Media Matters vs Fox News

[George Gervin's Afro]

I find it ironic that Fox News is accusing another organization of being biased...

Why the war on Media Matters?

I beieve Fox News' argument is they (Media Matters) are promoting/aiding the democratic party therefeore they should lose their 501(c)3 status...

I don't see the correlation....

Why is Fox Acting so butthurt now?

[TDMVPDPOY]

fox news a fkn monopoly now around the world in the news and media....fck that shit...

[Winehole23]

I beieve Fox News' argument is they (Media Matters) are promoting/aiding the democratic party therefeore they should lose their 501(c)3 status...

I don't see the correlation....http://www.nonprofitlawcenter.com/resDetails.php?item_ref=226

via TaxProf Blog (http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2011/06/should-media-matters-.html).

[George Gervin's Afro]

http://www.nonprofitlawcenter.com/resDetails.php?item_ref=226

via TaxProf Blog (http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2011/06/should-media-matters-.html).

Serious question:

How does Media Matters aide the Democratic party?

Is pointing out their perceived bias of Fox News aide the democrats? If you buy that train of thought, what does that make Fox news? Anti- democratic party? or Pro-Republican?

In my humble (non legal) opinon the case you mentions differs from this specific issue...

[Winehole23]

How does Media Matters aide the Democratic party?I don't read Media Matters, so I wouldn't know. From boutons reposts here, they seem pretty one-sided.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Being biased isn't the issue here. It's the tax exempt status.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I don't read Media Matters, so I wouldn't know.

The prmiary mission of these dudes to harass Fox News. They typically will react to statements made by Fox News personal on the air and refute what what they had to say.... I used to read more of thier work but I found that I don't need anyone telling me that Fox News is biased...

[George Gervin's Afro]

Being biased isn't the issue here. It's the tax exempt status.

What is Fox's argument?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

The prmiary mission of these dudes to harass Fox News. They typically will react to statements made by Fox News personal on the air and refute what what they had to say.... I used to read more of thier work but I found that I don't need anyone telling me that Fox News is biased...

That statement within itself would lose your case, Mr Baez.

[Winehole23]

According to Paul Caron it's the being biased that threatens the tax exempt status:


MMA’s activities should disallow its tax-exempt status in two fundamental ways. First, IRS rulings make clear that attacks on individuals, statement of positions that are unsupported by facts and use of inflammatory language and other distortions will cost an organization its tax-free status. Second, in declaring “guerrilla warfare” on Fox as the “leader” and “mouthpiece” of the Republican Party and in developing a sophisticated Democratic-leaning media training boot camp, MMA has transformed itself into an aggressive advocate for Democratic and progressive causes and thus produced a second deviation from exempt educational activities.

[Winehole23]

Perhaps overt politicking isn't considered an exempt educational activity under 501(c)3.

http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96099,00.html

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Georgy needs a little help here.

And it's not like Foe news is trying to shut down Media"Matters" or silence them......................................which is pretty much what Media "Matters" mission is.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Plus, Georgy, I thought you're all for taxes

[Viva Las Espuelas]

What is Fox's argument?

You obviously didnt read what you quoted. You did quote it, right? Just want to make sure

[George Gervin's Afro]

That statement within itself would lose your case, Mr Baez.

Thanks Perry mason..:rolleyes

[Winehole23]

And it's not like Foe news is trying to shut down Media"Matters" or silence them......................................which is pretty much what Media "Matters" mission is.I was unaware Media Matters was able to shut down or silence anyone. Who have they shut down and silenced so far? How did they do it?

[Winehole23]

Or was that just your funny way of saying they speak out against others?

[George Gervin's Afro]

You obviously didnt read what you quoted. You did quote it, right? Just want to make sure

Their argument is that they shill for the democrats therefore they should lose thier tax exempt status.. weak argument and should be luaghed out of court.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Nice try, chump jr. Have fun with this. Mr Hole already linked everything you need to know to help you not lose sleep over this. Knock yourself out :toast
Please.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Plus, Georgy, I thought you're all for taxes

I thought the mindless one's were against raising anyone's taxes

[George Gervin's Afro]

Nice try, chump jr. Have fun with this. Mr Hole already linked everything you need to know to help you not lose sleep over this. Knock yourself out :toast
Please.

So you can't prove they shill for he democrats? That is the crux of Fox's argument... you do realize that,right?

[Winehole23]

Do Democrats come in for scrutinization of bias or misstatement on MM, or are the targets all pretty much Republicans?

[Winehole23]

http://mediamatters.org/

[George Gervin's Afro]

Do Democrats come in for scrutinization of bias or misstatement on MM, or are the targets all pretty much republicans?

it's about 10% MSM and 90% talk radio, fox news

[Winehole23]

Evasive.

[Winehole23]

Their argument is that they shill for the democrats therefore they should lose thier tax exempt status.. weak argument and should be luaghed out of court.Perhaps MM will refile as a 527. Then they wouldn't even have to disclose their donors.

[Winehole23]

My bad. Thx for the correction.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't read Media Matters, so I wouldn't know. From boutons reposts here, they seem pretty one-sided.
They are very one-sided.


Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.
By who's standards I would ask.

They point out they are partisan.

Link, Media Matters: About Us (http://mediamatters.org/p/about_us/)

[ElNono]

The stuff I've seen isn't much different from the one-sided garbage that Heritage or Cato puts out...

[Wild Cobra]

The stuff I've seen isn't much different from the one-sided garbage that Heritage or Cato puts out...
Yes, they are both biased. The question becomes who portrays the information accurately? Do either of them? Do both? Is one better than the other or not?

[ElNono]

Yes, they are both biased. The question becomes who portrays the information accurately? Do either of them? Do both? Is one better than the other or not?

It's all cherry picking and opinion. You can be accurate and biased at the same time.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Fox news is still fighting with MM as of this morning.... they are giving out the IRS phone number so the foxbots can call and complain..

[boutons_deux]

Is Fox News Scared? Desperate Attacks on Watchdog Group Media Matters Suggest Yes

The Fox News pack is on the warpath against the media watchdog group, Media Matters. In the past two weeks it has featured over 30 stories with the express purpose of challenging the group’s right to exist. Fox has assigned network stalwarts like Bill O’Reilly, Bret Baier, Charles Krauthammer, James Rosen, Dick Morris, and Bernie Goldberg to the mission. This is an unprecedented, broadly distributed attack by a major media enterprise against a non-profit group it regards as an adversary.

If this is war, Fox is the aggressor. Fox News initiated its attacks long ago with aggressive and false assertions that cast Media Matters as hacks, anti-American, violent, and communist. Fox alleged that George Soros was pulling their strings long before Soros ever made any contributions to the group. Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck engaged in rhetoric so hostile that it inspired actual physical attacks against Media Matters and its progressive allies. A video (posted at the end of this story and courtesy of Media Matters) was posted two years ago and illustrates the hostility harbored across the Fox platform long before Brock’s recent comments.

“…501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.”

On the basis of that criteria, Fox News argues that Media Matters is in violation and should have its tax-exempt status revoked.

However,

in order for that to be valid, Fox would have to admit that it is a political operation so that attacks on Fox News would qualify as opposition to political campaigns and/or candidates. Without that stipulation there is no violation on the part of Media Matters. So Fox is, in effect, conceding its role as a Republican mouthpiece.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/151558

[TDMVPDPOY]

since murdoch news media enterprises is gettin reviewed in britain, and maybe australia...will america do the same? lol

[boutons_deux]

You saw what it took in UK for the Murdoch-suckered/compromised establishment to come out against his shitty employees and newspaper.

For Years, the Tabloids’ Sting Kept British Politicians in Line

In 2004, Clare Short, a Labour member of Parliament, learned what could happen to British politicians who criticized the country’s unforgiving tabloids. At a lunch in Westminster, Ms. Short mentioned in passing that she did not care for the photographs of saucy, topless women that appear every day on Page 3 of the populist tabloid The Sun, owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation. “I’d like to take the pornography out of our press,” she said.

Big mistake.

“ ‘Fat, Jealous’ Clare Brands Page 3 Porn” was The Sun’s headline in response. Its editor, Rebekah Wade (now Rebekah Brooks and the chief executive of News International, Mr. Murdoch’s British subsidiary), sent a busload of semi-dressed models to jeer at Ms. Short at her house in Birmingham. The paper stuck a photograph of Ms. Short’s head over the body of a topless woman and found a number of people to declare that, in fact, they thoroughly enjoyed the sexy photos.

“Even Clare has boobs, but obviously she’s not proud of them like we are of ours,” it quoted a 22-year-old named Nicola McLean as saying.

It is the fear of incidents like this, along with political necessity, that has long underpinned the uneasy collusion between British politicians and even the lowest-end tabloids here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/world/europe/10britain.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

===============

James Murdoch could face criminal charges on both sides of the Atlantic

James Murdoch and News Corp could face corporate legal battles on both sides of the Atlantic that involve criminal charges, fines and forfeiture of assets as the escalating phone-hacking scandal risks damaging his chances of taking control of Rupert Murdoch's US-based media empire.

As deputy chief operating officer of News Corp – the US-listed company that is the ultimate owner of News International (NI), which in turn owns the News of the World, the Times, the Sunday Times and the Sun – the younger Murdoch has admitted he misled parliament over phone hacking, although he has stated he did not have the complete picture at the time. There have also been reports that employees routinely made payments to police officers, believed to total more than £100,000, in return for information.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/08/james-murdoch-criminal-charges-phone-hacking/print

==============

Murdoch and politicians: a special relationship that has only ever worked one way

British public life is now so corrupt that historians assessing this period will find cabinet papers infinitely less revealing than guest lists

Anyone in doubt as to exactly how dirty a little secret Murdoch has always been is reminded that despite Margaret Thatcher being so close that they repeatedly Christmassed together at Chequers, she does not once even mention him in her memoirs. Not once!

Like Voldemort, he must not be named. And such yuletide bunk-ups continued down the years, via the Blairs, all the way to the PM's festive supper with Rebekah Brooks barely six months ago.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/08/relationship-only-ever-worked-one-way/print

========

The American people remain silent sheeple getting shafted, but the Brits put 750K people into demonstrations against their banksters being bailed out while the Human-British get fucked.

The Repug party fears, takes its orders from Limbaugh and Roger Ailes. Ain't nobody gonna go after News Corp seriously in USA.

[fraga]

Pinko Commie Rag!!!

[boutons_deux]

News International phone hacking memos passed to police

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/10/1310304308829/Police-outside-News-Inter-007.jpg

Police have been handed internal News International memos from 2007 that appear to acknowledge that the practice of phone hacking was more widespread than previously thought and that police were paid for helping with stories.

The memos - which were written in the wake of the jailing of the News of the World's former royal editor Clive Goodman and the newspaper's £100,000-a-year private investigator Glenn Mulcaire - allegedly show that the pair were not the only News International employees implicated in phone hacking. The memos have now been passed to police investigating the matter.

The disclosure of the memos comes four years after the then executive chairman of News International, Les Hinton, told MPs that the organisation believed Goodman was the sole staff offender.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/10/news-international-phone-hacking-memos-police/print

=======

And Murdoch is famous for running a very tightly held, closed ship. He hired/promoted shitbags like Ailes and UK equivalents. Conclusion: Murdoch and his son are shitbags. Fox lovers will be lying that NOTW, even just a couple employees, were rotten apples in the Murdoch pile of shit empire.