do you even realize what you post?
:lol you ask me know



No seriously, go back and read what you posted.

No need. I know what I posted..



And no, it doesn't say that you have to have airplay to stream with apple products. It says that to steam to Apple TV you need to use airplayNo it doesn't but it says Android will have a "leg up". I don't see that as a factual statement. Of course, you or anyone who doesn't know better wouldn't know because it's never mentioned.




Pretty sure the article was in English.

Need help figuring shit out? I'm sure there's an app for that, Viva.
No need and what a "clever" meme.......

[ElNono]

Now now... it's ok

Let's go back to Apple sucks :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Do you need help translating that?



Again, hater copy-pasted.


cool. one could call it progression.

does it mean that it's impossible to stream without the Almighty Apple TV and/or DLNA?
mostly, but does it mean that it's impossible to stream with the Almighty Apple TV and/or DLNA?

it makes A point but it's not giving a person all the info about streaming from an iPhone or iPad.


Yes. Cool, but not required to stream. Does this lead a clueless reader to believe that you need an Apple TV to stream? If you required it to stream and read up to this point, would you start thinking about another phone? More than likely, yes. And that'll answer both questions.
this is horseshit, too, because the G2x has DLNA capabilities, so immediately I knew this whole article wasn't going to be all that factual or completely honest. "dishonest"
Nonsense, me and ElNono have both said streaming is possible with an iPhone and iPad now. Is the article stating this? No, but "it may leave Apple behind" Well, yeah from an AppleTV owner standpoint, but the article is dishonest about that statement as a whole.
Surely most AppleTV owners owns a TV that's DLNA compliant......................................... ..............which is all you would need to stream from an iPhone and/or iPad.
Leg up?? Does what I've been saying need repeating? I could go on but why.

So, yes, Manny I can read. Maybe you should've answered my question so I could've clued you in to what I meant before you spoke on my behalf--which only made you look like an even bigger douche than what you are. I'm sure all that studying abroad makes you feel that you're omniscient but I call bullshit...


:lol you ask me know


No need. I know what I posted..

No it doesn't but it says Android will have a "leg up". I don't see that as a factual statement. Of course, you or anyone who doesn't know better wouldn't know because it's never mentioned.


No need and what a "clever" meme.......


In other words, no one or no post or no article was saying what you wanted it to and you read it incorrectly. :tu

:lol You have such a hard time admiting you just fucked up and misread it that now you've gone as far as to try to distinguish hater's post from hater. Thats fucking rich. Hater's post must be self aware and have written itself.

BTW, New Mexico is in the US. :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Frenzy]

You have such a hard time admiting you just fucked up


I think that runs rampant here with everyone :lol

[Drachen]

I think that runs rampant here with everyone :lol

Yep, everyone but is guilty. Lol

[Viva Las Espuelas]

In other words, no one or no post or no article was saying what you wanted it to and you read it incorrectly. :tu

:lol You have such a hard time admiting you just fucked up and misread it that now you've gone as far as to try to distinguish hater's post from hater. Thats fucking rich. Hater's post must be self aware and have written itself.

BTW, New Mexico is in the US. :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Whatever makes you feel accomplished, Manny. Thanks for the non answer to any of the questions. Of course, we wouldn't want to expose your fuckup. And it's called sarcasm, Nostradamus.

[MannyIsGod]

What fuck up is there to expose? Your posts and inability to read are already exposed. If you think I fucked up because you're unable to read then go right ahead. Its not like I've gone back and edited anything.

And yeah, :lol @ the its sarcasm. "drrrrr I was just kidding I can read". Nothing like people who go to the "I was trolling" defense when its pointed out how stupid the shit they say is. I would actually have given anyone else the benefit of the doubt but not everyone is capable of doing shit as dumb as putting RAM into a motherboard backwards and many of the other stupid shit that you've done.

So yeah, there's no need to expose anything, Viva, as your long line of really fucking stupid things is pretty damn long on here.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh, and I found it especially funny that you called ME the douche when you came in and started insulting Hater simply because you don't have the brain cells to comprehend the words you're staring at.

Yes, nothing says douche less than insulting others because of your own stupidity and then not even acknowledging it!


(thats how sarcasm is done, btw)

[MannyIsGod]

:( :( :( :( Manny is so mean to me

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Nice answers. Still.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

And who said I was trolling? You were the one making assumptions. Like you're one to leave wrong assumptions about you alone. But like I said, whatever makes you feel accomplished.

[Drachen]

You know what they say about those who assume ..... (yuk yuk yuk)

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Don't do it drachen. Manny will be mean to you. :lol
Assuming I'm being bullied by some douche on the interwebz :lol
Thinking you're important :lol

[Drachen]

I have a 1 day old boy sleeping on my lap right now, I could really not care less about anyone being mean.

[MannyIsGod]

Don't do it drachen. Manny will be mean to you. :lol
Assuming I'm being bullied by some douche on the interwebz :lol
Thinking you're important :lol

I'm so in your head its not even funny. You comment on me in threads where I don't even address you. Being in your head is obviously not a sign of importance but it is entertaining. Its not like there's much in there as it is, so I'm happy to take my spot.

Odds on Viva crying more than Drachen's new born are fairly high, IMO, TBH.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm mean to Drachen all the time. He doesn't cry, he just gives me Sprint/Android/WD Plus TV advice. :lol

[MannyIsGod]

BTW I never said I was important.

WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING NOSTRAVIVA?!?!?!?!!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Looking high
Looking low

Yep. Still no answer.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I like how you multpost your "attacks" after the fact. I bet you sit in front of a mirror and repeat "I am all knowing. I know everything". :lol. As Brad Pitt said "You're a fucking T-shirt".

[Cry Havoc]

I'm so in your head its not even funny. You comment on me in threads where I don't even address you. Being in your head is obviously not a sign of importance but it is entertaining. Its not like there's much in there as it is, so I'm happy to take my spot.

Surprisingly analogous to me and koriwhat. Although Viva also used to go after me in threads that I hadn't even clicked on (let alone read) as well. It's kind of their MO for showing off how not-bothered they are by your posts. :lol

[leemajors]

careful, monkey manny schtick may reappear

[ElNono]

Why can't we all just switch iBuds and get along? :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Dude I don't want your ear junk in my ears, TBH.

[ElNono]

:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

I'm sorry that emoticon is not in English.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

careful, monkey manny schtick may reappear

It's called being mean..

[Tinystarz]

guys guys guys....



http://youtu.be/Ym0hZG-zNOk#t=03m47s

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I'm not sure I understand the drama, but techie soap operas are just fun to watch play out.

[ElNono]

Can't wait for the season finale, tbh :corn:

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Looking high
Looking low

Yep. Still no answer.

[hater]

back on topic:

Al Gore is now hyping the iphone 5 and revealed he is a member of Apple board of directors :lmao

this is the same guy that said he invented the internets

:rollin apple

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_qNrzVSb6VQ/TgafcbcJvnI/AAAAAAAACUU/eg5ifn8z_hs/s1600/blog_al_gore_loser.jpg

[lefty]

Haters are gonna hate


Apple still rules


Deal with it :lmao

[hater]

The iPhone 5 Will Suck
http://www.tech-me.me/2011/07/iphone-5-will-suck.html

Okay, so maybe the title is a bit over-stretched, but my point still stands. Smartphones these days are getting better, and better, and better, and Apple somehow manages to lag behind, every time. Yet, as slow as they are, they still manage to make old hardware 'new' again. In this day and age, plenty of smartphones like the Samsung Galaxy S2, the Motorola Atrix, and the HTC EVO 3D are just some of the already dual-core offerings.

But you know what? It's likely Apple will market their new dual-core iPhone 5 as revolutionary. Why? Because that's how they make business. They play catch-up, but they get their marketing right. But what about other features of the proclaimed deity of smartphones? :lol

Apple is likely to introduce an 8 mega-pixel camera with its new iPhone 5. For most of the people using iPhone 4's, that's pretty new. For people using Android phones, 8MP is almost expired, and we'll probably start seeing 10-12MP smartphone cameras some time soon.

Android 1 - Apple 0.

They're also likely to introduce 4G connectivity. Problem is, are people even adopting that yet? Heck, it's barely even been rolled out. Besides, some Android phones already have it. Sorry Apple, you're late again.

Android 2 - Apple 0.

Apple will also introduce wireless syncing. They described it as 'cutting the cord', and that it would be a revolutionary change to how smartphones work. Funnily enough, that's also already been done before.

Android 3 - Apple 0.

They'll bring more RAM to the iPhone 5, up to 1GB. Most smartphones these days feature 1GB of RAM. In fact, you'd be silly to think that anything less than that is standard these days. I bet Apple will market as revolutionary.

Android 4 - Apple 0.

Apple has no choice but to have a larger screen with their new iPhone 5. What size will it be, though? 4"? Sorry, Apple, you're already beat on that front. In fact, most new phones have AMOLED screens... so uh, better pick up the pace on that one.

Android 5 - Apple 0.

And yet the amazing thing is that millions of people will believe that all of Apple's new features will be new and revolutionary. They'll think that their dogmatic God company has brought out the latest and greatest in new smartphone technology, but they're really just trying to keep up with their competitors. :downspin:

Worse yet, is that Apple will then go after their competitors claiming that they came up with their ideas first.

I have an iPhone. Why? Because I didn't see what all the fuss about smartphones was until I saw one.

Funny thing is, I bought an Apple iPhone because they were the coolest thing. I got one because I thought it would make me one of the 'in' crowd, I thought that it was the most versatile and flexible smartphone on the planet.
Oh, how wrong I was.

[hater]

LOL apple playing catchup

[lefty]

lol at the source


You can better than that, hater :lol

[hater]

yet you keep responding :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Why does Viva need to look high or low? I just look straight ahead at the monitor, TBH.

As to why you can't read, Viva, you may never find an answer but I suspect it has something to do with your lack of intelligence.


PS

I'm important enough to still be in your head and still have you wanting an answer. :king:king:king:king:king:king

[Viva Las Espuelas]

It's amazing how you know what I think, Manny. Amazing. Of course I look stupid cuz you assumed what I meant. Any how, whatever makes you feel accomplished. Kinda funny that you're "in my head" and my RAM debacle happened more than a year ago. Yes I know that's hard to comprehend. Again, a t-shirt.....

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Also, I guess another factor of my dishonest claim is because all hater post is anti-apple. But of course all of your studying abroad led you to already know that. Silly me.

[MannyIsGod]

Dude I'll probably never forget the RAM thing because that is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard of some one doing when putting together a computer.

And yes, it is amazing how I know exactly what you're thinking. I'm amazing like that. You should bask in the my absolute glory. Go ahead, bask.

Man, totally feel accomplished now!

What kind of a tshirt am I? Vneck? Crew? Long Sleeve? Logo?

[MannyIsGod]

Also, I guess another factor of my dishonest claim is because all hater post is anti-apple. But of course all of your studying abroad led you to already know that. Silly me.

I get that Hater hurts your feelings but that doesn't make him dishonest. There was an dictionary app linked above. You might find it useful. If only (a year ago) there had been a RAM installation instruction app. If only!

[MannyIsGod]

Besides, you were talking about his skynet-like post, not hater. Did that post - the one you were talking about - always post anti Apple stuff?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Ah well. Gotta look good somehow, Manny. I know I'd be a douche if I looked like I walked out of an evolution chart. I feel your pain.

[MannyIsGod]

Aren't humans on the evolution chart too? What do you look like?

[MannyIsGod]

careful, monkey manny schtick may reappear


:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[lefty]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2011/09/samsung-copying-cjr.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

Ah well. Gotta look good somehow, Manny. I know I'd be a douche if I looked like I walked out of an evolution chart. I feel your pain.

The funny thing is thinking you're NOT a douche, TBH. I can own up to being an asshole and be OK with it but you're still under the assumption that because you're the bigger idiot out of the two of us that somehow means you're not a douche.

Viva, just because I'm smarter than you doesn't mean that I'm the only douche here.

:toast

[ElNono]

back on topic:

Al Gore is now hyping the iphone 5 and revealed he is a member of Apple board of directors :lmao


:lol revealed? He's been a board member since 2003 IIRC.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

The funny thing is thinking you're NOT a douche, TBH. I can own up to being an asshole and be OK with it but you're still under the assumption that because you're the bigger idiot out of the two of us that somehow means you're not a douche.

Viva, just because I'm smarter than you doesn't mean that I'm the only douche here.

:toast

Answer the question and only one douche will be standing. Upright. Ooga booga.
But of course, I know that's too much to "own" up to.

And I think I'm quite handsome. I get carded regularly so I must look young even though I've walked on this rock for quite some time.

[hater]

Also, I guess another factor of my dishonest claim is because all hater post is anti-apple. But of course all of your studying abroad led you to already know that. Silly me.

just because something is anti-something does not mean it's dishonest.

I deal with facts. Apple = sucks

:rollin

[hater]

"but, but their USB adaptor looks like ours" :cry :cry


LOL crybaby Apple

[lefty]

"but, but their USB adaptor looks like ours" :cry :cry


LOL crybaby Apple
lol zero originality
lol having to copy Apple

lol pathetic :rollin

[hater]

here's the pathetic samsung phone vs. icrap 4:

t78KfESnFE0

:lol slow ass iShit

[resistanze]

Everyone should be required to watch the video above just for that music.

[ElNono]

:lol comparing a 16 month old phone vs a 5 month old phone
:lol 0.5 second difference = slow ass
:lol not dishonest

Haters gonna hate, tbh

[hater]

:lol Galaxy s2 has been out 9+ months
:lol latest model vs. latest model = fair comparison.
:lol Apple is gonna play catchup from now on.

Deal with it. :lol

[ElNono]

:lol Galaxy s2 has been out 9+ months


The Galaxy S II was given worldwide release dates starting from May 2011, by more than 140 vendors in some 120 countries.

:lol don't know how to count
:lol May -> Oct = 9+ months
:lol not dishonest

hater hatin' :lol

[ElNono]

In North America, Canada has been first to receive this device, from launch, at the end of July 2011 on Bell Mobility.

:lol 9+ months
:lol calling it like he dishonestly sees it
:lol catching up to 1/2 a second

:lol

[lefty]

In North America, Canada has been first to receive this device, from launch, at the end of July 2011 on Bell Mobility.

:lol 9+ months
:lol calling it like he dishonestly sees it
:lol catching up to 1/2 a second

:lol
:lol

[hater]

mmm It was released in Jan/Feb in Korea.

[lefty]

:lol Hater
:lol Hated

[hater]

let's concede it was released 6 months ago.

still,
:lol latest model vs. latest model = fair comparison
:lol apple playing catchup from now on

deal with it. :lol

[hater]

:lol With iOS 5, Apple Mostly Plays Catch-Up
http://www.pcworld.com/article/229525/with_ios_5_apple_mostly_plays_catchup.html

Few of the new features in Apple’s upcoming mobile OS upgrade are revolutionary and many are similar to components of Android.
By Melissa J. Perenson, PCWorld Jun 6, 2011 7:30 pm

When it's released this fall, iOS 5 will be a major update to Apple's mobile operating system. But it won't be very revolutionary. Rather than introduce innovations, Apple will mostly fill in iOS's holes by borrowing features already found on other mobile operating systems, or correcting longtime annoyances. :lmao

Are Apple's updates enough to maintain the company's competitiveness against Google's Android, on phone and on tablet? Yes, but just barely.

A fall iOS 5 release syncs with the expectation that Apple will announce iPhone 5 in the fall (that's somewhat late; typically, Apple unveils a new iPhone at WWDC). This fall will also be one year after Apple released a major OS update for the iPad.

iOS 5: The Big Changes
The one seismic change to the new version of iOS announced at today's keynote: Finally, your iPhone or iPad won't have to be connected to a computer in order to get started, or get OS updates. Currently, to activate an iOS device, the first thing you need to do is hook it up via a cable to a PC. Apple was ridiculed for that fact after the introduction of the iPad 2 because Steve Jobs had emphasized that the iPad was designed for a post-PC world. Now, with iOS 5, you'll get a simple Welcome screen when you start up; and you can sync your data-including contacts, calendar, apps, and music-directly from iCloud, the Web-based data syncing service Apple also announced Monday.

Apple will deliver OS updates over the air. Does that sound like it'll take forever? Apple will only send the parts of the OS that have changed, instead of reinstalling the full OS. You'll also be able to originate some actions directly from an iOS device; for example, you'll be able to create or delete calendars.

Over-the-air updates is a huge change, but it wasn't first in Apple senior vice president Scott Forstall's presentation. First up was a change Forstall said was heavily requested: Updating notifications. Indeed, the inefficient and disruptive notifications system has been a long-standing sore spot with many iOS users.

Apple Vice President Scott Forstall in front of an image of iOS 5's Notification system.Apple noted that iOS has sent out some 100 billion notifications. The catch is, whenever you see notifications on the lock screen, they disappear as soon as you unlock your phone. If you're already logged into your phone, the notification pops up on your screen, interrupting whatever you were doing at the time.

With the introduction of a Notifications Center, you get a single place to view all notifications. The approach to notifications has heavy echoes of the approaches in Android 2.x and WebOS: If you're using your device, notifications will appear as a pop-up at the top of the screen, then disappear; to view all notifications, swipe your finger down from the top of the screen and you can view a list of all notifications, sorted by app and category. Also up top are updates like weather and stocks (though really, those look much like what other mobile OSes call widgets).

If you tap on a notification, it takes you directly to that item within the app. However, the pop up notifications, at least as demoed today, look disturbingly like some of the ads I've seen on iOS apps.

More Notable Improvements: Mail and Safari
Mail will also see some major changes. You'll now be able to add rich formatting, like bold and italic text, to messages, along with being able to indent text. Mail will have a built-in dictionary and the ability to drag addresses between fields.

Oh, and you can now search through the entire text of a message, whether it is on the server or on the device. For enterprise users, Apple added S/MIME support: if you have the certificate of your message's recipient, you can send your message encrypted (indicated by a lock in the address field).

A nifty-looking addition: The keyboard can now be split in two horizontally, and moved higher or lower along the display. This works not just in Mail, but other applications as well and will make it easier to type with your thumbs, especially on an iPad.

Tabs on Safari
The mobile version of Safari will now support tabs.

The new version of mobile Safari will allow tabbed browsing, a feature already found in the native browser on Google's Android 3.x Honeycomb (and available in third-party browsers running earlier versions of Android). The on-stage demos didn't reveal many details, though, such as if there were any limits on the number of open tabs.

The Reading List in iOS 5 will sync articles you want to read later on all your iOS devices.Apple's will also introduce Safari Reader, which will allow you to tap a button and remove all of the ads and other Web layout distractions within a story so you can view the text as a single scrolling page. This feature appeared incredibly useful and convenient, especially if you're faced with multiple pages to scroll through.

Even niftier, though, is the ability to easily e-mail the text and link from a story in the Reader. From what we saw on-stage, Apple's implementation may be conducive for e-mailing oneself Web pages for offline viewing. The Reading List, meanwhile, bookmarks a story in a list that's synced with all iOS devices, making it easy to find for later consumption.

Game of Catch-Up
The addition of tabbed browsing and wireless syncing of contacts and calendar aren't the only features that Apple's playing catch-up on, as compared with its mobile competition.

Apple has, finally, introduced the ability to use the volume up button as a camera shutter button. Many Android and Windows Phone 7 phones have had physical shutter buttons for a while now. (Other additions to the camera: The inclusion of gridlines for framing images, built-in image enhancement software, and a shortcut to the camera app on the lock screen.)

GameCenter, launched nine months ago, has 50 million users now; Apple pointedly noted that Xbox Live has 30 million users, amassed over the past eight years. Without saying so directly, Apple squarely pitted its GameCenter platform for social gaming against Microsoft's Xbox Live and Windows 8 integration. In iOS 5, GameCenter adds such features as achievement points, the ability to see friends of friends, friend discovery, game discovery through recommendations, and turn-based gaming.

Meanwhile, with iMessage, iOS 5 takes on RIM's aging BlackBerry Messenger platform. The new iMessage platform works to send messages to any iOS device, regardless of whether it has SMS support. With the new platform, you'll be able to send messages to users of Wi-Fi only iPads or iPod Touches, which couldn't easily receive standard text messages. iMessage will tell you whether someone has received or read your message and give you an indication that someone is typing a note. It also provides encryption to protect your communications.

While iMessage puts the squeeze on instant messaging apps, third-party Twitter developers saw iOS encroach on their turf, too.

It'll be easier to tweet from within apps on iOS devices.In another sign that Twitter has become synonymous with daily mobile life, Apple has integrated Twitter directly into its operating system. With iOS 5, you won't need to re-log in every time you want to tweet, and sending tweets-including Web links, photos, YouTube videos, businesses and locations from Maps, and contacts--becomes as simple as a menu tap option, as seamlessly as if Twitter were a native app.

Less Noteworthy
A couple of the highlighted new features fell flat. One example: The addition of a new reminders app. While what Apple showed appeared slick enough, it was unclear to me what advantages its app will have over the scores of existing to-do list apps. One plus, though: Your reminders sync with Microsoft Outlook via Exchange, and with iCal.

Another blip on the radar was the news that Apple will introduce in the App Store a Newsstand to sell magazines and newspapers. I find it curious that Apple won't bundle the Newsstand into iBooks-itself a successful venture with more than 130 million ebooks sold. Competing booksellers like Amazon meld subscribing to Rolling Stone with buying books into one experience.

No matter the approach, Apple is behind in adding support for subscribing to periodicals and updating them in the background. Barnes & Noble and Amazon already offer this capability.

[lefty]

Never gives up :lol

[ElNono]

let's concede it was released 6 months ago.


:lol

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

[lefty]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/10/16/129002089566615137.jpghttp://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll106/Jordo141/selfpwnage2.jpg

[hater]

:lol Apple to release iKetchup
http://www.retrevo.com/content/blog/2011/06/apple-announces-new-version-iketchup-wwdc-2011

One of the big additions to the new iOS 5 which is due sometime this fall will be a new and improved notification system for everything from messages to events. The new notification will show up at the top of the screen which is very similar to the way Android has handled notifications from version 1.0. This version of iOS also adds better Twitter integration which is something that Android has offered through its “intents” to share feature and a single sign-on for quite some time. The list of catch-up features goes on including tabbed browsing in Safari and tether-free sync’ing which Android phones have offered for years. :rollin

[lefty]

:lol Apple to release iKetchup
http://www.retrevo.com/content/blog/2011/06/apple-announces-new-version-iketchup-wwdc-2011

One of the big additions to the new iOS 5 which is due sometime this fall will be a new and improved notification system for everything from messages to events. The new notification will show up at the top of the screen which is very similar to the way Android has handled notifications from version 1.0. This version of iOS also adds better Twitter integration which is something that Android has offered through its “intents” to share feature and a single sign-on for quite some time. The list of catch-up features goes on including tabbed browsing in Safari and tether-free sync’ing which Android phones have offered for years. :rollin

lol at the biased source

But that's funny, though

[hater]

keep responding to my every post

it shows how much you don't care :lmao

[lefty]

keep responding to my every post

it shows how much you don't care :lmao
keep responding to my every post

it shows how much you don't care:lmao

[hater]

cool let's both keep this thread alive :lol

[lefty]

cool let's both keep this thread alive :lol
:toast

[MannyIsGod]

Dude that snake picture...wtf.

[resistanze]

:lol Apple iShit

:lol Samsung copycats

:lol lefty don't let hater talk to you like that

:lol ElNono's mother has nothing to do with this hater


:corn:

[MannyIsGod]

I don't know. As big as an Apple fan boy EN is his mother is probably Steve Jobs.

:stirpot:

[ElNono]

I don't know. As big as an Apple fan boy EN is his mother is probably Steve Jobs.

:stirpot:

:lol

I wish :greedy

Would be counting the dough right now, instead of posting on hater's thread :lol

[Viva Las Espuelas]

All this because hater doesn't know the difference between 3 and 4. Not .3 or .4, mind you, but 3.0 and 4.0

I l:loll'dedided <-----just sound it out. It works. No long vowels. 4 syllables. And that's 4.0, hater. Ha. I just l:loll'dedided again. :kneeslap

[hater]

Viva with the bads.

A computer does not automatically push the update of windows 7 to your old pc running windows 98.



doesn't matter.

From Apple. Supported devices on iOS 4:
Iphone 3G
...

Microsoft does not say. Supported hardware on Win 7:
Pentium III



link for apple "not recommended on iphone 3G" ?



nope. From reading that thread it looks like OS4 takes up 98% of internal memory on IDLE mode. No wonder my thigh is always scorching hot from puttin this phone in my pocket :lol


:lol wow Apple fanboys have lost it

"A new update is available for your phone. Please click to update it"

this showing up everytime you connect your phone is not a reminder. It is basically pushing users to do it.

Again nobody is discussing the speed technology changes. We are discussing the fact that Apple fucked this up by pushing OS 4 to 3G iphones and dropped the ball even further by not fixing the issue and just advising customers to reset their phone twice. Apple has not even released an official statement. Click the link to the thread I posted.


how you can compare this to a user reinstalling Windows 7 on a Window 98 Pentium III computer is beyond me :downspin:

[ElNono]

Back in 2001...


I upgraded from Win 98 to XP and my Pentium 312Mhz now is slow as shit!!! @^@&^@*&#^@&*#! I'm never using Microshit stuff again.

:lol copying Apple
:lol once a follower always a follower
:lol MS fanbois



:rolleyes

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

I know that Post is fake because there was never a 312mhz pentium chip tbh.


DISHONEST.

[hater]

DISHONEST.

:lol

fanboy, dishonest

[ElNono]

:lmao

[ElNono]

tbh, talking about 312 Mhz, who remembers the Turbo button on PCs back then? :lol

damn I'm old

[ElNono]

I know that Post is fake because there was never a 312mhz pentium chip tbh.

let's concede it was a fake post

:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

The first machine I built was a Cyrix 233 mhz processor. God that thing was a POS.

[MannyIsGod]

let's concede it was a fake post

:lmao


You fucked up - it should have been lets concede it was a 1/2 fake post.

[ElNono]

You fucked up - it should have been lets concede it was a 1/2 fake post.

Oh noes! What I'm gonna do now? :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Oh noes! What I'm gonna do now? :lol

Write an app to do first class Spurstalk trolling, IMO.

[ElNono]

Write an app to do first class Spurstalk trolling, IMO.

IMO, trolling doesn't pay the bills. Ask hater over there. :lol

[hater]

IMO, trolling doesn't pay the bills. Ask hater over there. :lol

fanboy throwing insults again. It happens when they cannot dispute the facts. :rolleyes

I don't need insults, I stick to facts. Apple = sucks

:D

[ElNono]

fanboy throwing insults again. It happens when they cannot dispute the facts. :rolleyes

:dramaquee

FWIW, this is an Apple fanboy (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/29/physical-mockup-of-iphone-5-with-tapered-design/)

:lol

[hater]

Apple’s Safari: Lingers on as Second-Rate Browser
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/apples_safari_lingers_on_as_second_rate_browser/

“I can make more generals, but horses cost money.” — Abraham Lincoln

An essential part of our modern life is to browse the Internet, and the single most important tool for that is the Internet browser. However the Internet can be a dangerous place, and so we want the very best browser. Regrettably, the largest, most successful company in the world, Apple, has flubbed with Safari. What’s with that?

Apple has continuously improved Safari over the years. Its improvements to Webkit and Javascript execution have steadily improved. Version 5.1 added the much needed sandboxing for better security, but only for the OS X version. And yet, Safari has failed to gain customer traction while the glitzy Chrome from Google has continued its stellar ascendance. The numbers show it.

Is Apple going to settle for this?

Apple may have been able to rationalize that Safari, primarily focused on Apple customers, would never achieve a large market share because the Mac only has about 10 percent of it. But whoa. The reason Apple ported Safari to Windows was to show the PC world what a better life could be like using Apple products.

That hasn’t worked out. Instead, Google has stolen the hearts of PC and Mac users, even carving a chunk out of MS Internet Explorer and Firefox. Clearly Google is doing something right and Apple is, well, limping along with Safari.

Worse, Apple seems to have shot itself in the foot with Safari 5.1. It was an innocent enough upgrade, adding the Reading List, which got everyone wound up, some enhanced privacy settings, and the ability to drag items out of the downloads window. However, it also introduced some troublesome issues, notably a tendency to update the main window without a user request. I’ve seen an unusually large number of reader complaints, forum discussions, and even some of the TMO staff has been complaining. (I’ve personally switched to Firefox because I’ve come to the conclusion that an independent group like Mozilla, with no OS axe to grind, is in a better position to cater to customers.)

The chart below, derived from data collected by Stat Counter documents the customer reaction. Safari started a downward arc when version 5.1 was released. For Apple, growth and success is everything. Not here.

Looking at the small picture, many users are using Safari and are not having very many problems. PC Magazine liked it well enough back in July, but also noted that it isn’t a speed demon on Windows and concluded: “but our Editors’ Choice, Google Chrome, delivers a faster, cleaner browsing experience, has more HTML5 support, and offers sandboxed security on Windows.”

The Big Picture

Apple has let an enormous opportunity slip by. This tremendously successful company, worth more than any company on the planet, raking in US$100B a year, and famous for its ability to create user delight has been unable to conjure up the imagination, technical wizardry, design excellence and customer understanding necessary to climb the charts in the browser world. Mozilla’s Firefox has embarrassed Apple with better security focus, more rapid development, and keener customer focus. Google’s Chrome is faster, cleaner, more secure on Windows. While PC Magazine’s review, linked above, showed Safari to be pretty, uses Lion gestures, and utilizes “Cover flow and other beautiful interface elements,” it left readers flat, and they scored it only fair.

Oh, that Eternal Agenda

Part of the problem may be that Safari is loaded down with too much Apple agenda. It’s a showcase for all that’s Apple, and that means beauty, simplicity, OS integration and a happy-go-lucky web browsing experience — to make customers feel comfortable and happy with its products.

Some of that philosophy was revealed when Apple dumbed down the cookie display in version 5.1.

Modern users, especially all those switchers that Apple keeps talking about during the earnings calls, aren’t stupid. They know that the Internet is useful, but it’s also a dangerous place. They need to be able to do their banking and purchases with confidence and security. They want their browser to be the best on the planet, the fastest, most secure, most stable. They couldn’t care less less about Apple, say, forcing a Lion gesture down their throats.

The upshot is that Apple’s Safari is, today, a poor reflection on the traditional values of Apple. Here’s a company that lives and breathes excellence and customer satisfaction. And yet, one of the most important products they can deliver is, in my opinion, now second rate. Evidence for that surfaced recently when Glenn Fleishman documented how Safari 5.1 has an unfortunate glitch in certificate management.

How long will Apple suffer this indignity? How long will it take for Apple to decide that second best isn’t good enough? When will Apple get tired of Google kicking them around? The trends in the chart above tell the story. The customers have spoken. They want the best browser on the planet, and Apple isn’t delivering it.

John Martellaro is a senior scientist and author. A former U.S. Air Force officer, he has worked for NASA, White Sands Missile Range, Lockheed Martin Astronautics, the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and Apple Computer. During his five years at Apple, he worked as a Senior Marketing Manager for science and technology, Federal Account Executive, and High Performance Computing Manager. His interests include alpine skiing, SciFi, astronomy, and Perl. John lives in Denver, Colorado.

[lefty]

So what?

I have other browsers that work great on my iPhone

Try again :lol

[Tinystarz]

Ah well. Gotta look good somehow, Manny. I know I'd be a douche if I looked like I walked out of an evolution chart. I feel your pain.




Aren't humans on the evolution chart too? What do you look like?


Why you gonna talk shit over someone's looks if your not going to post a picture of yourself? Yes I know it's a given he's gonna find something to pick at if you ever did post a picture but you did it so why can't he?

:lol at ppl calling you handsome,cmon. Anyone can say that. Post a picture of yourself yes? I mean if your gonna go off subject and insult someone over how they look at least play fair and post a pic so he can do the same. Please :)



prediction?

:lol

[hater]

heres a pic of Viva:

http://cdn.ithinkdiff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/AppleFanboy.jpg

[hater]

bump

:lmao

[resistanze]

bump

:lmao

:lol

[hater]

:lmao

Apple Shares Slide Into Warm Bath of Sadness
http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2011/10/04/apple-shares-slide-into-warm-bath-of-sadness/?mod=yahoo_hs

Apple shares are down 1.7% at last check, below $370, as the company today introduced the iPhone 4S, the kissing-your-sister version of what many had hoped – nay, expected – would be the iPhone 5.

Gizmodo and others had warned an iPhone 5 probably wasn’t coming, but supposedly there was “tepid applause” from the spectators in the Apple prayer meeting iPhone event just now when the words “iPhone 4S” were spoken instead of “iPhone 5.”

[Viva Las Espuelas]

5.0 is not 3.0 either, hater. Just sayin'

[ElNono]

tbh, this 4S shit gotta be a Steve Jobs troll job on Tim Cook

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Who knows. He took his leave of absence a few months ago. I doubt a product was started at that point.

[Frenzy]

Why you gonna talk shit over someone's looks if your not going to post a picture of yourself? Yes I know it's a given he's gonna find something to pick at if you ever did post a picture but you did it so why can't he?

:lol at ppl calling you handsome,cmon. Anyone can say that. Post a picture of yourself yes? I mean if your gonna go off subject and insult someone over how they look at least play fair and post a pic so he can do the same. Please :)



prediction?

:lol

Tbf it's easier to criticise that way :lol

[hater]

http://www.misterbg.org/AppleProductCycle/

[DJ Mbenga]

tbh, this 4S shit gotta be a Steve Jobs troll job on Tim Cook

looks like steve jobs is also trolling dan hesse.

[hater]

:lmao Stevo rolling in his grave already

http://www.appolicious.com/tech/articles/9853-ios-5-rollout-marred-by-issues-for-users-all-over-the-world

iOS 5 rollout marred by issues for users all over the world

The big, feature-laden iOS 5 update finally hit the iTunes App Store yesterday, but it didn’t have an entirely smooth birth.

Lots of users complained of issues trying to upgrade to the new mobile operating system, which seems to have partially stemmed from the demand for iOS 5 taxing Apple’s servers as it attempts to distribute the new software. The most common error suffered by users was Error 3200, which Apple reps were telling users was a result of so many users all over the world pinging Apple for the update at the same time, according to Mashable.

But the problems didn’t just end with not being able to connect to Apple’s servers and download the new iOS software. Some users ran into more serious issues, such as the upgrade stalling and devices being wiped of their apps, music, photos and other data. From the outcry on Twitter, it seems like many users had their devices hit pretty hard by the update, and some were even seemingly unusable for a short time.

But all is not lost, it seems, even if you’ve had iOS 5 temporarily brick your device. Plugging your device back into iTunes, as PCWorld points out, should pretty much solve the issue when the device starts syncing. Apple’s software recognizes that your device is blank and starts filling things back in from your last backup. And because iTunes backs up your iPhone every time you plug it in, it shouldn’t be too hard to restore it to the condition it was in just a little while ago. If it doesn’t happen automatically, you can click “Restore from Backup” or just the “Sync” button to get the process going.

[hater]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/iphone-ios-5-upgrades-serious-headaches/2011/10/13/gIQAKPcNhL_story.html

iPhone iOS 5 upgrades: serious headaches

Apple customers are not happy after having problems upgrading to the new version of the iPhone’s mobile operating system, iOS 5, on Wednesday.

Taking to Twitter, Facebook and Apple’s support forums, users reported that their phones and tablets had been wiped — or worse, bricked. So many people were having problems with the update that the upgrading error message, “error 3200,” nabbed a spot as a worldwide trending topic on Twitter. :lmao

[lefty]

Hater, it's just a server problem :lol

Everybody rushed to download iOS 5, because it'S so popular, don't hate :lol

Of course, there are only 3 Android users worldwide, so servers outage has never been an issue :lol


The weird thing is that I DLed IOS 5 as soon as it was released, no problem, but those who choose to wait ran into the 3200 error; what a bunch of fags :D

[hater]

:lmao updating an iphone taking 4 hours.

my new android updated firmware and gingerbread in 15 minutes :lmao

[lefty]

:lmao updating an iphone taking 4 hours.

my new android updated firmware and gingerbread in 15 minutes :lmao
20 minutes for me

Try again :lol

[hater]

Lol

Took my laptop to the office today

By 2 pm ET I had IOS 5 running on my iPhone 4

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[lefty]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
And your conclusion is .... ?

[hater]

so it took 20 minutes to back up all your files, upgrade, restore? mmm ok. sure.

[lefty]

so it took 20 minutes to back up all your files, upgrade, restore? mmm ok. sure.
Yes

So?

[ElNono]

hater gonna hate, tbh

[lefty]

hater gonna hate, tbh
tbh

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Hater. Are you older than 20?

[hater]

sorry don't answer personal questions in the internet.

back on topic:

http://celljee.com/iphone-ios-5-sucks-and-we-have-valid-reasons/

iPhone iOS 5 Sucks And We Have Valid Reasons

iMessage – We already have such apps
iMessage feature won the battle for being “numero uno” feature is just a gimmick. Through the feature an iOS 5 user can send free messages to other users. The feature is already provided by many IM apps and just like Facetime you will find it sitting on your iPhone and eating a lot of memory. Luckily iOS 4.3 users are shielded from this poor feature.

Name is iCloud not James Bond
iCloud closely comes in after iMessage in being a useless feature of iOS 5. The feature aims at wirelessly synching up data and apps on all iOS held devices. There could be instances where you won’t want data to be viewed on all iOS devices held by a user but one. This could leak out sensitive user information if it is stored on iCloud. Currently, you can delete a private video from your iPhone but imagine with iCloud the MMS is saved in the cloud waiting to reveal your dark side.

Camera on Lock Screen – Confusion Oriented
Users are bound to get confused with this feature on iOS 5. You might end up placing taps on camera in pre-text of hitting the lock/unlock swipes.

No Flash Support
The web world has not become Apple friendly even after Apple realigned from Flash support in 2009-10. Their OS and products do not identify Flash at all.
If you think that the above mentioned reasons are not valid then you can give your own opinion, but we really don’t care.

[Drachen]

sorry don't answer personal questions in the internet.

back on topic:

http://celljee.com/iphone-ios-5-sucks-and-we-have-valid-reasons/

iPhone iOS 5 Sucks And We Have Valid Reasons

iMessage – We already have such apps
iMessage feature won the battle for being “numero uno” feature is just a gimmick. Through the feature an iOS 5 user can send free messages to other users. The feature is already provided by many IM apps and just like Facetime you will find it sitting on your iPhone and eating a lot of memory. Luckily iOS 4.3 users are shielded from this poor feature.

Name is iCloud not James Bond
iCloud closely comes in after iMessage in being a useless feature of iOS 5. The feature aims at wirelessly synching up data and apps on all iOS held devices. There could be instances where you won’t want data to be viewed on all iOS devices held by a user but one. This could leak out sensitive user information if it is stored on iCloud. Currently, you can delete a private video from your iPhone but imagine with iCloud the MMS is saved in the cloud waiting to reveal your dark side.

Camera on Lock Screen – Confusion Oriented
Users are bound to get confused with this feature on iOS 5. You might end up placing taps on camera in pre-text of hitting the lock/unlock swipes.

No Flash Support
The web world has not become Apple friendly even after Apple realigned from Flash support in 2009-10. Their OS and products do not identify Flash at all.
If you think that the above mentioned reasons are not valid then you can give your own opinion, but we really don’t care.


I am no apple lover but the criticism of icloud is just stupid. As far as the camera on lockscreen, I am confused by the criticism. Is it saying that you might take a picture when you are trying to unlock the screen? If so, that is another stupid criticism. I do agree with the first and last, however the former isn't really being touted by Apple that heavily, so I dont see this as their usual "look at this magical feature which we invented that all other phones have had for a year". The latter, is stupid, but not surprising.

edit:I am not saying that icloud is a magical experience or anything, just that this particular criticism is dumb.

[ElNono]

back on topic:

http://celljee.com/iphone-ios-5-sucks-and-we-have-valid-reasons/


I was checking out that site (thanks)... what happened here, hater?

http://celljee.com/iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s2-based-on-benchmark/

:lol

[PM5K]

You read the first article and figured that site was worth checking out?

[lefty]

sorry don't answer personal questions in the internet.

back on topic:

http://celljee.com/iphone-ios-5-sucks-and-we-have-valid-reasons/

iPhone iOS 5 Sucks And We Have Valid Reasons

iMessage – We already have such apps
iMessage feature won the battle for being “numero uno” feature is just a gimmick. Through the feature an iOS 5 user can send free messages to other users. The feature is already provided by many IM apps and just like Facetime you will find it sitting on your iPhone and eating a lot of memory. Luckily iOS 4.3 users are shielded from this poor feature.

Name is iCloud not James Bond
iCloud closely comes in after iMessage in being a useless feature of iOS 5. The feature aims at wirelessly synching up data and apps on all iOS held devices. There could be instances where you won’t want data to be viewed on all iOS devices held by a user but one. This could leak out sensitive user information if it is stored on iCloud. Currently, you can delete a private video from your iPhone but imagine with iCloud the MMS is saved in the cloud waiting to reveal your dark side.

Camera on Lock Screen – Confusion Oriented
Users are bound to get confused with this feature on iOS 5. You might end up placing taps on camera in pre-text of hitting the lock/unlock swipes.

No Flash Support
The web world has not become Apple friendly even after Apple realigned from Flash support in 2009-10. Their OS and products do not identify Flash at all.
If you think that the above mentioned reasons are not valid then you can give your own opinion, but we really don’t care.
Flash? WGAF, it's slowly dying :lol

Camera confusion: another shitty argument; unless the user is really retarded, I don't see how it can be confusing

iMessage is actually better than your regular messaging app; if you send a message to a contact who has iOS 5 it will treat it as an iMessage, and not an SMS
If the other person is already in your contact and has iOS 5, why bother to have that same person in - let's say - Whatsapp MEssenger?
It's much more simple that way




Hater fail fail fail :rollin:rollin:rollin