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lefty
08-02-2011, 03:43 PM
FIFA.com rounds up the results from the Preliminary Draw which took place at the Marina da Gloria in Rio de Janeiro on Saturday 30 July.
Intercontinental play-offs
Asia – South America
North, Central America and the Caribbean - Oceania

African Zone Draw
Group A: South Africa, Botswana, Central African Republic, Somalia or Ethiopia
Group B: Tunisia, Cape Verde Islands, Sierra Leone, Equatorial Guinea or Madagascar
Group C: Côte d'Ivoire, Morocco, Gambia, Chad or Tanzania
Group D: Ghana, Zambia, Sudan, Lesotho or Burundi
Group E: Burkina Faso, Gabon, Niger, Sao Tome e Principe or Congo
Group F: Nigeria, Malawi, Seychelles or Kenya, Djibouti or Namibia
Group G: Egypt, Guinea, Zimbabwe, Comoros or Mozambique
Group H: Algeria, Mali, Benin, Eritrea or Rwanda
Group I: Cameroon, Libya, Guinea-Bissau or Togo, Swaziland or Congo DR
Group J: Senegal, Uganda, Angola, Mauritius or Liberia

Asian Zone Draw
Group A: China, Jordan, Iraq, Singapore
Group B: Korea Republic, Kuwait, UAE, Lebanon
Group C: Japan, Uzbekistan, Syria, Korea DPR
Group D: Australia, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Thailand
Group E: Iran, Qatar, Bahrain, Indonesia

North, Central America and the Caribbean Zone Draw (Round Two)
Group A: El Salvador, Surinam, Cayman Islands, Dominican Republic
Group B: Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Barbados, Bermuda
Group C: Panama, Dominica, Nicaragua, Bahamas
Group D: Canada, St. Kitts and Nevis, Puerto Rico, St Lucia
Group E: Grenada, Guatemala, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Belize
Group F: Haiti, Antigua and Barbuda, Curacao, US Virgin Islands

North, Central America and the Caribbean Zone Draw (Round Three)
Group A: USA, Jamaica, Winner of R2 Grp E, Winner of R2 Grp F
Group B: Mexico, Costa Rica, Winner of R2 Grp A, Winner of R2 Grp B
Group C: Honduras, Cuba, Winner of R2 Grp D, Winner of R2 Grp C

Oceanian Zone Draw
Group A: Vanuatu, New Caledonia, American Samoa/Cook Islands/Samoa or Tonga, Tahiti
Group B: Fiji, New Zealand, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea
European Zone Draw
Group A: Croatia, Serbia, Belgium, Scotland, Macedonia, Wales
Group B: Italy, Denmark, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Armenia, Malta.
Group C: Germany, Sweden, Republic of Ireland, Austria, Faroe Islands, Kazakhstan.
Group D: Netherlands, Turkey, Hungary, Romania, Estonia, Andorra.
Group E: Norway, Slovenia, Switzerland, Albania, Cyprus, Iceland.
Group F: Portugal, Russia, Israel, Northern Ireland, Azerbaijan, Luxembourg
Group G: Greece, Slovakia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Lithuania, Latvia, Lichtenstein
Group H: England, Montenegro, Ukraine, Poland, Moldova, San Marino
Group I: Spain, France, Belarus, Georgia, Finland

scott
08-02-2011, 03:58 PM
I'll be the too lazy to ask guy... how many spots does each Federation get, and what are the respective qualification tournaments in Africa, South America and Europe?

lefty
08-02-2011, 04:01 PM
I'll be the too lazy to ask guy... how many spots does each Federation get, and what are the respective qualification tournaments in Africa, South America and Europe?
Africa has 5 teams (which is why they have 2 rounds, since there are 10 initial groups)

lefty
08-02-2011, 04:02 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup_qualification#Qualification_spots_b y_continent

scott
08-02-2011, 04:53 PM
Alright here is my Pre-Qualification (I know it already started for some teams who will soon be eliminated) Prediction on the 32 (hard to predict the final 5 Euro teams bc of they way their qualification works, but I tried):

Africa (5)
Côte d'Ivoire
Nigeria
Ghana
Egypt
Burkina Faso


Asia (4.5)
Japan
Australia
South Korea
North Korea
(Iran loses to Peru in play-in)


Oceania (0.5)
None (NZ Loses to Costa Rica in play-in)

Europe (13)
Croatia
Italy
Germany
Netherlands
Slovenia
Portugal
Slovakia
England
Spain
France
Norway
Russia
Belgium


North/Cental America (3.5)
Mexico
United States
Honduras
Costa Rica (beats New Zealand in play-in)

South America (4.5+H)
Brazil
Argentina
Uraguay
Venezuela
Chile
Peru (beats Iran in play-in)

Edit: Had one too many Euro teams so I took out Greece.

sonic21
08-02-2011, 05:10 PM
for Europe, 13 spots for the WC. 1st of each group and there's elimination games for the 8 best 2nd).

France wasn't a top seed, so they ended up with spain.

ElNono
08-02-2011, 06:09 PM
Africa 5 and South America 4.5 is a travesty. I would argue that Central/North America having 3.5 is also a travesty. It needs to be Africa 4, Central/North America 4, South America 5.

rascal
08-02-2011, 06:21 PM
Ireland, Poland, Sweden, Paraquay and Columbia aren't any good?

scott
08-02-2011, 06:26 PM
Ireland, Poland, Sweden, Paraquay and Columbia aren't any good?

I was between Columbia and Peru. Paraguay's inability to mount an attack in the knockout stages of the Copa made me pick the others ahead of them.

Europe could have 20 slots and we could still find teams who are deserving.

And, of course, it's the summer of 2011. :)

scott
08-02-2011, 06:29 PM
Africa 5 and South America 4.5 is a travesty. I would argue that Central/North America having 3.5 is also a travesty. It needs to be Africa 4, Central/North America 4, South America 5.

Eh, I know CONCACAF really fought for the extra .5, but I think 3.5 is about right. I think New Zealand really kind of gets screwed and Oceania should just be with Asia.

rascal
08-02-2011, 06:30 PM
I was between Columbia and Peru. Paraguay's inability to mount an attack in the knockout stages of the Copa made me pick the others ahead of them.

Europe could have 20 slots and we could still find teams who are deserving.

And, of course, it's the summer of 2011. :)

Paraguay instead of Venezuela. Paraguay is usually in.

Sweden instead of Norway? Ireland instead of Belgium?

scott
08-02-2011, 06:31 PM
I really like Belgium. Young, up and coming team. I think they'll embarass the US next month.

Spurologist
08-02-2011, 07:42 PM
where's cameroon scott?

:nope

lefty
08-02-2011, 07:51 PM
where's cameroon scott?

:nope

it's not easy to predict who is coming out of the African zone

Only the 1st team of each group qualifies to the 2nd round
Then there is another draw that results in 5 groups
Then only the 1st team of each group goes to the WC

Plus, road games are really tough for the top african teams, even vs the supposedly bad teams; shitty conditions, shitty shitty officiating

Spurologist
08-02-2011, 08:02 PM
it's not easy to predict who is coming out of the African zone

Only the 1st team of each group qualifies to the 2nd round
Then there is another draw that results in 5 groups
Then only the 1st team of each group goes to the WC

Plus, road games are really tough for the top african teams, even vs the supposedly bad teams; shitty conditions, shitty shitty officiating

true....the only real guarantee is Cote D'Ivoire. Cameroon learned the hard way after not qualifying for the '06 world cup. I really don't see Cameroon out of the Brazil unless they play like they did in South Africa. :pctoss

ThePop
08-02-2011, 08:15 PM
how do the .5's work?

lefty
08-02-2011, 08:19 PM
how do the .5's work?

Half teams, like Canada, Malawi, Lichtenstein

ALVAREZ6
08-02-2011, 09:46 PM
South America should have 5 teams automatically in that's BS

Spurologist
08-02-2011, 09:46 PM
Asia for example will have 3 or a max of 4 teams will make it out of that region. Hence the 0.5 because of the uncertainty.


Half teams, like Canada, Malawi, Lichtenstein

:lol any team from Oceania pretty much

Sense
08-02-2011, 09:59 PM
how do the .5's work?

Apparently it's elimination games... .5 vs .5's...

is this correct?